Question about PLR rights

by Dana_W 17 replies
I just saw an offer for a PLR package where somebody is selling 250 copies of it. BUT...they are allowing people to sell copies.

So why even bother limiting it to 250 copies, if each purchaser can re-sell the book?

And also, do youse guys (I lived in New York for a while) find a product less valuable if you can resell it, or more valuable? If you can resell it, you can make money off it - but plenty of other people have a copy so they can resell it too so it's not a unique product, and you might be less likely to put it on your blog or website.

If you CAN'T resell it and, it's only sold to, say, 50 or 100 other people, then it's a lot more unique and if you give it away for free to your customers as a bonus or incentive to sign up to a list, or put it on your website or blog as content...you can't make money selling it, but you do have less competition and duplicate content.


Here are the rights this offer came with:

[YES] Can be given away
[YES] Can be packaged with other products
[YES] Can be offered as a bonus
[YES] Can be edited completely and your name put on it
[YES] Can be used as web content
[YES] Can be broken down into smaller articles
[YES] Can be added to an e-course or autoresponder
[YES] Can be added to membership sites
[YES] Can sell Resale Rights
[YES] Can sell Master Resale Rights
[YES] Can be offered through auction sites
[NO] Can sell Private Label Rights
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  • Profile picture of the author pwebbiz
    Dana,

    For the most part that always irked me...

    Looking at the situation you proposed - it can be resold but PLR can not be passed. That being said let's call this product "Product A"

    If everyone is reselling / master reselling (Yikes!) the product as "Product A" you need to rename it to "Product B" get more attention to it.

    Now, an important facet is that you can't sell "Product B" as if is you think people are going to own the SAME thing under the title of "Product A" - that being said, it's a short term remedy - but won't sustain.

    To make it a sustainable solution make your product a unique variation of the PLR material so the generic "Product A" and your "Product B" are two totally different products.

    Hope this all makes some sort of sense

    Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author Simon_Sezs
    PLR rights have been nothing more than research vehicles for me regardless of whether it is for sale to 10 people or 100 people. Frankly, unless you are paying $10-20 per article, they are typically not worth even putting on a page (I do use them for my BH sites though...after a spin or two).
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    • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
      I'm SO glad to hear you say that, Simon! I wish everyone thought that. If you pay $3 an article, you are generally going to get what you pay for. What's a BH site?

      I'm still somewhat confused about the rights to the PLR package that I described - don't master resale rights mean that you can do whatever you want with it? And why couldn't you sell the product as private label rights?

      Of course it's all a moot point anyway to an extent, because there's so much ripping off /reselling of products any way.
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      • Profile picture of the author caleree
        Hi Dana,

        It is my understanding that "unrestricted private lable rights" is the license granted that allows you to do anything you want with the product(s). But even so, make sure you either read the license or email the seller before buying the product to make sure. Often times I have noticed that "unrestricted private label rights" comes with some exceptions so be careful.
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        • Master resell rights definitely do not allow you to do whatever you want with the product. MRR just allows you to sell resell rights. And never make assumptions. Many people think master resell rights automatically means you can SELL master resell rights. Not necessarily so.

          There are actually TWO kinds of master resell rights - transferable and non-transferable. With transferable MRR, you can sell master resell rights if you wish. With NON-transferable MRR, you can only sell the RESELL rights, not MASTER resell rights.

          Many people also assume that private label rights automatically gives you the right to sell resell rights or master resell rights to the product, or the reworked product you create. Again, not necessarily so. Sometimes a product creator will put terms on a PLR product that allows you to private label it, but only SELL it, and not sell any rights to resell the product.

          Christian is correct that unrestricted private label rights generally allows you to do whatever you wish with a product, and he also offers good advice to always check the license file of the product. Product creators have the right to set whatever terms they wish, and as ethical markters, we should be sure to take care to abide by them.

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          • Profile picture of the author Mary Gallivan
            Hi Dana

            With PLR books you normally get a folder with a PDF file, Word doc, salespage and graphics.

            You can edit the Word doc, put your own name as the author and insert your own links. Then you covert it to PDF and sell that but NOT the word doc.

            You can't claim copyright to the book unless you re-write about 70% of it and make it more or less your own work.

            With MRR you can sell the book according to what Barry has said. However what you are doing is selling a book which has somebody else's links etc in, so all you get out of it is the money from the sale of the book.

            PLR gives you much more freedom and much more potential.

            Hope that helps a bit.

            Mary
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            • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
              These are great answers. But wow, is there a lot of room for confusion there! I agree that it's very important for the person selling the product to spell out exactly what can be done with the product, because it seems as if everyone has a different idea of what resale rights, master resale rights, private label rights, etc., actually means.
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  • Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post

    I just saw an offer for a PLR package where somebody is selling 250 copies of it. BUT...they are allowing people to sell copies.

    So why even bother limiting it to 250 copies, if each purchaser can re-sell the book?

    And also, do youse guys (I lived in New York for a while) find a product less valuable if you can resell it, or more valuable? If you can resell it, you can make money off it - but plenty of other people have a copy so they can resell it too so it's not a unique product, and you might be less likely to put it on your blog or website.

    If you CAN'T resell it and, it's only sold to, say, 50 or 100 other people, then it's a lot more unique and if you give it away for free to your customers as a bonus or incentive to sign up to a list, or put it on your website or blog as content...you can't make money selling it, but you do have less competition and duplicate content.


    Here are the rights this offer came with:

    [YES] Can be given away
    [YES] Can be packaged with other products
    [YES] Can be offered as a bonus
    [YES] Can be edited completely and your name put on it
    [YES] Can be used as web content
    [YES] Can be broken down into smaller articles
    [YES] Can be added to an e-course or autoresponder
    [YES] Can be added to membership sites
    [YES] Can sell Resale Rights
    [YES] Can sell Master Resale Rights
    [YES] Can be offered through auction sites
    [NO] Can sell Private Label Rights
    Dana,

    I really don’t care about the limits. Whether it is sold to 20 or 200 doesn't matter to me because at the end of the day, I have to rewrite the plr content any way, before I can put it up on my site. So personally I don’t believe in those 'limits' and 'dup content issues'.

    Even if the plr provider offers resell rights to the plr content, there is no reason to worry as long as you rewrite the content completely and optimize it for YOUR keywords. No one would be able to tell whether it is an original article or a plr.

    As for your question:

    So why even bother limiting it to 250 copies, if each purchaser can re-sell the book?

    I guess it is just another way of trying to fool the customers.

    Arindam
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  • Profile picture of the author JaniG
    he good thing about PLR is that you can totally rebrand the PLR product and claim it as your own.

    PLR is one of the fastest methods of creating your own product.

    It IS valuable but you need to pick a PLR that is not already on the market or is not that known.

    You can literally make a small or even large fortune with PLR.

    Regards

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    • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
      Something else to consider here...

      Statistically speaking, somewhere between 95 and 99% of the people that purchase the rights do absolutely nothing with them.

      Of the ones that do anything, a fair amount (I don't have statistics...) will simply try to resell the PLR or package "as is".

      The rest - incidently, the ones who will make the most money with them - rework them and sell them as their own products.

      Takes a little longer and requires more effort, but in the long run, you will profit much more.

      At least, it works for me (and has for several years now).

      Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author caleree
      Anyone willing to offer their opinion on the best PLR site? I've been looking for a PLR membership site to join that offers cutting edge products with unrestricted private label rights for a few weeks now...any suggestions?
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      • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
        Originally Posted by caleree View Post

        Anyone willing to offer their opinion on the best PLR site? I've been looking for a PLR membership site to join that offers cutting edge products with unrestricted private label rights for a few weeks now...any suggestions?
        Make Money Online - PLRPro PLR Article Membership was recommended but I believe it's currently closed to new subscribers.
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      • Originally Posted by caleree View Post

        Anyone willing to offer their opinion on the best PLR site? I've been looking for a PLR membership site to join that offers cutting edge products with unrestricted private label rights for a few weeks now...any suggestions?
        I usually get what PLR I use from the WSO section of the forum. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a membership offering "cutting edge products with unrestricted private label rights".

        Here's the problem on that...

        If they let their members have unrestricted PLR, it would be the death of the membership, as members would be offering the products cheaper, and developing their own unrestricted PLR memberships with the same products.

        Barry
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      • Profile picture of the author hmng
        Originally Posted by caleree View Post

        Anyone willing to offer their opinion on the best PLR site? I've been looking for a PLR membership site to join that offers cutting edge products with unrestricted private label rights for a few weeks now...any suggestions?
        Check out Niche products for sale with private label and master resell rights. Not all the products there are unrestricted PLR, some are MRR but there are a lot to choose from for the price you pay.

        My favorite way of finding PLR memberships? Do a Google search or blogsearch to see what others are saying.

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        • Profile picture of the author caleree
          Thanks for the tips/advice. I'll check out the resources mentioned!
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      • Profile picture of the author Sheryl Polomka
        Originally Posted by caleree View Post

        Anyone willing to offer their opinion on the best PLR site? I've been looking for a PLR membership site to join that offers cutting edge products with unrestricted private label rights for a few weeks now...any suggestions?
        Join 1 Article A Day Today - by Warrior Ken Leatherman - good quality PLR but I'm not sure what the rights are - I wouldn't think they would be unrestricted.

        Dana - I agree with you completely, I think it's ridiculous to put a limit on how many you sell but let your customers resell them.

        Having said that, I can also understand where Peggy is coming from in that the customers can buy them and then put them onto their own site for sale. I believe Peggy has some PLR that she offers this way for other PLR owners to add to their site (correct me if I'm wrong Peggy).

        So I guess it depends what you're looking for and like others said PLR should be a starting point, you should rewrite it anyway.

        Personally, when I buy PLR it doesn't matter to me whether it's limited because I will rewrite it anyway, but I do tend to buy from sellers that I know have good quality.
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  • Profile picture of the author Peggy Baron
    Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post

    I just saw an offer for a PLR package where somebody is selling 250 copies of it. BUT...they are allowing people to sell copies.

    So why even bother limiting it to 250 copies, if each purchaser can re-sell the book?
    Here is my take on this question, using a smaller number. Let's say the PLR writer is offering a limited number (say 25) of sales, and they're also offering resale rights. The 25 people here are allowed to resell the PLR articles, but cannot pass on resale rights to their buyers.

    What this does is limit the number of people selling the packages to 25. That's attractive to people who want to buy the PLR from the writer and put the PLR in their own store as they won't have as much competition in selling it.

    Sheesh, I hope that made sense!

    Peggy
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