My 250 000 dollars challenge

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Hi warriorforum members. I'm Anass Farah, I'have 16 years old and I discovered Internet Marketing one year ago. (Pretty small Presentation)

I come here to warriorforum to see if one of my challenge are possible.

I want to make 250 000 dollars in two years. I want this money for studies, I need this amout of money to be able to go and study in a famous american university(stanford).

So I'm here to present my plan to be able to do this ( And welcome to your suggestions and help)

I will use blogging + Email Marketing. I'm blogging on the self improvement niche, I've just started but I think I can earn 10000 dollars per month using my blog and affiliate marketing. The money that I will make from my blog will be used in ppv marketing, and to build a mail list in a market such us weight loss or internet marketing, and also to build some sniper sites for some product launchs ( google sniper by george brown).

So right now my mailing list can get 500 subscribers, when I will make some money I will expand it.

I will start building a mail list in weight loss & fitness, my main question is :
Is it possible to build a 10000 subscribers mailing list in one year and develop a good relashionship with them, moreover is it possible to earn 250 000 dollars in 2 years or less using my strategy ?

Thank you

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  • Profile picture of the author oneplusone
    I don't wish to discourage you, but the self improvement is market is VERY difficult even for the best of marketers to make any serious money in.

    I would recommend you go straight into a market like diet/weight loss, and start driving traffic to some offers as an affiliate.
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    • Profile picture of the author ElMundodelExito
      Originally Posted by oneplusone View Post

      I don't wish to discourage you, but the self improvement is market is VERY difficult even for the best of marketers to make any serious money in.
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      Is this true?? I never heard about this...
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  • Profile picture of the author SDenham
    What made you decide to use Internet Marketing as your vehicle to make your goal?
    Just curious. Best of luck with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author duia
    250,000 dollars in two years? To be honest, it is next to impossible for you to gain this goal after two years even if you spare no effrots to earn online.
    Although I am not good at Email marketing, I have made money blogging for several years. I guess it is difficult for you to reach the 250,000 dollars.
    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author jlucado
    Hi Anass,

    Welcome to the forum.

    Whew, what a question. You will get a lot of counseling here and a lot of good, common sense people will be wondering why you think you can do this challenge.

    This business is real tough, especially the niches you hope to prevail in, but don't let any naysayers tell you no.

    I'm just wondering myself though.....if you do make $250k in 2 years and are only 16 years old now, just what do you think Stanford could offer you that would be better than that?

    My best to you.
    Never give up on your dreams.
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    • Profile picture of the author zoeguy
      Some VERY good advice worth repeating from Jerry, especially the bit about
      never giving up on your dreams, which I am guilty of doing:

      Originally Posted by jlucado View Post

      Hi Anass,

      I'm just wondering myself though.....if you do make $250k in 2 years and are only 16 years old now, just what do you think Stanford could offer you that would be better than that?
      Never give up on your dreams.
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  • Profile picture of the author JoesMillion
    Learn to program and develop your own site, make millions or even billions when you sell it.
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      • Profile picture of the author JoesMillion
        PHP is way too easy. I learned it and Perl in less than a month.


        Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

        Do not take this advice. You will waste your 2 years trying to learn the basics of programming and you still won't have anything to show for it.

        Is $250,000 in 2 years possible?

        Yes. You're going to have to work your ass off though.

        This is my 1st year in the IM niche, (7 years online total), and if all goes to plan this November, I should clear $250k no problem.

        But I'm not going to lie to you...you need something to offer.

        You're 16 years old.

        What do you know about self improvement? Do you think an adult who is say 40 years old will listen to a 16 year old about improving his/her life?

        No...not unless there is something truly unique about you that makes you stand out - for example, being a kid millionaire would be one of those things.

        Being an Olympic athlete would be another one of those things...

        What do you know about weight loss? At 16, I'm sure you're skinny as a rail and probably don't have an ounce of fat on your body, and probably won't have it until you start kicking back a bunch of beers at 21....

        To me it looks like you are going at this the wrong way...'which niche will make me the most money'

        That answer is incorrect!

        You need to work in something you have authority to work in....
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        • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
          Originally Posted by JoesMillion View Post

          PHP is way too easy. I learned it and Perl in less than a month.
          I'm going to have to call down the BS flag on that one...

          You could totally tinker with stuff at 1 month, but not build a functional website with only a month of practice.
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          • Profile picture of the author JoesMillion
            BS?! PHP is easy to learn, pick up a book. Use what you learn to build a website, it's very easy. A functional website took me another month. I learned PHP/Perl while building a top list script to trade links, very easy.



            Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

            I'm going to have to call down the BS flag on that one...

            You could totally tinker with stuff at 1 month, but not build a functional website with only a month of practice.
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            • Profile picture of the author seasoned
              Originally Posted by JoesMillion View Post

              BS?! PHP is easy to learn, pick up a book. Use what you learn to build a website, it's very easy. A functional website took me another month. I learned PHP/Perl while building a top list script to trade links, very easy.
              The AVERAGE person starting from SCRATCH, IF they have the drive, could maybe learn enough to think they have it down in say 3+ months. The fact that you don't even mention SQL is very telling. Without a server, like SQL, you either have to create a LOT of files, or very well understand locks, and use them, and be QUICK about it. I know people that have been programming for literally YEARS that don't understand locks!

              If you know a previous computer language well, you are starting off from a better place. You might know the concepts, basic methodology, etc...

              If you know a SIMILAR computer language, learning a new one could take less than a DAY!

              BTW if you DON'T have the drive, and start from scratch? Well, I have known people that after a DECADE really couldn't truthfully say much.

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              • Profile picture of the author JoesMillion
                Drive is what helped me. I used/use MySQL. Before that, I was using text files cause my project at the time didn't need a DB.

                ONE MONTH (probably less).... that is how long it too for me master PHP. When I took computer science in college, I didn't go to a single lecture. I took my tests and did the assignments from labs.... got an A+.





                Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

                The AVERAGE person starting from SCRATCH, IF they have the drive, could maybe learn enough to think they have it down in say 3+ months. The fact that you don't even mention SQL is very telling. Without a server, like SQL, you either have to create a LOT of files, or very well understand locks, and use them, and be QUICK about it. I know people that have been programming for literally YEARS that don't understand locks!

                If you know a previous computer language well, you are starting off from a better place. You might know the concepts, basic methodology, etc...

                If you know a SIMILAR computer language, learning a new one could take less than a DAY!

                BTW if you DON'T have the drive, and start from scratch? Well, I have known people that after a DECADE really couldn't truthfully say much.

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                • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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                  Originally Posted by JoesMillion View Post

                  Drive is what helped me. I used/use MySQL. Before that, I was using text files cause my project at the time didn't need a DB.

                  ONE MONTH (probably less).... that is how long it too for me master PHP. When I took computer science in college, I didn't go to a single lecture. I took my tests and did the assignments from labs.... got an A+.

                  You went to school for computer science. :rolleyes:

                  Learning languages is far easier once you understand the basics but now you think someone who hasn't had any background can learn it in a month. Not only learn it but use it to make 250k.
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                • Profile picture of the author seasoned
                  Originally Posted by JoesMillion View Post

                  Drive is what helped me. I used/use MySQL. Before that, I was using text files cause my project at the time didn't need a DB.

                  ONE MONTH (probably less).... that is how long it too for me master PHP. When I took computer science in college, I didn't go to a single lecture. I took my tests and did the assignments from labs.... got an A+.
                  Thomas Belknap made a VERY good point, as I had also!

                  Like I kept saying earlier, FROM SCRATCH, etc....

                  You can NOT really learn computers from a lecture. The tests and assignments CAN teach.

                  Still, I wonder, do YOU understand locks, and various variable formats, date arithmetic etc... or are you just LUCKY that SQL can take care of a lot of that behind the scenes?

                  So you did NOT do this from scratch!

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            • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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              Originally Posted by JoesMillion View Post

              BS?! PHP is easy to learn, pick up a book. Use what you learn to build a website, it's very easy. A functional website took me another month. I learned PHP/Perl while building a top list script to trade links, very easy.

              Have you made 250k with your new php skills?
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              • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
                Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                Have you made 250k with your new php skills?
                In all fairness, the focus of Warrior Forum is a certain type of internet marketing built upon page generators, templates, email lists and .pdf files. This isn't exactly a breeding ground of web developers. Pretty much all of the systems talked about here are optimized for people without any real web development skills.

                The person who feels the need to learn PHP (and thus probably a number of other skills also) is probably expanding into areas where the upsides are higher than internet marketing (as "internet marketing" is defined by most of this industry segment). The risk is higher though since internet marketing projects are measured in hours, days and maybe weeks. Whereas web development you are looking at weeks, months and sometimes even years. The attraction is the potential upside.
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                • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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                  Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

                  In all fairness, the focus of Warrior Forum is a certain type of internet marketing built upon page generators, templates, email lists and .pdf files. This isn't exactly a breeding ground of web developers. Pretty much all of the systems talked about here are optimized for people without any real web development skills.

                  The person who feels the need to learn PHP (and thus probably a number of other skills also) is probably expanding into areas where the upsides are higher than internet marketing (as "internet marketing" is defined by most of this industry segment). The risk is higher though since internet marketing projects are measured in hours, days and maybe weeks. Whereas web development you are looking at weeks, months and sometimes even years. The attraction is the potential upside.
                  I really don't understand anything you said.

                  The warriorforum is about internet marketing. It isn't about page generators, templates or pdf files. Those may be some of the tech behind the strategies but isn't what the warriorforum is about.

                  I have a feeling you may need to put some things in perspective if you really think that.

                  JoeMillions said that the OP can learn php in a month and use it to make 250k within 2 years. In all fairness, he should have been able to do the same thing if it was so easy.
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                  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
                    Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                    I really don't understand anything you said.

                    The warriorforum is about internet marketing. It isn't about page generators, templates or pdf files. Those may be some of the tech behind the strategies but isn't what the warriorforum is about.

                    I have a feeling you may need to put some things in perspective if you really think that.

                    JoeMillions said that the OP can learn php in a month and use it to make 250k within 2 years. In all fairness, he should have been able to do the same thing if it was so easy.
                    Sounds to me like you interpreted his message the same way I did. It is odd that one claims to hold others in such high regard, and that guy holds the whole forum in such low regard.

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                  • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
                    Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                    The warriorforum is about internet marketing. It isn't about page generators, templates or pdf files. Those may be some of the tech behind the strategies but isn't what the warriorforum is about.
                    While you are technically correct, each individual biz forum has its own crowd behaviors. Here on WF the dominant theme is methods that do not require advanced web development practices. That is the big draw here.

                    Info product creation / .pdf
                    Article submission / Text document
                    Squeeze pages / Simple HTML or page generators
                    List building and mailing / 3rd party systems like Aweber

                    As such, don't expect epic discussions involving ad methods that do not scale down to this tech level such as visitor profiling algorithms for use in targeted advertising.

                    But none of this was really what my post was about.

                    Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                    JoeMillions said that the OP can learn php in a month and use it to make 250k within 2 years.
                    That statement was never made by anyone in this thread. This is what was said:
                    Originally Posted by JoesMillion View Post

                    Learn to program and develop your own site, make millions or even billions when you sell it.
                    That was a very generic statement, but the spirit of his post (and what sparked my post that some people misinterpreted) was that the OP would have a better chance at hitting $250,000 in two years by including advanced web development elements into his plan. Some will obviously disagree.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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                      Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

                      While you are technically correct, each individual biz forum has its own crowd behaviors. Here on WF the dominant theme is methods that do not require advanced web development practices. That is the big draw here.

                      Info product creation / .pdf
                      Article submission / Text document
                      Squeeze pages / Simple HTML or page generators
                      List building and mailing / 3rd party systems like Aweber

                      As such, don't expect epic discussions involving ad methods that do not scale down to this tech level such as visitor profiling algorithms for use in targeted advertising.

                      But none of this was really what my post was about.


                      That statement was never made by anyone in this thread. This is what was said:

                      That was a very generic statement, but the spirit of his post (and what sparked my post that some people misinterpreted) was that the OP would have a better chance at hitting $250,000 in two years by including advanced web development elements into his plan. Some will obviously disagree.
                      Ok, I will work with you.

                      Maybe I should have asked JoeMillions if he has sold a website for millions or billions.

                      Most seasoned programmers would disagree with his thoery. You have two skill sets to learn at once.

                      One, learning the basics of programming and the nuances of php including securing your site and databases.

                      Two, learning how to effectively set up a sales funnel, how to promote your product, what product to create and for what market to create if for. This in itself could take years.

                      You are still incorrect with your view of this forum. I don't know if you are successful ( I do hope so). If not then you need to start dealing with the underlying ideas behind what you spoke about. That is what this forum is about.

                      It isn't about technology. I can see why people are not making money online if that is the stuff they are concentrating on.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
                        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                        Ok, I will work with you.

                        Maybe I should have asked JoeMillions if he has sold a website for millions or billions.

                        Most seasoned programmers would disagree with his thoery. You have two skill sets to learn at once.

                        One, learning the basics of programming and the nuances of php including securing your site and databases.

                        Two, learning how to effectively set up a sales funnel, how to promote your product, what product to create and for what market to create if for. This in itself could take years.

                        You are still incorrect with your view of this forum. I don't know if you are successful ( I do hope so). If not then you need to start dealing with the underlying ideas behind what you spoke about. That is what this forum is about.

                        It isn't about technology. I can see why people are not making money online if that is the stuff they are concentrating on.
                        Three: HTML

                        Four: Learning how to design a website (if you are coding from scratch you most likely will need a custom website design because your concept will be unlike anything done before)

                        Five: Security and anti-exploit measures.

                        The simple fact of the matter is PHP + Perl cannot be learned in a month unless you have prior programming experience.

                        I don't care what anyone says.

                        JoeMillionaire forgot to mention he had a degree in computer science.

                        Sure a skilled programmer can do it in a month, but not an absolute newb who doesn't even know HTML. I don't care how motivated that are, it's just not possible.

                        JoeMillionaire, how much money did you make online during those 4 years of college learning about computers and learning how to program?

                        This guy has 2 years to do it and doesn't have the luxury of being able to go to college for 4 years to understand what you suggested.
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                          Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

                          Three: HTML

                          Four: Learning how to design a website (if you are coding from scratch you most likely will need a custom website design because your concept will be unlike anything done before)

                          Five: Security and anti-exploit measures.
                          Dan, you know I can't count that high.
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      • Profile picture of the author theemperor
        Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

        What do you know about self improvement? Do you think an adult who is say 40 years old will listen to a 16 year old about improving his/her life? Hell, I'm only 24 and I wouldn't take you seriously in that niche...

        Not unless there is something truly unique about you that makes you stand out - for example, being a kid millionaire would be one of those things.

        Being an Olympic athlete would be another one of those things...

        What do you know about weight loss? At 16, I'm sure you're skinny as a rail and probably don't have an ounce of fat on your body, and probably won't have it until you start kicking back a bunch of beers at 21....
        Daniel totally agree 100% I was going to say this myself. The word "charlatan" springs to mind!

        As a 16 year old, casting my mind back those many years... I would have written what I knew about i.e. my hobbies. I was into computer programming then, and also heavily into my studies. I also liked fishing. So a few niches I would have lot to say about. Maybe I would have chosen something related to my studies - perhaps an online guide to how to pass A-Level (i.e. post-high-school) maths.

        So although a 16 year old has not much experience of life, there is a lot of subjects that are timely for 16 year old that an older person may have forgotten what it's like, and isn't a teenager in 2010 when things are different to 'back-in-the day'.

        In a nutshell though, and it applies to anyone of any age - talk about something you know well!
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    • Profile picture of the author Halli
      And your business plan for this is how??? It's easy to say things like this but a LOT harder to achieve it.How much have you earned so far? It's ok to have a goal but the goal must be reasonable.I mean.I want to be tall,handsome and interesting but the only way for me to do that is to stand on a chair,turn off the lights and lie.
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  • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
    Lower your goal. You have virtually no chance of clearing $250,000 in your first two years.

    Since you are only 16, a goal of $25,000 in two years is more realistic to hope for. Even that will be a challenge though.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
      Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

      Lower your goal. You have virtually no chance of clearing $250,000 in your first two years.

      Since you are only 16, a goal of $25,000 in two years is more realistic to hope for. Even that will be a challenge though.
      I would disagree with that as well.

      Shoot for the moon my man. Just don't get bent out of shape if you don't reach your goal. Keep chugging along no matter what happens.
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      • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
        Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

        I would disagree with that as well.
        To go from total newbie to $250,000 in just two years is phenomenal and incredibly unlikely.

        I would be interested to hear your reasoning for disagreeing. Maybe I missed all the newbies making boat loads of cash. You tell me.
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      • You're 24 years now, then you started online marketing when you were 17 or 16 years old right ( you say that you've spend 7 years online). How much time you take to earn the same amout of money I said I mean 250 000 dollars ?
        p.s: Stanford can wait some years
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      • Profile picture of the author sampip
        Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

        I would disagree with that as well.

        Shoot for the moon my man. Just don't get bent out of shape if you don't reach your goal. Keep chugging along no matter what happens.

        Daniel I am having to agree with your comments, if you aim low you will only achieve low results. Though in this business it is important to make sure you have a strong direction of where you want to go and exactly how you want to do it, if aiming that high that quickly with little experience.

        BUT nothing is impossible, if you know how!

        Set your self stepping stones to begin with, smaller goals to reach than the big 250k in 2 years, is more realistic and will help you stay motivated and driven to continue in the short term.

        You have the big numbers -10000 mailing list is easily achievable but will take time and a lot of patience. Certain methods work differently for different niches.

        Someone has got to be a first at everything and maybe you will be the first 16 year old to crack IM at 16 years of age and succeed in your challenge of 250k.

        It will be hard work, but Good Luck to you!!
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  • Hey go for it man.

    My only advice is if you make that kind of money skip Stanford!
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  • Profile picture of the author DreamShaper
    Originally Posted by selfimprovementedge View Post

    Hi warriorforum members. I'm Anass Farah, I'have 16 years old and I discovered Internet Marketing one year ago. (Pretty small Presentation)

    I come here to warriorforum to see if one of my challenge are possible.

    I want to make 250 000 dollars in two years. I want this money for studies, I need this amout of money to be able to go and study in a famous american university(stanford).

    So I'm here to present my plan to be able to do this ( And welcome to your suggestions and help)

    I will use blogging + Email Marketing. I'm blogging on the self improvement niche, I've just started but I think I can earn 10000 dollars per month using my blog and affiliate marketing. The money that I will make from my blog will be used in ppv marketing, and to build a mail list in a market such us weight loss or internet marketing, and also to build some sniper sites for some product launchs ( google sniper by george brown).

    So right now my mailing list can get 500 subscribers, when I will make some money I will expand it.

    I will start building a mail list in weight loss & fitness, my main question is :
    Is it possible to build a 10000 subscribers mailing list in one year and develop a good relashionship with them, moreover is it possible to earn 250 000 dollars in 2 years or less using my strategy ?

    Thank you

    SelfImprovementEdge

    Hi Anass Farah

    Are you already blogging in this self improvement niche and do you have any actual sales at the moment that underly your expectation of making $1000 per month?

    Almost anything is possible BUT you need plans and action to make possibility into reality.
    And to achieve your goals in 2 years would put you well in the high achiever category I think.

    It is quite possible (I hear ) to build a 10000 mailing list in 1 year.
    Have you heard of giveaway events, joint ventures, traffic exchanges and other list building strategies?
    You will need to use and measure results of tools and strategies like these.
    And develop what works and drop what doesnt.

    Are you aware of social networking and how some marketers are moving efforts more into facebook and twitter as opposed to 'pure' email marketing?
    Given your age and that some social networking sites are predominantly young you may be more in tune with these surfers than us oldies.
    Figure out how to capitalize on it.

    Maybe choose to join one or two mentoring programs in marketing areas. These can help you learn and deliver faster.
    Try to test out those with money back guarantees and with clearly stated goals they will help you achieve in a specific timeframe.

    There is a lot of hype out there but you can recognize it when you see it close. Just be sure to invest wisely in your own support resources.

    All the best in achieving your goals.

    Oh and yes like the other poster --- if you succeed in achieving your goal then there may be places that you could go that would develop your skills further than Stanford would. So be ready to raise your goal if that makes sense to you as you develop
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  • Thank you for your pragmatic reply
    Self Improvement where I know a lot of things (Because I lost my parents when I was 7 years old and I had to take control of my emotional life and my confidence), I've read a lot of books on time management, nlp, positive thinking and also some workshops in dvd (Hypnotica ultimate confidence, Hypnotica ultimate inner game) also some audio books and some anthony robbins material (example of personal power 2).
    Maybe montising a blog about self improvement is difficult.

    I just want to ask you about a thing, till I discovered the internet Marketing I've bought some products (Traffic ultimatum, cb wealth formula it's where I learned about email marketing, rapid mass traffic and google sniper)
    Do you think that those products and infos that they contain will help me achieving a part of my challenge
    Thanks again

    SelfImprovementEdge
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  • Profile picture of the author SolomonHuey
    It's unlikely but definitely possible. As some mentioned earlier, a definite plan of action will be needed... and a GOOD one at that.

    For example, if I had the IM knowledge I have today when I first started, it's realistic to say I could have hit your goal in 2 years. I know a few people who probably reached that or at least very close as well.

    Now whether you are able to discover the right money making tactics quickly enough is up to you and your abilities.

    But I'm totally with Daniel on this. It will take work, an excellent plan, and maybe a bit of luck... but your goal IS attainable.

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  • Thanks solomon, I will try to combine all the knowledge and strategies that I learned from courses I list before and i will plan for some lower earning first, then see if it's possible to reinvest to make more
    What do you guys think ?
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  • Profile picture of the author salegurus
    Hi
    Put it this way;
    If you are able to go from $0 to $250K in 2 years you don't have to worry about Stanford. The money you will make from teaching others how to make $250K in 24 months will have you set for life.
    Just a thought.
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  • Profile picture of the author jeremynet
    Hi Anass,

    Possibility is everywhere if only you believe in it.
    If you want to make $250,000 or 1 million in 2 years, that is possible.
    Have you ever head of a little kids who makes 500,000 in less than 2 yrs? OK, lets be frank.

    Your goal is $250,000 in 2 yrs, then drill down to $125,000 per year.
    How much work you need to do for each day to achieve certain results?

    Plan a solid marketing plan, set your goals by days, weeks, months and years.
    Tweak your marketing plan every week if you fail to make 200 sales? 100 sales?

    I'm in Internet Marketing for 2 years but still didn't achieve my goal yet.
    At least I fire my boss 2 years ago

    Something you have to believe in yourself, don't listen to bad words, bad news or even discouragement.
    Sorry, I'm not native speaking English but I hope you can understand it.

    *If you are not growing, you are naturally dying*

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  • Thanks to you Jeremy
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    • Profile picture of the author ripsnorta2
      You've picked a hard goal, but you won't know if you can do it unless you try.

      I recently saw an interview of a fellow who in six years took a hip-hop clothing label from his living room to a 350+ million dollar a year company. What got him there was simple determination. He didn't even necessarily know what he was doing when he started out, he just went for it.

      Another, fairly inspirational book to read is the autobiography of Richard Branson called Losing My Virginity which is the story of the Virgin group of companies. Started around 1970, by the early 90's Branson had a personal worth of over 3 billion (pounds or dollars I'm not sure.)

      If you have a goal of $250K over the next two years, what you need to do is to sit down and work out what you'll need to acheive to get there.

      Then do it.

      If you do that, you might not make the goal, but you'll make a hell of a lot more than the guy who sets a $25K goal.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sanjay89
    Yes you can definitely do it if you work hard. But an email klist of 10000 wont be enough to reach that goal. You need a bigger more targeted list . All the best of luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Luke McCormack
    Well done for having a goal. Now is the time to break that goal down into manageable chunks.

    Break your niches down. What are the affiliate commissions and how many will you need a day to make your goal. Will you develop your own product. What are the search volumes for your keywords. Will they bring enough traffic to convert to buyers. How ill you attack traffic: SEO or paid.

    Best of luck

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  • Think for your help guys, I will have to make 350 dollars per day to reach my goal in 24 months. If a sell a product with 50 dollars in commission I will have to do 6 sales per day. What do you think ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
      Originally Posted by selfimprovementedge View Post

      Think for your help guys, I will have to make 350 dollars per day to reach my goal in 24 months. If a sell a product with 50 dollars in commission I will have to do 6 sales per day. What do you think ?

      make it easier still - here's how: in the self-improvement niche there are high ticket items. See if you can find a product that will give you 3 figures commissions so that you only have to sell one or 2 a day to reach your goal.
      then find the target market with deeper pockets who would be more likely to spend the $$ on these higher-priced items.

      I think it is totally possible for you to reach your goal. You have ambition, you have determination, and a good positive attitude. I wouldn't be surprised if you reach your goal even sooner.

      I wish you all the best success in the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Wright
    Hi,

    I've never done that, however, It's because I didn't want it bad enough.

    If you break it down it is only selling 19 eBooks for $19 a day for two years.

    Now, I know I could set down right now, type out a new eBook and sell 19 of them in a day. You could too. Rinse and repeat.

    After a while synergy kicks in and links in all your ebooks leading to links to other products would cause exponential growth in your income.

    What I just described would mean that for quite a while you would have to work every day until your head felt like it was full of cotton and your fingers hurt from typing.

    The burning desire to make $250,000 in two years could inspire you to work hard enough to do it.

    As I said, personally I've just never been that motivated.

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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
    Hi Anass,

    First off, you can definitely make that goal if you are willing to work hard enough, learn enough, and fail enough. (Failure = Learning in Action)

    Second, Why is your goal $250,000 in 2 years?
    You are going to Standford for a minimum of 4 years at approximately $50,000/year. This mean you need to earn $75,000 in two years, and have built a business which will profit you over $50,000 year for each of the following years. ($75,000 = Tuition, Visa Fees, Travel Costs, etc.)

    Third, Go ask this same question in the CPA section of the forum, specifically ask for the opinion of Kenster, Mike Morgan, and Williamrs.

    Fourth, Search out Ryan Moran online. Ryan created a six figure per year business while he was going to college full time. You need to know him.

    Fifth, Hunt down Travis Sago through Bum Marketing Method - Free Traffic Tips and Watch Us Put Clickbank Checks In Mom's Mailbox (From Start To Finish) and take a quick look through his material. His methods will help you start creating a business and allow you to start building money for reinvesting in your business.

    Sixth, Build relationships, not sales. Build a list of email subscribers you can sell to time and time again. You can use Aweber, Getresponse, or Imnicamail as good example of quality autoresponders.

    Seventh, Read these threads on the forum:


    http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-netwo...hy-worked.html

    http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-netwo...-i-basics.html

    http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-netwo...bers-game.html

    http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-netwo...ase-study.html

    Those threads should get you fired up with ideas.

    Eight, Follow these people on the forum (Some of my personal favorites)

    Kenster
    Mike Morgan
    Steven Wagenheim
    Zeus66 - John Schwartz
    Alexa Smith
    Williamrs
    TimG
    Daniel Brock - (I have not followed Daniel, but due to his responses I think you should watch him.)

    There are many more, but those should be enough to give you some great advice, and keep you on track.

    Nine, Quit reading my post and go take some action.

    Ten, You're still here? Go on, take action, I mean it.... Right Now!
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  • Profile picture of the author ckbank
    It is possible to make that much money, but you will have to work very hard. You need to have a website with a good design and originality. You probably have to post 3 or 4 times a day for 2 years, then you will start making money. In total, it will probably take 4 years.
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  • Profile picture of the author designerjack
    If anyone tells you that you can't, they are crazy...
    Of course you can, as there are other people making that kind of money and more.

    You are first going to have to find a great teaching with no fluff that tells you how to become profitable.
    Once you have that in place, and have made your mistakes along the way then dedicate yourself to hard work, self belief, persistence and don't give up...
    I wish you all the best...
    Go get em....
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    • Profile picture of the author Raz IM
      Hi Anass,

      I'm going to agree with others that you can achieve it but it will require a lot of work and a concrete plan with daily constant action.

      Anything is possible if you put your mind to it so just go for it. Even if you don't achieve your goal, you will probably pick up a lot of valuable skills and experience doing it.
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  • @KansasDragon Thanks a lot for the valuable information
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  • In IM I bought some courses (example: traffic ultimatum by george brown, rapid mass traffic, cb wealth formula by saj p and anik singal, and the google sniper by george brown )
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  • I want to focus on something that is really important about myself and my situation. The different product in IM I have were bought by family members outside of my country.
    This is the problem. I live in morocco, a country in north of africa were it's practicly impossible for normal people to do online paymenet because of a currency change policy. The governement doesn't like the fact that strong currency such dollar or euro can live the country.
    This creates a big problem for me because I can't pay autoresponder services such us aweber or do ppc.
    Actually I'm using mailchimp free autoresponder service ( max of 500 subsciber).
    To be able to pay online, I should earn some money, then open a bank account who will be filled with currency, that's the only solution that I have.
    This is why I can't invest money in ppc or paid autoresponders right now
    Any suggestions ?
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  • Anthony robbins have some affiliate programs and I think it's a 3 figures commission
    Thank you Karen, you're motivating me
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  • Profile picture of the author gskesavan
    Firstly, ITS POSSIBLE! Anything is possible. Most people wont agree because they couldn't achieve it. But its all in you. Go for it. Even if you dont end up with 250000, you will go till 100000, which is a platform for achieving 250k next time. Always aim high.

    Dont stick to 1 type of marketing. Article marketing is the most basic and probably more most effective way of building links. Use PPC to hike revenue and add CPA for doubling your revenue.

    Go for site flipping too. It's a great investment always. When you know when to sell your niche site, you are going to end up making over 50k in that 1 site itself.

    I wish you for your success.
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  • gskesavan thank you for your help
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  • You mean basics of marketing ?
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Originally Posted by selfimprovementedge View Post

    ... is it possible to earn 250 000 dollars in 2 years or less using my strategy ?
    Is it possible? Absolutely!

    Is it likely? Nope.

    But don't let that stop you. If we only aim for targets we know we can hit, we're not aiming high enough. Only by aiming at targets beyond our reach, can we find how far our reach truly extends.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    My response to the OP?

    $250,000 IS doable! George makes it sound SO easy, but it isn't QUITE that easy! If it were, NOBODY would be starving. Then again, if it were, EVERYONE would be starving because who would even stock a grocery store? The TRICK is to hit the RIGHT demographic with something enticing enough and often enough to get them to BUY!

    BTW what could YOU teach from self improvement, using personal experience to an audience that could use it? Almost NOTHING! If you are talking about memory, weight, muscle, finance, habits, FORGET IT! Oh sure, you may THINK you know, but you are at a time when you are given the BEST opportunity in ALL those areas. I'm almost 50, and I certainly remember how it was. Let me clue you in! About 20,25,30,40,etc..., give or take a few years, there will be things that make various aspects of your life harder. You simply haven't been there yet. And will someone under 21 buy your books? Maybe not!

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author forfun_cash
    250 000 in 2 years? you gotta focus and focus then. At some part of your endeavor, you will meet unethical so called 'gurus' that try to help you and if you can ward off that, you should be safe.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rinz
    1. Try youtube video marketing to promote affiliate products.
    2. Try to find scholarship info from your goverment or any parties.
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  • Then wich niche to focus on if no one will listen to me in self improvement niche ?
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  • BTW self improvement niche is what I like, It's what I've found interesting it's what makes me special compared to others. I know many young people who are less that 24 years and doing well in this niche, moreover people are listening to them
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  • Profile picture of the author humbledmarket
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    As many have said it's possible but probably not going to be very easy. Many enter the internet marketing or online make money market thinking it'll be a breeze with easy money rolling down into their wallet.

    For many they are terribly wrong. It takes a lot of determination, hard work, and planning to be able to make a success with internet marketing. Not to discourage you but just to remind you that you NEED to work hard.

    It's motivating to see someone so deterimined to make it so I wish you all the best.

    Personally with about almost 2 years in im. 1 year mostly studying and 1 year experimenting I've yet to make 100k. But my greatest struggle was my lack of motivation and my procrastination.

    I know many people struggle with procrastination and thus from that struggle with a lack of motivation from not seeing results so what I want to advise you is not to get in that cycle or you probably won't be making your goal anytime soon.

    Just want you to know that your goal is totally possible though but it is also very likely people won't make it. If you don't reach it. Don't brood over it but think of what you have accomplish and what you can work on and reevaluate your situation.

    Sincerely,
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  • Profile picture of the author Darunner14
    Hello

    As I read these posts, I think that some of these ppl are on the right path. I agree aim for the heavens because it is possible with hard work. But lets make your job a little simpler. I think that your goal is a little vague. Let's make it a little smaller, well essentially it will be the same. In order to make your long term goal of 250,000 in 2 years, then your short term goal is to reach $10,417 every month! Look at this way! Now what would you have to do in order to make 10,417 dollars every month? That's a ton of blogging! Wishing you the Best!
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  • So just to say something, before i discovered the IM thing, I do 3 years of xhtml/css/php, by the way I wanted to start a site from scratch, to do everything myself ( such us programming a whole forum when there si vbulleting) and this make me lost a lot of time.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
      Originally Posted by selfimprovementedge View Post

      So just to say something, before i discovered the IM thing, I do 3 years of xhtml/css/php, by the way I wanted to start a site from scratch, to do everything myself ( such us programming a whole forum when there si vbulleting) and this make me lost a lot of time.
      Bingo.

      I did the same thing when I got started. Learned the whole kittens caboodle (can't believe I said that). PHP, HTML, CSS, Linux, Server administration, the whole nine yards. While some of that stuff came in handy (the ability to edit html and css on my own), that other stuff I have done hardly anything with - not enough for it to warrant spending 2-3 years of my time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ruka
    If you want to take home $250, 000 in cash, remember you will have to earn quite a bit more than this to pay for taxes ...
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  • Profile picture of the author Dean Jackson
    YOU GUYS ARE BEING DOWNERS!

    OK, let's put it this way.

    It IS possible... However, it's unlikely you'll get there by promoting other peoples products.

    It's about leverage.

    When you start getting money from your little affiliate products, start putting it towards creating your own products and websites, drive traffic (or get others to do it) and start list building.

    That will get you way further than figuring out all the little SEO details and scratching in the dirt trying to figure out how to do it.

    I still am working towards a big goal myself, but for it to pan out properly takes a lot of preparation.

    P.S. Don't buy any program that promise huge incomes in short times. It doesn't happen like that.

    - Dean

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  • Thanks guys for your help
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  • Profile picture of the author jborjaperez
    Selfimprovementedge,

    Don't let anyone tell you you cannot do it.. Use those words to push you to prove them wrong.. And even if you do not make $250,000, if you worked your ass off like that goal is your only option, Either you'll hit $250,000 or make a lot of money anyways..

    The problem with most is not that they aim to HIGH and MISS... It's that they aim to LOW and HIT...

    Make 250K.. DO IT..

    But of course you will need a plan of action and the right resources... Like most others mentioned..

    But in my opinion, the most important thing in this game is mentality.
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    • Originally Posted by jborjaperez View Post

      The problem with most is not that they aim to HIGH and MISS... It's that they aim to LOW and HIT...
      I've heard this somewhere.... Oh the secret of the millionaire mind by Harv Eker
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