Duplicate Content?! POO-POO!! -- Really? Think Again...

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NEWBIES USING PLR CONTENT PAY ATTENTION (this is mostly for YOU)...

I say that because normally I am content just working in my little corner of the web doing what I do. Mostly just ignoring what (innocently) ignorant things I see other IMers doing. I feel that if you've been on the Net attempting to run a business for at least two years, then you should know better than to do certain things.

Yet, those who are just starting out; (esp. in today's environment of mass misinformation); its much harder to discern what is what and how to go about things.

So...

OK, so I'm going over the Google Webmaster Tools docs regarding Duplicate Content, right? Yeah, I know this stuff already but I like to keep abreast or even just re-read stuff to more firmly plant it in my brain.

OK, I'm reading... reading... nothing really new.. yeah, yeah, yeah.. as long as you're not maliciously creating duplicate content to manipulate the SEs you're good. As far as dupe content on other domains; "...that's a factor which we (Google) determine based on available data..." blah blah blah...

Basically, (IMHO), from what I've always gathered (and seen in test results) is that whomever can rank their site better (overall) is the one that gets the better ranking. Rank; meaning utilizing all the tools made available to rise up the SERPs, (and not just tools made available by the SEs).

(of course, some may argue this with me.. but, I've seen enough proof to just say "ok" to those who disagree).

Which means; its pretty much a battle out here for those coveted top 10(20) spots in the SERPs; well DUH. Everybody knows this. So we do what we can... how we can... backlinks, ads, content... yeah, yeah, yeah.. this info you can get from multiple web sites and by searching the WF. Common knowledge.

BUT... (and this is where it gets interesting)... I don't know about you but I grew up getting certain rules drilled into my head and one of those rules was..

"There ARE NO RULES in love and war"

So.. since we're in this constant battle.. when I read the following...

Originally Posted by Google

If you find that another site is duplicating your content by scraping (misappropriating and republishing) it, it's unlikely that this will negatively impact your site's ranking in Google search results pages. If you do spot a case that's particularly frustrating, you are welcome to file a DMCA request to claim ownership of the content and request removal of the other site from Google's index.

Reference Document:
Duplicate content - Webmaster Tools Help
First thing in my mind is "..uh oh.."

Why? Well, the bolded text in that above quote is a link to the DMCA review request procedure. They don't make it very difficult for someone to cry wolf; evil wolf, if you know what I mean.

If you don't; (and maybe its just me and the kinds of environments I've seen and been introduced to); someone could cause you a LOT of problems, if they so chose to IF you're not taking that extra step in making sure your content is as original as possible. Trust me when I say that there ARE people that WILL take the time to go the distance to sabotage you IF it seems like it will be beneficial to THEM.

Fake info isn't hard to come by these days. It doesn't take much for someone to contact Google through the above noted link and claim infringement. Shoot; they could even outsource it.

This is NOT a scare tactic; (maybe it is); but my intent is to stress to you the dire importance of your content on your site(s) being as original as you can possibly make it. Its NOT just good practice; its strategically positioned proactive business.

I know its rough juggling a full-time job, significant other, children, friends and other obligations; (been there -- done that). Can't let that get in your way of running your business, though; (unless this is just a hobby, of course).

OK, I'm done. You get it. Now apply it.

HTH
PLP,
tecHead
#content #duplicate #poopoo
  • Profile picture of the author CMCarlin
    So, you think the DMCA could come after me for using PLR?
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    • Profile picture of the author tecHead
      Originally Posted by CMCarlin View Post

      So, you think the DMCA could come after me for using PLR?
      ... no...

      the Digital Millennium Copyright Act would have no direct bearing on Private Label Rights.

      What I am attempting to get across is that just using that PLR "as is"; without significantly personalizing it could haunt you in more ways than one, down the line.
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      • Profile picture of the author Lance K
        Originally Posted by tecHead View Post

        ... no...

        the Digital Millennium Copyright Act would have no direct bearing on Private Label Rights.

        What I am attempting to get across is that just using that PLR "as is"; without significantly personalizing it could haunt you in more ways than one, down the line.
        I agree that it's a good idea to rework PLR content. But only the creator/copyright holder of the content could file a valid DMCA request.
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        • Profile picture of the author tecHead
          Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

          I agree that it's a good idea to rework PLR content. But only the creator/copyright holder of the content could file a valid DMCA request.
          ...doesn't have to be valid to claim... false claims are put upon people everyday with those that have a selfish alternative agenda...

          faking info is easy
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          • Profile picture of the author John Durham
            Originally Posted by tecHead View Post

            ...doesn't have to be valid to claim... false claims are put upon people everyday with those that have a selfish alternative agenda...

            faking info is easy
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          • Profile picture of the author Lance K
            Originally Posted by tecHead View Post

            ...doesn't have to be valid to claim... false claims are put upon people everyday with those that have a selfish alternative agenda...

            faking info is easy
            Check out this link describing the process of submitting a DMCA request.

            I especially think #6 (if they even make it that far) would be a deterrent to those thinking of submitting fake claims regarding the use of PLR content.
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          • Profile picture of the author keadams26
            Originally Posted by tecHead View Post

            ...

            faking info is easy
            That's what she said.
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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by tecHead View Post

            ...doesn't have to be valid to claim... false claims are put upon people everyday with those that have a selfish alternative agenda...

            faking info is easy
            Actually, you are subject to criminal liability if you file a false DMCA.

            Michael Crook Retracts False DMCA Claims
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  • Profile picture of the author Lyn Woodring
    I think the bigger question with PLR is it origional content? The "R" stands for rights and I assume that means publishing rights.
    But I guess it could become tricky if the PLR seller didn't create it or have the right to resell. Then you might get into trouble with the creator.
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  • Profile picture of the author David McKee
    Hey... perhaps you could start a business submitting these DMCA requests on the one hand, and. like the police radar companies who also build radar detectors, offer to help clean up sites that are under a DMCA request....a consultancy of sorts.

    Now that would be evil...
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  • Profile picture of the author Mac Deyak
    DMCA would only care if you are using copyrighted material. Since with PLR you're buying the rights then, legally there won't be any problem.
    Yes it is true some people can hassle you for using it, and it would be a pain to address all of those claims but legally you aren't doing anything wrong (as long as you respect the given rights).

    Regardless, using PLR untouched is not the best thing you can do for your business as there are probably 100s of other people using that very same content.

    If you have the rights to the content, change it up and make it better...

    -Mac
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    • Profile picture of the author tecHead
      Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

      Check out this link describing the process of submitting a DMCA request.

      I especially think #6 (if they even make it that far) would be a deterrent to those thinking of submitting fake claims regarding the use of PLR content.
      If you think a highly motivated criminal mind would find that as a deterrent, then............ ok

      Originally Posted by Mac Deyak View Post

      DMCA would only care if you are using copyrighted material.
      the DMCA is not an entity that would care or not care; its a document like any other document that can be interpreted and/or comprehended in more ways than one...

      Originally Posted by Mac Deyak View Post

      Since with PLR you're buying the rights then, legally there won't be any problem.
      Yes it is true some people can hassle you for using it, and it would be a pain to address all of those claims but legally you aren't doing anything wrong (as long as you respect the given rights).
      ...legality will rarely come to the forefront of the mind of a criminal who's already engaged in criminal activity...

      Originally Posted by Mac Deyak View Post

      Regardless, using PLR untouched is not the best thing you can do for your business as there are probably 100s of other people using that very same content.

      If you have the rights to the content, change it up and make it better...

      -Mac
      thank you; as that was the intended moral, anyway...
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
    Basically, (IMHO), from what I've always gathered (and seen in test results) is that whomever can rank their site better (overall) is the one that gets the better ranking.
    Google ranks pages, not sites.

    As far as legal liability goes, in the United States copyright registration is a prerequisite for bringing a copyright infringement lawsuit. A copyright owner cannot proceed with a copyright infringement lawsuit unless the work has been registered. Just publishing a work in a fixed medium makes it copyrighted, but to ENFORCE your copyright on a work, it has to be registered -- and that includes paying the registration fee for each work you want to protect.
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    • Profile picture of the author tecHead
      Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly View Post

      Google ranks pages, not sites.
      semantics, but OK..

      Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly View Post

      As far as legal liability goes, in the United States copyright registration is a prerequisite for bringing a copyright infringement lawsuit. A copyright owner cannot proceed with a copyright infringement lawsuit unless the work has been registered. Just publishing a work in a fixed medium makes it copyrighted, but to ENFORCE your copyright on a work, it has to be registered -- and that includes paying the registration fee for each work you want to protect.
      ...and who ever said anything about "legal liability"?? I didn't...

      ..are you a lawyer, btw?
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
        Originally Posted by tecHead View Post

        ...and who ever said anything about "legal liability"?? I didn't...
        I was just adding information, not contradicting anything you said. Just letting people know that, while their works are copyrighted upon being set into a fixed medium, they can't enforce their rights without registration.

        Originally Posted by tecHead View Post

        ..are you a lawyer, btw?
        No, but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night. And I have several of them on retainer.
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        • Profile picture of the author tecHead
          Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly View Post

          I was just adding information, not contradicting anything you said. Just letting people know that, while their works are copyrighted upon being set into a fixed medium, they can't enforce their rights without registration.
          OK, well in that case, forgive me if I came off as jumping to conclusions and thank you for adding value to the thread. ::thumbs up::

          Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly View Post

          No, but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night....
          OH! Well, then let me be the first to congratulate you on passing the Holiday Inn Bar Exam.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    For the thinking person, here are two links that tackle a comprehensive analysis of the Duplicate Content Penalty...

    As with all myths, it is important to take the theory and run it against real world results... In other words, you can make your decision with what you have read here, OR you can test how Google actually deals with Duplicate Content...

    The absolute best analysis of PLR content and the Dupe Content Penalty I have ever seen is presented here: The Duplicate Content Penalty Myth... and how to make money from it!

    I took the basic information one step further, and that analysis is posted here: Article Marketing and the Duplicate Content Penalty Myth

    Don't just take my word for it -- test the actual results to see how Google interprets it in their search results...
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    .doesn't have to be valid to claim... false claims are put upon people everyday with those that have a selfish alternative agenda...
    I'm not doubting that people do crappy stuff everyday to their competitors, but that being the case, if someone really wants to get someone else's site removed then what's to stop them from coping your original content and claiming it is theirs and filing a DMCA complaint? Why stop at PLR?
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    • Profile picture of the author tecHead
      Originally Posted by cashcow View Post

      I'm not doubting that people do crappy stuff everyday to their competitors, but that being the case, if someone really wants to get someone else's site removed then what's to stop them from coping your original content and claiming it is theirs and filing a DMCA complaint? Why stop at PLR?
      ...because the average criminal doesn't really want to work too hard; the easy mark is the preferred mark.

      Original content would be harder to create a dispute over, (IMHO).
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      • Profile picture of the author John Durham
        Originally Posted by tecHead View Post

        ...because the average criminal doesn't really want to work too hard; the easy mark is the preferred mark.

        Original content would be harder to create a dispute over, (IMHO).


        ... Okay, Im with you so far (to answer don henley's question in the song life in the fast lane). It's makin sense...
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