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I have my product, now for affiliates? Clickbank?

by amoneygame
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Ok, I have my product and I have started to promote it myself. But, there was something I didn't think about when it comes to affiliates promoting it, there are two different versions. I know with amember this works fine because they are just taken to the sales page and if they buy the lifetime license they are credited. If they buy the subscription the affiliate would be credited as well. Anyways, I was looking at clickbank and it looks like I would need two different products (also having to pay the activation fee twice :/ ) I could do that but then I would have to create two different landing pages and then the affiliate would have to decide which one they want to promote. I want something that works like amember so all they have to do is send users to my page and when they purchase either they are credited.

Any recommendations?
#affiliates #clickbank #product
  • Profile picture of the author Coby Wright
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    • Profile picture of the author amoneygame
      Originally Posted by Coby Wright View Post

      with clickbank you will need a sales page, thank you page, and download page and there is certain requirements for the things that must be on this pages. Also, clickbank will charge you a one time fee of $50. The one I use is part of my hosting package.
      Yeah I have all that stuff, but again it is the same product one is just a subscription we host and the other one we sell to them to install themselves.
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      • Profile picture of the author vip-ip
        Originally Posted by amoneygame View Post

        Yeah I have all that stuff, but again it is the same product one is just a subscription we host and the other one we sell to them to install themselves.
        If you can re-design your software in a way that you can provide them with the source code (maybe encoded), BUT they need one last file from you to run it on their server themselves, that could be a solution. That way you would only pay $50 activation fee once - for the "let us host it for you" version. Then, you would be able to entice your buyers to get your upsell (which would be the one file they're missing) for an additional payment, so they can move it to their own hosting if they want. Does that make sense?

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        • Profile picture of the author amoneygame
          Originally Posted by vip-ip View Post

          If you can re-design your software in a way that you can provide them with the source code (maybe encoded), BUT they need one last file from you to run it on their server themselves, that could be a solution. That way you would only pay $50 activation fee once - for the "let us host it for you" version. Then, you would be able to entice your buyers to get your upsell (which would be the one file they're missing) for an additional payment, so they can move it to their own hosting if they want. Does that make sense?

          Best Regards,
          vip-ip ...

          Yeah that could work. So then the affiliates only can promote the one we host though?

          Sorry, just a little confused as to how this would work, maybe I need to get in touch with clickbank.

          I could just stick with amember because they provide commission on any product you buy from the site which is nice, I wish ClickBank had something similar. I am not worried really about paying the product activation thing twice, I would just think that it would not entice people to promote it if they had to "choose" which one they want to promote. And what if they decide to get the different version?

          Maybe there is a solution out there I am just not seeing.
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  • Profile picture of the author amoneygame
    Anyone? Really don't know what to do :/

    ClickBank has been taking FOREVER to respond as well :/
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    • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
      You can setup multiple products under the same account in CB - think the limit is 50.

      Each has its own unique hop link, the only challenge is that you can only have one landing page for your affiliates per account which means that you would have to present a landing page for all affiliate traffic that had both options on that page - if that is acceptable, then you are golden.

      Otherwise, there is a method using ID's that is described in this thread - aMember, ClickBank, and multiple products - aMember Pro Forum

      And also, what you want to do can also be done with Easyclickmate - but at $67 unless you have more than 1 additional product, it would be less expensive to setup another CB account, but is a no brainer if you have more than 1 additional product and has other features that make managing affiliates more efficient and effective.

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      • Profile picture of the author amoneygame
        Originally Posted by jbsmith View Post

        You can setup multiple products under the same account in CB - think the limit is 50.

        Each has its own unique hop link, the only challenge is that you can only have one landing page for your affiliates per account which means that you would have to present a landing page for all affiliate traffic that had both options on that page - if that is acceptable, then you are golden.

        Otherwise, there is a method using ID's that is described in this thread - aMember, ClickBank, and multiple products - aMember Pro Forum

        And also, what you want to do can also be done with Easyclickmate - but at $67 unless you have more than 1 additional product, it would be less expensive to setup another CB account, but is a no brainer if you have more than 1 additional product and has other features that make managing affiliates more efficient and effective.

        Jeff

        Jeff thank you very much for the response. I *think* you have solved my problem. Sending users to a single landing page is o.k., it's actually perfect because that is exactly what I want to do. But the problem is won't they technically have to get the user to click on both affiliate links to be able to be credited for both products? Say they click on the subscription link but the user ends up purchasing the standalone, they wouldn't get credited for the lead/sale. Unless I am missing something. That just doesn't sound too attractive for affiliates to start promoting if they might be missing out on sales.

        Please advise, thanks!
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        • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
          Not quite sure what you mean. You need to setup a shopping-cart type order page with product 1 and product 2 - either one your customer orders will result in a commission for the affiliate. The limitation is not in allowing them to get commission on multiple of your products, the limitation is that you can only have one page where you redirect affiliates, meaning that all of your products must be listed for sale on that page.

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  • Profile picture of the author amoneygame
    Jeff:

    Ah perfect! You answered my question. I have a single landing page, mysite.com where I feature both of the products (standalone and the hosted version) so I just set up two different clickbank products that point to the same mysite.com where they can purchase either version, and the affiliate will be credited depending on which package was bought?

    Again, having one page is perfectly fine because I list all my products there, but how do I go about configuring that in Clickbank, is it just one product I need to configure? Or two products and just point them to the same landing page?

    Also, when the user gets their clickbank link, it will send it to my landing page and credit them for the sale on either product, right? Or am I missing something.
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    Can anyone comment on that?
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  • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
    ClickBank is a fantastic place to find affiliates. However, marketers like me will not touch ClickBank with a 10 foot poll.

    Here's a reason... there affiliate tracking has serious holes. Plus, they allow people to buy through their own affiliate links. So, as long as you are not in the make money niche or anything related to that niche you should be fine. However, if you promote anything in the make money niche are going to make at least, in my experiences, 50% or more less on the sales.

    People simply replaced your affiliate ID in with their own and buy it through their affiliate link. That way they get 50, 60 or 70% discount.

    This runs rampant in the make money niche. So, if you're going to promote anything in the make money niche that runs through ClickBank I would suggest going against that. The reason being is you're going to make a lot less money. You're going to promote for this person and the people buying are simply going to buy to their own affiliate links.

    Now, my experience has been different inside of different niches, but just the fact that they will not correct the flaw of buying through your own affiliate link turns me off to the point where I will not promote ClickBank products.

    It may affect my business but I don't care. I draw lines on certain things and that is one line I have drawn.

    Talk soon,

    Shannon Herod
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    • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
      Well, I guess I got off on a rant and did not actually answer the question...

      Yes, click bank is a fantastic place to find affiliates. But, if you enjoy screwing your affiliates over, if they're in the make money niche, then I would say go for it.

      If you do not like screwing your affiliates over find another place to go.

      talk soon,

      Shannon Herod
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      • Profile picture of the author amoneygame
        Originally Posted by Shannon Herod View Post

        ClickBank is a fantastic place to find affiliates. However, marketers like me will not touch ClickBank with a 10 foot poll.

        Here's a reason... there affiliate tracking has serious holes. Plus, they allow people to buy through their own affiliate links. So, as long as you are not in the make money niche or anything related to that niche you should be fine. However, if you promote anything in the make money niche are going to make at least, in my experiences, 50% or more less on the sales.

        People simply replaced your affiliate ID in with their own and buy it through their affiliate link. That way they get 50, 60 or 70% discount.

        This runs rampant in the make money niche. So, if you're going to promote anything in the make money niche that runs through ClickBank I would suggest going against that. The reason being is you're going to make a lot less money. You're going to promote for this person and the people buying are simply going to buy to their own affiliate links.

        Now, my experience has been different inside of different niches, but just the fact that they will not correct the flaw of buying through your own affiliate link turns me off to the point where I will not promote ClickBank products.

        It may affect my business but I don't care. I draw lines on certain things and that is one line I have drawn.

        Talk soon,

        Shannon Herod
        Originally Posted by Shannon Herod View Post

        Well, I guess I got off on a rant and did not actually answer the question...

        Yes, click bank is a fantastic place to find affiliates. But, if you enjoy screwing your affiliates over, if they're in the make money niche, then I would say go for it.

        If you do not like screwing your affiliates over find another place to go.

        talk soon,

        Shannon Herod
        Ok cool thank you for the post. Mine isn't a "make money" type product, although it is a tool for CPA marketers, would that classify as one of those "Make money autoblogging now" type offers?

        Please advise, thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author amoneygame
    But this is possible though, the ability to credit the affiliate for either sale when they use just a single hop-link? That is my biggest concern.
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  • Profile picture of the author ProEFI
    I agree with Jeff's comments... EasyClickMate is a great product and will help you overcome many of the obstacles that exist with Clickbank.

    In answer to your last post amoneygame, yes the affiliate will get credit for any sale on any product if you use EasyClickMate (it redirects to the correct sales page/thank you page by using the product id number - works like a charm).
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  • Profile picture of the author amoneygame
    Ah ok cool so I can still use ClickBank then right? That was my main concern because I know that is where most affiliates are so I want to be there as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
      there are a lot of respectable marketers that use click bank. Click bank is an amazing place to find affiliates and they will actually take care of everything for you.

      So, it is actually a pretty good choice.

      The problem, is I just don't like him. So whenever someone asks me my opinion I tell him that I don't like it and would advise against it.

      The reason being is I think they have a very shoddy affiliate tracking system with a poor attitude about affiliates buying through their own link. The only reason they do not care is because it still benefits them. They do not care about the affiliate in the transaction.

      As a publisher you're not going to have to worry about losing any money in this aspect. So, it may be beneficial for you. However, I always look out for my affiliates. I try to do the best thing for them and ultimately the best thing for the customer. And in my opinion, using click bank as my affiliate center is not the best thing for the affiliate. Especially if you're promoting any type of product in the make money type of niche.

      Talk soon,

      Shannon Herod
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    • Profile picture of the author ProEFI
      Originally Posted by amoneygame View Post

      Ah ok cool so I can still use ClickBank then right? That was my main concern because I know that is where most affiliates are so I want to be there as well.
      That's right. ECM is like a bolt-on to ClickBank. It redirects hoplinks so you can have multiple landing pages on different sites. Everything still operates on ClickBank.
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  • Profile picture of the author CianMcCarthy
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    Clickbank, but also run a WSO showing members how to make money with your product :-)
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