Is This What You Call Affiliate 2.0 Marketing

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Ok... so if affiliate 2.0 marketing is different from affiliate 1.0 according to Mike Filsame then the emails in my email box from MF for the past couple of months should reflect this "new and improved" type of marketing and "provide value" to the list of people that you are in "relationship" with.

So here is an image of my email inbox from MF.

Question: Does anybody see anything new and different here?

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  • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
    Maybe I'm just OCD, but did anyone else notice that there doesn't seem to be consistency in the capitalization of the letters (especially the first letters) of all those emails? That's a bit annoying...lol...sorry, if I just missed the whole point of the thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author H.Miller
    Originally Posted by daver99 View Post

    Ok... so if affiliate 2.0 marketing is different from affiliate 1.0 according to Mike Filsame then the emails in my email box from MF for the past couple of months should reflect this "new and improved" type of marketing and "provide value" to the list of people that you are in "relationship" with.

    So here is an image of my email inbox from MF.

    Question: Does anybody see anything new and different here?

    TechSmith | Screencast.com, online video sharing, mike filsame
    LOL I said the same thing. Hes talking about relationship marketing but all he does is sell,sell, sell.
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  • Profile picture of the author Recession_Proof
    Originally Posted by daver99 View Post

    Question: Does anybody see anything new and different here?
    Dave I see absolutely zero difference in those on the screenshot. Maybe he is trying to create hype illusion?
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Bainbridge
    Wow! That is intense! I mailed my subscribers 4x in 1 week once and you would of thought I'd committed some sort of serious crime from the emails and complaints I received! My list can't handle mails that frequently, and I would of thought that sending one "3 hour only" / "coupon" / "last chance" email after another would be soooo see-through...

    ..not to mention that IM people are subscribed to a lot more lists usually, so are you guys getting 40x emails a day from different marketers?... crazy!

    I guess the IM market is different and can handle (works better) on more frequent emails compared to self help markets?
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  • Profile picture of the author Hoopatang
    Not only did I get those, I also got the ones from all of the OTHER people selling this launch. Most of them had the exact same headlines as Mike's. At least the Tony Robbins ones were different and he added a little personal note in his.

    Want the secret on affiliate marketing 2.0?
    Here it is:
    Stop using the phrase "back door". Instead, use "side door".
    Stop using the words "recurring", "revshare", "residual", and "continuity". Instead, say "serial cycle".

    There. All done.
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    • Profile picture of the author daver99
      Originally Posted by Hoopatang View Post

      Not only did I get those, I also got the ones from all of the OTHER people selling this launch. Most of them had the exact same headlines as Mike's. At least the Tony Robbins ones were different and he added a little personal note in his.

      Want the secret on affiliate marketing 2.0?
      Here it is:
      Stop using the phrase "back door". Instead, use "side door".
      Stop using the words "recurring", "revshare", "residual", and "continuity". Instead, say "serial cycle".

      There. All done.
      HaHa... there you go!
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  • Profile picture of the author DreamShaper
    Originally Posted by daver99 View Post

    Ok... so if affiliate 2.0 marketing is different from affiliate 1.0 according to Mike Filsame then the emails in my email box from MF for the past couple of months should reflect this "new and improved" type of marketing and "provide value" to the list of people that you are in "relationship" with.

    So here is an image of my email inbox from MF.

    Question: Does anybody see anything new and different here?

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    As others have said - looks like nothing different at all. just a sell sell sell approach.
    I am on the list of a couple of marketers who claim that the more frequently you mail your list to start with the better you 'train' them to be responsive.

    This guy also talks about relationship marketing. But the fact I am on several different databases of his (under SAME email address) does NOT seem to penetrate his systems intelligence.

    Judge on what they do not what they say

    I suppose if one wanted to be generous then one could consider 'relationship' as meaning 'providing as many freebies as possible'.

    And Mike does seem to have a few freebies in that list.
    My guy to give him his credit DOES provide loads of free ebooks and reports and other freebie resources. Yes most have an upsell into something BUT many are of intrinsic value.

    The worst of it is that when promoting so many different products it has to be clear that the vendor CANNOT have tried or tested all the products they are recommending. So what kind of relationship care is that?

    A couple of things I bought into recently I got refunded on.
    I would have hoped that the recommender would be concerned that recommending a rubbish product would damage THEIR reputation.
    But I worry that they only care about the sales percentage that sticks in their commissions. Perhaps I should ask...
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  • Profile picture of the author Teravel
    Your picture shows that he sends a message every day (Except the 23rd), and occasionally sends multiple messages in a single day. Next thing I noticed was his spelling/grammar, or lack thereof.
    I am sorry if this person is a member here, but you have to have respect for the people on your marketing list. Not only would I unsubscribe to his list, but I would go through each of his emails and mark each of them as Spam towards Google. If enough messages are marked as spam, it could help raise a red flag against his outright disrespect, and have him marked as the spammer that he appears to be.

    If you want to earn some respect for your list... Send them a friendly email letting them know how to subscribe to your RSS feed, or send them a SHORT notice that you have posted some interesting content on your website. But, make sure this content is helpful, not just another sales pitch to the masses. You have to give in order to receive. So give your readers what they want, and they will learn to trust you, and you will find that your CTR increases, and your sales will rise as well.

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    • Profile picture of the author dt1968
      While I do agree that all he does is sell, sell, sell...I don't agree with
      marking his emails as spam. If you opted into his list, it's not spam
      and it wouldn't be fair to flag it as such. If you don't want his emails,
      simply unsubscribe.

      I'm not defending his emails, I'm on at least a couple of his lists and I
      get at least 2-4 emails from him every day (which I find quite annoying)
      and have gotten zero value from them. BUT I opted in at some point so
      marking them as spam is not right.

      I stay subscribed just to observe what he does.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jason Moffatt
        Originally Posted by dt1968 View Post

        While I do agree that all he does is sell, sell, sell...I don't agree with
        marking his emails as spam. If you opted into his list, it's not spam
        and it wouldn't be fair to flag it as such. If you don't want his emails,
        simply unsubscribe.
        Yep, that's a d*ck move right there.

        And kind of pointless anyhow since all of his emails already land in the spam folder.
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