Any SEO experts?

I'm on one too. Don't ask why - long story. It doesn't come up first, but it's above the fold.

I honestly don't know how they get away with this sort of thing but they do. At the time I was getting all sorts of threats and it scared me ****less. First time I'd ever come across anything like it so I really believedthese guys were going to come knocking at my door, complete with firearms lol.

As soon as it was put up there I recieved an offer from an 'SEO' company advising me how damaging it was and offering to bury it for me. So nice of them,don't you think?:rolleyes: But actually that was what convinced me it was nothing more than a scam and I actually felt quite chuffed that someone out there thought I was big enough to worry about.

I've often thought about trying to bury it myself but then it serves as a reminder to me of just how much rubbish is out there so I leave it alone. Probably not all that good for anyone who doesn't know me doing a search and seeing it there, but I guess that's a risk I'm prepared to take for now.

Hi Livo,

I'm sorry to hear you didn't get a refund? If you asked for one within 14 days you should have got one by return?

I ran it myself and employed someone (a Mr Tim Thomas) full time for customer support. It was mad/inundated the first couple of months until we sorted out the FAQ's & support.

Simon Stepsys was an affiliate/member who joined exactly the same as you.

I was hoping there would be a few old members on this site. To find someone who never got a refund is sods law I guess. Don't suppose you've got your original email receipt?

I have been on the Internet since 1993.

I have bad RAP about me and my company on Scam.com. I just focused on building my business and rebut it if someone brings it up. It was done to extort me from doing business with the real focus of their contempt.

So it has become a non issue as I have built a ton of back links and articles and blogs over the years and it ranks so far down in the search engines to really matter.

And another thing, I conduct myself responsibly and "do the right thing". People know me and know I am a good business man and always treat the customer right. Heck you can even call me on my cell phone.

So bottom line, move on and ignore and build your web branding and business.

I am also on the RipOff report for giving away free subscriptions and the complainer complained because they felt like they deserved even more then we give away.

Go figure.

Thomas Prendergast

I always wondered how those "scam alert" type sites survive. I'm all for protecting each other from scam artists but basically anyone can sign up and leave an unsubstantiated and even worse anonymous post that will stay forever (or until the site goes down).

I never trust the info on those scam alert sites. It's the equivalent of the an affiliate setting up a fake review site.

The only one I would trust is the BBB (not sure if they have that across the pond) but they actually require proof and investigate. And they give the accused a chance to tell their side of the story.

I think you've gotten spot on advice of going to the host and the CafePress/PayPal. I would also hire a lawyer. You can't libel people, even on the Internet.

Thanks John,

I don't know about Livewebs? But yes I can prove all the allegations on the post are false. The "aliases" are simply members autoresponder account emails. Everyone who bought the package also got their own autoresponder account.

If there's no joy from the letters I've sent to the site and his hosting co, then I will contact Cafe Press & Paypal. Failing that then it's time I sorted this & have a lawyer look into it.