how hard is it to break into IM niche?

by Landis
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I was thinking of starting in IM niche. My plan would be to make a squeeze page with a nice lead magnet..then spend my budget (about 3k) into JVs for solo ads to build up a list. I would be split testing the squeeze page in between solo ads to optimize it for the highest optin rate. The only thing is..is it a good niche to be a part of? I have extensive knowledge in SEO so I feel like I would be able to give good "value" whilst periodically selling other IM products. Any insights?
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  • Profile picture of the author Raja Kamil
    Come out with something unique and most important......working !

    Just wonder, you know IM niche is wide, then what niche (specific) you are into?
    Is it just SEO?
    If you are thinking about SEO, so many "gurus" have talking about it forever,
    to be unique, maybe you can come out with the solution on how to get #1 spot for Bing, for example.

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  • Profile picture of the author Big Al
    Yes it's a good niche ... competitive but good.

    Ask anyone about the hottest niches and they'll probably call come back and say - make money online, health and relationships.

    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Landis
    are there any downside to building a list solely from solo ads? I personally love IM so this is one niche I would love to break into.
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  • Profile picture of the author Landis
    no one has done it this way specifically?
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    The only problem with solo ads is that you'll build a list from other marketers' lists. Your messages might get a bit lost in the mix. I mean, yes, solo ads can add subscribers pretty fast, if you choose well. But the make-up of your list will include some people who get buried by marketing emails.

    So you might lose out on quality to get more quantity.

    I think if I had $3K to spend, I'd put a considerable amount of it into having good articles written. I'd submit them to EZA (primarily) for the traffic to my squeeze page. But you need to have them written in a certain way to maximize the click-through rate and to pre-sell your readers. That way, you get more traffic AND it's hungry traffic. That = a higher opt-in conversion rate and really good, targeted, hungry list members.

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author keadams26
    If you are going to spend your budget on ads to get leads, why not contact some of these "gurus" and see if you can broker a deal with them to pay them to send emails (composed by you of course) out to their list, sending them a link to your own opt-in list. Would be highly targeted. Just a suggestion.
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    • Profile picture of the author Landis
      Originally Posted by keadams26 View Post

      If you are going to spend your budget on ads to get leads, why not contact some of these "gurus" and see if you can broker a deal with them to pay them to send emails (composed by you of course) out to their list, sending them a link to your own opt-in list. Would be highly targeted. Just a suggestion.
      are leads from solo ads lower quality?
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  • Profile picture of the author Luke McCormack
    Zeus66 is bang on the money. Targeted and pre-qualified traffic on your list from articles beats solo ad subscribers any day of the week.

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    Nigel
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  • Profile picture of the author keadams26
    Well, I think when you do it in this way, you don't deal with having to pay for clicks from people that have no interest in your offers. Some people (fellow IMers), a lot in fact, click ads just to check out your site design and what kind of site you are developing. That is, in my opinion, a waste of money. People that are already on lists are proven to be susceptible to a good pitch and, if your email is good enough, will not hesitate to opt in to your newsletter or subscriptions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Million
    Originally Posted by carpetmuncher View Post

    I was thinking of starting in IM niche. My plan would be to make a squeeze page with a nice lead magnet..then spend my budget (about 3k) into JVs for solo ads to build up a list. I would be split testing the squeeze page in between solo ads to optimize it for the highest optin rate. The only thing is..is it a good niche to be a part of? I have extensive knowledge in SEO so I feel like I would be able to give good "value" whilst periodically selling other IM products. Any insights?
    The IM "market" is enormous... lots of niches inside, and the great part is that many of those niches are interested in the others (for example, affiliate marketers can be sold on getting into product creation with a good presell campaign... or could be pushed into CPA, list building, etc.)

    Definitely a list building niche and I like your approach so far. The only things I'd tweak is:

    A) Don't blow that 3K all at once (though I'm sure you wouldn't)... put a couple hundred leads into the funnel... wait to see what pops out a week later (see if that funnel is at least breaking even for you, or close enough where some tweaking could make it profitable.)

    B) Write out at least a couple weeks worth of emails, relationship building material, and promotions. Paid traffic can be expensive in IM, so depending on your CPC it might take two weeks or more to get a break even campaign. Once you have that going, you got a ton of leads man and it's time to throw in a little launchy of your own for a big payoff .

    Really map out your email campaign and, if you can, have a 1 week, 1 month, 3 month, 6 month, etc. plan for your list before you start paying for leads. It will most likely change as time goes on, but having that battle plan will make all the difference for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author sirtom
      The IM market is definitely worth getting into. I think your top priority though would be to compile what you know and create a product/report/series/etc that's not the same re-hashed stuff people are used to seeing.

      Since you have extensive knowledge in SEO, that shouldn't be a problem. It's really a necessity i think. There are so many people in the IM market that promote products and claim a certain income or experience level, when in fact they don't make a dime. It's always both refreshing and somewhat apparent when the person doing the promoting/instructing actually makes money or gets the desired results 'walking the walk' (what they teach).

      So in other words- create that money magnet and make it good. Also, test out various methods. Article marketing, video syndication, etc, are all awesome avenues since there's a level of pre-sell in there. With solo ads, the people aren't warmed up to you at all. There's no rapport or trust building initially, so your quality goes way down.

      But, if you can warm up those leads with articles, video, etc, then you're establishing yourself more as a thought-leader and instructer as opposed to another pusher of re-hashed content
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  • Profile picture of the author David Hooper
    First of all, love the username!

    If you've made money online and are willing to teach people how you've done it, it's not too tough to break in. The problem is that most people selling "make money" products haven't done much money-making...and if they have, it's usually because of those products.
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    • Profile picture of the author Landis
      Originally Posted by David Hooper View Post

      First of all, love the username!

      If you've made money online and are willing to teach people how you've done it, it's not too tough to break in. The problem is that most people selling "make money" products haven't done much money-making...and if they have, it's usually because of those products.
      I havent made alot of money for myself (yet) but for a few years I made my employer a very rich man. Ive broken off and started my own business using the same techniques that helped my employer and at the moment im planting seeds so that when they start growing, money will pour in ;p The only mistake my previous employer did was he didnt make a list, so he left alot of money on the table. So right now, while im working on ranking some websites, I want to buy leads via solo ads to get started with that stream.
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