Is warrior forum shaping the internet?

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Just came on my mind today that warrior forum and some other 2-3 internet marketing forums are somewhat shaping the internet today. Just think about it. They are shaping facebook by the strategies user of this forums use. User of this forum create new domain sites. New proxy sites. Everything. Every new techinque that a respected users share is then applied on a lot of sites. So what do you think? Is shaping the internet?

PS: Hmm I see this is my 100th post!
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Ranger
    I hope people don't mind me saying that is a huge overstatement.

    Most of the people that have an influence on the way the Internet is going don't really participate on forums so much. They're out there creating things, changing things and making money.

    That's just my 2 cents!
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  • Profile picture of the author christopherNV
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    • Profile picture of the author rts2271
      If you want to see what shapes the business internet look at the porn and gambling industry. IM and WF are about 2 years behind on most "tactics"
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      • Profile picture of the author RyanRobinson
        I don't think so. It may be shaping the internet for Internet Marketers but not for the genreal public.

        In my opinion, it's people like Mark Zuckerberg (the creator of facebook) and other entrepreneurs that create an idea that becomes so popular, near enough every internet user hops onto the bandwagon.

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    • Profile picture of the author Blogmudgeon
      The short answer is yes and no. :confused:

      In general, the IM industry plays a powerful role in the economic basis of the internet--and influences user behaviors. This is just one component of things though.

      As was stated, there are developers and trend leaders that introduce new methods and practices--and expand on existing ones. For something to become a trend though--irrespective of how innovative an initiative might be--requires adaptation on a broad scale. It is through resources like this that many things come into general practice.

      Think of it this way. In almost every facet of human development there are three categories of function; Enablers, Trendsetters, and Practitioners. The enablers are those who provide the technology or resources to do something--such as the basic infrastructure of the internet or programmers who create platforms such as Wordpress. Trendsetters are also known as "early adopters"--those who recognize the potential of a particular resource, deploy it, and provide feedback to the enabler on how to refine the process. Ultimately, the practitioners seize on the ability to actualize on a wide scale what the trendsetters have set forth. In our case this can range from publishers to consumers.

      This is all a continual feedback loop--and occurs not just once as a macrostructural event--but in numerous increments of scale and scope within the three categories and even sub levels in those right down to the microstructural framework. The change cycle is constant, requires acceptance at all levels--or fails. The world is littered with initiatives that are examples such rejection--looking at your computer screen think about the rise of Windows over a much better operating system, OS2, or the supremacy of VHS over Betamax.

      As to the influence of various social media (this forum being an example) keep in mind that enablers monitor such things to key in on practice, problems, and needs. This information drives back into product development cycle--creating wave after wave of innovation. Everyone has seen the graph that shows growth, saturation, and decline--and how something else is introduced near the saturation to peak as the previous thing declines. So yes, what we say and especially what we do has an impact.


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  • Profile picture of the author The Dotcom Hippie
    Heh, I can absolutely assure you that it's not.
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  • Profile picture of the author tecHead
    If you're referring to a huge percentage of Warriors that are all about theory and very little action; then yeah... shaping the competitive landscape for those that do take action, sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    I would say that the techniques bantered about in IM forums are actually more "following" the lead of the real players.

    Everything is based on gaming the systems created by the real innovators. Looking for holes and tricks to create an edge.

    I would never call that shaping the internet.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      With due respect to the skeptics, I'll suggest that we play a significant role in a limited part of the development of commerce online. Specifically, the ways that small businesses do things. That's one of the big reasons we're so hard on certain practices.

      Consider: For every one person who posts, there are 9 or more who are just reading. That's a rough norm for most online discussion systems, by the way. Some folks will move toward black-hat methods no matter what we do, and some will avoid them without our presence. There's a large middle ground, though, that are influenced by what they see others doing, and by arguments for and against various types of action.

      There are also people who want to do things in an ethical way but aren't clear on the impact of various techniques.

      There are tens of thousands of active members in this forum. There are more who visit regularly and never register. And a lot of the more well-known folks in the business rarely (if ever) post, but visit here regularly.

      What we say and do here has a very real impact on this market. And what people learn here is taken out into the various niches and taught to others. The immediate effect is obviously somewhat limited, but the long-term impact we have on the way people in this section of online commerce do things is much larger than most people would expect.

      In some areas, the impact is immediate and large. If a specific technique catches the attention of the members here, it can spread very quickly. In that regard, the Warrior Forum is like a massive, 24/7/365 product launch.

      I certainly wouldn't say we shape it. I do think we have a strong influence on a limited, but important, part of the way things are done online.

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