What Is The Easiest And Fastest Way To Make Money Online

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Hi All
I've been online now about 4-6yrs. Trying to crack the code. I bought alot of businesses at first EPI, Emerald Passport Incorporated , Roadmap To Riches, Abundant Living System, I can't even think of all the businesses I have bought at $1,000 to $1,200 a pop. Also a training course to build web sites, I signed a contract for that, which was a big mistake cost me $4,000. I quite that course I didn't like it, and still trying to pay that off. I guess right now I'am feeling a little down and out. I get alot of emails about differnt opportunitys, I guess I'am on everybodys list. I come here and do a search to see if anyone is making any money with these programs, not many are. I read all the stories and watch all the videos, and they all sound good, quick and easy until you buy them, or dig a little deeper then you find out it takes 6mos to a year and even longer to get these up and going, and a large investment of money too. Most people spend alot on advertising and don't even make there money back. Like I bought the course and bought the advertising, spent $200- $1,000, so I'am going to ask for a refund because it didn't work for me, now I got my $77 or $97 back. Who wins on that one.This is a very expensive hobbie. This idea of making money on the internet. Some times I wonder if it can really be done by the average person, or am I living in a dream world. Seems like I'am just going around in circles some times.
Now I'am trying affiliate marketing, and I don't know how long of a ride this is going to turn out to be. This might just keep going and going, I may never learn all of it. There is so many methods and techniques and aspects to learn to be a good internet marketer. There's article writing, press release writing, video marketing, email marketing and building a list, seo that covers alot, wordpress blogs, keyword research, and ranking in search engines, and many many more. You really have to learn alot of stuff to do internet marketing. I guess you have to love this stuff to keep going. Because this could take a lifetime, I guess you just keep trying different techniques and learning different techniques. and on up the ladder. Anyway does anyone have any encouragement.
Have I nailed it yet?

Thanks I'am feeling down.
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  • Profile picture of the author helicopterplt
    Originally Posted by herenow63 View Post

    Hi All
    I've been online now about 4-6yrs. Trying to crack the code. I bought alot of businesses at first EPI, Emerald Passport Incorporated , Roadmap To Riches, Abundant Living System, I can't even think of all the businesses I have bought at $1,000 to $1,200 a pop. Also a training course to build web sites, I signed a contract for that, which was a big mistake cost me $4,000. I quite that course I didn't like it, and still trying to pay that off. I guess right now I'am feeling a little down and out. I get alot of emails about differnt opportunitys, I guess I'am on everybodys list. I come here and do a search to see if anyone is making any money with these programs, not many are. I read all the stories and watch all the videos, and they all sound good, quick and easy until you buy them, or dig a little deeper then you find out it takes 6mos to a year and even longer to get these up and going, and a large investment of money too. Most people spend alot on advertising and don't even make there money back. Like I bought the course and bought the advertising, spent $200- $1,000, so I'am going to ask for a refund because it didn't work for me, now I got my $77 or $97 back. Who wins on that one.This is a very expensive hobbie. This idea of making money on the internet. Some times I wonder if it can really be done by the average person, or am I living in a dream world. Seems like I'am just going around in circles some times.
    Now I'am trying affiliate marketing, and I don't know how long of a ride this is going to turn out to be. This might just keep going and going, I may never learn all of it. There is so many methods and techniques and aspects to learn to be a good internet marketer. There's article writing, press release writing, video marketing, email marketing and building a list, seo that covers alot, wordpress blogs, keyword research, and ranking in search engines, and many many more. You really have to learn alot of stuff to do internet marketing. I guess you have to love this stuff to keep going. Because this could take a lifetime, I guess you just keep trying different techniques and learning different techniques. and on up the ladder. Anyway does anyone have any encouragement.
    Have I nailed it yet?

    Thanks I'am feeling down.
    I have to say I feel your pain ..so much information ..and even more scams and people offering things that dont produce ...

    I am new to internet marketing and I am not going to tell you that I can teach you to make money online..because i cant...

    What I will offer is some encouragement and some advice ...

    First the encouragement... i know the situation your in feels like its impossible ..how do you discern the right way from the wrong way?...how do you know which technique to try ?..and which to avoid? ...

    This is what I would call information overload...and we have ALL been there...we have all waded through the crap online ..and the scams ...and we have all felt that it was impossible ... but there is a light at the end of the tunnel ....and that light is consitent massive action...

    by the tone of your post and knowledge of all the techniques you talked about ..I assure you that you already know enough to get started makeing money online....but u need to take action every day ...

    We are often distracted by new and shiny approaches ...file them away for something to check out later ...for now pick one thing ..one technique and stick to ...take action everyday ...and if what you are doing isnt working ..tweak it until it does....

    Edison said he found over 1000 ways NOT to invent a light bulb before he found 1 way that worked ...learn from your mistakes ...and keep pressing on

    Chad

    PS ..JOIN THE WAR ROOM ...there is TONS of information there for FREE ...
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    • Profile picture of the author konradbraun
      Originally Posted by helicopterplt View Post

      I have to say I feel your pain ..so much information ..and even more scams and people offering things that dont produce ...

      I am new to internet marketing and I am not going to tell you that I can teach you to make money online..because i cant...

      What I will offer is some encouragement and some advice ...

      First the encouragement... i know the situation your in feels like its impossible ..how do you discern the right way from the wrong way?...how do you know which technique to try ?..and which to avoid? ...

      This is what I would call information overload...and we have ALL been there...we have all waded through the crap online ..and the scams ...and we have all felt that it was impossible ... but there is a light at the end of the tunnel ....and that light is consitent massive action...

      by the tone of your post and knowledge of all the techniques you talked about ..I assure you that you already know enough to get started makeing money online....but u need to take action every day ...

      We are often distracted by new and shiny approaches ...file them away for something to check out later ...for now pick one thing ..one technique and stick to ...take action everyday ...and if what you are doing isnt working ..tweak it until it does....

      Edison said he found over 1000 ways NOT to invent a light bulb before he found 1 way that worked ...learn from your mistakes ...and keep pressing on

      Chad

      PS ..JOIN THE WAR ROOM ...there is TONS of information there for FREE ...
      Chad, You said it best!

      Originally Posted by cashcow

      Looking for a "quick way to make a buck without any work" isn't the right kind of thinking if you want to make money online or build any type of business which it seems like you really want.
      Very well put Lee!

      I was in that cycle for years before one day I called it quits... I felt just like you mentioned: it just might not work for me!

      After a few weeks of trying to make the best of my offline job, I decided that this internet stuff had to work for me too... and I was at it again... this time with a little different mindset: I was going to take one idea and make it work!

      At that time I was involved with Success University and I remember a speech Matt Morris once gave about how one needs to become an expert in ones field... and I decided that I was going to dedicate the next year to learning SEO... I read a ton of ebooks, guides, etc, and listened to and watched everything I could get my hands on related to SEO - and the hard part: I made it a habbit to put the new information in action!

      I really can't make big claims aside from the fact that it is exactly one year ago that I quit my offline job. It wasn't always easy and yes, there were a lot of distractions (shiny things) on the way (there still are) but if there is one thing I have learned that is: it always pays off to be deadly focused and to follow through with massive action!

      herenow63, it might be a good idea to give it all a rest for a week or two (maybe even a few months) just to snap out of the "this looks easy - lets try it" mode. Come back in with a clear vision of where you want to be and stop at nothing to get there!

      H. L. Hunt says it best: Decide what it is you want, decide what you are willing to pay for it. Then set out and pay it!

      To your success,

      Konrad Braun
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  • Profile picture of the author TheMagicShow
    The easiest or fastest way to to, sign up for one of these lance sites and offer your services right there. Some offer article writing for a fee, they make decent money.

    Ebay is the only other place I can think of, where it is easy to make some money. Fiverr ? The place for people to share things they?re willing to do for $5 is also very popular these days, check that out, if you like.
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    If you like writing then try HubPages - it's one of the best places to start money making and I am now seriously impressed with August's earnings to date.
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  • Profile picture of the author revenue27
    Wow you read to many ebooks there, try to stop buying products , instead start doing some action, here is some action you can do.

    1. If you can write and like to write then create a bundle of PLR article pack on a popular niche then start selling it here as WSO. Sell it for low price first then increase it slowly don't forget to to limit your bundle .
    2. If you don't have any products to sell, you can buy PLR or MRR products, you can sell it as is or create new one from it.
    3. Buy hosting and build a blog , you can then monitize it once you have regular visitor.
    4. Register for autoresponder and build your list
    5. Submit Articles to EA directory promoting the hottest clickbank products
    6. Go to fivver and offer any service or skill you got for $5
    7. Relax and wait for the $$$ coming to your pocket, IM wealth doesn't come in one day.

    Hope that helps
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi herenow63,

      You need to reframe your approach to business - instead of thinking that you can buy into opportunity (which is causing you to walk right into the traps that are being laid especially for people like yourself) consider that all you need to learn and earn (IE get going) is a hosting account and a domain name.

      Then you install wordpress (free) or use a static html site builder (EG xsitepro (paid) or one of the free WYSIWYG editors) and start building pages.

      Alternatively, you can use one of the free blog providers like wordpress or blogger, but the former (your own domain) is a better way to go.

      Then use google.com, forums (like this one), backlinkwatch.com and domaintools.com and the myriad of other free tools out there to start compiling information and ideas by reverse engineering other peoples' success - IE - those who's websites are ranking well and appear to be earning money.

      'Borrow' some of their best ideas and experiment on your own sites. Check your stats and see what works. Learn and earn at the same time without spending money while also getting in the habit of taking independent action.

      THEN if you do decide to invest on sitebuilding/promotion tools, you will have a much better idea of what is a good buy and what is a rip-off.

      ...........

      Normally, I wouldn't have even given you this much advice, because based on your post and your sig file -

      Make 2-3k a week Go Here
      Make $1,980 a mo,without doing anything Go Here
      ...you're making yourself look like a bit of a hypocrite - you're complaining that you've made big expensive mistakes, you're asking for help, yet you're still willing to try and sucker other people into the same mess in order for you to claw back some of your losses via commissions - using the same BS that sucked you in - 'without doing anything'.

      Perhaps you might want to consider changing your sig file?

      Also, the first link doesn't load (times out) and the second one goes to an affiliate link which isn't allowed here (well it would do if you hadn't spelt the url incorrectly!)

      ...............

      I guess you have to love this stuff to keep going
      Not necessarily. But it might help to have a fierce determination to better yourself coupled with a desire to help others?

      I'm not sure how much I love this stuff, but I know that I hate being skint.
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      • Profile picture of the author Myles Sinclair
        Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

        Hi herenow63,


        ".......Normally, I wouldn't have even given you this much advice, because based on your post and your sig file -


        ...you're making yourself look like a bit of a hypocrite - you're complaining that you've made big expensive mistakes, you're asking for help, yet you're still willing to try and sucker other people into the same mess in order for you to claw back some of your losses via commissions - using the same BS that sucked you in - 'without doing anything'.

        Perhaps you might want to consider changing your sig file?..."
        I agree with Roger. Furthermore, it's always a good idea to test any links you format. Your first link goes to a parked page, and your second link to a page not found! You have to get the basics right when marketing your business.
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      • Profile picture of the author scrofford
        Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

        Hi herenow63,

        You need to reframe your approach to business - instead of thinking that you can buy into opportunity (which is causing you to walk right into the traps that are being laid especially for people like yourself) consider that all you need to learn and earn (IE get going) is a hosting account and a domain name.

        Then you install wordpress (free) or use a static html site builder (EG xsitepro (paid) or one of the free WYSIWYG editors) and start building pages.

        Alternatively, you can use one of the free blog providers like wordpress or blogger, but the former (your own domain) is a better way to go.

        Then use google.com, forums (like this one), backlinkwatch.com and domaintools.com and the myriad of other free tools out there to start compiling information and ideas by reverse engineering other peoples' success - IE - those who's websites are ranking well and appear to be earning money.

        'Borrow' some of their best ideas and experiment on your own sites. Check your stats and see what works. Learn and earn at the same time without spending money while also getting in the habit of taking independent action.

        THEN if you do decide to invest on sitebuilding/promotion tools, you will have a much better idea of what is a good buy and what is a rip-off.

        ...........

        Normally, I wouldn't have even given you this much advice, because based on your post and your sig file -

        ...you're making yourself look like a bit of a hypocrite - you're complaining that you've made big expensive mistakes, you're asking for help, yet you're still willing to try and sucker other people into the same mess in order for you to claw back some of your losses via commissions - using the same BS that sucked you in - 'without doing anything'.

        Perhaps you might want to consider changing your sig file?

        Also, the first link doesn't load (times out) and the second one goes to an affiliate link which isn't allowed here (well it would do if you hadn't spelt the url incorrectly!)

        ...............

        Not necessarily. But it might help to have a fierce determination to better yourself coupled with a desire to help others?

        I'm not sure how much I love this stuff, but I know that I hate being skint.
        I completely agree, but I am going to add to this post...QUIT BUYING INTO CRAP THAT WON'T PROFIT YOU! That being said, you need to start over. figure out your niche market. Do your research and make sure the market you want to attack makes money (some don't). From there, instead of being an affiliate (although affiliate marketing can be profitable), look into creating your own products. You can create ebooks, audios, videos, whatever...Learn how to do this.

        Learn about marketing your products with different techniques such as article marketing, PPC, Blog posting etc.

        Create or have a sales page created and put it up and market it. Use the above techniques you have learned to do this.

        Again, quit buying into these crap opportunities that aren't getting you anywhere but broke! I'm sure I could add more but this should get you started.
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    • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
      Originally Posted by revenue27 View Post


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      1. If you can write and like to write then create a bundle of PLR article pack on a popular niche then start selling it here as WSO. Sell it for low price first then increase it slowly don't forget to to limit your bundle .

      8<snipped
      Why is it that some people mention running a WSO to somebody in this forum
      who has only a few posts? At this time of writing, the OP had just two posts,
      even thought they've been here for about 18 months.

      Glenn
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      • Profile picture of the author Just a Minion
        The 3 "businesses" you say you have bought are not businesses at all. They are pyramid schemes.

        You bought a training course to build websites and quit.

        You bought an advertising course and quit on that.

        After spending tons of money on "easy and fast" scams, getting on every list, it's no wonder you're making this post.

        Just stop it.

        Stop what you have been doing and understand you have learned something: what not to do.

        If you want to make money try a new approach.

        Such as providing value for someone. Like any business. Once you learn to provide value, instead of looking for fast and easy ways to make money, you may very well find that making money is fast and easy.
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        • Profile picture of the author TammieJJ
          Affiliate marketing is excellent. Adsense can be an earner. There are dozens of ways to make money online, however, the ONLY way to get there is to take action.

          I am a periodic visitor to this forum, and I, too, have purchased a few things for my business, all through WF, and all totalled less than $125. More importantly, I read all four eBooks that I purchased cover to cover, figured out what parts of each fit into what I am doing with my business, then I put them aside, and put my personal plan into action. (I figured out my "personal plan" through trial and error - we all do!)

          You can get so bogged down in doing things the way this guru, or that eBook, or even this thread says to, that you never make the time to actually take the necessary steps to find out what works for you.

          Build your first, or your tenth, website. If it's not any good or doesn't get indexed, then reread that part of an ebook or online course, or come back here, or research a bit more, and then improve it. And then you improve it some more. The point is that you keep working at it and improving it.

          No specific type of website(s) or online earning method is perfect, and there is no one "easiest and fastest" way that you can learn that will make you money for years - the internet changes daily. And, believe me, you learn as you go.

          When I look at some of my earliest sites now, I can't believe the difference, and in six months, when I come back to my current sites to do a major update, I know that I won't be able to believe the difference then, either.

          You, too, will find this out. Yes, there are ways that are "easiest and fastest," and if you find that you excel at those ways, then that's what you should concentrate on. The main thing is to take action.

          Anyways, that's just my 2 cents worth!

          Good Luck.
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          • Profile picture of the author jenki1
            Hi,
            You need to get yourself a mentor.
            Take your time and have a look around for a good one.
            You need to be able to trust him/her and check out how long it
            take to get a reply to a question.

            I know it can take a week or so with some of them,this is not what you
            want. You want a reply within a couple of days or sooner.

            I am not going to mention any here as I don't wish to favour any one in
            particular.

            You need to step back and decide what it is you want to work on in the chosen field.
            Go into it slowly and carefuly.
            Do not just throw your money at it,this does not work as you have found out.

            Keep going, don't give up.

            All the best for the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author Easy Cash
    Hey Steel Man,

    Sounds like you have a good amount of experience you can work on.

    One thing though:

    Do You Have Your Own Product?

    You cannot make some serious money without having your own products.

    If you don't - Stop now and write an e-book about your experience. Then market it correctly and start selling it.
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    • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
      You cannot make some serious money without having your own products.
      Not sure what you mean by 'serious money.'

      But that's just not accurate at all. I know a lot of people who have and
      continue to make 6 figures/year with affiliate marketing only. I'm acquainted
      with someone who was making about half a mil per year with affiliate
      marketing. Then he started creating his own products.

      Ken
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        • Profile picture of the author RSK3000
          I also know how you feel. I've invested a lot $$$ in internet domain names. I probably wont make any money until I sell them but they don't generate the big bucks I hoped. So, like you, I now want to take all the skills I have learned on my journey and use them to make money.

          Time and time again I read that providing quality compelling content that solves peoples problems is the key to internet marketing success.

          For me the easiest way of making money will be to build an authority site using Wordpress.org and use the internet marketing techniques discussed in this site to promote it. I'm assessing the niches I know about and hope to launch soon. I'll be building a mailing list from the beginning and developing my own products in due course.

          This is not going to be easy and people will say I don't know what I'm talking about but developing a content rich site with information that solves peoples problems and building a community around it, gets results.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rukshan
    Read read warrior stuff and test it. There are many opportunities.
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      • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
        Am I the only one that has looked at the exit links in the OP's sig file?
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        If you were to watch my wife most evenings, you'd be convinced that the easiest and fastest way to make (some) money online is to enter online sweepstakes and contests. Over the last few years, she's won several thousand dollars' worth of prizes, gift cards, coupons for free stuff, etc. She keeps the stuff she wants and sells the rest for cash.

        It's about as easy as I can think of - she has a milk run of sites that she visits every night while she watches TV. Pull up the site, click the entry form, click the Roboform button, hit enter.

        A winning entry takes under a minute, and the instant win type prizes take seconds to collect.

        That's an enjoyable and fairly lucrative hobby for her.

        Now if you really want to have a profitable business, go up to Roger's post and read it again. And again. And again... until it sink in. It may not be as fast and easy as winning a DVD or blender online and selling it, but it's a lot more permanent.

        Oh, yeah, about the sig file...

        You're lucky. You caught people on a good day. Most of the time, when people ask how to make money with a story like yours, people would just refer you to the links in your sig...
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  • Profile picture of the author sloanjim
    I'd say a high % of "gurus" on the Net are making big money selling the "dream." You have to stop buying.

    Just test start small and when you start seeing results scale up. Be ready to move up.sideways,away, etc...

    2 HUGE advantages of IM bizz:

    1) You can JV with some amazing people. B careful and find people who you can trust. I am not talknig about "gurus" here.

    2) you can run it part time...keep it part tine with the power of outsourcing if you want. No need to quit your job to do this unless you are in a position to do so.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    Am I the only one that has looked at the exit links in the OP's sig file?
    Actually, I think the sig as well as the title of the post says a lot about the mindset of the OP which could really be part of his or her problem.

    Looking for a "quick way to make a buck without any work" isn't the right kind of thinking if you want to make money online or build any type of business which it seems like you really want.

    The thing is that if you read enough of the hype in many of the products sales letters, you can easily get into this mindset.

    I'm not knocking the OP, just saying it might be time to sit back and think about what you really want.

    Do you want to build a stable long term business that brings you more and more money over time?

    Or

    Do you simply just want to make a couple of quick bucks?

    The way you go about doing each of these would be quite different.

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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    The title of this thread says it all .... fast and easy. There is no fast and easy way to build a real business online or offline. It will take work and time so if you're looking for the fast, easy buck, you will end up buying a lot of junk ebooks, doing very little and making next to nothing.

    If you're serious about making money online, you need to decide first how you want to go about it. There are many ways, from PPC, creating your own products, affiliate marketing, selling a service/freelancing, Adwords, etc.

    Once you've decided, learn as much about it as possible and perfect it. Don't just give it a half-ass try, say it doesn't work and move on once again.

    It isn't fast and it isn't easy.
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  • Profile picture of the author imintern
    It will depend on how much money you actually want to make. It's not hard to make a dollar but when you are thinking of in terms of making a few hundreds a week or more it might not be that "easy and fast". And I guarantee you that all the good tips that the warriors have posted to reply your question will eventually require time and effort - probably a bit more than what you would think as "easiest and fastest".
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  • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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    Based on your enthusiasm for spending you do realize the answer is staring right in front of your face. Invest the money you are investing in programs and start a business where you can outsource the work. Find a low overhead business and get someone to do the work. I don't care if the business is lawn care, or, whatever. There are easy money ideas when you have money, which you seem to have to get up and running.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      After 4-6 years - you should have figured out there is no code. Only people who have developed a plan to work their own business and who have put in the work to follow that plan.

      You've been trying to buy a "job" that will pay you - and that's not marketing. You've become a buyer on everyone's list trying to find a quick and easy score.

      When you come to a top marketing forum where many people are working full time online successfully - complain about not making money - and then put "make money" links in your signature....it says a lot about your mindset.

      Follow Roger's advice. Stop looking for big money fast and focus on building with sites/blogs of your own instead of buying all the guru-crap and signing up for one program after another.

      Identify your own strengths - and go from there. Ignore any new ideas or tricks that don't fit the plan you have developed for YOUR business.

      If you stop dreaming and focus on developing from the ground up - you'll get farther in a year than you've gone in 4-6 years. If the mindset is "I'll try this and see if it works" - nothing will work.

      You need to choose ONE method of earning online, learn everything about that one method and then do the work every day. As for the signature, fake it till you make it doesn't work when you are working for yourself.

      kay
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      • Profile picture of the author herenow63
        Hay Thanks
        I've seen the error of my ways, I have a tendency to keep looking at all those shinny things, and not focusing on a main theme for marketing and sticking to it, and trying to learn some real skill sets that will be around for a long time to come. I had a friend say once that she wishes she learned IM in a couple of years like most people, but it took her 18yrs to learn it, but she is doing well now. It takes what it takes.
        It's good to know I have a place to come and complain sometimes, and still get alot of helpful tips from some good people, it gives that kick in the pants to get me back on track. I guess we all have our moments that we feel bummed.

        Thanks and Good Luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Aare
    this is my simple steps to earn my first $100 not more than 2 days.

    i browse some indonesian site, searching the niche about travel to bali, then i transtlate them to english version, and put it on AC. I got $5 - $15 per articles that i've translated and i just paid $5/article to some of my indonesian freelancer....
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  • Profile picture of the author Yichen
    I‘m sorry to hear that.I believe everything will be okay.
    Good Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Lilach
    Firstly well done for being honest. I really admire people who hold their hands up in this industry and say "help, how do I make money as I'm not!"

    Unfortunately making money online isn't as easy as everyone thinks it is and not only that, not many people are actually making a reasonable amount of money online. I'm talking about a good income where you don't have to supplement it with another job/parter's.

    If it was that easy, everyone would be doing it. It's not just as simple as writing a document and turning it into ebooks or even going onto Fivverr and offering your services. Let's face it, how much money could you really earn from that?

    If you really (and I mean really) want to make money online you need to treat it as a business. You need to have realistic expectations, a budget to start and keep you going and more importantly a business plan. You need to plan and strategise your marketing. How are you going to build a list? How many people do you need on a daily basis? What's your conversion rate?

    Stop wasting time buying more products. I wonder how much time you spent on each one before you moved onto the next one and thought that didn't work?

    You need to sit down and really work out if you want to continue with this industry. Most people don't make money out of it. Some people will make "pocket money" and supplement their income. Very few will make full time earnings and even fewer will be making big bucks.

    There is no fast way to make money online, however there is a fast way to loose money online which clearly you have done so far.

    I would work out how much money you have spent to date on your courses/products/advertising etc. it's important you keep track of everything.

    Wishing you the very best of luck.

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    • Profile picture of the author Sydp
      You want to get rich quick and easy? If there's on lesson I could teach you - not just about 'online' but about life, it's that nothing is free: it's either going to cost you money, sweat, time or integrity. By asking for 'fast and easy', you're asking to not have to put in sweat or time, so you could put in money or sacrifice your integrity and the answer would be yes. But you can't just dump money in - you'd have to have substantial money and invest - not just buy. Invest, like - buy something that costs less than it will eventually earn you.

      Anyway - I'm an average person. I make money online. In fact, the only money I make is online. A year from now, I'll be making around 8-10 times what I make today. Why a year from now? Because that's how long it will take to implement all the plans I have, and for those implementations to fruit. Just like planting a tree, you can't hope for fruit the next day. You have to put it in good ground, you have to water it - you have to hope the weather is right - and you have to have patience.

      You're asking for too much. Confront reality - it's not as pleasant as the dream of free, easy, fast money, but it is, after all, where we actually live.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMChris
    Hello Herenow63,

    first: Congratulations. You have made the best decision to join the warriorforums. I have also spent my cash on those gurus, but guess what. One recommended me this place and you definitely get the best information and help here for a lot less money.

    If you want to spent more money I´d say: join the warroom here for 37$. there is so much free information, even free videocourses on how to setup wordpress blogs which cost way more in the "outside" world.

    Create an Action Plan what to do. Like someone said before: pick one method and stick with it.

    I finally found my niche and a product to promote today. This is great break through for me! And now I can strip of all the other techniques and concentrate on it. This is so relieving for me. Because I can put like 15% of the techniques to use that I know and forget about the rest for now.


    I wish you good luck in your endeavors and let us know how you are doing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paleochora
    The OP puts me in mind of this great thread I was reading the other day, especially if you are heading int affiliate marketing.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussion-forum/245766-simple-plan-reach-100-day-30-days.html
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  • Profile picture of the author BonganiS
    Just continue working on your affiliate marketing business for now. Promote the affiliate products or services using cheaper methods like blogging, article marketing and include links which will point back to your products. It is best to use your own website or blog for marketing the products. You can use Clickbank for hot products and earn money or consider Ebay and other proven affiliate products. You should try and avoid working on many projects at the same time. Concentrate on a particular project, master it and see where it takes you. Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author Marian
      I doubt there are many easier methods than "just" blogging about something you love, or you can choose any topic, find some free PLR articles, edit and publish them. Add AdSense and/or affiliate links, do a little promotion and you're on a great start. It really works and the more quality content you publish the more money you'll earn. Start with one blog. Focus your marketing on just that one...try it and you'll see the results!

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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin_Hutto
    Hey Steel Man,

    Like many have said before... There's no magic bullet in this business. There is just an opportunity.

    You have to decide - do I want to be a "biz opp seeker" or a marketer? If you become a marketer, then you are making a decision to become a student in many ways... You will always be learning, observing and working. Being a marketer is powerful. Being a biz opp seeker is not - even if you can scam a few bucks out of people yourself.

    Right now, is the best time for you to get serious, learn this stuff and go for it... It will be harder five years from now... Trust me, it was easier five years ago. So, if you really want to be an Internet Marketer... Stop chasing fantasies and get ready for hard work.
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  • Profile picture of the author andybeveridge
    Right, first of all. Take a long hard look at what you have done so far. It didn't work did it? That is no bad thing. You now know not to follow that path anymore. Think of this as a new beggining.
    Its to difficult to just put a plan together for you because we all make money in different ways, and what suits one does not suit another.
    However I would take your experiences and use them to your advantage. You know what does not work and why. Others behind you do not. Why not write a report about your experiences and give it away to build a list.
    That is as good a starting place as any.
    Be honest and be yourself. Stop chasing the money, and concentrate on offering value to your growing list.

    Also remember your not alone in making mistakes, most of us have been there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
    Originally Posted by herenow63 View Post

    This idea of making money on the internet. Some times I wonder if it can really be done by the average person, or am I living in a dream world. Seems like I'am just going around in circles some times.
    Now I'am trying affiliate marketing, and I don't know how long of a ride this is going to turn out to be. This might just keep going and going, I may never learn all of it. There is so many methods and techniques and aspects to learn to be a good internet marketer. There's article writing, press release writing, video marketing, email marketing and building a list, seo that covers alot, wordpress blogs, keyword research, and ranking in search engines, and many many more. You really have to learn alot of stuff to do internet marketing. I guess you have to love this stuff to keep going. Because this could take a lifetime.
    #1 - No, Internet Marketing cannot be done by the average person, which is perfectly fine, because you are not average, you are unique, one of a kind. Quit trying to be everyone else.

    #2 - Please do live in a dream world. Dream big, set your goals large, keep them in front of you to motivate you.

    #3 -You are absolutely right, you will never learn all of it, nor do you need to. Choose one method and get started. Hit it hard on that one technique until you start making some money and then you can try another one. Master one thing, then add a new item.

    #4 - God, I hope it does take a lifetime, don't you? What you really want is a business which allows you freedom to live the life you want for the rest of your life. A business which allows you to play, learn, explore, have fun, meet people, and make money. Sounds like a fun lifetime to me.

    Now to be really critical for a moment. You need to work on your writing skills. Learn to use paragraphs or your blogs, articles, forum posts, and all other content will go unread.

    You need to find a way to lift your spirits. Try motivating movies, inspiring music, and reading success stories on the WF.

    Last criticism, quit spending money and focus on a technique like article marketing. Study the posts here on the forum when you get stuck or have questions. You are making things too difficult and over complicating your own life.

    Final word....GO GET 'EM..Your level of frustration may just be the final barrier you must overcome to hit success.
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    • Profile picture of the author ediddy02
      I think theyre is no hard and fast way,take some time off,possibly get an alternative source of income and then ask yourself which market or niche drives your passion in internet marketing,share ur ideas on this forum and take it from there,set up long term goals,the field is enormous.

      You could also build websites that can attract traffic set a target of probably 10,000 hits per month and sell it for a good fee on flippa.com
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  • Profile picture of the author mjfan
    Everybody find their interest in here.
    Just look for the thing that you can do all the time.. get into it.
    N you know what I have been through the same phase so its ok..
    Its easy to get over it..
    good to read all the posts here, I LOVE WF.
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  • Profile picture of the author LaLaLives
    Freelance writing, in my opinion, is the easiest way to make money online. However, you must possess skill, focus, intense research abilities and be serious about marketing your services. There are also several places online that will pay you to write articles or are willing to share residual profits with you.

    Originally Posted by herenow63 View Post

    Hi All
    I've been online now about 4-6yrs. Trying to crack the code. I bought alot of businesses at first EPI, Emerald Passport Incorporated , Roadmap To Riches, Abundant Living System, I can't even think of all the businesses I have bought at $1,000 to $1,200 a pop. Also a training course to build web sites, I signed a contract for that, which was a big mistake cost me $4,000. I quite that course I didn't like it, and still trying to pay that off. I guess right now I'am feeling a little down and out. I get alot of emails about differnt opportunitys, I guess I'am on everybodys list. I come here and do a search to see if anyone is making any money with these programs, not many are. I read all the stories and watch all the videos, and they all sound good, quick and easy until you buy them, or dig a little deeper then you find out it takes 6mos to a year and even longer to get these up and going, and a large investment of money too. Most people spend alot on advertising and don't even make there money back. Like I bought the course and bought the advertising, spent $200- $1,000, so I'am going to ask for a refund because it didn't work for me, now I got my $77 or $97 back. Who wins on that one.This is a very expensive hobbie. This idea of making money on the internet. Some times I wonder if it can really be done by the average person, or am I living in a dream world. Seems like I'am just going around in circles some times.
    Now I'am trying affiliate marketing, and I don't know how long of a ride this is going to turn out to be. This might just keep going and going, I may never learn all of it. There is so many methods and techniques and aspects to learn to be a good internet marketer. There's article writing, press release writing, video marketing, email marketing and building a list, seo that covers alot, wordpress blogs, keyword research, and ranking in search engines, and many many more. You really have to learn alot of stuff to do internet marketing. I guess you have to love this stuff to keep going. Because this could take a lifetime, I guess you just keep trying different techniques and learning different techniques. and on up the ladder. Anyway does anyone have any encouragement.
    Have I nailed it yet?

    Thanks I'am feeling down.
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  • Profile picture of the author Itshard
    All is not lost. It is good that you have decided to try affiliate marketing. I would like to give you some encouragement in this area.
    You are probably well aware of how lucrative affiliate marketing can be but what often happens is that both the newcomers and veterans of the internet marketing industry become completely bogged down and overwhelmed by the numerous affiliate marketing opportunities that are open to them.
    I have learned six ways to earn money as an affiliate marketer from myeasyonlinepay.com/six-ways-to-make-more-money-as-an-affiliate/. I hope you also learn before you get discouraged on this one also.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim_Carter
    Yes - the fastest way is to offer a service. This is a good way to get started.

    BTW - some paragraphs would make it easier to read your post.

    Originally Posted by herenow63 View Post

    Hi All
    I've been online now about 4-6yrs. Trying to crack the code. I bought alot of businesses at first EPI, Emerald Passport Incorporated , Roadmap To Riches, Abundant Living System, I can't even think of all the businesses I have bought at $1,000 to $1,200 a pop. Also a training course to build web sites, I signed a contract for that, which was a big mistake cost me $4,000. I quite that course I didn't like it, and still trying to pay that off. I guess right now I'am feeling a little down and out. I get alot of emails about differnt opportunitys, I guess I'am on everybodys list. I come here and do a search to see if anyone is making any money with these programs, not many are. I read all the stories and watch all the videos, and they all sound good, quick and easy until you buy them, or dig a little deeper then you find out it takes 6mos to a year and even longer to get these up and going, and a large investment of money too. Most people spend alot on advertising and don't even make there money back. Like I bought the course and bought the advertising, spent $200- $1,000, so I'am going to ask for a refund because it didn't work for me, now I got my $77 or $97 back. Who wins on that one.This is a very expensive hobbie. This idea of making money on the internet. Some times I wonder if it can really be done by the average person, or am I living in a dream world. Seems like I'am just going around in circles some times.
    Now I'am trying affiliate marketing, and I don't know how long of a ride this is going to turn out to be. This might just keep going and going, I may never learn all of it. There is so many methods and techniques and aspects to learn to be a good internet marketer. There's article writing, press release writing, video marketing, email marketing and building a list, seo that covers alot, wordpress blogs, keyword research, and ranking in search engines, and many many more. You really have to learn alot of stuff to do internet marketing. I guess you have to love this stuff to keep going. Because this could take a lifetime, I guess you just keep trying different techniques and learning different techniques. and on up the ladder. Anyway does anyone have any encouragement.
    Have I nailed it yet?

    Thanks I'am feeling down.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jamian
    I feel your pain! Thing is you need to stop underestimating yourself and overestimating others! Quit buying, instead stick with the one thing and keep grinding, of course it takes time build a real business. At the it's not about buying into business its all bout how much value you bringing it though. You not living in dream world it's real but you need to stick with one thing and become a master and move onto next thing. Wish You All the Best!
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    • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
      Before you even start you may be sunk if you're looking for the "easiest" AND "fastest" way to make money online.

      The reality is that it's not going to be easy and you're probably going to have to put in some serious hard work on quite a large learning curve before you make serious money.

      On the other hand if you forget about buying any more information or any more courses and just focus on taking action on the information you already have consistently for 3 months or longer then you should do alright.

      Just pick one strategy that you have some faith in and DO it.

      And keep doing it until you see some results...then do it some more.

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  • Profile picture of the author Seant7871
    I was in the same boat you are in and I too bought lots of products, but made very little online. Then I started reading stuff on this forumn everyday and it has helped me to gain a better understanding of marketing.

    I take lots of the ideas and suggestions from this forumn and use them in my business. Now I am making money, not a lot at the moment but some. The hardest part about all of this for me was being patient. It takes time to make money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Plank
    Fastest way: freelancing
    Easiest way: infoproducts once you've made money freelancing
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    You are above average... Most people will not plunk down $2000 for the next great business opportunity... But you do...

    People do buy into those opps, but those people are few and far between...

    I would recommend focusing on selling smaller dollar items that you can sell in quantity... Those are much easier to sell... Yes the commission is smaller, but you will get to cash in on more commissions....

    If not someone else's products, or your services at fiverr.com, I would recommend building your own products to sell...

    If this is a route you would like to explore, my friend Maddi has a product creation workshop running right now... You can learn more here: http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...of-inside.html
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  • Profile picture of the author ckatheman
    If your just looking to make a little cash, maybe a couple of grand annually with effort, you can take online surveys from reputable survey sites. Other than freelance writing, IMHO this is the easiest to make some extra money. I discovered these things when I wanted to buy something that fell out of our traditional income stream as an acceptable purchase (read: hobby)....

    You won't get rich doing it, but it does add up.

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  • Profile picture of the author DonTheAce
    Hi! The reason I've mainly worked High Ticket Programs over the years is because I need IMMEDIATE INCOME to support a growing family and prepare for my kids college education. I did very very well in Emerald Passport because I had passion for the product(Webucation on Real Estate Investing, Personal Development for Children etc). I became a Phase 3 Qualified Director. I sold many offshore conferences featuring Mark Victor Hansen as the main speaker pocketing $4500-$9000 per sale with the funds paid directly to me and the $ owed the company from my sale sent directly to them. I left this company and found Global Resorts Network which is a $3000 travel club membership sale with $1000 commission paid by the company to the salesman and $1000 residual paid to the salesman's enroller(passive residual income). This payplan is called perpetual leverage. Back in 2007 when I started with GRN the only marketing I ever needed to do was Google adwords. I recruited someone who became the top earner in the company making consistently 50-60 sales per month. Imagine my passive residual income per month. Hooray I was retired. Then, this person figured out how to manipulate the marketing plan and cut me out of my $1000 commissions by what is known in the industry as "STACKING". My business and confidence plunged overnight to almost nothing. I was freaked out and tried every money game I could find. Abundant living systems was one of them which is a gifting program. As an ex attorney and current starving real estate broker I just cannot wrap my passion around gifting. But, every company owner who knows my downline achievements in GRN has grandfathered me into every program that they start including Premier Wealth Systems using Rod Stinson's system. This program sells web scraping tools and voice broadcasting and email marketing to sell the PWS product which is Video internet training. I am looking for a partner who can market because to me Google adwords has dried up or so it seems. Anyone interested can email me at donisadreamer@yahoo.com.

    In Summary, there is nothing out there I have found that combines Immediate Income with leveraged residual income. MLM's look good on paper until something usually happens to the company etc. Creating my own program would be smart however I am the best recruiter and sales person you've ever met. People love me instantly and I love them too. I am looking for one final chance to create the million dollar future I once had with GRN which was so unethically taken away from me. Any IDEAS!! Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Gordelo
    i also have same case where I never earned an single panny
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  • Profile picture of the author David Louis Monk
    Herenow63 Everything you have bought to date you must regard as paying for your education. It will all be an investment if you stick at it and suceed.

    Whilst there is no subsitute for basic marketing skills that have stood the test of time, you have to keep abrast of the changing internet and find out what is working now and what products and services are hot. You can suceed in 100s of different niches once you decide which ones you are going to try.

    Some will say go with your passion, others will say go for what is working. Don't be afraid of competition unless it is competition so great it is not worth entering. Competition shows the market is there while choosing something on passion only might not bring the financial rewards you want first.

    Yo have bought a lot of products which have not worked at. I have done the same. What have you actually done which you can say "I have done this". Doing helps you learn faster and even if one thing fails have a plan to move on. This should not mean you change direction, but have a plan. To quote; "a fool with a plan wiill succed faster than a genious with out a plan".

    Be prepared to fail and move on and fail fast. If you are backing a loser then find a winner in the same arena. As others have said, focus in one area and make that a sucess before switching to a new area. Most areas will bring a reward if you stick at it and apply the sound marketing principles of giving value first. Give people what they want and build trust and get people to like you if you want to build a relationship type business.

    If you do not want to build a business built on relationships then consider earning off the internet through the likes of CPA advertising and getting on the new wave of mobile media. Advertising on mobile phones is the next big wave whether it be you r own product or someone else's.
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  • Profile picture of the author NewbiesDiary
    So you've spent 4-6 years online and you think 6 months is too long to work on a business model?

    Can you see something wrong with your thinking there?

    Don't worry - you're not alone!

    An incredibly large number of newcomers can tell the same story.

    But here's the secret to internet marketing...

    This is a business not a hobby.

    Any business requires, research, time, dedication, focus and yes, even some money.

    Once you get that straight IN YOUR HEAD you'll be well on your way.

    Until you get that straight IN YOUR HEAD - the rest is pointless.

    Sorry - but sometimes a harsh truth is required

    So... when you've got your mind set right - then pick one system, work it, stick to it, and don't buy any other systems.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnl123d
    trading forex and playing poker are the fastest ways of making money online.
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  • Profile picture of the author Richnana
    Internet marketers are in the marketing game. Notice that as soon as you buy the latest, greatest whatsit - they follow up with a newer greater better whozit. Be careful what you sign up for. Before you spend your hard earned cash, make sure that you KNOW how to market the product. It doesn't matter what program you join, if you can't get people to look and signup for your offer, you won't make money.

    Start marketing something that doesn't cost must. Offer something for FREE to see how many people respond to your marketing. I made the same choices that you have made... I signed up for a $2,000 travel program and ended up eating the costs because I was Not able to get anyone else (even family & friends) to see the benefit of my New Bestest Program in the World.

    Some of the other people in the program talked about making great money. That program did not work for me. The programs you listed have the same obstacle they might sound good to you but the people you show it to do not see the benefit.

    Regardless of what guru's say online Internet Marketing is No Joke. It is hard brain taxing work. It takes a lot of effort just to get through all the emails that these gurus send out relentlessly day in and day out.

    First thing to do is to un-subscribe to most of the lists. Concentrate on asking for help and guidance in this forum. You will succeed. Your dreams can be achieved. Just don't give up. Hang in there!
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  • Profile picture of the author megalinktraffic
    Dear Friend,
    The ultimate success formula to win is never ever quit,start to analyze and take the next alternate method which works and always get the idea about the program with other friends before you plunge.. Definitely the doors of success will open
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  • Profile picture of the author zinally
    I was spared to be overloaded with information because I join the internet forum and understand the process first before I started to identify what can I do to earn income in internet. That's why I learn blog monetizing and start teaching people first. After I save the money from the fees teaching blog I find a suitable mentor to explore more about the opportunities. My mentor now become my close friend and I start JV with him. So I believe you should start planning the best way to succeed base on simple step and gradually improve yourself. Good Luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Richnana
    Pouring money down the drain is NOT a business strategy. I stopped feeling sorry for my recklesss spending on Programs when I found that all you have to do is ASK somebody or do a real Google search so you can make a decision about the myriad of programs offered on the Internet.

    You are playing the victim here when in reality you may be the perpetrator of your own decisions. If you have spen that kind of money online surely, you had a plan on how to promote your business.

    I understand the need to get what you may consider a turnkey business, but once you start using the Internet, you know that you can find real mentors,real experts, real businesses that will bring you your desired results.

    We, in the Warrior forum should NOT scoff at people who want to get rich quick and easy because in many cases, that is the sermon that we preach on our websites and the offers that we make to the Internet community. The basic premise of the Internet is Instant Gratification, Instant Cash, Instant Quick & Easy. When we fail to deliver on the promises we make, we then have a problem.

    Take it slow and go through the posts on this forum, there are many great programs and experts all in this very space. Take heed of what they offer but even then run it through your own head and imagine you selling the product to one of your family members that you will be in contact with on a constant basis? Does it fly? Does it make sense? Is there a market for it? Would I want it for any other reason than to make money?
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  • Profile picture of the author SDenham
    Just my $.02- Internet Marketing, or Marketing of any type (Network Marketing and Internet Marketing specifically) is a VERY expensive hobby.

    As long as you treat it like a hobby, that's all it will be. Buy a boat. If you're determined, and you say you've been trying to crack the code for 4-6 years, I'd say you are, you have to find a way to bring it all together.

    Here is what worked for me. I took a break. I quit altogether and just stewed on everything I had learned after 6 years. Nothing had worked, but I had learned so much i knew there had to be something useful in all that information I had soaked up. I waited for my inner world to germinate this seed, and when I came back to it, after 3 months, (hopefully your germination period won't be this long) I'm finding that most of the things that I had spent all my time studying and researching were basic principles and the backbone of the industry. Now, I've had that cramming period, I can learn about more advanced principles, and putting what I learned into action was a breeze, because I got it, I finally got it.

    That's not to say that i've made millions, but I'm finally at a point where it isn't nearly as overwhelming as it used to be, back in the days when I was thinking the stuff you were posting.

    My advice, take a break and go surfing.
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