Top UK Marketers/Gurus?

by Brian Wynn 81 replies
Hi Guys,

We hear a lot about the top US Marketers but I would love see who people think the top UK guys are.

Any thoughts?
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  • Profile picture of the author carik42
    The top marketer tag would probably be open for debate on this one, but Chris Mcneeney's from the UK (Adwords Miracle, APX, etc)

    He certainly earned a few quid!
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  • Profile picture of the author tomw
    Dan Raine
    Neil Shearing
    Chris Garrett

    are also worth a mention.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
      Originally Posted by tomw View Post

      Dan Raine
      Neil Shearing
      Chris Garrett

      are also worth a mention.
      Thanks Tom...I always forget Neil Shearing's surname he's just part of Neil Strafford. [:I]

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    Ebay and resale rights- one of my favourites is John Thornhill
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  • Profile picture of the author 1stn4most
    Michael Cheney has been an awesome coach and he is a millionaire from his free organic marketing systems
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
      Originally Posted by 1stn4most View Post

      Michael Cheney has been an awesome coach and he is a millionaire from his free organic marketing systems
      Doesn't Michael live in the wilds of Scotland now?

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      • Profile picture of the author Kyle Tully
        Drayton Bird is a legend in direct mail.
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        • Profile picture of the author pearsonbrown
          "Thanks Tom...I always forget Neil Shearing's surname he's just part of Neil Strafford. [:I]"

          Neil Shearing has nothing at all to do with Neil Stafford and is not one of the 'two Neils'.

          Neil Shearing is someone who has made a good living online since the last century but keeps a very low profile. His blog at Neil Shearing’s Internet Marketing Strategies is well worth reading.


          Another Brit with a similar profile to Neil Sh is Dr Andy, though he is based in the Canary Islands. I've probably learnt more from his newsletter than from any other single source.


          Bob Puddy seems to have disappeared from here, though at one point he had as many posts as John Taylor.

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        • Profile picture of the author tomw
          Originally Posted by Kyle Tully View Post

          Drayton Bird is a legend in direct mail.
          I don't really associate him with IM. You're right he is a legend. He's also a great guy and a marketing genius. I've worked with him many times in the past and with DBA, as well as seem him speak at the IDM, CIM and through EADIM.

          Everyone could benefit from studying his ideas and he has a lot of free resources on the DBA website.

          Free direct marketing library and DM answers from Drayton Bird | draytonbird.com

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          • Profile picture of the author Kyle Tully
            Originally Posted by tomw View Post

            I don't really associate him with IM.
            Yes but the question was about "top marketers", he never mentioned IM.

            Although I reckon Drayton is probably responsible for more money made online than many of the IM "gurus" above
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            • Profile picture of the author tomw
              Originally Posted by Kyle Tully View Post

              Yes but the question was about "top marketers", he never mentioned IM.

              Although I reckon Drayton is probably responsible for more money made online than many of the IM "gurus" above
              Good point. I wasn't trying to be contrary. Its just that all of the responses where IM guys.

              There are too many great UK "top marketers" to mention!

              UK IMers with guru status seem pretty thin on the ground.

              I wonder why?

              In terms of advertising and marketing our agencies are regarded as the most creative, strategic and innovative in the world.

              Maybe we need to set up a UK based mastermind group so that we can market each others stuff and convince the world that we are the best group of marketers that have ever lived...just like Kern, Pagan, Fallon, Jenkins, Filsaime, Silver, Carlton and the rest of their mastermind group.

              I'm sure Drayton would pitch in.



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              • Profile picture of the author Ross Kenny
                Originally Posted by tomw View Post

                Good point. I wasn't trying to be contrary. Its just that all of the responses where IM guys.

                There are too many great UK "top marketers" to mention!

                UK IMers with guru status seem pretty thin on the ground.

                I wonder why?

                In terms of advertising and marketing our agencies are regarded as the most creative, strategic and innovative in the world.

                Maybe we need to set up a UK based mastermind group so that we can market each others stuff and convince the world that we are the best group of marketers that have ever lived...just like Kern, Pagan, Fallon, Jenkins, Filsaime, Silver, Carlton and the rest of their mastermind group.

                I'm sure Drayton would pitch in.



                Thomas
                I agree
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              • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
                I can't believe nobody's mentioned Andrew Reynolds yet. He's probably made more than most of the above marketers combined.

                His MO is typically to drive prospects via a letter or printed postcard to a website, where a carefully crafted, long-form sales page leads to a very expensive DVD set or live seminar event.

                His live events have featured such marketers as: Ted Nicholas, Bill Myers, Derek Gehl and Stephen Pierce.


                Frank


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                Originally Posted by tomw View Post

                Maybe we need to set up a UK based mastermind group so that we can market each others stuff and convince the world that we are the best group of marketers that have ever lived...just like Kern, Pagan, Fallon, Jenkins, Filsaime, Silver, Carlton and the rest of their mastermind group.
                Great idea!
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                • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
                  Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

                  I can't believe nobody's mentioned Andrew Reynolds yet. He's probably made more than most of the above marketers combined.

                  His MO is typically to drive prospects via a letter or printed postcard to a website, where a carefully crafted, long-form sales page leads to a very expensive DVD set or live seminar event.

                  His live events have featured such marketers as: Ted Nicholas, Bill Myers, Derek Gehl and Stephen Pierce.


                  Frank


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                  Great idea!
                  Yes Frank, Andrew is great but I'd call him more a direct marketeer than a total IM'er. Certainly up there though along with his former trainees Tim Lowe, Nick James. You can also add Pat Adams, John Lisgo, David Anderson and the daddy of offline publishing John Gommes.

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                  • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
                    Originally Posted by richt1971 View Post

                    Yes Frank, Andrew is great but I'd call him more a direct marketeer than a total IM'er. Certainly up there though along with his former trainees Tim Lowe, Nick James. You can also add Pat Adams, John Lisgo, David Anderson and the daddy of offline publishing John Gommes.

                    Rich
                    You're right, Rich, although his products nearly all contain IM-related material.

                    Actually, I expect that many of the current IM gurus are going to get more involved in direct marketing over the next year or so.

                    They've been making concerted efforts recently to grab the postal addresses (and even telephone numbers) of their customers and prospects and there's been the spate of monthly printed newsletters/magazines created.

                    With increasing email deliverability problems, I can only see this trend growing.


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        Originally Posted by richt1971 View Post

        Doesn't Michael live in the wilds of Scotland now?

        Rich
        Michael Cheney does indeed live in the "wilds" of Scotland...and Scotland is part of the UK, so he qualifies as a Top UK Marketer.

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        • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
          Originally Posted by Scott_Thomas View Post

          Michael Cheney does indeed live in the "wilds" of Scotland...and Scotland is part of the UK, so he qualifies as a Top UK Marketer.

          Scott
          LOL...yes Scott I know Scotland is part of the UK. Just couldn't remember if that was where Michael moved to once he started being successful. Think he moved closer to John Taylor!! []


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      • Profile picture of the author iainvw
        Originally Posted by Richard Tunnah View Post

        Doesn't Michael live in the wilds of Scotland now?
        I believe Michael Cheney is based in Aberdeen, which is possibly not the wildest part of Scotland.

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        • Profile picture of the author naonline
          Originally Posted by iainvw View Post

          I believe Michael Cheney is based in Aberdeen, which is possibly not the wildest part of Scotland.

          Iain
          Are you sure?? Take a walk along Aberdeen beach in January and tell me it's not wild

          Nick (formerly of Aberdeen, now in calm Perth)

          PS sorry for going off topic, but it's not everyday my home town gets a mention on the WF!
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  • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
    And nobody has mentioned..

    Michael Green
    Simon Hodgkinson

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    • Profile picture of the author Andy Hart
      andrew fox is Irish not sure which part so I guess its still classed as UK
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      • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
        Originally Posted by honestandy View Post

        andrew fox is Irish not sure which part so I guess its still classed as UK
        Northern Ireland is part of the UK (depending on what religion you are, but that's a whole other story :rolleyes
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        • Profile picture of the author Tina Tiano
          Yes Michael Cheney lives in Scotland. I am in his coaching program right now!
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          • Profile picture of the author Ian Jackson
            No posts from Warriors vouching for any degree of success from of these big names though...

            With the potential exception of Tina; how are you getting on?
            Originally Posted by Tina Tiano View Post

            Yes Michael Cheney lives in Scotland. I am in his coaching program right now!
            Pat Adams was mentioned earlier; I've had four or five direct mailings from him, during the last couiple of years, each telling me he's now "retiring", and I can have his business for $a few thousand.


            There's also David Anderson, another protege of Andrew Reynold's, I believe; he sends me a flyer every couple of months.
            Also, over the last couple of years, I 've had four or five direct mailings form Pat Adams, each telling me he's now retiring, and i can have his busibess for $a few thousand.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    The OP asked for the "Top UK Marketers / Gurus", I didn't see him ask only for Internet Marketers.

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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

      The OP asked for the "Top UK Marketers / Gurus", I didn't see him ask only for Internet Marketers.

      RoD
      True, but in the absence of any follow-up post from the OP, we're assuming he meant Internet Marketers.

      Otherwise, you'd have to include people like Richard Branson, Felix Dennis etc.



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  • Profile picture of the author Brian Wynn
    Thanks for all the replies guys - and yes I meant INTERNET Marketers but also good to know who the offline guys are too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Briffa
    Andrew Reynold is one of the biggest marketers in UK. Hes done 30 million is sales so far i think, last i heard anyway.

    He does offline/online direct marketing. Another is Tim Lowe & Nick james.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnng
    Originally Posted by Brian Wynn View Post

    Hi Guys,

    We hear a lot about the top US Marketers but I would love see who people think the top UK guys are.

    Any thoughts?
    Michael Cheney and Alex Toads.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas
    Originally Posted by John Taylor View Post

    And nobody has mentioned..

    Michael Green
    Is he still an MP?

    Originally Posted by honestandy View Post

    andrew fox is Irish not sure which part so I guess its still classed as UK
    Only if he's north of the border! (That's a touchy subject! )

    Incidentally, I believe Andrew is from Belfast... so he is in the U.K.

    Tommy (who isn't).
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  • Profile picture of the author Janet Sawyer
    And just throwing another name into the "mix"

    Stuart Goldsmith...?
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
      Originally Posted by Janet Sawyer View Post

      And just throwing another name into the "mix"

      Stuart Goldsmith...?
      Didn't Stuart retire Janet? Or at least he disappeared from public eye! I know he said many years ago he was retiring after making multiples of 7 figures and unlike some that say that appears to have done so although he may be using a 'different' name or involved in something away from direct mail now.

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    Neil Shearing and Chris Cardell are the only ones I've had experience with, but they're both very, very good.
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  • Once had a nasty argument with Cardell. Shudder. Andrew Reynolds is nice as is Steven Venn.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
      Originally Posted by Steve Peters View Post

      Once had a nasty argument with Cardell. Shudder. Andrew Reynolds is nice as is Steven Venn.
      Agree Steve from my 2 brief conversations with Andrew he seemed a pretty cool level headed guy.
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  • Profile picture of the author philwiley
    BTW, I'd like to add Kieron Donoghue, from up Newcastle way, to the mix. He's got to be the highest, or one of the highest, earning affiliates in the UK. 2 years ago he said he was spending US$10,000 a day on Adwords.

    I can't post live links here because, even though I've been here years, I haven't made enough posts to allow me to put a link, but here are some of Kieron's sites.

    His main affiliate one is a voucher site at ukoffer com , another is bingo org uk and another is etoys co uk He's got at least 20 more.

    You can read more about him, and find links to interviews with him, on his affiliate blog at here org uk/about-kieron

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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
      HI Phil,
      Wow! Interesting. I'm sure I saw something about Keiron ages ago and said he was doing very well but didn't mention figures so no idea it was THAT well! Great stuff. Us on the North East UK must hold our own!!! :-)

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      Originally Posted by philwiley View Post

      BTW, I'd like to add Kieron Donoghue, from up Newcastle way, to the mix. He's got to be the highest, or one of the highest, earning affiliates in the UK. 2 years ago he said he was spending US$10,000 a day on Adwords.

      I can't post live links here because, even though I've been here years, I haven't made enough posts to allow me to put a link, but here are some of Kieron's sites.

      His main affiliate one is a voucher site at ukoffer com , another is bingo org uk and another is etoys co uk He's got at least 20 more.

      You can read more about him, and find links to interviews with him, on his affiliate blog at here org uk/about-kieron

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  • Profile picture of the author CurtisN
    Adeel Chowdhry.

    Can't believe nobody mentioned Adeel. He may not be a "guru", but when he talks, I usually listen. He's one of the few marketers whose emails I read every single time, even if I know exactly what's in it.

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    Bugger I've been boozing with most of those - never knew they were gurus?

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  • Richard, I think Andrew takes a lot of stick because of the EC, but it certainly is a bold creation.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
      Originally Posted by Steve Peters View Post

      Richard, I think Andrew takes a lot of stick because of the EC, but it certainly is a bold creation.
      Yes. I guess he's up there to be shot at like every successful person seems to be certainly in the UK. As I say I only have had brief contact via Nick James TBH.
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      • Profile picture of the author drmani
        On MY list of top folks in the Internet marketing/blogging niche (most I've met):

        Harvey Segal
        Martin Avis
        Kim Standerline
        Michael Green
        Pearson Brown
        Gary Vurnum
        Peter Woodhead
        Kevin Brown
        Lee McIntyre
        Andy Henry
        Paul Smithson
        Neil Shearing
        Robert Puddy
        William Charlwood

        (and there are no doubt some I've forgotten to include - sorry)

        @Phil Wiley, what a pleasant surprise to see you here on the forum!

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        • Profile picture of the author Martin Avis
          How flattering to be on a list of such luminaries!

          While I'm very happy to be on a list of top Internet marketers, the truth is that the only place I'm really a 'top' marketer is in my own home. And given that nobody else in my family shows the slightest interest, that's not so hard to achieve!

          I think that if you look at Dr. Mani's list closely, you'll certainly see a dozen people who are serious about their Internet marketing, and who practice what they preach. You'll also find people who are happy to share their knowledge.

          I'm very pleased to be able to call everyone on Mani's list a friend, and I know that not one of us would be comfortable with being labelled 'gurus'. (Apart from Harvey, of course, but then he does like people to kneel and kiss his hand when we meet - or maybe that's just me!)

          Such lists are, inevitably, incomplete. I could add at least another dozen people and an awful lot more who don't like to have their real names used (but are often more successful than the rest of us put together!)

          All I can say is that internet marketing is alive and well here in the UK and is populated with some really clever, generous, friendly, un-guru-ish (and in Kim's case, beautiful) people.

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          • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
            Hmm, I'm surprised no one mentioned Neil Morgan, (Or does he just get on with it quietly lol)

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            • Profile picture of the author Neil Morgan
              The name seems familiar Kim but I don't think he sells much
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              • Profile picture of the author drmani
                Neil Morgan said:

                "It's interesting how some call people gurus or "top marketers"
                that others have never heard of, yet some biggish (to me, that is)
                names don't appear at all."
                Martin.Avis said:

                "While I'm very happy to be on a list of top Internet marketers,
                the truth is that the only place I'm really a 'top' marketer is
                in my own home. And given that nobody else in my family shows
                the slightest interest, that's not so hard to achieve!"

                I'm reading "TROUT ON STRATEGY" by Jack Trout. Love the tagline:

                "If you don't have the right strategy, YOU'RE TOAST!"

                A quote:

                - - -

                "DON'T BE AFRAID TO BRAG

                ... we continue to come across leaders who don't want to talk
                about their leadership. Their response abut avoiding this claim
                to what is rightfully theirs is the same: "We don't want to brag."

                Well, being a leader who doesn't brag is the best thing that
                can happen to your competition. When you've clawed
                your way to the top of the mountain, you had better plant your
                flag and take some pictures."


                - - -

                The one thing that's probably even better is to get OTHERS
                to brag about you!

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                • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
                  Originally Posted by drmani View Post

                  I'm reading "TROUT ON STRATEGY" by Jack Trout.
                  "DON'T BE AFRAID TO BRAG

                  ... we continue to come across leaders who don't want to talk
                  about their leadership. Their response abut avoiding this claim
                  to what is rightfully theirs is the same: "We don't want to brag."

                  Well, being a leader who doesn't brag is the best thing that
                  can happen to your competition. When you've clawed
                  your way to the top of the mountain, you had better plant your
                  flag and take some pictures."

                  My goodness, we couldn't do that. We are British, after all.

                  Our default position is self-deprecation and we respond to most praise with "Oh, it was nothing, really..".

                  Mind you, there is a rising cult of "Businessman As Superstar" in the UK, fuelled by TV shows such as "Dragons' Den" and "The Apprentice" so times may be changing.

                  Of course, online (where no-one can hear you scream), one has to sometimes play the chest-beating game in order to be seen as a player. But this still sits uncomfortably with most of my compatriots.

                  It can be funny observing someone you know to be a meek and mild lad offline suddenly adopt an aggressive, swaggering online persona.

                  Horses for courses etc.


                  Best,


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            • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
              Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

              Hmm, I'm surprised no one mentioned Neil Morgan, (Or does he just get on with it quietly lol)

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              We were all quietly avoiding him Kim until you brought him up!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author daddyg
    Would have to second Frank Haywood, he creates some excellent software products and his blog is worth checking out.
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    • Profile picture of the author Neil Morgan
      It's interesting how some call people gurus or "top marketers" that others have never heard of, yet some biggish (to me, that is) names don't appear at all.

      Maybe that's because it's a relative thing.

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        Would Andrew Reynolds be considered a internet marketing guru or not?
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  • Roderick, his products and initial wealth came from Ebay - he ended up having a fullfilment house essentially for his own products. Impressive in my book. However, he has jsut pushed ahead with this one thing really, he isnt into any of the normal IM stuff so I think I would call him an Internet Entreprenuer rather than IMer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Success2020
    I don't have the ideals of any top UK Marketers... I guess someone should mention my name here too.... lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Roy Carter
    Re a previous post...

    Mark Vurnum and Mark Anastasi are both buddies of mine and they live here in Cyprus with me...well, not WITH me but I do see them quite regularly. Both are great guys.

    Mark Vurnum's brother Gary (nice guy) was mentioned by Dr. Mani and Gary lives in the UK.

    I was at a 3 day mastermind group that Mark Vurnum put on at a villa down the road from me and it was some of the most fascinating idea sharing days I've spent in a long while.

    Phil - Good to see you on here mate. You should stop by more often.

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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
      Originally Posted by Roy Carter View Post

      Re a previous post...

      Mark Vurnum and Mark Anastasi are both buddies of mine and they live here in Cyprus with me...well, not WITH me but I do see them quite regularly. Both are great guys.

      Mark Vurnum's brother Gary (nice guy) was mentioned by Dr. Mani and Gary lives in the UK.

      I was at a 3 day mastermind group that Mark Vurnum put on at a villa down the road from me and it was some of the most fascinating idea sharing days I've spent in a long while.

      Phil - Good to see you on here mate. You should stop by more often.

      Roy
      Interesting Roy. I am on both Mark's lists. I've only met Mark Anastasi though many years ago at a seminar I believe he was partly responsible for setting up. From my brief chat he came across as a chilled guy.He seems to have grown into a mega hitter (think he suggested he would do more that $7 million Euro's this year in his recent mailer!) Never sure if he classes himself as UK or Greek?
      I believe Mark Vurnum is a fellow warrior and posted briefly at the beginning of last year.
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      • Profile picture of the author Brian Wynn
        Wow - this has really become a great thread - thanks for all the contribs!

        I'm also based in London. Please let me know if there are any lunches, networking opps going on - would love to come along.

        Mark Anastasi is a good friend of mine - we actually used to work together before IM and I'd like to think there's a part of him which is British, the part that complains about the weather!
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  • Profile picture of the author edman
    Chris cardell is also worth mentioning, I think he is more popular with the UK folks
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    Does anyone know if there are any U.K. internet marketing seminars, events or conferences that we could go to> There seems to be loads going on all the time in the U.S.!
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  • Profile picture of the author KevinBrown
    What a great thread!

    And not just because Dr Mani voted for me above!

    In the UK, we do need to become more "brag-worthy". This is a big and growing, internet market.

    And as for seminars etc, the Kent mastermind lunch meets again next Wednesday. Including a couple of the names mentioned above...

    So do come along, if you are in the area. PM for details.

    All the best
    Kevin
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  • Profile picture of the author Amitywill
    Trust me the 'Gurus' listed in this thread are poor compared to what the real top
    internet marketers in the US and UK are making.I know one internet marketer in the insurance
    market clearing almost $100 million a year and I know there are tons of other
    people out there making huge amounts of money.

    The million or so these 'Gurus' make from their product launches every
    year is pocket change compared to what the real top internet marketers are
    making.

    Will
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  • Profile picture of the author AndyM121
    The few UK marketers that I would consider as top folks were:

    Tony Shepherd and Sara Brown
    Simon Hodgkinson

    and because I was on his coaching program and got my business started...

    Alex Jeffreys

    Just my tuppence worth.

    Andy
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  • Profile picture of the author yoyo
    theres this guy sohail khan, mainly doing JVs, hes usaly showing off his bald head and supercars in alot of pictures.
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  • Profile picture of the author ASUService
    Funny how old threads can be resurrected, huh?

    I guess I need clarification ... is the criteria simply how much money they make/have made or what contributions they have made to the world and/or community? IMHO it should be the latter.

    There a name or two mentioned that I wouldn't take the time to walk across the street to spit on them if they were on fire because they do little to nothing after the sale in regards to support and/or all you get from them is sales pitches.

    Rest assured that I understand we are all here to make a living but I find it funny how many “Guru’s” preach about establishing relationships then fall on their face when it comes to doing that themselves.

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  • Profile picture of the author iainliddle
    Im sure george brown and stuart ross are part of the top marketers in the uk too.
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