100% Uniqueness with Spinning?

by humbledmarket Banned
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Is it possible to get 100% uniqueness with article spinning? I know it's a fat hope but if you spin multiple levels with many variations is it possible to receive 100% Uniqueness? If not what is the highest uniqueness you can receive?
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    100% unique through spinning?

    You are joking right?

    "Here is a good start..." Crap... That is not unique...

    "Once upon a time..." Darn Nations... That is not unique either...

    "Building content is easy..." Smack... That is not unique...

    Man, this is hard...

    Once you use the word "the" in your copy, it can never be 100% unique, and I am not sure how you are going to avoid using that word, unless you write the entire article in Swahili...
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    • Profile picture of the author humbledmarket
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      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      100% unique through spinning?

      You are joking right?

      "Here is a good start..." Crap... That is not unique...

      "Once upon a time..." Darn Nations... That is not unique either...

      "Building content is easy..." Smack... That is not unique...

      Man, this is hard...

      Once you use the word "the" in your copy, it can never be 100% unique, and I am not sure how you are going to avoid using that word, unless you write the entire article in Swahili...
      True but If you rewrite the entire article sentence by sentence and then word by word. I don't see why not you can't come up with a completely new article with still the same general meaning.
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by humbledmarket View Post

        True but If you rewrite the entire article sentence by sentence and then word by word. I don't see why not you can't come up with a completely new article with still the same general meaning.
        You can write unique articles, but even a fully original article will never be 100% unique...

        I despise article spinners, so I would not be the person to advise you on a good one... I think they are ALL junk...

        But if you are willing to write/spin an article to make it as unique as possible, why don't you just write a new article?
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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Avis
      Yes, but you can only achieve 100% uniqueness for the number of iterations equal to the minimum number of spin options for the smallest element.

      By that I mean if you have the following:

      {1|2|3|4|5} {1|2|3|4|5} {1|2|3|4|5} {1|2}

      Even though there are 5x5x5x2=250 combinations, 50% of them will end in a 1 and 50% will end in a 2, so there are only 2 completely unique versions.

      Martin

      P.S. Article spinning software that purports to guarantee that spun results are x% unique are slightly deceptive in that they can only make that guarantee by comparing the spun article to the original master. There is no way that they can guarantee any degree of uniquenness between any other spun articles from the same source.
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    • Profile picture of the author DropWizard.com
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      100% unique through spinning?

      You are joking right?

      "Here is a good start..." Crap... That is not unique...

      "Once upon a time..." Darn Nations... That is not unique either...

      "Building content is easy..." Smack... That is not unique...

      Man, this is hard...

      Once you use the word "the" in your copy, it can never be 100% unique, and I am not sure how you are going to avoid using that word, unless you write the entire article in Swahili...
      Google ignores words such as "the, and, is" etc for that exact reason.

      In fact I doubt that anything is totally absolutely 100% unique and nothing else like it exists. (article wise)

      Yes you can write articles that will be unique but it takes a lot of substitutions for each word and sentence and is very difficult to keep it all straight in your head so the sense of the article stays intact while you're writing it. I've done a few and it feels like I went 20 rounds in the ring after.....very draining. And I would keep it to less than 100 spun copies.

      In my opinion it's not really worth it as most of those kind of articles end up on junk sites anyway.
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      • Profile picture of the author humbledmarket
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        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        You can write unique articles, but even a fully original article will never be 100% unique...

        I despise article spinners, so I would not be the person to advise you on a good one... I think they are ALL junk...

        But if you are willing to write/spin an article to make it as unique as possible, why don't you just write a new article?
        Thanks for your response. Hmm, you got a point there. Nowadays with the hundred of thousands of articles on the web regarding the same topic. It's hard to find a completely unique article.

        Personally, I don't think they spin junk. It's not a matter of the spinner or tool but how you use is as many people say. It's like the saying goes you put in junk you get junk if you put in effort, and care then you get something completely different.

        This is a paragraph of an article I spun of one very common PLR article I found on the web. I got to admit the flow of the article isn't the best but it's because it wasn't good from the start. It actually sounds better than the original version.

        " Promoting on the Web has been a popular and effective marketing campaign of most business for years. Many companies made use of this with the ads on webpages you visit. Many webmasters understand this and include ads on most sites you visit. Consumer can go to any SE(Search Engine) and enter the text relating to what they are looking for and hit search. They will be provided a huge list from which they can choose resulting in large usage of the interest to find answers . Websites are frequently preferred for places of solution. This is the marketing potential of the Online Real Estate. Making it a super cost efficient and time effective method of promoting ."

        Here is the unedited version:
        " Promoting on the Web has been a popular and effective marketing campaign of most business for years Many companies made use of this with the ads on webpages you visit.Many webmasters understand this and include ads on most sites you visit. Consumer can go to any SE(Search Engine) and enter the text relating to what they are looking for and hit search and they will be provided a huge list from which they can choose resulting in large usage of the interest to find answers . are frequently preferred for places of solution . This is the marketing potential of the Online Real Estate. Making it a super cost efficient and time effective method of promoting ."

        I did make small editions from reviewing it but it only takes about less than a minute to edit it. The issues weren't with the word variations but the spinner it self. It seem to add spaces where they weren't meant to be.

        This is also copyscape pass.

        I'm currnetly using the spinner provided by SEO Link Vine. I don't really appreciate it much as it always seem to add additional spaces between word variations which affect the lay out. If you make a mistake and you type too close they also group it wrongly with the syntax instead of content.

        Also everytime you add new variations you have to underline: "edit text here" and then type it in. It would be easier just to allow you to immediately type it in.
        Originally Posted by Martin.Avis View Post

        Yes, but you can only achieve 100% uniqueness for the number of iterations equal to the minimum number of spin options for the smallest element.

        By that I mean if you have the following:

        {1|2|3|4|5} {1|2|3|4|5} {1|2|3|4|5} {1|2}

        Even though there are 5x5x5x2=250 combinations, 50% of them will end in a 1 and 50% will end in a 2, so there are only 2 completely unique versions.

        Martin

        P.S. Article spinning software that purports to guarantee that spun results are x% unique are slightly deceptive in that they can only make that guarantee by comparing the spun article to the original master. There is no way that they can guarantee any degree of uniquenness between any other spun articles from the same source.
        Thanks for your response, that is a good point. I have considered that but I'm just hoping the uniqueness will be enough to pass google duplicated content searchers.

        The reason why I would prefer to spin an article than rewrite one is because it can be very creatively draining to write say 50 articles of the same topic to distribute for backlinks. I'm also doing it as part of teh process using SEO Link Vine.
        Originally Posted by DropWizard.com View Post

        Google ignores words such as "the, and, is" etc for that exact reason.

        In fact I doubt that anything is totally absolutely 100% unique and nothing else like it exists. (article wise)

        Yes you can write articles that will be unique but it takes a lot of substitutions for each word and sentence and is very difficult to keep it all straight in your head so the sense of the article stays intact while you're writing it. I've done a few and it feels like I went 20 rounds in the ring after.....very draining. And I would keep it to less than 100 spun copies.

        In my opinion it's not really worth it as most of those kind of articles end up on junk sites anyway.
        You got a good point but personally I prefer to spend an hour or two properly spinning an article than spending 10 hours writing 50 articles.

        I don't know I guess it's just a matter of opinion and preference. I find excessive writing of the same topic very draining and boring. Where as all I'm doing now is finding various alternatives to sentences and individual words.

        I guess if you're more of a creative writer than article spinning isn't good for you. If however you're a good editor than article spinning might be preferred. That's essentially what you're doing; editing an article.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    You might be able to get unique articles (as in different words) but the quality will be CRAP.

    Why waste your time trying to come up with all of the stupid synonyms?

    Just write the whole articles manually. It's way easier.

    Just my Opinion
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Mohammad Afaq View Post

      You might be able to get unique articles (as in different words) but the quality will be CRAP.

      Why waste your time trying to come up with all of the stupid synonyms?

      Just write the whole articles manually. It's way easier.

      Just my Opinion

      P.S. I don't spin; I syndicate...

      Which means that I don't try to build my business on 100's of iterations of the same basic article...

      I find my strength in a story that stands strong by itself...

      When people love reading my articles, they also love linking to my articles... Which in turn gives my article link popularity, which in turn gives my site some really powerful links from pages with real link popularity...

      But I have never actually written for search engines anyway... I am always looking to attract a reader to my link, for the direct click-through traffic and the chance to directly sell my stuff to my readers...

      It is a different approach than people who spin articles use... The story approach worked before the Internet and has always worked on the Internet... But it is not for everyone...
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      • Profile picture of the author humbledmarket
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        Originally Posted by Mohammad Afaq View Post

        You might be able to get unique articles (as in different words) but the quality will be CRAP.

        Why waste your time trying to come up with all of the stupid synonyms?

        Just write the whole articles manually. It's way easier.

        Just my Opinion
        As mentioned above. I've notice if you properly edit it that the quality won't be all that junk as people say.

        Personally I prefer spending one or two good hours of editing than spending 10 horus writing 40 rushed articles. I find writing too many articles in once niche drains my creativeity.
        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        P.S. I don't spin; I syndicate...

        Which means that I don't try to build my business on 100's of iterations of the same basic article...

        I find my strength in a story that stands strong by itself...

        When people love reading my articles, they also love linking to my articles... Which in turn gives my article link popularity, which in turn gives my site some really powerful links from pages with real link popularity...

        But I have never actually written for search engines anyway... I am always looking to attract a reader to my link, for the direct click-through traffic and the chance to directly sell my stuff to my readers...

        It is a different approach than people who spin articles use... The story approach worked before the Internet and has always worked on the Internet... But it is not for everyone...
        That is a good point you have there. I intend to use a mixture of both. I want to use quality and favoured content on my site but spun content for backlinking purposes.

        I still ensure good readability in my articles that I put for backlinking purpose as not to spam the web with unless unreadable article.
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  • Profile picture of the author seoweb2000
    Originally Posted by humbledmarket View Post

    Is it possible to get 100% uniqueness with article spinning? I know it's a fat hope but if you spin multiple levels with many variations is it possible to receive 100% Uniqueness? If not what is the highest uniqueness you can receive?
    You can get 300% if you want according to some of the spinning software.

    Here's the key.. For each paragraph write 3 versions. ..for each sentence write 3 versions and for each other try to find 3 versions. You will have 100%+ for sure.
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    • Profile picture of the author Orkhan Ibad
      I your spin is 100% unique, then it is not spinning, it is writing a new article.

      Cheers,
      Orkhan Ibad

      P.S. BTW, why do you need 100% unique spinning, 30-40% is always ok for you.
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