Best way to gather JV Partners for a lauch?

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Hi guys just a quick question I'm pretty stuck on.

I've got a launch coming up for my own product at the end of this month, and I've been sending out emails like crazy to gather some affiliates for this launch, I contacted Mike Merz at JV Notify Pro and because of the upgrade to 2.0 he isn't taking anymore JV Requests. This leaves me very stuck, because I would like to make this launch successful as I put hours upon hours of hard work into the product, and I believe it is highly professional.

So my question is, what is the best way for a 'Nobody' in the internet marketing biz to gather high quality affiliates for my launch? and what do you guys usually do?

Thanks,
Taylor
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Fletcher
    The big players care less about the product and more about seeing a proven sales process.

    Now before anyone jumps on me for "guru bashing" let me clarify. I'm not jumping on the "gurus will promote anything for money" bandwagon my point is that there are a million good products out there and they see dozens of them every day.

    What doesn't come along very often, is a proven sales process. You need to prove that your sales copy converts. You need to prove that your refund rate is low. You need to prove that a decent percentage of people take the upsell. You need to prove your key stats such as EPC (earnings per click) with a couple of private partners.

    If you get all of these things in place, then you can basically write your own ticket. But without them you're just an also ran who doesn't stand out from all the other approaches they see every day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shaun OReilly
    Time for a reality check...

    Before contacting high quality affiliates you first need
    to make sure that your sales process converts.

    No top affiliates will want to test your launch process
    on their traffic.

    Learn to walk before you run.

    Test out your sales process on your own dime first to
    get proven conversion figures to then approach affiliates
    with.

    Earn your spurs first.

    Dedicated to your success,

    Shaun
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    • Profile picture of the author affluence.p
      Originally Posted by Shaun OReilly View Post

      Time for a reality check...

      Before contacting high quality affiliates you first need
      to make sure that your sales process converts.

      No top affiliates will want to test your launch process
      on their traffic.

      Learn to walk before you run.

      Test out your sales process on your own dime first to
      get proven conversion figures to then approach affiliates
      with.

      Earn your spurs first.

      Dedicated to your success,

      Shaun
      Could not have been said any better.

      I got the lesson the hard way very recently.

      As I noticed that my new product was getting
      a couple of really nice reviews and feedback I
      decided to give a shot at the launch, banking solely on
      leveraging the list of certain potential JV partners.

      I did that without doing anything to put my house
      in order. Without any verifiable factual prove of the
      hotness of my product.


      And what did I get? Out of almost 30 potential JV
      pals I contacted, only one responded positively, and
      even at that, he opted out before the launch.

      I sat down in desperation to think about what was
      going on, and suddenly discovered that I got everything
      wrong from the start, when I chose to build my business
      at other people's expense.
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    • Profile picture of the author Matt Morgan
      Also in addition to that, get the sales conversions, test and get some conversion rates Before contacting any JV contacts.

      If you do it the other way around and use your JV partners lists as guinea pigs to blast your offer out to and it goes wrong, then you have lost trust and creditability in that partner.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
    Have you considered that the important word
    within the term "JV Partner" is Partner?

    It amuses me when I get JV requests from folks
    who I don't know. They aren't even on my
    subscriber list and they expect me to pay attention
    to them?

    If you behave like a nobody, you'll be treated like
    one.

    Don't go after the big guys... go after your peers,
    the people who you can help. When you help people,
    when you make an effort to get to know them, when
    they recognise your name as a subscriber, blog
    commenter, customer, follower and friend... they'll
    be much more likely to see you as a somebody.

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
      Originally Posted by John Taylor View Post

      Have you considered that the important word
      within the term "JV Partner" is Partner?

      It amuses me when I get JV requests from folks
      who I don't know. They aren't even on my
      subscriber list and they expect me to pay attention
      to them?

      If you behave like a nobody, you'll be treated like
      one.

      Don't go after the big guys... go after your peers,
      the people who you can help. When you help people,
      when you make an effort to get to know them, when
      they recognise your name as a subscriber, blog
      commenter, customer, follower and friend... they'll
      be much more likely to see you as a somebody.

      John
      John has a really strong point right there.

      The connections that you make on your own are the ones most likely to help you out on your launch. Some won't, but I've noticed all the people I've helped out most always return the favor.

      John, you just did a recent launch right in July right? How'd that go for you?

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    • Profile picture of the author spennyc
      Originally Posted by Shaun OReilly View Post

      Time for a reality check...

      Before contacting high quality affiliates you first need
      to make sure that your sales process converts.

      No top affiliates will want to test your launch process
      on their traffic.

      Learn to walk before you run.

      Test out your sales process on your own dime first to
      get proven conversion figures to then approach affiliates
      with.

      Earn your spurs first.

      Dedicated to your success,

      Shaun
      Originally Posted by John Taylor View Post

      Have you considered that the important word
      within the term "JV Partner" is Partner?

      It amuses me when I get JV requests from folks
      who I don't know. They aren't even on my
      subscriber list and they expect me to pay attention
      to them?

      If you behave like a nobody, you'll be treated like
      one.

      Don't go after the big guys... go after your peers,
      the people who you can help. When you help people,
      when you make an effort to get to know them, when
      they recognise your name as a subscriber, blog
      commenter, customer, follower and friend... they'll
      be much more likely to see you as a somebody.

      John
      Well said John and Shaun
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    • Profile picture of the author mikebrooks
      Well put John! Always think first how can I help this person. If you can't help them, they may be the wrong person at the moment.

      Originally Posted by John Taylor View Post

      Have you considered that the important word
      within the term "JV Partner" is Partner?

      It amuses me when I get JV requests from folks
      who I don't know. They aren't even on my
      subscriber list and they expect me to pay attention
      to them?

      If you behave like a nobody, you'll be treated like
      one.

      Don't go after the big guys... go after your peers,
      the people who you can help. When you help people,
      when you make an effort to get to know them, when
      they recognise your name as a subscriber, blog
      commenter, customer, follower and friend... they'll
      be much more likely to see you as a somebody.

      John
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      Affiliate/JV Manager for Job Crusher
      IMPartnerPro.com

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  • Profile picture of the author theturd
    i best way is to offer the best payout and landing pages that convert
    they it isn't that hard to get a little momentum going
    people flock to product they can make money on



    Originally Posted by taylorwinfield4 View Post

    Hi guys just a quick question I'm pretty stuck on.

    I've got a launch coming up for my own product at the end of this month, and I've been sending out emails like crazy to gather some affiliates for this launch, I contacted Mike Merz at JV Notify Pro and because of the upgrade to 2.0 he isn't taking anymore JV Requests. This leaves me very stuck, because I would like to make this launch successful as I put hours upon hours of hard work into the product, and I believe it is highly professional.

    So my question is, what is the best way for a 'Nobody' in the internet marketing biz to gather high quality affiliates for my launch? and what do you guys usually do?

    Thanks,
    Taylor
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  • I would try to get JV'ed with people on your same tier. Don't go for top dogs if you're not one of them. First of all, establish a solid reputation among other guys in your same level, and then move up the ladder. It's just impossible to contact a top affiliate unless you're a known name in your niche.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tanner
        Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

        Alright, here's the deal.

        It's not an easy feat at all, and really if you are just starting out I wouldn't recommend it until you have at least a 1 and a 1/2 years experience making money online. Even more experience would be suggested.

        The reason why is because these things are mentally and emotionally draining and you'll have to go through a lot of trials and tough decisions during the process.

        I'm currently setting up a really big launch 2 months from now and you have to do A LOT of stuff. (I've been planning this thing for about 9 months now)

        Here is my assumption of your progress.

        You just finished your first product and want to do a big guru launch, no?

        One product is not good enough...

        You need upsells, and lots of them.

        My current sales funnel is this:
        • $37 front end
        • $37-47/m continuity
        • $197 upsell
        • $97 downsell
        • $97 upsell
        • $67 downsell
        The reason why you add upsells is because it will help you boost up your EPC.

        EPC is very important. If you don't know what your EPC of your product is yet, I suggest you figure that out.

        Commission amount means squat, overall customer buy means jack squat, product price point means jack squat. It's all about EPC!

        Get a proven sales page with months worth of testing.

        You also need a list.

        My list has helped me a lot with building relationships with my potential partners. What I have been doing is been emailing for them first, or cutting a deal and saying something like 'I'll mail for you now, and come time for my launch you mail for me then'.

        If one thing I could do again, I would have made my list a lot bigger before trying to get JV partners. Currently my list size is about 8500 with around 3000 buyers. I would be so much better off now if my list size was in the 30-50k size.

        You also have to count on a lot of people not coming through with their end of the bargin...especially with JV partners in the US. US JV space is dog-eat-dog.

        You need credentials and a track record

        As shallow as this sounds, proof screen shots with a lot of dollar bills on them work really well. Personally, I've done around $700,000 with my products, services, and affiliate sites. Most of that money being made in niches outside of the IM guru space.

        You need a WOW factor that shows people you are someone worth listening to, and you legitamately need to believe you have something to offer or else it will show through on your videos.

        You also need killer sales copy

        Name dropping is everything for this sales copy thing. Find the top CB products, find out who did their copywriting, and contact them.

        The fee you are looking to pay for a full out copywriting package from a top writer is anywhere between $7.5k-$15k+ 5% Gross of launch.

        You also need to prove to them that you can deliver on launch, or else they won't touch you because they make most of their money from the 5% of launch gross.

        Speaking of sales copy....

        You also need a sales video. Sales video very important. A lot of people do just screen capture.

        If you want to build your brand, you do an in person video so you have to either be really comfortable on camera (which im not), or you have to have a lot of time to do many many takes.

        So that leaves you with a chicken or the egg question.

        How do you get a copywriter to do your stuff if you don't have any JV partners, and how do you get JV partners on board if you don't have a good copywriter who you can name drop?

        Well to answer that, you need an affiliate manager, as well as your own set of connections you have made over the months-years working in your niche.

        Use your set of connects as your base affiliates to temp others to come on board. Once they start seeing people on board, a lot of other people will join.

        From there once you have your base list of affiliates, you get in contact with an affiliate manager who will help you with that.

        Affiliate Managers are expensive and it's very tough to find a good one. I got really lucky.

        Look to pay anywhere from $3k + 5% to $10K + 5%.

        You will also need to attend events where popular affiliates hang out. You need to talk to them and make friends. It's actually a lot of fun because a lot of these people have the same sort of personality as you so it's very easy to connect with a lot of them. I met some people I can legitamately call friends at these events.

        You also need to do a pre-launch and post launch prize to 'seal the deal' with your JV partners so that they will mail for you.

        You should have all your pre-launch prize money in bank so you don't piss anyone off. Start low with like a $2-3k pre-launch prize purse.

        All in all, so far with 2 months to go I have invested $30,000 in my launch and it still looks like I may have to spend a tad bit more to tie up some loose ends.

        I'm warning you right now....there's a reason why not many people do big launches.

        Because it's REALLY hard to do - really nerve racking, hard to get things in line, hard to figure out where you need to start, and very hard to tie everything together. You also need to have a lot of knowledge & experience with launches - in particular the problems that can go wrong during launch.

        Personally, I've done 5 or 6 internal launches as practice for my big launch, so I know all the mechanisms behind building up hype and sealing the sale.

        You need to know how to put your sites and stuff on cloud so they can withstand the huge burst of traffic during launch....

        The list goes on and on and on....I'm sure I could sit here for another 2 hours writing up things that need to be done.
        Read This Post again guys and gals, Daniel nailed it. While big product launches are all the rage, they are an enormous amount of work and typically require a substantial up front investment.

        It is for that reason that I very rarely go all in for a big product launch and instead set up 90% of my products to be sold through a much smaller and sustainable perpetual product launch which gives me many of the same benefits of a big launch without all the headache.

        I create at least one new product a month and as of now I've released 14 new products this year alone and only 1 of those 14 products will be built up into a live launch and even then it won't be until next year because big launches take a LONG time to set up.
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        • Profile picture of the author taylorwinfield4
          Tanner, what is it you mean by these smaller perpetual launches? are they like internal launches etc?
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          • Profile picture of the author Tanner
            Originally Posted by taylorwinfield4 View Post

            Tanner, what is it you mean by these smaller perpetual launches? are they like internal launches etc?
            Yes in part, but not really...a traditional internal launch is still a one time event, just like a JV launch. However a perpetual launch is an ongoing internal product launch that never ends.

            It takes each new subscriber that joins your email list through their own unique product launch completely on autopilot even if all your other subscribers have already experienced your launch.

            A perpetual launch simulates a live launch and the subscriber has no idea that the launch process they are experiencing is automated and has been going on for weeks, months or years.
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            • Profile picture of the author ak2000
              With perpetual launches isn't there a risk that subscribers find out about the fake "launch" through forums, blogs etc?

              In which case the product seller would look a bit silly of course..

              At the end of the day, if they are in that niche seriously enough to the point they will buy the product they will most likely hang out in those places..

              Cheers

              Originally Posted by Tanner View Post

              Yes in part, but not really...a traditional internal launch is still a one time event, just like a JV launch. However a perpetual launch is an ongoing internal product launch that never ends.

              It takes each new subscriber that joins your email list through their own unique product launch completely on autopilot even if all your other subscribers have already experienced your launch.

              A perpetual launch simulates a live launch and the subscriber has no idea that the launch process they are experiencing is automated and has been going on for weeks, months or years.
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              • Profile picture of the author Tanner
                Originally Posted by ak2000 View Post

                With perpetual launches isn't there a risk that subscribers find out about the fake "launch" through forums, blogs etc?

                In which case the product seller would look a bit silly of course..

                At the end of the day, if they are in that niche seriously enough to the point they will buy the product they will most likely hang out in those places..

                Cheers
                Hey,

                Sorry for the delay in responding, I just now saw your post. I answered this same question in my wso thread and I've copied my answer below:

                This was something that worried me as well when I first got started with perpetual launches, but what I found out was that it really didn't matter or affect my sales.

                For example, I have a product that has been on the market since 2002, and over the years it has become the "go to" product in that niche and it is very very well known. Last year I decided to set that product up as a perpetual launch and see what happened.

                First of all my conversions went sky high, but I knew that would happen thanks to the pre-launch, and second I did not receive any negative publicity like I thought I would by trying to launch an old product.

                Instead I found people talking about my pre-launch goodies (videos and reports) on the niche forums and recommending that people opt-in to check them out. It is for this reason that your pre-launch content provide true value and information rather than just launch hype.

                I have other products that were only ever launched as a perpetual launch and have since become rather well known in their niches and they have also not suffered any of the issues about "fakeness' or being "staged"

                So as long as your pre-launch content provides value and the only way to gain access to your product is through your perpetual launch funnel, then your perpetual launch will remain effective.


                Regards,

                Tanner
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
    On a side note, I give George Brown and Adam Horwitz mad credit for putting together their GS and MM launches.

    They were like 18 years old. How they had the mental fortitude at such a young age to do one of these launches is beyond me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cash37
    I think that big time GURU JV's are hard to do if you are not in the good ol' boys club.

    Which I why I avoid the IM niche completely when I want partners

    In other niches you would be surprised how happy blog owners are to have you give them a quick pointer on their site, then inform them they can make $20+ a sale just for referring a customer to you.

    And once they do make a couple sales all of sudden your site becomes "the sponsor" of everything they do You got to love that.

    All of this with no upsells, EPC crap, or begging some marketer who doesn't give a crap about you to work with you. People are people! The term JV just means "a person that can build awareness for your product."

    The only thing I'll agree with these gurus on is that it does take time to collect all your partners' information. I mean, a LOT of time. As I currently do it manually it takes me about a week to build my lists up. But after that its all good

    So my advice in a nutshell is to go create a non IM product then google "keyword" blog and start contacting people and giving them pointers and content. Then pitch your site once they warm up to you!
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    • Profile picture of the author taylorwinfield4
      Wow, gotta love the warrior forum! Learnt a tonne of stuff I wasn't aware of this morning! Guess I've got quite a while yet till a big launch then!

      Thanks for all your posts, you've all been dead helpful helping a beginner out!

      Taylor
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  • Profile picture of the author Luke McCormack
    The best affiliates are home grown (i.e your own subscribers) There is a lot to be said for scripts like RAP as used so well by the likes of James Penn.

    Regards

    Nigel
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    • Profile picture of the author JamesPenn
      Originally Posted by nigelwhittaker View Post

      The best affiliates are home grown (i.e your own subscribers) There is a lot to be said for scripts like RAP as used so well by the likes of James Penn.

      Regards

      Nigel
      Thanks Nigel for the mention.

      I wouldn't get too hung up on having a launch. Yes, they are great but they're also a lot of work and stress.

      What happens if your site goes down? Or your payment processor? Or Aweber is down for the day?

      I've never done a launch, and doubt I will. I don't think I'd be able to handle it - or organise it for that matter.

      There is an alternative however.

      Just put your product up online and gradually start recruiting affiliates. Constantly increase your visitor value and then find bigger and better affiliates.

      You won't ever have a million dollar day, but you can have a million dollar year.

      And you won't have any of the stresses and strains of organising a big launch. Plus, if something's not working for a few hours, such as your payment processor, you won't piss off a bunch of affiliates and cost yourself tens of thousands of dollars in lost sales.

      This is how I do it...

      - Get my product up online
      - Drive some traffic, get some conversion data
      - Tweak and improve it
      - Once you're happy with the numbers get some affiliates. (I don't get affiliates until I KNOW my product converts. I feel completely embarrassed if someone promotes my products and it doesn't convert.)
      - Turn customers into affiliates. This only really works in the IM niche and can help your product virally explode.

      This is a stress free way to selling online that you can gradually improve on and build on.

      James
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  • Profile picture of the author iSoftware
    Google "30k in 30 days"...it's a goldmind mastermind session with a room full of like 10 or so of the top internet marketing guys - filsaime, anik singal, jonathan Mizel.

    Basically here's it in a nutshell:
    1) scour google's top 10 rankings for websites in your niche
    2) offer them a 50% cut of your product
    3) have them place your autoresponder code on their site (say a popup) to invite their visitors to an intro webinar

    You can put an upsell offer on the thank you page and give your partners 100% commission or 50% (say something like "To Prepare for this Powerpacked Webinar do your homework by reading this material).

    **When the websites see instant earnings and high epc's they will be very enthusiastic about working with you
    4) Profit.

    Alot of people only think "big lists" when it comes to JV's but the fact of the matter is that anyone with traffic and an authoritative voice is a potential JV partner. Some other sources of traffic/jv partners I am looking into (and to summarize):
    a) People ranking for potentially high converting keywords (as an example, let's say you are selling a forex course. Woudn't you want some traffic from the guy/girl who's ranking #1 for the term "buy forex training course" ?! Hardly anyone thinks about this...)
    Some Ways to Find Affiliates/JV Partners:

    b) People with alot of facebook friends/fans (just offer them 50% for placing an optin box on their fan page or sending an announcement about it)

    c)People with masses of twitter followers (have them tweet their affiliate link and offer the 50%)

    d) Linkedin group owners (have them mention your product and offer them 50%)

    By the way, some people paid up to $997 for this info on a training course like 3 years ago so you guys can thank me later
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      Originally Posted by moneykws View Post


      By the way, some people paid up to $997 for this info on a training course like 3 years ago so you guys can thank me later
      That was the bonus to the training course if I am not mistaken. It was some good stuff on there though, I need to look for my copy
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Million
    1) Sell customers on becoming affiliates

    2) Contact JV brokers

    3) Consider approaching the big listers and giving them 100% Commission on Your Front End, OTO, and Second OTO if applicable (they're going to give you a huge buyer list... plus you're establishing a relationship and if they bite and make a lot of money, they'll take you very seriously the next time.)

    4) Pay or ask to guest blog post on authority blogs (or provide review content they can turn into a quality post with their voice and affiliate link.)

    5) If it's a software product or something that's not branded with "you" (won't work with an info product), consider co-launching with someone who has an established list and affiliate base. Just make sure you get access to the buyer leads (you can import them into iContact.)

    6) Gotta have at least one OTO to get most of the b listers, and a's for sure... and the bigger the ticket on the front end and back end (that can convert) the better. One thing that will really make you stand out is a recorded webinar. You can go really high ticket on these and you'll be 'in' if you can prove conversion (and it's really hard not to convert with webinars...like REALLY hard.)

    7) MAKE SURE to give your affiliates materials, especially email series (not just single emails) to promote your offer. Way to many marketers skip this, or do a poor job and it's like, really, right at the finish line? (I'm guilty of this sometimes... stupid!)

    There's also 100s of Warriors in the WSO section you can PM, many of whom would take advantage of a decent offer, even without an OTO... as mentioned above, better to have stats, but there's a lot of marketers with lists in here that are just looking to mail on something (but you WANT good conversions anyway, right!!!???)

    Hope that helps. PM me and I'll send you a link to an offer I did like that of #5, so you can get an idea of how it works.

    BTW - STRONGLY consider giving 100% commission on this first launch to build your affiliate list and get as many buyers as possible. I know it sucks in the short term, but it will set you up to do ridiculousness in the near future (yes, you heard me right, ridiculousness.)

    Also, by launch I assume you're doing a limited time offer. You don't need to 'close the doors', just make it clear that you're offering a special price that they'll never see again from you (and it's true.) Once done, raise the price to what you promised it'd be... then use the conversion/sales data from the launch to acquire close some power affiliates, setup a special 24, 48, or 72 hour launch (however long it was) with the 'special affiliate', where you can drop the price again just for their list... gotta be on a different subfolder or page than the previous one... A little more manual than 'just grab your affiliate link' but can work very well... and you give them your emails, the times you sent them, etc. so that their conversions will mimic yours.

    Lastly, before you approach any potential affiliate, take some time to read up on what they're all about. Join lists, read their blogs, skim their products, etc. and make mention in your communication. If they see that you have their (and their list's) best interests at heart (most product owners don't convey this and just send their 'hey promote this for 100% commission!!!' like I'm an excited noob dumbass...delete ) you'll get more closes.
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  • Profile picture of the author poojagoyal
    Originally Posted by taylorwinfield4 View Post

    Hi guys just a quick question I'm pretty stuck on.

    I've got a launch coming up for my own product at the end of this month, and I've been sending out emails like crazy to gather some affiliates for this launch, I contacted Mike Merz at JV Notify Pro and because of the upgrade to 2.0 he isn't taking anymore JV Requests. This leaves me very stuck, because I would like to make this launch successful as I put hours upon hours of hard work into the product, and I believe it is highly professional.

    So my question is, what is the best way for a 'Nobody' in the internet marketing biz to gather high quality affiliates for my launch? and what do you guys usually do?

    Thanks,
    Taylor
    Hi Taylor,

    Thanks for starting this thread. I'm preparing for a launch and this thread has some fantastic advice.

    Pooja
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  • Profile picture of the author gabibeowulf
    Your best affiliate should be yourself.

    If your business is centered around other people doing the promotion
    work for you it won't work.

    I don't worry about affiliates. Once they see the product is popular and
    there's a lot of talk about it ( if it's a great product packed with new
    information gems there will be a natural buzz around it), affiliates will
    show up.

    You must worry first about having your own list. Promote other people's
    products and they will certainly want to reciprocate the favor.

    Just a thought ..

    Gabriel
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    • Profile picture of the author Forex Trader
      Originally Posted by gabibeowulf View Post

      Your best affiliate should be yourself.

      If your business is centered around other people doing the promotion
      work for you it won't work.

      I don't worry about affiliates. Once they see the product is popular and
      there's a lot of talk about it ( if it's a great product packed with new
      information gems there will be a natural buzz around it), affiliates will
      show up.

      You must worry first about having your own list. Promote other people's
      products and they will certainly want to reciprocate the favor.

      Just a thought ..

      Gabriel

      List building is the answer, although it is very tough to do!
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  • Profile picture of the author warriorkay
    Wow, very powerful contributions have been
    shared here that should help anyone. But
    you know where the problem is? Many will
    read all these wonderful tips, shrug their
    shoulders and say "there gotta be an easier
    way", and they won't take action on what's
    here. Too bad, yes, but we all fall victims
    many times - always looking for the "easier"
    route,

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  • Profile picture of the author indchris
    There is a software by neil shearing - search on the web, its free - chris Rempel' site also had a link to it - use that tool with keywords pertinent to your product. You'll get a list of related websites..Write to the webmasters, give a good offer, most important your product has to be good. About 2-5% will come on board. Focus on the small guys, get some sales going.. then use those stats to get the bigger ones. that 's how I did it for a friend of mine a while ago. Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author bertuseng
    Awesome stuff in ths thread. Thanks for the great advice. i will use it for my big launch.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dallin
    Thanks for the info guys! I am working on a product with my partner right now and this stuff is going to help us make sure we have all our ducks in a row before we launch.

    P.S.
    It seems like doing a lot of testing before hand is the biggest thing. Do any of you guys have some solid techniques for getting some of the statistics needed to woo JV partners.

    Thanks again Guys.

    Dallin
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  • Profile picture of the author Super Affiliate
    Taylor,

    For me, I've done a few JV projects before and what they almost always ask me
    is this.

    "Sales stats"

    If your product is hot and you could prove it is a winner by stats, they will be
    definitely interested.

    If you still can't get any JV partners with this, another alternative is pay for
    solo ads. I recently bought 2 of them and they went pretty well.

    Hope that helps.

    Joe
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  • Profile picture of the author hardline
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    • Profile picture of the author JPROPS
      Hi Taylor,

      I beta tested JV Genie and I highly recommend it. It does what it says on the tin and it's super simple to use. I found 35 potential JV partners in a matter of minutes, used the mail campaign functionality and got a really good response.

      You could also take advantage of the free videos from the JV Attraction Formula pre-launch to see it in action.

      A good system makes for an effective product launch and as many the people here have mentioned, you really need to get your ducks in a row and plan your launch with precision.

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      Hey Taylor, use JVGenie to find, contact, and land JV partners and affiliates.
      There's no easier way than with this software.

      Check out the demo here

      We'll be releasing this software as a part of Andy Hussong's, John Reese's former affiliate manager, product - JV Attraction Formula.
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  • Profile picture of the author keys2prosper
    Great info here guys... Thanks a Million! What you you guys think about all of this HYPE marketing nowadays.... it seems like everyone is making 150k a month.

    What about the people who want to make a nice 5 figure a month income from a proven method?.....

    Anyway, Thanks a lot!

    p.s.
    I am also working on a launch
    and will be on here a lot from now on.

    p.p.s
    Any recommend seminars coming up soon?
    I was looking into Mark Anastasi's ClickBank one
    but I missed it.

    Cheers!

    Lil Tony
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  • Profile picture of the author theforexgeek
    Great information thanks. I have recently added my product to clickbank and did not consdier alot of the points mentioned. I would like to add that submitting to affiliate directories and forums is also a good idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author James Foster
    Spend some money testing your sales funnel. There have been numerous people in this thread who have already talked about that, so read those.

    After you have a proven funnel - hire a JV broker. If you get a good one, they already have connections and are known for promoting quality stuff. From there the broker will get you the affiliates you want. And if you have a good product, funnel, and make the affiliates a bunch of money - you'll be treading on your own name from there on out.
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  • Profile picture of the author DennisM
    Here's some options....and this was specifically mentioned to me PERSONALLY on how to get JV's in this business.

    Start with relationship building (as mentioned in this thread already). PM some folks here in the WF. Just say hi! "I liked your post about...." etc.

    As we all know, most IMers are lazy. Especially the ones not making money. It's true! Product creation is a lot of work and everyone knows it! You could offer your pride and joy product on a silver platter. "Hey, here is my product, I've done everything... you can HAVE IT. Put your name on it!". People with big lists may jump on it if it makes sense. If anything, you will get noticed and even if shot down maybe get some good feedback.

    Another option is to piggyback on an upcoming launch. If the launch is somewhat related to your new product ask the JV to put YOUR offer on their THANK YOU page of the launch. I'd offer the full 100% commission so you can build an opt in list. If you're hell bent on making some money I'd offer a min. of 75% commission. This way, the JV can offer 25% to his partners and still clear 50%.

    Also, Jason Moffatt has a blog post about how to JV (NO aff. link) Jason Moffatt

    Dennis
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  • Profile picture of the author maesil
    Originally Posted by taylorwinfield4 View Post

    Hi guys just a quick question I'm pretty stuck on.

    I've got a launch coming up for my own product at the end of this month, and I've been sending out emails like crazy to gather some affiliates for this launch, I contacted Mike Merz at JV Notify Pro and because of the upgrade to 2.0 he isn't taking anymore JV Requests. This leaves me very stuck, because I would like to make this launch successful as I put hours upon hours of hard work into the product, and I believe it is highly professional.

    So my question is, what is the best way for a 'Nobody' in the internet marketing biz to gather high quality affiliates for my launch? and what do you guys usually do?

    Thanks,
    Taylor
    If you're stuck in a hole, and you can't possibly put any more of your life and soul into keeping up with the financial requirements of business, JV deals are the best way to go. However, with a little bit of social media presence, you may be able to find opportunities where marketing agencies will do all the work for you for a higher percentage of each sale. CPS offers are very common in the higher income or paid networks. CB is relatively low cost, with only $50 being the one time listing fee per product. I recommend contacting webmasters who have modest sized email lists or hundreds of small time newbie marketers.

    It will be very easy to the beginners' attentions because there are virtually no bodies trying to do a deal with them. They will almost always say yes to help promote your product.
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  • Profile picture of the author KhadijahChapman
    Wow this was a really awesome thread - Warrior Forum Rocks!
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