Newbies: Don't Chase Post Count

Think I just Reached my 50 mark really wanted to send a PM couple of weeks ago but wouldnt post rubbish ever.

Want to be a valued member here known for giving good advice.

To be fair the people who do post crap arent earning themselves any credibility with other members

OK. I'm reporting all these useless one-liner post-count whore responses

What excellent advise!!

No wonder you've been thanked 2039 times in 1053 posts.

So I'm going to make it 2040.

I don't post that often at the moment but I like to think I always post something useful and helpful about a tolpic I know something about.

People who Just post " great post - thanks " or " I Agree " clearly want to get their signature file noticed with the minimum of effort.

What they don't realise is that most people on WF ( or any other for that matter ) recognise this and personally I think it does nothing for their reputation.

Thanks for being a genuinely helpful Guy and if you're already rich then I hope you get even richer!

Kindest

Deborah

This guy will show you how..

grt info thx

Funny, but I didn't even want to pm anyone when I first got here. I read a lot, asked questions, participated. It's really a small thing to wait for 50 relevant posts. What's the big hurry?

No, it actually does precisely what it's designed to do: identify the people who are trying to game the system and extract value from the forum without providing any.

If someone is trying to be part of this community, and participate, and learn, and contribute... his first 50 posts are going to be quality posts. He's the new guy, and he has to prove himself, and he knows it.

But if he's just trying to get the PM privilege so he can spam people with a crappy JV offer, his first 50 posts are going to suck. He doesn't want to contribute or be part of the community. He just wants more eyeballs on his offer, and he doesn't care how he gets them.

And we don't like those people much here, so the mods tend to kick them out.

with all due respect, i see it completely differently.
8 years of membership
8 years of getting valuable inside
8 years of getting free, or dirt cheap products in the war room
37 post
not a single "thank you" from anyone

suggests to me, that you have not given back a single thing.
i am willing to bet you are the only one with such statistics.

Great post.

Can't you just purchase a membership to the War Room to send PM's.

I don't understand why post count is so important to some people anyways. By the time that I reach 1000 posts it will take me more than 11 years at my current post rate!

Actually, you can still:

- read the forum (if you clear the login cookie)
- receive PMs (but not log in to read them)
- get email notifications

So if you have "instant notification by email" for your PM inbox, you can still respond to those people who have other notification methods. You can also have a friend on the forum PM another user on your behalf; I've enlisted several people's assistance in responding to customer questions on WSO threads and in my PM box while I was temporarily banned.

Subscribed threads are different. You have to revisit the forum and log in to reset the subscription, so you get at most one notification during your ban. So you have to manually scan your WSO threads for any customer issues that need your attention. (Warrior Plus is good for that. Even if you're banned from the forum, you're not banned from Warrior Plus, so you can use that to keep an eye on your WSO threads.)

I don't know if you can "bump" a WSO while banned. I suspect you can, but I'm not volunteering to try. I do know you can bump someone else's WSO, though... so you could always send $20 to someone who isn't banned to bump it.

A customer once observed that in the two months he'd known me, I spent more than half my time banned from the forum. When I went back and counted... I spent about 25% of my first year temporarily banned.

And I've still sold WSOs while I was banned, too. On some level, I found that shocking. "You actually bought something from a banned member? Wow. Just... wow."

Whether you paid or not, the rules are the same, and if you're breaking the rules you'll get banned just as fast. The mods do not take War Room membership or active WSO threads into account when making those decisions.

Well banning the IP would be dumb lol you never know who you be banning then IP changes often thou i am unsure about US networks seen some static IP's from there and if you need to Change your IP you just switch Mac adress takes a few sec if you know how.
But i agree this should be a sticky

The real "trick" is to not use any tricks. It's not hard to post genuine questions and answers and get 50 posts. Really, newbies should be more interested in giving and getting value and information from the forum than post count for the sake of post count. You'll get more from the forum if you don't try to game it.

[chuckle] Yeah. That always works out well.

Getting caught doing a lot of one-liners and moving from section to section brings harsher punishment than simply posting a handful in one section every day. Hit the wrong notes, which most of them do, and we'll know to look.

You need to understand that the people who have forum-wide moderation access are all very senior members. Three of them were here before me. The others are at 7 and 8+ years, respectively. We will recognize the patterns. Trying to outwit the system by hiding a bunch of meaningless posts just screams, "Planning something sneaky." Making a few one-liners among other, more useful, posts is just a newbie habit that doesn't draw much attention.


Paul

Another Thread much ado about nothing ! Geeesh !!

People keep asking the same questions over and over. Also, read the forums before you make a new discussion about the same topics..

Hi -

Speaking as a forum "newbie", I think the short posts can accidentally sorta happen.
For a very long time I resisted checking this forum out, thinking it was just another place to market your products, and I didn't want to be part of that.
You can't do internet marketing for very long without hearing about this forum.

I finally thought I should just check it out myself, and boy am I kicking myself for not scoping it out sooner (and for prejudging something I knew nothing about )!

I feel like I have gone to IM info heaven! I have posting A.D.D. in the worst way! I find myself addicted - so much to learn, so little time

Anyhow, not caring the least about my "post count", if I thought someone gave me valuable information, I have wrote a couple of short posts thanking them. You know - sometimes it really is sincere.

Just trying to be decent, my instinct was to wait for any signature links or post links until I get to know the place better, and to see where I could add value first. I do belong to a couple of other forums so I figured the unspoken "rules" would be the same.

So hopefully those posts don't make me look like a spammer!

I am really liking this place & don't want to get the boot

Thanks,
Barb

You're signature is fine the way it is. Just contribute to the forum and
you'll be okay.

Hi FusciaPhoenix,

I'm new here too but I don't think thats what he's getting at. I was worried too, I've a bunch of posts in a short time but thats only because I love answering questions and helping other people out. Your signature is nice and only there to help. If it is frowned upon I can't tell you why. I think a more senior person is needed here to explain that. I spoke to one earlier, they are just trying to snub out the idiots that ruin it for everyone else, posting silly one liners like "thanks", "great post" etc just to get the post count up. Best see what a top don says but I can't see what you have to do with scamming.

[edit; And Mr Wagenheim gets there to answer it first! there's your answer.]

As a relatively new person I have been more learning from others than trying to teach things I'm not sure about anyway, although the balance gets better all the time as I do learn some things and try others out. Whatever I did say was probably wrong, anyway, as it is.

There have been many times that I've been frustrated by not being able to find a thanks button, as I have felt grateful many times, to a number of people, but not only could I find no info anywhere in the instructions about that, but I also hesitated to make an otherwise useless post to just thank someone verbally.

I could have helped out with spelling, or grammar, but no. I knew much ado, from Shakespeare, and have seen people use adieu as if it were from the French. Not sure with tow the line/toe the line, I've always favored the latter.

I guessed maybe it would come at 10 posts, or something, reasoning maybe its like the PM thing,
and have learned to live with this frustration.

Now today for the first time ever, I just found the thanks button!

It wasn't there before. I would have seen it. The only other thing different today that might explain it was my fifth post occurred last night at 2 am. Also I remembered my log-in password, and logged in, so that may be part of it. Certainly not all of it. I wish it was there sooner.

The first one went to the man who hasn't once been thanked in 8 years, as an honorary thanks to all the Unknown Lurkers as well, here he has 37 posts, and did join the War Room, and said he's being careful, which I have done too, so I can appreciate that. I would encourage the many thousands of quiet ones to step in sometimes. Let it never be said again. Ya got one. Thanks for showing you're still out there, and you never quit.

The second to CDarklock, who I have been wanting to thank a bunch of times at least since he used to have a halo. It's been a while.

Sbuccieri I am afraid to thank just yet, although she has elsewhere earned it, for fear of abusing the button now that I finally earned it. Don't know the limits. I researched the difference between Bat-Woman and Cat-Woman a few weeks ago, in part thanks to you. Plus your sig thing.

Crew Chief, Alexa, and many others I will get to thank you later. And Steve W, although I did laugh at that imitation video a while back, it was good- naturedly and I remember things you've said.

I just wrote almost the exact same response. Then I thought someone will probably pick me up on it for being a one liner. :rolleyes:

The real irony is some spammer resurrected the thread and no one seems to realise you wrote this last August. Mind you, it's just as relevant today as it was then, as you've just pointed out.

Out of interest what does "post usefulness, refuse useless" mean anyway? Or are we back on the subject of Absinthe again?

Hi Jun,

Sorry my friend, you must have come along a bit late.

That's the great thing about the mods, they move fast to get rid of that sort of nonsense.

Jun, Nope. I deleted the spam that resurrected this one. It's such a useful thread, I didn't send it back into the depths of the archive.


Paul