Is Clickbank Worth it for Selling eBooks?

by PaulaC
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I am currently using e-junkie to sell an ebook and love it. It's easy to use, cheap and doesn't have many restrictions.

I am thinking of moving to Clickbank mainly to generate more affiliates.

Is this a good enough reason? With e-junkie we currently have close to 100 affiliates and that is just in over a period of about 3 weeks.

There are so many fees and so many restrictions with using Clickbank, so I wonder whether it's worth the effort.
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  • Profile picture of the author Orator
    There are advantages to using clickbank in terms of exposure, but it also increases your competition. Personally it seems like your doing good already with ejunkie, I'd recommend staying with them if you've managed to get a 100 affiliates in three weeks.
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  • Profile picture of the author vip-ip
    Hi Paula,

    I'm not sure what it is that you sell on e-junkie, but 100 affiliates in 3 weeks is very impressive.

    In my opinion, ClickBank's biggest setback for vendors is the customer-friendly refund policy. I'm not too familiar with what it's like to get a refund from e-junkie. With Clickbank, however, a client can ask for it, and get it automatically if you don't check your email once every 24 hours. That means you can go on vacation, and come back happy as hell to see 100 sales notifications, only to see 70 refund notifications to follow. It won't happen if you have a good product, but crap products are a no-no.

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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Morgan
    Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

    I am currently using e-junkie to sell an ebook and love it. It's easy to use, cheap and doesn't have many restrictions.

    I am thinking of moving to Clickbank mainly to generate more affiliates.

    Is this a good enough reason? With e-junkie we currently have close to 100 affiliates and that is just in over a period of about 3 weeks.

    There are so many fees and so many restrictions with using Clickbank, so I wonder whether it's worth the effort.
    100 affiliates in 3 weeks is awsome. Some people don't even get 100 in 5 years.

    100 is good, Awsome result, keep up the good work.

    There is No bad reason, if you want to get more affiliates then try clickbank.

    There are people who search clickbank who have never heard of e-junkie so you might be able to find some more lurking on clickbank.

    You won't know until you've tried.
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  • Profile picture of the author hometutor
    I'd only go to clickbank with a proven product. They have several self-serving policies leading to their million dollar days.

    Customer blinks wrong return policy
    Affiliates may purchase with their own links
    The program to handle vendor feedback on returns is a sham
    They're testing out a snail mail system with a full return policy WITHOUT verification the vendor received his/her product back first

    Due to these policies some cb members have gone to membership sites. Even then at times customers money is refunded post request time to back to 90 days as I understand

    This raises a big red flag to me if members are changing the way they conduct business due to a companies policy

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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    Even though you are on e-junkie, exactly how did you get 100 affiliates in 3 weeks? And are they active?

    Did you get all these affiliates just from listing on e-junkie and that's it? No active recruitment? If so, I'd say that's pretty darn fantastic.

    I don't have nearly that amount of affiliates and this I say from doing a lot of active recruitment.

    Enquiring minds want to know.
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    • Profile picture of the author PaulaC
      Originally Posted by redicelander View Post

      Even though you are on e-junkie, exactly how did you get 100 affiliates in 3 weeks? And are they active?

      Did you get all these affiliates just from listing on e-junkie and that's it? No active recruitment? If so, I'd say that's pretty darn fantastic.

      I don't have nearly that amount of affiliates and this I say from doing a lot of active recruitment.

      Enquiring minds want to know.
      We didn't do anything much. We mentioned it on our blog and that is all. They all just came from the ejunkie site. I would guess that a lot of those aren't actually promoting it.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Wright
    First off,

    Congrats on your 100 affiliates. That's remarkable via e-junkie. Perhaps I'll be taking another look at them. I did like the service.

    I hope you share your successes with the affiliate feature.

    ClickBank is the old tried and true "real" way to accomplish what you want. However it's does not give the instant cash gratification and one does get use to that with PayPal.

    I used CB a long time back and I have a $250 product limit, which was good back then, I don't know about now.

    Don't mean to ramble, but, I can't quit thinking about your 100 affiliates via e-junkie. WOW.

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    • Profile picture of the author PaulaC
      Originally Posted by George Wright View Post

      First off,

      Congrats on your 100 affiliates. That's remarkable via e-junkie. Perhaps I'll be taking another look at them. I did like the service.

      I hope you share your successes with the affiliate feature.

      ClickBank is the old tried and true "real" way to accomplish what you want. However it's does not give the instant cash gratification and one does get use to that with PayPal.

      I used CB a long time back and I have a $250 product limit, which was good back then, I don't know about now.

      Don't mean to ramble, but, I can't quit thinking about your 100 affiliates via e-junkie. WOW.

      George Wright
      LOL - well this is our first ebook (that wasn't free) so we didn't know what to expect. I didn't realize that it was that difficult to get affiliates.
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    I have a feeling your blog gets a lot of traffic. Like, a ton. I checked it out on couple sites like alexa, which I know are inexact but still give you an idea.

    So, I'm sure that definitely helped, some. Another thing to consider is that ejunkie truly gives you a good amount of affiliates if you register there. I know one person on this site was selling non-IM ebooks and then put one on ejunkie and got 5 affiliate sales in one day without doing a thing, just putting it on there. I think I shall consider ejunkie for my next affiliate product. I was going to do paydotcom, but I am leaning more and more to checking ejunkie out.

    Does ejunkie allow you to make affiliate tools?
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  • Profile picture of the author GoogleWarrior
    Who knows... regardless of what these people say... they dont know. The only way to figure out is to try using Clickbank; and then after your experiment you will know.
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  • Profile picture of the author SniperSoftware
    You can always do both. Just watch for hops vs whatever ejunkie uses for affiliate tracking and do the following:

    1. drop a cookie when the customer enters the site so you know what affiliate program they came from.

    2. load the appropriate purchase screen based on that cookie.

    3. If the person comes in through clickbank, exits, then comes back through ejunkie, just switch out your original cookie and show the other buynow link.

    That's it.
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    • Profile picture of the author PaulaC
      Originally Posted by SniperSoftware View Post

      You can always do both. Just watch for hops vs whatever ejunkie uses for affiliate tracking and do the following:

      1. drop a cookie when the customer enters the site so you know what affiliate program they came from.

      2. load the appropriate purchase screen based on that cookie.

      3. If the person comes in through clickbank, exits, then comes back through ejunkie, just switch out your original cookie and show the other buynow link.

      That's it.
      Sounds like a brilliant idea. Unfortunately I have no idea how to do it. It's obviously something technical and I'm not that technical.
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    ClickBank has been disappointing for me.

    I've got loads of affiliates, but it's my own article marketing that's doing all the selling!

    I've had 100's of hops from affiliates but no sales, I can only assume it's junk traffic (or my squeeze page needs work ).
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    • Profile picture of the author regska
      Continue using e-junkie, 100 affiliates in 3 weeks are a lot. I'd be happy already if I have 10 affiliates in 1 month. You can try selling your product at Clickbank while selling your product at e-junkie, you just need to buy a separate domain for it.

      Whatever strategy you used to gain 100 affiliates at e-junkie, try to apply the same tactic at Clickbank.
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      • Profile picture of the author RodriguezC
        Continue using e-junkie if you go to Clickbank you're going to find too much competition
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          • Profile picture of the author J Bold
            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            Why?

            Those people are competition in exactly the same way whether your order-page is an e-junkie one or a Clickbank one.

            You're not competing with them any less by being at e-junkie rather than at Clickbank.

            If you sell on e-junkie, using "yoursite.com" as your sales page, those competitiors on Clickbank are still selling their product on "theirsite.com".

            Moving your order-page from e-junkie to Clickbank doesn't make them any more, or less "competitive".

            I am pretty sure he meant competition for affiliates. There are many more products on Clickbank so affiliates have more to choose from. On ejunkie, probably many less products, so affiliates have less to choose from and thus will be more likely to choose your product.

            Pretty sure that's all he meant, don't overthink it. Whether you would agree or not is another issue, but I think your whole argument was right over his head.

            Also, as I previously noted, PaulaC gets a lot of traffic on her blog. I am wondering if she would have 100 affiliates on Clickbank no matter what, as perhaps most affiliates joined by seeing the announcement on her blog. Just a guess. This whole argument could be nil if that's true.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sanjay89
    I think you should stick to ejunkie I have personally used it and I find it very use to use and cheap also.
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    Paula,

    If you are making good money with e-junkie and your affiliates are making you a good amount of sales all the time then stay there.

    There is no guarantee that you will get more affiliates and make more money with clickbank.

    Tal
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    • Profile picture of the author brendan301
      i'm lookin at e-junkie's marketplace and their books are cheap. much cheaper than i was planning on selling mine for. i guess these vendors are making their money on volume.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
    As far as payment processing, Clickbank is one of the most expensive, once you take into account all the fees it adds up to around 9%, which I don't think is cool(don't know about you)

    Having said that, aside from some tracking issues and the fact you have to wait a couple of weeks before they pay you, at least you don't have to worry about your account getting frozen unexpectedly like you do with PayPal.

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  • Profile picture of the author Whiplash25
    E-Junkie is probably your best route...

    Got to say though, 100 affiliates is uber insane o.O
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    One thing that's important and hasn't been mentioned is... are those affiliates making sales?

    I'm someone who also uses E-junkie and Clickbank and I was able to get FAR MORE affiliates on CB. I only ever had a handful of affiliates on e-junkie and none of them made any sales.

    You are likely to get a lot more affiliates on CB, and thus likely more aff sales.
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    • Profile picture of the author PaulaC
      Originally Posted by Christophe Young View Post

      One thing that's important and hasn't been mentioned is... are those affiliates making sales?

      I'm someone who also uses E-junkie and Clickbank and I was able to get FAR MORE affiliates on CB. I only ever had a handful of affiliates on e-junkie and none of them made any sales.

      You are likely to get a lot more affiliates on CB, and thus likely more aff sales.
      Out of the last 50 sales 19 of those were affiliate sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sonomacats
    Hey Paula -

    I saw someone else's program on Clickbank, but if you looked at their information, they directed everyone to their program on e-junkie. It cost the one time setup, but left them free of the higher fees.

    If you do the same, you can keep it on e-junkie.

    Besides, if it's just to get more affiliates, you can mention it on the WF that you want more affiliates.

    I'm thinking, too, that you'll get a lot of affiliates from people who have purchased your eBook because they saw your postings here. Which is good, because then you're getting people who actually know what they're talking about when they give your book a review. Ken Evoy used to make being a purchaser a requirement for being an affiliate.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    Paula why not just create a second version and put that one on ClickBank without disrupting the one on eJunkie
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    • Profile picture of the author PaulaC
      Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

      Paula why not just create a second version and put that one on ClickBank without disrupting the one on eJunkie
      Yep, that might be a good idea Mike. We've still thinking about it but it would be good to compare the two and that's an easy way to do it.
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        Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

        Paula why not just create a second version and put that one on ClickBank without disrupting the one on eJunkie
        Was wondering that myself. I often set up versions of sales processes for
        Clickbank, RAP and directly via PayPal for a variety of reasons - mine, and
        affiliates'.

        Originally Posted by PaulaC View Post

        Yep, that might be a good idea Mike. We've still thinking about it but it would be good to compare the two and that's an easy way to do it.
        The comparison wouldn't be very accurate, as the audience/traffic/affiliates
        would all be different on each service. Though, you might get useful data
        regarding buyer satisfaction, refunds etc. - that may help you choose one
        over another, going forward.

        All success
        Dr.Mani

        P.S. - Good work on getting 100 affiliates in 3 weeks. The harder job is getting
        them excited about promoting (but I'm sure you'll do it!)
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  • Profile picture of the author WhamSoft
    Hi Paula,

    I had a similar dilemma after using paydotcom for a while to promote one of my products, I added the product to clickbank quite easily, I just setup a sub folder from the main domain /CB and edited the sales page a little to fit with the 60 day refund policy required by clickbank.

    I now get sales from both market places & twice the affiliates.
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    • Profile picture of the author SniperSoftware
      Originally Posted by WhamSoft View Post

      Hi Paula,

      I had a similar dilemma after using paydotcom for a while to promote one of my products, I added the product to clickbank quite easily, I just setup a sub folder from the main domain /CB and edited the sales page a little to fit with the 60 day refund policy required by clickbank.

      I now get sales from both market places & twice the affiliates.
      That's by far the easiest way to do it. Just curious about what happens if someone hops to the cb page, then later direct types into the main url of the site..?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Murphy
    Was just about to suggest creating another version and putting it up on Clickbank when I saw Mike Hill's post (what's up Mike Hill, where you been?)

    Will it ruffle your e-junkie affiliates feathers? It might, but it shouldn't. If you had 200 affiliates at E-junkie or 100 there and 100 at Clickbank, is there really any difference?

    It's worth a shot.
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  • Profile picture of the author robertphillips
    Both have there pluses and minuses. What I would do is take the same product and put a new name on it and then sell it on Clickbank. So keep what you have in place with e-junkie and then also sell it on Clickbank too. That would be a win win for you.

    I've never used e-junkie before but have used Clickbank alot. Its a great place to reach a big amount of affiliates.

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  • Profile picture of the author AHayes183
    Hi,

    The last few suggestions could work well and I think they have for many. My question is would it make more sense to use as many affiliate networks as possible?

    For example:

    .com - Ejunkie
    .net - Clickbank
    .org - Neverblue

    etc?

    Antony.
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      Originally Posted by AHayes183 View Post

      My question is would it make more sense to use as many affiliate networks as possible?
      Not if you want to attract serious, professional affiliates; no. It would be rather unrealistic to expect many affiliates to promote your product, if the customers they produce for you with their skills, time, energy and effort have a way of paying you for it that doesn't earn the affiliates any commissions, as explained in this thread and this thread.
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      • Profile picture of the author AHayes183
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Not if you want to attract serious, professional affiliates; no. It would be rather unrealistic to expect many affiliates to promote your product, if the customers they produce for you with their skills, time, energy and effort have a way of paying you for it that doesn't earn the affiliates any commissions, as explained in this thread and this thread.
        Fair point Alexa, thanks.
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      • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
        The issue with going through two affiliate engines is that you risk ticking off affiliates who are promoting on any one network. Say they send traffic to your site which sets a 'cookie' and then they arrive at your site from another referral a day later with the other affiliate program and buy...the CB referrer doesn't get credit for the sale.

        Part of your decision should revolve around your top affiliates - they may have strong opions for or against CB - I would contact my top 5-10 affiliates and ask them - do they have any issues if you move?

        If not - then go for it, if they do, hold off for now to see if they will continue to produce for you.

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