Resolved Thanks! - OK, I'm taking the HostGator plunge. Which Plan should I choose? HELP! ;)

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Hi Warriors,

I have 4 sites hosted at Thirdsphere hosting and they are discontinuing their
shared hosting plans so I need to move my sites before Sept 5, 2010.

I'm stuck between the Business Plan and the Reseller Plan.

The Business plan includes a Dedicated IP and SSL and the Reseller does not although the reseller plan includes personal name servers.

HELP...lol

What do you suggest that I do and why?

Thanks,
Have a Great Day!
Michael
#choose #hostgator #plan #plunge #taking
  • Profile picture of the author theemperor
    Definitely go for the Business plan...

    The reason is you get unlimited space and bandwidth.

    On the reseller account (why I have tried) bandwidth is always capped and you will probably experience a site going down if it gets popular.

    There is also more admin hassle on the reseller account.

    The only slight advantage of the reseller is you want to give someone a password to one of your sites but not the entire portfolio. But I just plan things so I never need to do that.

    Unless you intend to actually resell then don't use the reseller.
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    • Profile picture of the author Matthew Iannotti
      Originally Posted by theemperor View Post

      Definitely go for the Business plan...

      The reason is you get unlimited space and bandwidth.

      On the reseller account (why I have tried) bandwidth is always capped and you will probably experience a site going down if it gets popular.

      There is also more admin hassle on the reseller account.

      The only slight advantage of the reseller is you want to give someone a password to one of your sites but not the entire portfolio. But I just plan things so I never need to do that.

      Unless you intend to actually resell then don't use the reseller.
      No such thing as unlimited bandwidth.....Yes, they may say it, it's not really true dude. It's a good tactic though huh?

      Grab the reseller plan...
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      • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
        Originally Posted by EfitnessNYC View Post

        No such thing as unlimited bandwidth.....Yes, they may say it, it's not really true dude. It's a good tactic though huh?

        Grab the reseller plan...
        You've had an experience with it not being true?

        ...and...if so....they can't just make false claims and sell you on something that they really aren't able to deliver on....
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        • Profile picture of the author Matthew Iannotti
          Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

          You've had an experience with it not being true?

          ...and...if so....they can't just make false claims and sell you on something that they really aren't able to deliver on....

          Yes, I had one of my own sites in the past shut-down due to bandwidth usage, when it was "unlimited".

          There is something in the Host's ToS when they will not guarantee unlimited bandwidth.

          When you sign up for an account, you are on a server block along with other folks and their accounts. If someone on that block is using a high amount of bandwidth, it will cut in the amount left for you.

          You could get lucky and get on a server block where the bandwidth usage by other customers is minimal and that will leave you with ton's on bandwidth.

          The thing is, you just don't know what you are getting or who/what is on the same server block as you.

          You could get lucky...Or you could get cut-off..

          Point is, no such thing as unlimited...
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      • Profile picture of the author theemperor
        Originally Posted by EfitnessNYC View Post

        No such thing as unlimited bandwidth.....Yes, they may say it, it's not really true dude. It's a good tactic though huh?

        Grab the reseller plan...
        Yes I know that. Good point, but I think you missed my point. Probably my fault for not explaining it!

        The point is I have tried both, so I can make a valid comment on this question.

        With the so called 'unlimited' plan I have had no down time due to being above the monthly bandwidth.

        With the reseller my sites hit limits and were unavailable.

        So go with the Business or Baby plan is my general recommendation.

        (However judging by other posts: YMMV. If availablility and bandwidth are uber-important then splash out the cash on some serious hosting.)
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        • Profile picture of the author Matthew Iannotti
          Originally Posted by theemperor View Post

          Yes I know that. Good point, but I think you missed my point. Probably my fault for not explaining it!

          The point is I have tried both, so I can make a valid comment on this question.

          With the so called 'unlimited' plan I have had no down time due to being above the monthly bandwidth.

          With the reseller my sites hit limits and were unavailable.

          So go with the Business or Baby plan is my general recommendation.

          (However judging by other posts: YMMV. If availablility and bandwidth are uber-important then splash out the cash on some serious hosting.)
          In general, you are correct, most people will never need a ton of bandwidth. Most blogs/sites probably could get by with 10gigs per month...Depending on traffic and such..But the average site doesn't take a whole lot of bandwidth.

          In any case, Reseller is the way to go...

          Remember, you can also offer hosting services for others...
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
    LOL...

    Business plan = 1 vote
    Reseller plan = 1 vote

    If I get the reseller plan I could use it to sell domains and charge the buyer for hosting correct?

    Thanks,
    Have a Great Day!
    Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author brendan301
    i have the business plan and i love it. unlimited sites, with cpanel and their support is good.
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  • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
    Michael,

    Plan for the future re traffic/bandwidth. If you get appreciable traffic,
    are planning for more sites, and continue to promote then you'd be
    better off in the long-run with the business account.

    Ken
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Michael -

      I use reseller plans. First, nothing is "unlimited" and second, I don't particularly like using addon domains.

      Reseller allows a cpanel for each site and a WHM panel where you can manage and check stats quickly for all sites.

      You can host quite a few sites with the lowest reseller plan on HG - and it's easy to upgrade the plan or add a second one when and if you need it.

      kay

      Edit - just noticed your other question. Yes, you can resell but if you do YOU are the support for the hosting, not HG. I've used my reseller accounts to provide free hosting for a period of time for someone who bought a website, for example. That's useful if you need it.

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      • Profile picture of the author Pluton
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Michael -

        I use reseller plans. First, nothing is "unlimited" and second, I don't particularly like using addon domains.

        Reseller allows a cpanel for each site and a WHM panel where you can manage and check stats quickly for all sites.

        You can host quite a few sites with the lowest reseller plan on HG - and it's easy to upgrade the plan or add a second one when and if you need it.

        kay

        Edit - just noticed your other question. Yes, you can resell but if you do YOU are the support for the hosting, not HG. I've used my reseller accounts to provide free hosting for a period of time for someone who bought a website, for example. That's useful if you need it.

        kay
        I agree with Kay.
        I'm just in the process of changing my Business plan to Reseller.
        The current requirement of having "Add-on" domains is'nt really acceptable and has caused me problems in the past.

        The Reseller account fits in with my future plans and also as Kay says you can always upgrade later if necessary.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
    I just asked HostGator if their Business plan actually has unlimited bandwidth and this is the reply I received:
    The following plans we do not meter the bandwidth: Hatchling, Baby, and Business. However, on Reseller, VPS, and Dedicated we do.
    I also asked them this:
    So bandwidth wouldn't be a problem later for me using the business plan?
    and they replied this:
    Considering the bandwidth is unmetered. That is correct.
    Have a Great Day!
    Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    If your goal is just to develop sites on a massive scale and aren't particularly interested in selling hosting to anyone, then go with the Business plan. If you do decide to sell hosting later on down the road, you could always choose to pick up the Reseller plan then. All you'd really need is about 3-4 customers to cover your monthly cost for the Reseller plan.
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      Michael,

      I'm with Kay.

      I have a couple of reseller accounts with HG. What I like is the facility to switch resources between domains when one or more is getting near to capacity. That way, I can avoid any surprise interruptions.

      The business package, AFAIK, is a shared package and therefore cannot be unlimited in practice. Otherwise it would impact on all the other domains on that server.

      And the dedicated IP is for the whole account, not the individual domains (but I'm sure you knew that )


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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    I just wrote a fairly long blog post a yesterday about how to choose
    hosting. It all applies to Hostgator and similar C-panel hosts.

    Definitely try to get clear on how you intend to grow with your hosting.

    The Quick and Easy How To Get Your Website Online and Begin Making Money
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary McCaffrey
    I'm going to make another suggestion, the $7.95/mo Baby Plan. Do you really need a dedicated SSL and IP? Probably not, so why pay $60 per year for it?

    You'll not notice the difference between the baby and business plans.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
      Originally Posted by Gary McCaffrey View Post

      I'm going to make another suggestion, the $7.95/mo Baby Plan. Do you really need a dedicated SSL and IP? Probably not, so why pay $60 per year for it?

      You'll not notice the difference between the baby and business plans.
      Gary, Are you saying not to through the Baby out with the wash no matter
      which plan I choose...lol Sorry, couldn't help my self!

      Thanks everyone,
      Have a Great Day!
      Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnny Slater
    Although I am no fan of hostgator I will say go with the reseller plan. If you have to use them as a host you should have a cpanel for each site. Add on domains sound like a good idea, until you start dealing with installing scripts on a bunch of them.

    I have done installs on loads of hosting companies servers, using pretty much every type of hosting plan you can think of. Add on domains are always the biggest headache. Even something as simple as adding a blog on one site can be a major pain in the rear if you have 20 or so add on domains on one account.


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    If bandwidth is an issue for you then you might be better off going with a dedicated server instead of a normal hosting plan. It costs a little more but you can get higher bandwidth limits with dedicated hosting. No one offers true unlimited bandwidth, and no matter what host or plan you have if you get enough traffic you will eventually go over your limit. The advantage of the higher plans is that you can usually just contact the host and buy an extra block of bandwidth for the month to cover for a temp jump in traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gary McCaffrey
      Originally Posted by Johnny Slater View Post

      Although I am no fan of hostgator I will say go with the reseller plan. If you have to use them as a host you should have a cpanel for each site. Add on domains sound like a good idea, until you start dealing with installing scripts on a bunch of them.

      I have done installs on loads of hosting companies servers, using pretty much every type of hosting plan you can think of. Add on domains are always the biggest headache. Even something as simple as adding a blog on one site can be a major pain in the rear if you have 20 or so add on domains on one account.


      EDIT::::

      If bandwidth is an issue for you then you might be better off going with a dedicated server instead of a normal hosting plan. It costs a little more but you can get higher bandwidth limits with dedicated hosting. No one offers true unlimited bandwidth, and no matter what host or plan you have if you get enough traffic you will eventually go over your limit. The advantage of the higher plans is that you can usually just contact the host and buy an extra block of bandwidth for the month to cover for a temp jump in traffic.
      I've never had a single problem with addon domains. Have installed countless scripts multiple times across addon domains on a hostgator baby account. I'm talking several dozen domains, nearly all them with separate wordpress and multiple instances of many other scripts. No issues whatsoever.

      I did eventually outgrow the account but it wasn't because of bandwidth, it was due to needing more RAM.
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  • Profile picture of the author bobcath
    I agree with Kay too, reseller for me. I have the Platinum which allows a total for your sites of 500G per month. So you could assign e.g. 50 sites 10G each per month, you can also keep an eye on traffic for each and vary the amount each site has available.

    Bobby
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  • Profile picture of the author rondo
    Hosting problems are rarely about bandwidth. They are about cpu and Ram usage.
    If you're running many sites get a VPS.


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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Michael,

    The business plan includes a toll free number you can use for your business. If that's an attractive option for your business, I'd be heading in that direction.

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  • Profile picture of the author globalpro
    Michael,

    I have been with HG for a couple of years now and love the service. Support has been great, though you may have to plow past the front line to an admin, but you can do it for something serious.

    I have the baby plan and am using about 15 domains with out issue. Like Gary said above, setting up scripts, etc. with the add on domains is fairly simple.

    As far as the unlimited bandwidth, you have more of a problem with resource usage than bandwidth and even then HG is very accommodating to correct any problems. Worst that happens is they have you move up to the next level of hosting, but hopefully if you have to do that, it will be for the money you are raking in.

    Nice thing is you can always step up if needed. Just call them and say 'take care of it'.

    Hope that helps.

    Thanks,

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author anthon
    I have about 7 sites and i am with hostgator business plan.
    You told you have four sites. So don't pay more for reseller plan if you dont have a lot and lot of traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
      Originally Posted by anthon View Post

      I have about 7 sites and i am with hostgator business plan.
      You told you have four sites. So don't pay more for reseller plan if you dont have a lot and lot of traffic.
      Hi Anthon,
      I have 4 sites on that host although I also have many other sites scattered
      around the net. Two on dedicated servers and many on VPS hosting. The sites
      I'm talking about in this thread pay for them selfs although they are not my
      money makers. They are more so memories that keep me focused on the
      future.

      Thanks for the reply,
      Have a Great Day!
      Michael

      PS. I may develope them in the near future but it's not on my radar quite yet.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        With the reseller my sites hit limits and were unavailable.
        I can adjust the space/bandwidth of any of my sites in a few seconds on the WebHostManager panel if one nears the limit.

        "Unlimited bandwidth" is claimed by several hosting companies - but they will still shut your site down if it's hogging resources - bandwidth or not.

        My problem with addon domains was some time ago when I tried them and found a couple scripts that wouldn't run on them. I think that is rare now but reseller accounts have me spoiled so worth the money to me.

        Let us know what you choose and how you like it.

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  • Profile picture of the author N4PGW
    Originally Posted by Michael Mayo View Post

    Hi Warriors,

    I have 4 sites hosted at Thirdsphere hosting and they are discontinuing their
    shared hosting plans so I need to move my sites before Sept 5, 2010.

    I'm stuck between the Business Plan and the Reseller Plan.

    The Business plan includes a Dedicated IP and SSL and the Reseller does not although the reseller plan includes personal name servers.

    HELP...lol

    What do you suggest that I do and why?

    Thanks,
    Have a Great Day!
    Michael
    I don't host with hostgator. If someone complains of spam, I hear others complain that they shoot first and ask questions later.

    I have had reseller hosting for many years now, without actually reselling except to a few friends. I find an advantage to having separate accounts and being able to move them easily. (I'll tell you how to work it if you ask.)
    I am gearing up to become a small reseller, finally, but I learned a lot oloing the way as I worked with the reseller account.
    My accounts are identical to HostGator. I started with HostGator and moved on. They were just too slow to upgrade the resources vs cost. I see they finally made the adjustments. One thing I can say about Hostgator is they were always on the ball and very friendly when there was anything I needed to address with them. They did things they didn't need to do to help out.
    There are some programs and scripts that will not run under Godaddy. If you read their TOS, you will see that if they shut you down for spamming, etc (at their exclusive decision), you wave your right to recover anything you may have otherwise owned while with them, including the right to any of your domain names or material stored on their servers. They recently revised them so they clarify that they don't own intellectual rights to your writing, etc. But they won't let you download anything including your documents, web design, etc. When it comes to your defense, you have the burden of proof that you didn't commit the offense and they are judge, jury and executioner.

    After having had problems with a different service, I long ago decided to separate my domain names from my web hosting services.

    It is obviously up to you to decide what to do, but I hope this gives you information to make an informed decision.

    Good luck
    Buck

    PS, I don't know how it is I read the title wrong.... You are going with HostGator. Great company and their domain service is through eNom so you are very well off with them. I don't know how I got GD in all this.

    Sorry.
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  • Profile picture of the author rts2271
    If your not going to go with me then at least get a VPS
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Iannotti
    Also, with the reseller, good flexibility if you ever want to sell that domain (own cpanel). As an add-on, pain in the arse!
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
    Thanks everyone for your inputs.

    I've chosen the baby hosting plan + an IP address for these sites.
    Total cost for the first month: $1.67 Damn I feel dirty...lol

    I didn't need a Toll-Free number or an SSL for these sites right now.
    Total monthly cost will be $9.95. I was payng 24.95 to host the sites before so...

    I used a coupon code that gave me the first month for $.01 and I'm really
    not sure why the additional IP address was only $1.66??? Should have
    been $2 a month extra from what I read on the site???

    Here is the coupon code if you need it: hgc25

    My reasoning was the fact that I don't do much with them at this time anyway and
    figured that the hosting costs will be at less than half of what I've been
    paying the past few years. Plus I can always upgrade if I need to.

    Today I asked HostGator to move my cpanel from thridsphere to it's new home.
    All I can say is that if this is the way they do business then I made a good choice.

    I like the fact that I asked for them to transfer my sites and they did it flawlessly with
    in 5 hours of my request. I have checked most of the sites and their functions including
    databases and other scripts all seem to be working well.

    Someone in this thread asked me to report back with what I choose so that
    is what I am now doing.

    Hopefully HG will be as good of a host as TPH to me for many years to come.
    Only Time will tell.

    Have a Great Day!
    Michael
    PS. Thanks again for your inputs!
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