Fixing Google once and for all

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I am tired of being stuck with the top search results that Google decides that I can look at, often there is a search result of 20,000 results just for arguments sake and I can only check the top 400.

How do I get Google to allow me to view every single result if I so wished?

I have things I want to do what makes it necessary to want to check other results than the top few...I am tired of everything being "omitted"
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    First, I don't think it is possible.

    and secondly, don't waste your time looking at every result on the page. You competition is the top 10 results and you have to be better than them and you will end up on the top. You should care what 100000000 th result looks like unless you plan on competing with it
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  • Profile picture of the author Rock Solid
    Honestly most of those omissions are just rehashed content and vaguely related content, they omit it for a reason, I wouldn't worry about it too much. If your referring to YOUR site being omitted then it may take a bit more coercing and time to build you way up the Google ladder =)
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    First, you are wrongly assuming Google is broken...

    Second, those additional results that you want to see, Google clipped in the early days of operation... They clipped the data beyond a certain point to reduce their computing needs...

    Third, those additional results are often junk...

    Fourth, if you are not finding what you need in the first 400 results, you are searching wrong...

    And Fifth, if you think Google is really broken, use on of the other 54+ search engines to find better results... I hear Bing is getting to be pretty good these days... And I have seen from my own results that they often deliver the kinds of results that I as a consumer would want to see...
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    • Profile picture of the author DogScout
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      First, you are wrongly assuming Google is broken...

      Second, those additional results that you want to see, Google clipped in the early days of operation... They clipped the data beyond a certain point to reduce their computing needs...

      Third, those additional results are often junk...

      Fourth, if you are not finding what you need in the first 400 results, you are searching wrong...

      And Fifth, if you think Google is really broken, use on of the other 54+ search engines to find better results... I hear Bing is getting to be pretty good these days... And I have seen from my own results that they often deliver the kinds of results that I as a consumer would want to see...
      Amen on the Bing comment. On Google, whatever they are doing, sucks, I usually just skip right to page 3 as the top 2 pages are more and more just sites gaming the system and not returning anything close to helpful results. I know a lot of less savvy users doing the same thing or switching to Bing.
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  • Profile picture of the author sanssecret
    You're not 'stuck' with them. If you want to see all results you just click the little box after the last result to repeat the search to include the 'omitted' results. I really can't begin to imagine why you would want to trawl through 20,000 results though. :confused:
    Originally Posted by Sparhawke View Post

    I am tired of being stuck with the top search results that Google decides that I can look at, often there is a search result of 20,000 results just for arguments sake and I can only check the top 400.

    How do I get Google to allow me to view every single result if I so wished?

    I have things I want to do what makes it necessary to want to check other results than the top few...I am tired of everything being "omitted"
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  • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
    You assume that I want the results in order to get to the first page, this could not be further from the truth :p

    I never once said Google is broken, I said "fixing" which means finding an option that will allow me to search through all those queries that it feels that are of no use to me.

    Why can't I be the judge of what is of worth to me? :p

    My whole new strategy that I am developing is predicated on not following the top ten results but going in a completely different direction, and without that information my task is made many orders of magnitude harder.

    I do not care about the top ten results, they do not even matter and are basically a red herring in that looking at them simply leads you off down a merry path in the wrong direction, I just want to find some way to really dig down into Googles results and get my hands dirty on what has been lost and forgotten.

    Everyone chases the top ten, which is the whole reason there can only be one winner...I am working on changing that for myself, once and for all
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Sparhawke View Post

      You assume that I want the results in order to get to the first page, this could not be further from the truth :p

      I never once said Google is broken, I said "fixing" which means finding an option that will allow me to search through all those queries that it feels that are of no use to me.

      Why can't I be the judge of what is of worth to me? :p

      My whole new strategy that I am developing is predicated on not following the top ten results but going in a completely different direction, and without that information my task is made many orders of magnitude harder.

      I do not care about the top ten results, they do not even matter, I just want to find some way to really dig down into Googles results and get my hands dirty on what has been lost and forgotten.

      Everyone chases the top ten, which is the whole reason there can only be one winner...I am working on changing that, once and for all
      Well, I have no idea how you are going to get that deeper data from Google... They don't want to give it to you...

      So you are left with two options I previously mentioned...

      Search Google is new and different ways... OR

      Try a new search engine...

      p.s. Fixing, in my mind, implies broken...
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  • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
    When Google throws up the number 145,000,000 results...that number is complete bologna. The results they show you are really the only relevant ones with respect to the actual subject matter unless a web page has not been properly indexed and placed yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author myshow
    why would you even worry about it when you know your competitors are those that appear on the first pages. Google has even stopped showing all of the inbound link using the syntax link:domain.com which it earlier used to, perhaps to curb manipulating the results by SEOs.

    The point is if Google has decided not to show, you are not going to be shown and therefore will not see them. If its for competition analysis there are plenty of tools like alexa, backlinkwatch etc which i use for my video sharing site as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
      Originally Posted by myshow View Post

      why would you even worry about it when you know your competitors are those that appear on the first pages. Google has even stopped showing all of the inbound link using the syntax link:domain.com which it earlier used to, perhaps to curb manipulating the results by SEOs.

      The point is if Google has decided not to show, you are not going to be shown and therefore will not see them. If its for competition analysis there are plenty of tools like alexa, backlinkwatch etc which i use for my video sharing site as well.
      Because I am not looking for direct competitors, but results that have been forgotten about and abandoned because these are often far more interesting than those just shoved on a page for SEO purposes.

      There are far more ways out there to make money than to look at the top competitors for the keywords "money online", I am looking for those hidden ways. I need results in huge quantity to make a comparison chart, 300-400 results just will not cut it.

      I am looking specifically for those results that will never appear in the main search listings by default

      Haven't you ever wished that you could do what Google "claims" they do and find all the worlds information at your fingertips instead of what Google only wants to show you because they make money on it?

      To give you an example without actually giving my entire plan away:

      Imagine you are looking for blogs to comment on, and you search for "This site uses KeywordLuv. Enter YourName@YourKeywords in the Name field to take advantage."

      You are obviously going to end up with the exact same results as everyone else, which is to all intents and purposes a complete waste of time.

      I want to find a way of getting ALL of the results and being able to pick and choose at will because not all the result shown will be of much use to me. I want to find this way because then I can move away from the rest of the crowd and do something different.

      (This is not my plan, but the only way available to explain it)
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  • Actually google clipped it I think 7-8 years ago, simply because at that time there was a lot of automated software that was randomly searching results to extract e-mail addresses & send spam.

    Right now I don't believe there is a way to bypass the 1,000 mark, aside from reprogramming google's server or doing some fancy API manipulation. (I believe actually if you do purchase a developer license with them, then you can bypass that restriction).

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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    Jeez Louise, guys, leave the poor guy alone! He clearly has his reasons for wanting to dig deeper into the SERPs. Stop telling him he only should be concerned with the Top 10. You're making assumptions that don't always apply.

    I got your back, Sparhawke.

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    • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
      Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post

      Jeez Louise, guys, leave the poor guy alone! He clearly has his reasons for wanting to dig deeper into the SERPs. Stop telling him he only should be concerned with the Top 10. You're making assumptions that don't always apply.

      I got your back, Sparhawke.

      John
      If he wants to dwell on position 452 , let him I guess, but I'm
      trying to find a single reason why anybody would care less.

      The ONLY important place in Google, is a place your result
      gets seen in.
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  • Profile picture of the author soulravager
    You can't view any results beyond the 1000th one.
    If you are going to compete with the 4000th result you need to stop trying to do SEO
    Your real competition is first 5 places or for more competative niches the first 5 pages.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
      Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post

      If he wants to dwell on position 452 , let him I guess, but I'm
      trying to find a single reason why anybody would care less.

      The ONLY important place in Google, is a place your result
      gets seen in.
      I am not looking for first page results here though, to use my example I am looking for blogs to backlink from but I DO NOT want to be stuck with the same 400 blogs that everyone else is stuck with. I am looking for a way to get past this stupid restriction so that I can do something original. Imagine that everyone in a computer niche only has technorati to backlink from...I want to find those smaller blogs where my link juice gets better because I am the only one there.

      This is not about competing to get onto page one but doing research for which you need real results, not simply the results everyone else is looking at and which have basically tricked their way there.

      Originally Posted by Recession_Proof View Post

      Pages 1 and 2 are all you need to focus on. Anymore than that and you will get stuck in "information overload mode".
      I don't actually suffer from that, when I am focused I can go through thousands of pages to find what I am looking for...sort of like a mild form of single-minded autism.

      Originally Posted by soulravager View Post

      You can't view any results beyond the 1000th one.
      If you are going to compete with the 4000th result you need to stop trying to do SEO
      Your real competition is first 5 places or for more competative niches the first 5 pages.
      Again, I care nothing for the top results, but what is underneath them. I want to eat the iceberg, not the tip :p

      Using Bing and other search engines might be my only choice for the time being though...which is a shame, Google really used to be the dogs bollocks...now for my purposes it is a complete waste of time
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    Well looky there. Sparhawke came up with a valid reason to look deeper into the SERPs. Hey Simon, did you see that? There's your answer.

    Sparhawke, you're clearly just a dummy who needs to learn from all these great marketers bashing your OP. What were you thinking???? :p
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    • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
      Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post

      Well looky there. Sparhawke came up with a valid reason to look deeper into the SERPs. Hey Simon, did you see that? There's your answer.

      Sparhawke, you're clearly just a dummy who needs to learn from all these great marketers bashing your OP. What were you thinking???? :p
      I suffer from this all the time, I know exactly what I want to do but explaining it is tough...especially when you cannot explain it in case the thousands of people looking at this forum at any one time get the same idea lol

      Must be the curse of being brilliant again, everyone simply assumes I am crazy lol
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I understand the "valid reason" - but it's not what google was designed to do.

      That's the problem. I'm sure there are millions of blogs and sites that have some original, wonderful content by a site owner who launched the site and then abandoned it.

      But google isn't designed to find the "losers" and that's why no one can tell the OP how to solve the problem. You would need to design a different search engine that prowls the bottom of the sea rather than skimming the top of the waves.

      Using all available search engines might reveal some gems the OP wants - but doubt there's an easy way to do it.

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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Hey Kay,

        I agree, I did say I don't think there is a way to do it, thats my answer to his question, no you can't do it. Why he's doing it is his business not mine. I don't think what he's doing is good and I wouldn't do it myself and I agree no one can tell the OP how to solve the problem. I was just answering his question without trying to make him look silly.

        Nothing wrong with that.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dellco
          Bing isn't actually better than Google. Most of the time, its results are the same with Google, maybe a little more "jumbled up." The same top 10 in Google is also the same top 10 in Bing....

          And now, there are only 2 major search engines, so unless you want to try Ask, or Cuil.....er, no thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
    To be honest, the question is, how can he get to the results that he's restricted from seeing. He wants to do it for backlink purposes or whatever and that's sparhawkes business. I want to be on page one, number one, so I look at what my competitions doing there. He's going at this from another angle, he may find a ton of new info there, it may just be crap. Either way all he wanted to know was if it was possible.

    Sparhawke, I don't think it is mate but let me know if you have any joy with your plan. I call it thinking outside the box.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Hi Sparhawke,

    I really feel for you, buddy.

    Seriously, what do your motivations have to do with anything? You're just asking a simple question.

    There have been times when I have wanted to go beyond that 1,000th result myself. I'm sure my reasons were different, but it would be nice to be able to do it when you wanted to.

    If it's a matter of just trying to find as many sites beyond the main listings as possible, the only thing I can think of is to add a few keywords and weed out the duplicates from each batch of results.

    For example, if you were searching for "This site uses KeywordLuv. Enter YourName@YourKeywords in the Name field to take advantage." in the pets niche, you could do...

    "This site uses KeywordLuv. Enter YourName@YourKeywords in the Name field to take advantage." + cats

    "This site uses KeywordLuv. Enter YourName@YourKeywords in the Name field to take advantage." + dogs

    "This site uses KeywordLuv. Enter YourName@YourKeywords in the Name field to take advantage." + cobras

    (Or do all of them with a - instead of a +)

    And so on. I admit it's not an elegant solution, and may not apply to your needs, but it could help weed out a few extra results.

    If it's not absolutely necessary to use Google, and you just need as many sites as you can get, then checking other search engines makes sense, as others have suggested.

    All the best,
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    I think you can remove the pages you have submitted from your search results if you signed up with you Gmail account to see new results every time you search.
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