Article quality in decline?

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I have definitely noticed that the quality of
articles I see on ezinearticles.com (and other
databases as well) has declined over the past
year or so.

I used to be able to run a search for what I
was looking for and could almost always use
the first 6 articles that came up. Not anymore.

For a while now I have had to search through
the first 6 just to find one that would suffice.

And I am finding myself rejecting many by authors
that have been very good about quality content
in the past. I can't claim that everything I write
is Gary Halbert or John Carlton quality, but this
trend bugs me a bit.

It isn't just article content either.

Two weeks ago I read an ebook that I had purchased
with MRR based on the strength of the salespage.
There was more useful information in that salesletter
than in the 30 some odd pages of the book.

So I rewrote it and added what I already knew about
the topic(at least 5x what was in the ebook) as a new
product, just because I was irritated.
(lol, guess at least it motivated me)

I guess with all of the information out there that says
that "Anyone Can Create Their Own Product" and that
"Anyone Can Write Their Own Articles" it would be nice
if they did some research so that there is some value
involved.

Rant over...

I feel better. You?
#article #decline #quality
  • Profile picture of the author Mike McBride
    Originally Posted by Floyd Bogart View Post


    I guess with all of the information out there that says
    that "Anyone Can Create Their Own Product" and that
    "Anyone Can Write Their Own Articles" it would be nice
    if they did some research so that there is some value
    involved.
    Agreed.

    How many times do you see someone new to this forum ask how they can earn some money, and no matter how poorly-written, unintelligible, quasi-illiterate the post, they're met with, "Write articles!" or "Try bum marketing" or "Create some PLR and sell it as a WSO!"?

    And so they do, and the crap-pile grows higher...
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    • Profile picture of the author Devin T
      Originally Posted by Mike McBride View Post

      Agreed.

      How many times do you see someone new to this forum ask how they can earn some money, and no matter how poorly-written, unintelligible, quasi-illiterate the post, they're met with, "Write articles!" or "Try bum marketing" or "Create some PLR and sell it as a WSO!"?

      And so they do, and the crap-pile grows higher...
      This is so incredibly true. People flood trends that once were profitable and drain them until there is nothing left. Compare it to the gold rushes seen in the 1800s. The first ones who were in the game were able to make it big, but once EVERYONE flooded there to make a quick buck, nothing was to be had. You will not make fast money by following what someone tells you. You need to be unique: be the first on the scene or the first to implement a new strategy. Be the first to write on this subject, or capitalize on a need. Trying to find success where everyone is looking for a quick buck is a sure way to fail.

      Let's quit fooling ourselves and realize that the only way to make money is through hard work. Learn this and apply it and you'll find the rewards you've been seeking.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jakehyten
    Yep as a matter of fact. If im doing research not even for my business but for personal reasons or other. If i see an ezine areticle in google I wont even read it. Ill avoid on purpose! Its the most ridiculous crap. The typical weight loss article:

    How To Lose Weight So Fast Its CRAZY!

    You want to lose weight right? Yes of course. Being overweight is not good. Its fun to lose weight. Losing weight is easy if you really want it. Have fun when losing weight. Lose weight in a box or with a fox. Dont overeat in your house or with a mouse. You will feel GREAT once you apply these very simple tips to lose weight now!

    Go buy my diet product now and get a 50% bonus that you can ONLY get here!
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
      Originally Posted by Jakehyten View Post

      The typical weight loss article:

      How To Lose Weight So Fast Its CRAZY!

      You want to lose weight right? Yes of course. Being overweight is not good. Its fun to lose weight. Losing weight is easy if you really want it. Have fun when losing weight. Lose weight in a box or with a fox. Dont overeat in your house or with a mouse. You will feel GREAT once you apply these very simple tips to lose weight now!

      Go buy my diet product now and get a 50% bonus that you can ONLY get here!
      LOL, that's great! Classic

      Dr Suess Weight Loss
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    • Profile picture of the author Habitat
      Originally Posted by Jakehyten View Post

      Yep as a matter of fact. If im doing research not even for my business but for personal reasons or other. If i see an ezine areticle in google I wont even read it. Ill avoid on purpose! Its the most ridiculous crap. The typical weight loss article:

      How To Lose Weight So Fast Its CRAZY!

      You want to lose weight right? Yes of course. Being overweight is not good. Its fun to lose weight. Losing weight is easy if you really want it. Have fun when losing weight. Lose weight in a box or with a fox. Dont overeat in your house or with a mouse. You will feel GREAT once you apply these very simple tips to lose weight now!

      Go buy my diet product now and get a 50% bonus that you can ONLY get here!
      Thats hilarious. I write articles And English is my first language! So yeah..<3 you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Floyd Bogart
    Exactly my point.

    One of the most prolific writers on ezinearticles.com
    will post 20 or so articles at a time, with the most
    general information rehashed 20 times.

    I have always tried to only post articles that have
    some kind of specific info, so that there is SOME
    value to be had. I dunno, maybe I fail as badly
    as those I am criticizing, but I don't think so...
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    • Profile picture of the author Scott Burton
      Originally Posted by Floyd Bogart View Post

      Exactly my point.

      One of the most prolific writers on ezinearticles.com
      will post 20 or so articles at a time, with the most
      general information rehashed 20 times.

      I have always tried to only post articles that have
      some kind of specific info, so that there is SOME
      value to be had. I dunno, maybe I fail as badly
      as those I am criticizing, but I don't think so...
      I have always been of the opinion that if you want a reader to take action, especially an action that is of value to you, they have to see value in what you are asking them to do. The easiest way to do this, is to give them something up front, which they can use whether they take your desired action or not.

      Instead of beating around the bush with meaningless drivel, in the weight loss article niche, give them 2 or 3 things they can do now which will make a difference and let this free giving of knowledge build goodwill and trust. They can then decide to buy based on this value.

      But make sure your follow through adds even more value.

      If I feel like the article I just read gives me valuable information, I'm more likely to buy what you have to offer because it should contain even more value.

      If I buy and then find that the article was more valuable than the product, I'm going to be livid about it and be looking for that refund.
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  • Profile picture of the author Floyd Bogart
    I am always reluctant to ask for a refund if there is even
    ONE item of value in a product that I didn't know before.

    Feels like if you are in the information business, how can
    you ask for a refund when you can't give the information
    back. Just my own quirk, but frankly I am more likely to
    just not buy from that particular person again.

    One of the reasons I gravitate towards offers like the one
    in my sig now is that the value is more tangible. Obviously
    websites are still digital products, but you can see the product
    even if you can't hold it.
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  • Profile picture of the author traces2757
    Originally Posted by Floyd Bogart View Post

    I have definitely noticed that the quality of
    articles I see on ezinearticles.com (and other
    databases as well) has declined over the past
    year or so.

    I used to be able to run a search for what I
    was looking for and could almost always use
    the first 6 articles that came up. Not anymore.

    For a while now I have had to search through
    the first 6 just to find one that would suffice.

    And I am finding myself rejecting many by authors
    that have been very good about quality content
    in the past. I can't claim that everything I write
    is Gary Halbert or John Carlton quality, but this
    trend bugs me a bit.

    It isn't just article content either.

    Two weeks ago I read an ebook that I had purchased
    with MRR based on the strength of the salespage.
    There was more useful information in that salesletter
    than in the 30 some odd pages of the book.

    So I rewrote it and added what I already knew about
    the topic(at least 5x what was in the ebook) as a new
    product, just because I was irritated.
    (lol, guess at least it motivated me)

    I guess with all of the information out there that says
    that "Anyone Can Create Their Own Product" and that
    "Anyone Can Write Their Own Articles" it would be nice
    if they did some research so that there is some value
    involved.

    Rant over...

    I feel better. You?
    This is a subject that gives me facial tics: articles that are written badly and filled with garbage. Some articles just tell you things you already know. Others are filled with 'information' that someone just made up around keywords.

    I write articles for other people, and I use keywords. But I never, ever make up facts, and I care about spelling, grammar, punctuation and flow of words.

    I don't know, but when I am looking at an article, a sales pitch, or any kind of copy, I am turned off by shoddy writing and questionable information. The person who wrote or posts such an article loses credibility with me.

    I understand that writing is not a strong suit for some people, but there are ways to make up for this. There are spell checkers, guidebooks on how to write correctly, reliable ways to research information, and of course, outsourcing to people for whom writing 'is' a strong suit.

    Okay, I'm done venting. Some subjects get me going.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      A lot of people mistake "level of information" for article quality.

      They are not the same thing.

      I make it no secret that at least in the IM niche, I write for the new people
      coming up. So I am going to write about things that most seasoned vets
      would consider basic. That does not mean the quality of the article is poor.

      It's pointless to write about advanced topics for new folks when some of
      them don't even know how to use FTP yet.

      If the article is well written, if it's not dull and if it presents the information
      accurately, then don't confuse "level of information" with article quality.

      They are NOT the same thing.
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      • Profile picture of the author traces2757
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        If the article is well written, if it's not dull and if it presents the information
        accurately, then don't confuse "level of information" with article quality.

        They are NOT the same thing.
        Every article will contain information that someone already knows. As far as information goes, I just care that it is correct, or not presented as fact when it is an opinion.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          Originally Posted by traces2757 View Post

          Every article will contain information that someone already knows. As far as information goes, I just care that it is correct, or not presented as fact when it is an opinion.
          Ah, opinion. I write a lot of opinion pieces. I make it very clear that it is my
          opinion based on my own experience.

          Opinion pieces are about the easiest to write if you do them correctly. I'd
          rather write an opinion piece than a dull fact based article any day.
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      • Profile picture of the author ragnartm
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        A lot of people mistake "level of information" for article quality.

        They are not the same thing.

        I make it no secret that at least in the IM niche, I write for the new people
        coming up. So I am going to write about things that most seasoned vets
        would consider basic. That does not mean the quality of the article is poor.

        It's pointless to write about advanced topics for new folks when some of
        them don't even know how to use FTP yet.

        If the article is well written, if it's not dull and if it presents the information
        accurately, then don't confuse "level of information" with article quality.

        They are NOT the same thing.
        Well said, I do this as well. Because fact is, there is just way more "newbs" out there than seasoned ones, this goes for almost any niche imo.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
      Originally Posted by traces2757 View Post

      This is a subject that gives me facial tics: articles that are written badly and filled with garbage. Some articles just tell you things you already know. Others are filled with 'information' that someone just made up around keywords.

      I write articles for other people, and I use keywords. But I never, ever make up facts, and I care about spelling, grammar, punctuation and flow of words.
      The fact that you already knew what was in the article doesn't make it a bad article. If I read a first grade math book, I would already know what it teaches. That doesn't make it a bad book, since it wasn't written for adults.

      As for things like spelling and grammar, aren't the editors at the article sites responsible for that? I don't expect them to fix the articles, but if there are problems of that type, shouldn't they reject the article? What is the point of having editors if not?

      As for keywords, I agree. I write articles based on ideas, not keywords. I know that's not the way I'm "supposed to" do it, but I don't know how to take a keyword and make an article out of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author bobsstuff
    I just got a 60+ page ebook. I print everything, but printing it was a pain. I converted it from PDF to TXT

    I deleted all the excessive headers and footers. I now had a 21 page ebook.

    It was recommended and more than one person praised it. For newbie, guru or anyone it was a waste of time. It had very little value.
    Lots of fluff, filler and useless information.

    The ones I hate are the ones written in 20 point font. like a 1st graders first reader and is just repetitious garbage.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ryan Dodson
    I started to notice this a long time ago in the fitness section of EzineArticles. I even wrote an article about it! I'll see if I can dig it up and share it with you guys.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christie Love
    I've learned not to spend so much time focusing on things I can not change. All I can do is to focus on improving my own writing skills, so that my articles are chosen out of the bunch to be read, from beginning to end, over poor quality articles.

    It doesn't matter if the content is good. Readers are aware of poor writing. It's the biggest turn off, on the web.
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    • Profile picture of the author DavidO
      Do you see any connection between this topic and the posts we sometimes see from those who "have tried article marketing, bum marketing, etc." but have yet to make a dime?

      Crappy articles and other web content will simply not pre-sell. Unfortunately, it eventually hurts all of us because people will stop going to article directories and the credibility of the web will get even worse than it already is.

      I for one would like to see much more stringent requirements from article directories. Even the king, EZA, is pretty terrible.
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    • Profile picture of the author CBoy
      Originally Posted by Christie Love View Post

      I've learned not to spend so much time focusing on things I can not change. All I can do is to focus on improving my own writing skills, so that my articles are chosen out of the bunch to be read, from beginning to end, over poor quality articles.

      It doesn't matter if the content is good. Readers are aware of poor writing. It's the biggest turn off, on the web.
      Christie, I think this is a great point. If you can't change it, don't worry about it.

      I've noticed it on my conversions with articles that were written poorly by myself or by outsourced writers - they were considerably lower than the articles that I have written where am knowledgable or have been well researched.

      But in the end, shouldn't it mean an easier job for those that write good articles? Or is it a case of throw as much crap on the wall to see what sticks? I'm leaning more towards the former.
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  • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
    In my own educated opinion (opinion again! LOL), the whole issue disussed in the OP is due to all of the content "spinners" and "creation and distribution systems" that are out there today.

    People who are trying to make a quick buck without doing their due diligence are using these programs and systems to get their links out on the internet. I could ask one of these "authors" a relatively simple question about their niche and they would have no idea what the answer would be. They scraped their content, spun it and published it. That's a bullshit way of doing business as far as a lot of people are concerned.

    If these programs even work at all anymore, they will eventually fail...they always have and as far as I can tell, they always will.

    If you want to succeed in the long term, do it the right way. If you want to make a few dollars only to see your "system" come crashing down to nothing...go ahead...be lazy. As far as article marketing is concerned, it's about honestly, hard work and integrity these days.

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    • Profile picture of the author cballi
      Hey Allen,

      You may want to change your profile now to "The Phillies won the Series".




      -Carrie from Philly
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
        Originally Posted by cballi View Post

        Hey Allen,

        You may want to change your profile now to "The Phillies won the Series".




        -Carrie from Philly
        Why should he? It refers to the Rays being the AL champs, which they still are.

        Don't be a sore winner.
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    • Profile picture of the author KimBeckers
      I think Allen is right on, it is very frustrating trying to produce quality work when there is so much crap ou there. It not only makes it difficult for us to find the information that we are looking for but discredits a once great resource for articles at EZA.

      The things people do to make a quick buck, if they put half as much effort trying to do things right it would be a lot easier for them to find success.


      Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post

      In my own educated opinion (opinion again! LOL), the whole issue disussed in the OP is due to all of the content "spinners" and "creation and distribution systems" that are out there today.

      People who are trying to make a quick buck without doing their due diligence are using these programs and systems to get their links out on the internet. I could ask one of these "authors" a relatively simple question about their niche and they would have no idea what the answer would be. They scraped their content, spun it and published it. That's a bullshit way of doing business as far as a lot of people are concerned.

      If these programs even work at all anymore, they will eventually fail...they always have and as far as I can tell, they always will.

      If you want to succeed in the long term, do it the right way. If you want to make a few dollars only to see your "system" come crashing down to nothing...go ahead...be lazy. As far as article marketing is concerned, it's about honestly, hard work and integrity these days.

      Allen Graves
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  • Profile picture of the author Simon_Sezs
    Ezine articles and all the other sub-article sites are nothing more than "legal" doorway pages to whatever crap someone is pushing. Because of this, the writers can't give up too much information and therefore resort to articles that:

    • Usually don't solve a problem.
    • that are geared toward ranking and nothing else.
    The end result is that the searcher has a choice:

    1. either click on the link in the bio box for more crap
    2. or click away and try to find real information.
    The worst part is that most of the article marketing "gurus" out there actually promote writing like this.

    Knowing this, why would someone invest the time and energy into producing a high quality article that has actual information? I mean, what is really in it for the writer, right? Hence, thousands of articles on "how to make money online" which basically lead the user, in most cases to misinformation or regurgitated content from some guru-wanna-be.

    I hate to sound so terse but I really think that the whole bum marketing methods are completely overblown. Aside from the people who have something to promote about bum marketing (*ahem* it works, man..oh, by the way, I have an ebook showing how to do it) and make money by pimping some product on how to do it, I would be willing to wager my Audi that perhaps 3% of people doing this are breaking 6 figures and that is a very generous estimation.

    People who do buy into the hype of article marketing do what the gurus tell them to....write 10-20 articles a day, every day, hope to get ranked and eventually you will make money online.

    The big caveat is that aside from the very few, you may actually get traffic to your site (which, by the way, some of it comes from other internet marketers trying to see what you are doing) but for the amount of work that goes into it, you would have been better served creating your own site and working it instead of a parasite site like ezinearticles.

    Maybe this works if you have your own guru-li-cious ebook product but in most cases, most people will find their efforts vs. reward to be less than satisfying.

    Frankly, there are far more ways to make a quick buck online than writing a ton of half assed articles that are really no better than spam (after all, the reader rarely gets what they are looking for when they check out the article) and sending the sprawl all across the internet.

    Just my opinion though.
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  • Profile picture of the author mdunn123
    This only makes it easier for me pull my articles higher than my competition...along with the rest of my tricks....
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  • Profile picture of the author Dano77
    That's why I made my new blog post in the first place!!! Because every new article was so bland and off beat or not very useful. My blog post in my signature was designed to help people write better articles and get more traction out of them.

    A good article gets found in the search engines and spreads virally almost entirely on it's own.

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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
    Some people here make it sound as if article marketing is the only type of marketing that exists online. I know many marketers who don't use articles at all, other than in their newsletters or blogs.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chaiwriter
    Yes, ezinearticles isn't what is used to be. Not too long ago it was the place to post articles. But just like everything else in life, you find something good and before long everyone floods in and ruins it. (Reminds me of the Eagles lyric... "You call some place paradise, kiss it goodbye.")

    Anyway, I also think the people who are only willing to pay 3 or 4 bucks for an article are the ones to blame. They pay for crap, get crap, and then post crap. I wonder if the results they get are anything other than crap?


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  • Profile picture of the author Nicola Lane
    I have noticed the decline in quality corresponding closely with the fall in prices paid for content writing.

    A year ago people were paying $10 per article at Digital point - now $5 seems to be at the high end - people are now writing articles for $1 - $3 and thinking this is OK.

    As an indication of quality standards a few weeks ago a writer who had a good reputation with many tstamonials saying he wrote great articles felt that a buyer had mis treated him. He said that he had produced a perfectly acceptable article and this buyer was trying to pir him off by saying that his article wasn't good enough. so he posted his article for everyone to see. It was awful! Many native English writers pointed out that it was awful - and he was astounded - he thought it was fine, and said it was one of his best and many clients thought he was wonderful.

    I have a horrible feeling that there are actually a lot of people who don't realise how bad some of the work really is.
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    • Profile picture of the author greatpicks
      So what you are saying is that PLR member ship sites are no good any more

      Thanks
      Greatpicks

      Ps because I just signed up for 250 articles a month please tell me i am
      not wasting my money which cost me $47 a month thanks again.
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  • Profile picture of the author jeff44
    I agree that the quality of articles has gone downhill. People seem to reproduce the same monotonous content over and over again. Aside from keyword optimization, taking content and rehashing it is going to do nothing for you.

    If you are willing to write your own articles, take the time to find out what questions people have and then respond to these questions. Do some research and produce enticing content.

    If you are going to pay for articles, it all goes back to the saying of you get what you pay for. While there are people potentially paying a few dollars an article, you cannot expect quality for that kind of pay.

    If you want to have articles delivered to you that are well-researched and high in quality, you have to be willing to spend a little money. This is not to say spend $20 an article, but certainly more than a couple dollars or $47 for 250. Chances are you are going to receive 250 articles that have been fed through some automated machine that simply reworded hundreds of articles.
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