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What's your blueprint for finding out if you can rank #1 for a keyword?

by 3afash
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I'm fairly new to IM and wanted to know how do you determine from the competition whether you can rank #1 for a keyword within a month from buying an exact match domain?

Cheers
#blueprint #finding #keyword #rank
  • Profile picture of the author tbunch
    The best factors to look at are first the number of searches compared to the number of competing sites/pages.
    The next thing would be to look at the top 10 results in Google and look at their stats:
    How many are top level domains - ie. domain.com instead of sub.domain.com or domain.com/page
    Look at the PR - mostly less than a PR3 or lower is best
    Look at how many have backlinks from .edu or .gov sites - less is better
    How many have the keyword In Title, Description or H1 tags - Less is best

    These are all factors to getting the highest rankings for a given keyword or phrase. To say you want #1 in a month, unless it is an obscure niche, is not realistic if you are just starting out.

    I am sure you will get much more feedback but I hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author nakmuay7
    hardest bit is picking the niche and keywords.

    general rules.
    1 if some one else owns the .com domain and it is on page1 its almost never worth going with that niche.
    2 onpage seo is a big factor as you can outrank others who have no seo even if they have lots of links
    3 make sure your links comming to the site are not all to the one page /index spread them around the site even the privacy page.
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    • Profile picture of the author thebarksmeow
      Originally Posted by nakmuay7 View Post

      hardest bit is picking the niche and keywords.

      general rules.
      1 if some one else owns the .com domain and it is on page1 its almost never worth going with that niche.
      2 onpage seo is a big factor as you can outrank others who have no seo even if they have lots of links
      3 make sure your links comming to the site are not all to the one page /index spread them around the site even the privacy page.
      Your #1 and #3 is a joke.

      To OP:

      1. I focus on top 10 ONLY. I don't care how many competing sites there are.
      2. I then look at onpage SEO. Specifically keyword in the title, in the description, and in the url.
      3. Then I look at backlinks. If they have a lot, I then look at the quality of the backlinks. Sometimes all the backlinks are junk or they come from the same site, etc.
      4. Finally, I "might" look at the age of the site and PR. All that depends on my 1, 2, and 3.

      Oh yeah, you need to focus on 3 months instead of being #1 in one month. Unless the keyword is ridiculously easy.
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      • Profile picture of the author marketguy
        Originally Posted by tbunch View Post

        The best factors to look at are first the number of searches compared to the number of competing sites/pages.
        The next thing would be to look at the top 10 results in Google and look at their stats:
        How many are top level domains - ie. domain.com instead of sub.domain.com or domain.com/page
        Look at the PR - mostly less than a PR3 or lower is best
        Look at how many have backlinks from .edu or .gov sites - less is better
        How many have the keyword In Title, Description or H1 tags - Less is best

        These are all factors to getting the highest rankings for a given keyword or phrase. To say you want #1 in a month, unless it is an obscure niche, is not realistic if you are just starting out.

        I am sure you will get much more feedback but I hope this helps.
        PR is not as important as you think. i outrank PR5's with my pages with ease.

        Originally Posted by thebarksmeow View Post

        #1 and #3 is a joke.
        agreed. 1 and 3 are laughable.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    Look at the backlinks of the #1 page - Does he have any that are better than PR1? Can you get the same kinds of links? Don't forget a PR update on the toolbar has not happened for several months so you may not be seeing the true PR of his links. Also check the anchor text.

    Then, check if that page has any onsite SEO for the keyword.

    Then look at the domain the page is on - if it is a high PR authority domain that could be a problem - your domain is new so you are at a disadvantage here.

    If #1 is not a big authority and you can get the same quality links then you can probably take over that spot in time.

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  • Profile picture of the author Velshire
    Check where you are ranking right now. Get SEOBook's toolbar. Go through each site ranking higher than yours and compare how many backlinks they have, what kind of backlinks, how many pages, domain age etc. Analyze what needs to be done and whether you should be focusing on quantity or quality, all depends on the niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author ~kev~
    Originally Posted by 3afash View Post

    how do you determine from the competition whether you can rank #1 for a keyword within a month from buying an exact match domain?

    Cheers
    Determining where you will rank for a certain keyword is not possible.

    There have been several SEO companies that have been sued for promising ranking results, and they could not deliver. Just go to google and do a search for seo company sued - you should get around 792,000 results.

    Here is one result you might be interested in - SEOmoz | Washington State Sues SEO Company Visible.net

    If you want to know where you rank, use your google webmaster tools. It will show where you rank for your top 100 search phrases or keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChristineP
    Ranking seems to be a forever learning curve. I've got a site which *should* outrank at least 3 in the top 10 as I've got more indexed pages, backlinks, better SEO etc.. but I'm sitting way back at page 13 for one of my inner pages and my main domain pretty much doesn't even rank.
    Sigh, but I'm keeping at it!
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  • Profile picture of the author seoweb2000
    -I would download a trail of market samurai. do a search for Seot greater than 500 and seoc of less than 250000 no greater than 500000. Make a list

    take the list and look at the list of competitive sites on page 1 for each keyword, see how much backlinks they have for each keywords and onpage factors. ( see tutorials in market samurai)

    Make a list of all of the sites the top guys are getting links from and try to copy there linking strategy.

    If it looks like a lot of work for a keyword , than it probably is. Good luck

    PS. I dont work for MS , it is just every useful
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