Need Help from UK Warriors re: business starting

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Hello Fellow warriors

I ll appreciate your help and recommendation of an cheap and reliable accountant if possible.

I am in a full time job and was learning Internet Marketing in my spare time, but Now I want to take it more seriously and want a legal framework to do it as business. I need help from experienced UK Warriors who have formed their LLC and are doing business.

I am thinking of setting up a Limited Liability Company but I have no past experience of setting up a business and I am not sure about the cost involved in formation and running of the company. can somebody highlight their experience and recommend any good accountant( if possible, in Leeds, WY). I would require help with following things

formation of company
submission of legal papers to company house
annual returns submission
? any other things that a company is legally required to do.
Accountant address as company address
Help to open a bank account for company

My only worry is that I am not sure if I ll make much money in the venture and I don't want to end up spending more money in these things than I ll actually make even after working.

Please help me finding the right way of doing business in UK

Thanks

Deepak
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Fletcher
    Some good starting information to read -

    Set Up a Limited Company - Business Guide

    A company that specialises in setting this stuff up for people -

    UK Limited Company Formations...ONLY £23.99, Offshore Companies, Company Formation, Accountancy

    No aff links just stuff I found recently while researching this myself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Fletcher
    Some good starting information to read -

    Set Up a Limited Company - Business Guide

    A company that specialises in setting this stuff up for people -

    UK Limited Company Formations...ONLY £23.99, Offshore Companies, Company Formation, Accountancy

    No aff links just stuff I found recently while researching this myself.
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  • Profile picture of the author 1medic
    Hi Deepak

    Registering the company cost me abut £35. I registered it via one of the links on google.co.uk for "company registration".

    The accountant I got did all the related stuff to do with submitting to companies house etc.

    The accountant was pretty willing for me to use his address as the company address. At the time I had 2 companies and I used my address for one and his address for another.

    He seemed to actually prefer me to use his address as then he'd promptly receive all the things sent from the Inland Revenue.

    I was surprised how at how many things he took off my hands. So basically from my point of view it amounts to:

    Register the company
    Find a good accountant. Some accountants also have a private company registration service, but those internet companies are cheaper.

    For finding an accountant I used the same one as a builder acquaintance I had at the time.

    I've been trading for over 3 years with the same setup. No problems. Except his fees. LOL. Yeah, and limited companies have more paper work in the UK. Not the sort of stuff you could do on your own so you need an accountant.

    Final thing: I was making a decent amount of money 3 - 4 months before I opened formally for business. I put about one month of those expenses and income onto my first years accounts. The rest (income, but no expenses) went into my personal income and taxes for that year.

    Good luck. PM if you need more in case I don't see this thread again.

    Luke
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
    Originally Posted by doc_web View Post

    Hello Fellow warriors

    My only worry is that I am not sure if I ll make much money in the venture and I don't want to end up spending more money in these things than I ll actually make even after working.
    Deepak

    I'm not sure why you feel the need to set up a limited company before you even start earning. My advice would be to begin as a sole trader.

    You should be able to open a standard business account with your current bank (or any other main bank) to keep your business separate.

    In my experience, a limited company might only be worth considering when (or if) the time comes to invest in premises, staff etc. or if you were planning to take out a large loan to finance your business.

    Otherwise, keep it simple.

    Best of luck.


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  • Profile picture of the author DavidO
    You are lucky to be based in the U.K. I've done business in both the U.K. and the U.S. as well as on the continent and setting up a company in the U.K. is the easiest of all. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise... they're talking b.s.

    You can buy a U.K. limited company (equivalent to a U.S. LLC) online in a matter of a few minutes for less than 50 pounds. Others have already provided links. It's up and running the same day.

    Do this part yourself because it's so simple. If you get a chartered accountant do do it for you they'll charge several hundred pounds for the privilege!

    In fact, I would advise you to forget about an accountant at this point because that's the one thing that's the most expensive. The online service that sells you a company will register it and instruct you in what to do. Your own address can serve as the registered address.

    You can also open your own company bank account (something that will cost a lot to have handled by a third party). All you need are your company registration docs (that you'll get in the mail) and your usual personal documentation. U.K. banks tend to be real snooty about new company accounts (even before the current crisis) so you'll do best to go to where you bank personally and talk to the manager there.

    Don't waste money on an accountant until you've got the company set up and running.

    You probably realize that you don't have to have a limited company to do business, but there are advantages if you plan to make serious money. One last thing you might want to consider if your plans are ambitious: a Cypress company or similar base. This is not ofshore and it's totally legal. Cypress is an EU country but has only 8% corporate tax and many other business advantages. You can get a company there with bank account for somewhere between 1500 and 2000 pounds. It could pay for itself in one year of tax savings!

    I'm looking at this option myself. You need professional financial advice before you take this route.
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    • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
      Why do you need to set up a company? I've been self-employed for 15 years.

      If you set up a ltd company then you are legally required to send annual returns to Companies House.

      Best place for business start-up advise is Business Link. Contact your local branch and their business advisors will tell you everything you need to know. It's a free service.
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  • Profile picture of the author richpeck
    Don't worry about it - just go to a LOCAL accountant (not a corporat one that costs £10,000 for a tax return) and get advice from them.

    Seriously - I went to all sorts of people but it was a good friend of mine who said to just go to an accountant. I did and was signed up as self employed the next day. My initial tax return was submitted a week later. Cost: £200.

    LTD companies are a lot more complicated but unless you're doing over £40k PROFIT (I.E above 'expenses' such as a new computer, office, work space, materials, car, business trips, etc, etc) and don't like paying 40% to the govt, do u have to worry about anything.

    Most accountants do initital consultations free, too. Just get yo ass down there and talk it out!
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    • Profile picture of the author doc_web
      Thankyou All

      Andy Thanks for the links, they are very informative. I had researched internet before I wanted some first hand experience of People.

      1Medic, Thanks, is it possible for you to recommend me your accountant. Just out of curiosity have you got a Medical Background?

      Frank, I wanted limit my liabilties in case anything goes wrong, so thought of a LLC

      David, Rosetrees Thanks for sharing your valuable experience.

      Richpeck, I have a day job as well and I ll be in 40% bracket if make anymore money in my spare time. so my earnings will basically half for the extra work I ll be doing.

      Thanks again Guys

      Deepak
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      • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
        Originally Posted by doc_web View Post

        I wanted limit my liabilties in case anything goes wrong, so thought of a LLC
        Sorry, it doesn't work like that. As a Director of a limited company you can be held personally liable for debts.

        You definitely need to go to Business Link. Their service is free and they also run free business start up courses which tell you everything you need to know.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Raybould
    Deepak,

    Definitely don't jump in with an LC until you absolutely need to, which from the sounds of things isn't quite yet.

    Grab your yellow pages and find a few local accountants and give them a ring. Some will give you some helpful advice over the phone, and most of them will offer you a free consultation period to see if you're a good fit for each other.

    Doing it that way and getting concrete advice from a pro is going to be a lot better for you when it comes to planning the next steps for your business.

    Hope that's useful.

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  • Profile picture of the author doc_web
    I ll contact Business link and speak to a local Accountant for more advice tomorrow.

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
    Deepak,
    My advice is to call around a few local firms. Most will give you a free consultation. Find one you like and go with their advice on whether you need a company. As your business grows then you can always change both what you trade under (sole trader, llc or ltd) and bigger accountants that may be more suitable to larger trading entities in the UK.

    Rich
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  • Profile picture of the author Janet Sawyer
    Here's what you need to do.
    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk

    Read the information.

    Find a local accountant who understands the rules and has read and interpreted the above web site.

    99.9% of Accountants don't really know the rules, they just guess at their interpretation.

    A limited liability company will only cost £30 to £50 to set up, but in doing so you have to comply with the companies house regulations.
    File on time, pay them a fee every year, file your documents on time.

    Goodness knows I could rant on this topic for hours, but I won't.
    Limited Liability is better than sole proprietor or "a" partnership business.

    BUT - You have to abide by the rules, so read them and understand them.

    Interesting topic nonetheless.

    http://www.companieshouse.org.uk (closed at weekends though! - go figure!)

    End of rant. Hope it helped.

    Janet




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