Guys are you serious about your success or are you lying?

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Basically I felt bad all day long. And why? Because I tried so many method and none gave result.
I'm seeing so many guys here that says oh I buyed that WSO and made so much money...that much money etc.
I know I applied the information in a WSO that had 'rave reviews' and even with my addons to the method I couldn't make more than 5 dollars in a day with this method and the WSO said it will be 60-70 dollars per day at least in 4 days or a week which I could say it's so bull****. Without my addons I woudn't even made $5.
So tell me...is there a secret to this online marketing thing or you just have to try and try until you make it?
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  • Profile picture of the author jamjar919
    Try and try again - then what makes you money do it again and again and again instead of leaping from method to method.
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  • Profile picture of the author GuerrillaIM
    Perhaps start by laying out what you are doing and ask if anyone can see a way to get it making more.
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    • Profile picture of the author BrashImpact
      Originally Posted by GuerrillaIM View Post

      Perhaps start by laying out what you are doing and ask if anyone can see a way to get it making more.
      Guerilla..well put i 2nd that one... and i might add, that Persistence and Consistence is the key to success at anything. Most people give up and throw in the towel when they are inches from the Goal Line.

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      • Profile picture of the author Hesaidblissfully
        Not all methods are created equal. Some are based on solid business and marketing principles and the author's actual experience, and some are just well-marketed B.S. based on theory or something the author read somewhere and never tested.

        The problem with saying "just pick a method and stick with it" is that you could be advising someone to stick with a method that never had any possibility of earning any real money for anyone but the product's creator.

        Sure, in some cases people aren't seeing results because they aren't putting in enough effort, or they're new and just aren't very good at what they're doing yet, but hypey, theory-based products being sold to clueless people as a golden ticket is a real problem in this industry too. And this sort of misinformation also contributes to why people struggle to see results.

        Generally, the stuff that works is based on fundamentals of marketing. Choosing a niche, market research, product creation/selection, generating targeted traffic, converting browsers into buyers. Simple in principle, but challenging in execution.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Hi MagicAce,

    Sorry to hear about your bad day. Those types of days suck, but we all have them.

    The problem with the question "Guys are you serious about your success or are you lying?" is that nobody is going to say they are lying. It's a flawed question.

    However, I can tell you that success is entirely possible and a lot of Warriors are very successful. I was able to walk away from a full-time ajob a few years ago and it feels great.

    Also, I noticed the word "Believer" under your user name. Sounds like it's time to start believing in the possibilities.

    I hope your day starts going better.

    All the best,
    Michael
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    • Profile picture of the author Marc Rodill
      Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

      Hi MagicAce,

      The problem with the question ... is that nobody is going to say they are lying.

      All the best,
      Michael
      I'm lying. I make ten billion dollars a nanosecond. Compare THAT to Mass Control. Booyah.
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  • Profile picture of the author sanssecret
    Sorry to hear you've had a bad day. But it's not because of what you've written in your post.
    You say you've tried so many methods without any results. Yet you then say, one WSO you tried made you $5 a day. So there's a result. Ok, it might not have been the result the WSO poster got, but it's a result. It worked. Do you know how many folks fail to even make that?

    So keep doing it. Find out what made it work, did your addons improve it, or would it have performed better without them? I'm not trying to be funny here, but sometimes you might think something will be an improvement, but actually it could be just the opposite.

    Stop trying 'so many methods'. Stick with this one you've found to be working and find a way to make it work better.

    And no, there are no secrets. You just have to be willing to keep going on days like today.
    Originally Posted by MagicAce View Post

    Basically I felt bad all day long. And why? Because I tried so many method and none gave result.
    I'm seeing so many guys here that says oh I buyed that WSO and made so much money...that much money etc.
    I know I applied the information in a WSO that had 'rave reviews' and even with my addons to the method I couldn't make more than 5 dollars in a day with this method and the WSO said it will be 60-70 dollars per day at least in 4 days or a week which I could say it's so bull****. Without my addons I woudn't even made $5.
    So tell me...is there a secret to this online marketing thing or you just have to try and try until you make it?
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    • Profile picture of the author MagicAce
      It's because the method was blackhat that I don't think it's worth to pursue it. If a method is balckhat and it's not making you at least $30 per day...than it's not a method.


      Originally Posted by sanssecret View Post

      Sorry to hear you've had a bad day. But it's not because of what you've written in your post.
      You say you've tried so many methods without any results. Yet you then say, one WSO you tried made you $5 a day. So there's a result. Ok, it might not have been the result the WSO poster got, but it's a result. It worked. Do you know how many folks fail to even make that?

      So keep doing it. Find out what made it work, did your addons improve it, or would it have performed better without them? I'm not trying to be funny here, but sometimes you might think something will be an improvement, but actually it could be just the opposite.

      Stop trying 'so many methods'. Stick with this one you've found to be working and find a way to make it work better.

      And no, there are no secrets. You just have to be willing to keep going on days like today.
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  • Profile picture of the author keadams26
    I am dead serious. With my 5 autoblogs that I created two weeks ago, I have made $6.32 total. I am rockin!
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  • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
    hey MagicAce,

    I know exactly what you mean. I struggled for a very long time online before I actually made it. But, I did not start making it online until I started treating my business as a business.

    So many times we become opportunity seekers online. Meaning, we jump from opportunity to opportunity trying to make a fast dollar online.

    That will never work. If you are doing that, that is probably your main problem.

    Plus, you need to take consistent focused action every single day. You need to find a method that actually works and work on that method every day.

    But within that last paragraph lies the problem. It's hard to sift through what is garbage and what actually works. You need to take your time and find a mentor and a program to follow that is proven.

    Then, focus all your time and effort on that program and that method. Stay focused and stay disciplined and you'll start seeing the fruits of your labor.
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  • At this rate, I'll be raking in 71 cents a day in no time!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author KevL
    THEY ARE ALL LYING

    Just kidding - well, kind of... keep reading....

    We all have these moments - I've been involved in web marketing for over 10 years, and you know what - for most of that time I didn't make penny!!. I was fustrated for a looooong time. Took me a long, long time to learn.

    For me, it was because I bounced from one "the next mega idea" to the next "the next mega idea" and I didn't stick to one system. If I could go back to the same me 10+ years ago, I would shake him, and tell him to find one system & ignore everything else.

    You don't need mega new systems - all you need is a system. Look at all the people making real money who have been for ages, they're not doing anything ground breaking or new.

    One thing about your question, you say:

    I'm seeing so many guys here that says oh I buyed that WSO and made so much money...that much money etc.
    First of all, when you're seeing these kinds of reviews in WSO's - ask yourself, are these people ACTUALLY saying they made money, or is that the way you are interpreting it? For instance, if the sales copy says "make thousands per month" and then you read someone giving a mega review - are they actually saying the words "WOW thank you, I made $xxxx with this system"?

    Quite often if you go through these, it's not people saying they made money, it's people saying positive things about it - but it's not that often that you'll see someone replying to a WSO to say "I made lots of money from this"

    The thing you have to remember is that we're human - and we like buying things, it's excapism.

    You've heard the saying "Sell the dream" - well, you have to be very careful that you are actually buying something for the right reason, and you're not buying the dream. Over the years I have paid crazy amounts for products which hit all the right emotional buttons, but actually, the product was a complete pile of pants - waste of money, and nobody ever made money from it.

    You just need to find one system - and stick to it. And by system - I don't mean you have to go out & buy into some all new amazing system.

    Here's one thing you need to learn -

    SALES COPY IS THE TRUTH ON STEROIDS


    It's not fair to say that copy is lies - but generally speaking the truth is enhanced, amplified. It has to be, if people want to sell stuff. If I make a product & create sales copy which says - I make some money with this, and if you have the necessary skills & time to put in, then you may make money from it too - it won't sell much!

    Also, certain things will be presented which look fantastic when they're presented in a certain way or without othe important info.

    For instance, they may have a system which has made them $50,000 in one month, and they show you a great looking clickbank screen...

    But what the sales copy will NOT tell you, is what their costs were to make that $50,000 - it won't tell you what their nett profit actually was, it won't tell you where they got their traffic from, or the fact that they already had a list of 100,000 + or other important info.

    Some of the Guru's have teams of people, huge PPC outlay & so on, so if they show that they made $xxxxx just bear in mind that as well as the fact that they have experience & knowledge that you might not have - lists that you may not have, and they may be making huge sales - but they may not be making huge profits, they might be making a loss - and net profit is all that matters at the end of the day.

    What I would advise you to do, is to take stock of everything that you know, and decide on one system, and just stick to it. Don't look for any more new systems or products.

    And the way you feel right now - pretty much all web marketers have felt like that at some point. I have many, many times. Just keep on, believe in yourself, but don't allow yourself to keep being sold by new amazing looking systems.

    Good luck & I hope you feel better soon

    Cheers

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  • Profile picture of the author BradBergeron
    This is all a game of persistence and patience. I tried a method, I failed, I tweaked, I still failed, I tweaked again, I still failed, and etc... until I was out of tweaks for that method.

    I tried new ones doing the same thing until I finally came upon what makes me money today - Site Flipping (I have a free guide about it in my sig actually). It makes me about $200 a day w/o much work at all to be honest and now I'm outsourcing a lot of the work to the point where I just put together the puzzle with the pieces already formed for me and sell the site. It's not automatic or autopilot or anything, but it still isn't too much work and I'm happy with what I do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Janice Sperry
    Even the best methods don't work without some hard work, good timing, good fortune, and persistence. Even though there are some very specific things that help your Internet marketing it is still part art and part science. The Internet, Google, attitudes, trends, laws and so on are constantly changing. What is working great today may not be tomorrow. As an example a "choosing keywords expert" does not hit a homerun every time even if his data tells him he will. The key is to keep getting up to the plate until something is working and then run with it as long as you can.
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    • Profile picture of the author WilliamBerg
      Don´t feel bad. Most WSO are more or less crap and not worth the time it takes to read them, much less the money they cost. That does not mean that there aren´t some really good WSO out there as well.

      You should be vary of any offer that claim to make such and such much money each day. If the system was as effective as they claim they wouldn´t be selling it here for 20 USD. They would be hiring people to scale their concept.

      You have been offered some great advice. Mainly to forget about the get rich quick schemes and focus on an area and one plan. It can take some time before you get everything right. Don´t worry about exactly how much you make, Just try to make sure that each week is better than the week before and don´t focus on short lived fads.
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  • Profile picture of the author JennSpencerIM
    I have some stuff that hasn't made a dime but others are kicking! Depends on what you are doing to promote it, what your competition is doing, and if you are getting traffic that will convert to buyers and not just lookers!
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  • Profile picture of the author taylorwinfield4
    one of the main pieces of advice I could give you, is take a solid method and just keep applying it again and again, try and find your own ways to make it work if it does now. If you give every method one try and move onto the next one, the chances you will have success are extremely low!

    Preserver and you will prosper!
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  • Profile picture of the author adionline
    Don't let failure stop you from continuing your journey, eventually it leads to success. You just need to identify what is NOT working and approach things at different angles and refine your methods till they work. Emulate those who are doing it right and you will find success. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tooschee
    I will tell You something a little different:

    I You still fail and think that You never succes - maybe this isn't for You?

    Internet Marketing, coding, web design, owning a website are ways to make additional money, but if You don't have a "thing" for it maybe search fo something else.

    One is good at playing a guitar and can make a lot learning others what he can do, other is grat at creting traffic to newly build website, both have some perks that can be used to make money, but as You can see on totally different level.

    Look around You - try to think of something that You love to do and doing it makes You happy and maybe start there? For me it was designing, I tried to own a website, make a new content, but I discover I had more fun creating graphic elements that actually own a website and trying to make a buck with Adsense... I'm not sure if You'd understand what I'm trying to say, but most important thing is to not waste time on things that You don't really like
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  • Profile picture of the author Aussie_Striker
    It is easy to say that a WSO is not working when you do not get the result you expect.
    It is easy to look at people who say they are earning hundreds or thousands online and wonder if they are just talking themselves up to get people to follow them.
    It is easy to fail and give up.
    It is easy to think it is all just too hard and stying in the security of a job is much easier.
    It is easy to blame the tools and not the implementation.
    It is easy to say you did all you could when you know you could have done more.

    If Internet Marketing was all so easy to make money everyone would be doing it.
    Sometimes you need to dig deep and give a little more of yourself than you previously thought possible.
    It is those people that do that and keep picking themselves up from their failures that will eventually find success.

    That is my belief. Some will try, some will strive, some will dedicate themselves, some will not. All will have different results even with the same programs.

    For me I have only made money from some things. The most is from my middle sig.
    Still working on making enough to turf the job.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dean Jackson
    I didn't make a dime until I joined the War Room.

    Join it. Make money.

    No easier way to say it. There are some excellent posts here on the general forum, but honestly there is far, far too much information. In the War Room, you can pick up entire products, tools, and pretty much everything you need.

    And I hate to hype it up but I am only telling the truth. All you are really doing is promoting a product, whether your own or an affiliates.

    Don't buy into hype - As soon as you find something that works you better milk it like theres no tomorrow.

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