Using an image without breaking the copyright

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Delta223

How are you supposed to give credit to a source when using only their image on your website (let's assume the image is copyrighted)?

Is a link enough or does there need to be some sort of caption citing the source?

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Nope... You need to ask for permission... They can legally ask you to cease and desist showing the images...

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Tina Golden 14 years ago

And some places, such as Getty, can and will go after you for big bucks - and they'll win, too. Only use photos/images that you have full permission to use.

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Pedritospain 14 years ago

You should looking for copy left images. For example, in Flickr you can search by copy left images, in its search engine.
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Delta223

14 years ago

Obviously there is a way to do it without explicitly asking permission. Otherwise all image SERPs would be illegal.

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Jeff Henshaw 14 years ago

Obviously there is a way to do it without explicitly asking permission. Otherwise all image SERPs would be illegal.

All I would add is that if you are using images that you do not have permission to use (that is permission in writing, or a written license), then you are skating on thin ice.

If someone comes after you for damages, then IMHO you will have no defence (defense) in a court of law. This is not legal advice, but having studied law and worked in a legal environment for more than 30 years, please accept it in the spirit with which it is given.

Just my thoughts,

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Tina Golden

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Delta223

Obviously there is a way to do it without explicitly asking permission. Otherwise all image SERPs would be illegal.

Wrong. Google gets away with it only because it is an aggregator. Darling, you are not Google and Getty will eat you for breakfast. Trust us, we're trying to save you from some major expense and legal hassles down the road. Citation does not CYA.

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Delta223

14 years ago

Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises

Wrong. Google gets away with it only because it is an aggregator. Darling, you are not Google and Getty will eat you for breakfast. Trust us, we're trying to save you from some major expense and legal hassles down the road. Citation does not CYA.

Tina

Understand that it's not enough to tell me I'm wrong, give an anecdote about the Getty, and ask to trust you. Yes you're trying to help, but with no specific info I don't know if you're talking from knowledge or some fear induced herd mentality about the danger of using other people's images.

What everyone is telling you is correct. If you use copyrighted images without permission you can end up in deep and expensive legal trouble. That may not be the answer you want to hear, but that doesn't make it any less true.

You're using a mob mentality to justify your position.

I'm fine with hearing this won't work, but not when the guy next door is already doing it I need to understand what makes it ok for him.

As far as I can tell , there's no reason not to do the same as a google citation that points to the source and gives them credit (vague, possibly unfounded legal warnings in this thread aside).

Does anyone have a non-vague reason for why google can display images and another site can not?

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KirkMcD 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Delta223

Does anyone have a non-vague reason for why google can display images and another site can not?

Because google is only using thumbnails. They have been sued over it and won the lawsuit, but then again, they have billions in cash to pay their lawyers with.

You won't get the courtesy that google does.
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Tina Golden

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Delta223

Understand that it's not enough to tell me I'm wrong, give an anecdote about the Getty, and ask to trust you. Yes you're trying to help, but with no specific info I don't know if you're talking from knowledge or some fear induced herd mentality about the danger of using other people's images.

You want specific info, hire an attorney. Don't ask for legal advice on a public forum. I'm talking from specific knowledge but I really don't care if you believe me. It's not MY job to provide you with the specific section of the copyright law that backs up what I'm saying. So the next guy does it and it's fine - that just means he hasn't been caught yet. You want to risk your business and assets trying to cheap out and take the lazy route, be my guest. No skin off my nose.

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Dennis Gaskill

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Delta223

You're using a mob mentality to justify your position.

I'm fine with hearing this won't work, but not when the guy next door is already doing it I need to understand what makes it ok for him.

As far as I can tell , there's no reason not to do the same as a google citation that points to the source and gives them credit (vague, possibly unfounded legal warnings in this thread aside).

Does anyone have a non-vague reason for why google can display images and another site can not?

Mob mentality? My position? Good grief, try to help a guy and what do you get?

Go to the freaking US Copyright website and hunt for the damn answer yourself, or hire a lawyer. You ask for free advice, then respond to people like you're being attacked because you don't like the answers. Poor, poor you. Everyone is picking on you. Aw, gee.

Lots of people have been served cease and desist orders for using other people's images. Lots of people have been sued for it too. If you want to aggregate images from across the web, that's completely different from using one image or a few images. Google indexes all images it finds that aren't specifically prohibited, it doesn't just cherry pick images it wants to use.

Furthermore, by using a robots.txt file, Google and other search engines can be prevented from indexing images if you don't want them to. Do you offer that for your robot? I didn't think so.

Go ahead and do it, though. Just do it!

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tpw

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

Mob mentality? My position? Good grief, try to help a guy and what do you get?

Go to the freaking US Copyright website and hunt for the damn answer yourself, or hire a lawyer. You ask for free advice, then respond to people like you're being attacked because you don't like the answers. Poor, poor you. Everyone is picking on you. Aw, gee.

Lots of people have been served cease and desist orders for using other people's images. Lots of people have been sued for it too. If you want to aggregate images from across the web, that's completely different from using one image or a few images. Google indexes all images it finds that aren't specifically prohibited, it doesn't just cherry pick images it wants to use.

Furthermore, by using a robots.txt file, Google and other search engines can be prevented from indexing images if you don't want them to. Do you offer that for your robot? I didn't think so.

Go ahead and do it, though. Just do it!

I concur with Dennis...

I also know people who have received Cease and Desist orders, and I know people who have had $10,000 penalties (per infraction) levied against them, with a judge's signature, for using image content without the copyright holders permission...

If you don't want to hear people's opinions, don't ask for them...

If you want to take your chances that you won't get caught; grow some balls and roll the dice...

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E. Brian Rose

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Delta223

Understand that it's not enough to tell me I'm wrong, give an anecdote about the Getty, and ask to trust you. Yes you're trying to help, but with no specific info I don't know if you're talking from knowledge or some fear induced herd mentality about the danger of using other people's images.

You're using a mob mentality to justify your position.

I'm fine with hearing this won't work, but not when the guy next door is already doing it I need to understand what makes it ok for him.

As far as I can tell , there's no reason not to do the same as a google citation that points to the source and gives them credit (vague, possibly unfounded legal warnings in this thread aside).

Does anyone have a non-vague reason for why google can display images and another site can not?

OK, here you go...

A friend of mine and well known marketer had one of his staff create a new site. The staffer used two Getty images without permission. Getty filed a lawsuit against him for this site that wasn't even getting any traffic yet. They asked for the government prescribed punishment, which is HUGE. However, they were willing to settle out of court for $3500.

Do some Googling and you will find out just how viciously these companies protect their images. Here is an eye opener if you still think this is mob mentality: http://copyrightaction.com/forum/the...-sued-by-getty

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Gary King

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Delta223

Understand that it's not enough to tell me I'm wrong, give an anecdote about the Getty, and ask to trust you. Yes you're trying to help, but with no specific info I don't know if you're talking from knowledge or some fear induced herd mentality about the danger of using other people's images.

You're using a mob mentality to justify your position.

I'm fine with hearing this won't work, but not when the guy next door is already doing it I need to understand what makes it ok for him.

Do whatever the heck you want.

If your neighbor robs a bank, but you get busted doing it, you can't use the defense that your neighbor didn't get in trouble.

Since you want experience here, you've gotten some from E. Brian Rose.

I had a web site client that came to me after having a site designed by another company. I was hosting their site and doing updates for them.

They called me in a panic, because Getty had faxed them a letter demanding money. It was in excess of $4000 for *one* image.

Interestingly, they didn't know where their designer got the images or if they had rights to use them, so we were in the process of replacing them, and HAD ALREADY removed the image in question.

Getty did not care. They had a dated screen shot of the site with the image on it.

Final result: I negotiated to $1800+ on behalf of the client.
Other options: pay their legal firm at least that much to argue it.

Second case: company got my name from an existing client. I had never worked for this company, but they had received the dreaded letter as well. A design firm had used a web site template for their site. An image in that template was rights-managed (that means it costs a lot and costs a lot in penalties too!)

Getting was demanding in excess of $6,000, again, for one image. I don't know the outcome of that case since I was just offering advice to a friend of a client.

Why does Google get away with it? Probably because they are Google.

(presuming you're trying to do some sort of aggregation thing here, otherwise, if you're just putting a picture of a bulldog in a skirt on your web site, there's no comparison)

Each image (or at least each distributor of images) will have its own rules for use. Those that allow simply acknowledging their use will have specific guidelines. MANY of those do not allow commercial use (i.e., you can put it on your personal "look at me" website, but not anything for financial gain).

Hope it helps.

Gary

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Dennis Gaskill 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Delta223

Obviously there is a way to do it without explicitly asking permission. Otherwise all image SERPs would be illegal.

That's completely different. What everyone is telling you is correct. If you use copyrighted images without permission you can end up in deep and expensive legal trouble. That may not be the answer you want to hear, but that doesn't make it any less true.
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CDarklock 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Delta223

Obviously there is a way to do it without explicitly asking permission.

Yes. But you do not get to place images on your website without permission, even if you give credit, unless your website meets very specific and strict criteria.

Only a lawyer can tell you whether your site meets them, and even then all he can do is hazard an educated guess.
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- Sardent 14 years ago
  
  As photographer I can tell that if you feel the image is good enough to steal, the photographer feels it's good enough to protect and will do so.
  
  I regularly run searches of my most popular photos thru TinEye.
  Luckily I have never had to go beyond issuing a takedown request.
  
  Don't be a cheapskate. There are plenty of discount images available for a really reasonable cost...everywhere.
  Many times free. Although be careful, you must check the conditions of use for any image you purchase or obtain for free. Many do not allow commercial use.
  
  As for why you shouldn't, when the guy next door does?
  
  Because the guy next door, if he does so, is obviously a thief.
  
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  CDarklock 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Sardent
  
  There are plenty of discount images available for a really reasonable cost...everywhere. Many times free.
  
  stock.xchng - the leading free stock photography site is a great site.
  
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  Chris Grable 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Sardent
  
  ....I regularly run searches of my most popular photos thru TinEye.
  
  Now THAT... is a neat tool!
  
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  Sardent 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Chris Grable
  
  Now THAT... is a neat tool!
  
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  Not only is TinEye neat, but you can get it as a Firefox plugin. Then it's always just a right-click away.
  
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  Divya.sharma 14 years ago
  
  Is there any site other than Sxc.hu?? I need some images for commercial purpose, like creating video... Please advice
  
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  tsgeric 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Divya.sharma
  
  Is there any site other than Sxc.hu?? I need some images for commercial purpose, like creating video... Please advice
  
  I was researching this the other day with this so I'd be happy to share what my own impressions were.
  
  I thought iStockPhoto had the best (at least for what I was looking for) selection - this is purely my judgment based on how creative they were, how interesting, how varied the selection, etc. The smallest size picture size (good for a blog post) was 2 credits. If you're paying as you go, and paying in small batches (all these sites have the option to pay subscription fees which will give you access on a much larger scale), each credit is about $1.50, so that's $3 a picture.
  
  Then of course there is stock.xchng - the leading free stock photography site.
  "The leading FREE stock photo site". For what I was looking for, I couldn't find much, although I've certainly trolled there before.
  
  I also checked out Fotolia. Similar to iStockPhoto. In my own case I found the quality of the selection (as described above) to be just a tad lower. The smallest pictures are two credits, and the low-volume pay as you go price is about $1.15 a credit, so that's about $2.30 per image.
  
  My last stop was 123RF. I had never run across this one before but I am very glad I did. While the selection was not as good as iStockPhoto (again, for what I was looking for), it was still quite good. And, best of all, the smallest images were 1 credit, where each credit was $1. So, $1 an image, vs $3 an image. so, 123RF is now my favorite place for images.
  
  There's also Flickr, on which as a previous poster mentioned, you can search for stuff with Creative Commons License.
  
  All or most have photos, videos, etc. Some let you search by orientation. Some by #of people, demographics of people, etc. All have lightboxes/galleries but each treat this virtual concept differently.
  
  Hope this helps! What I would like to see is the Terms of Service for each for these, side by side, things like default permissions and attribution policies. Anybody know where to find this? Maybe this is a good research topic for another post!
  
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AndrewCavanagh 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Delta223

Obviously there is a way to do it without explicitly asking permission. Otherwise all image SERPs would be illegal.

No it's a breach of copyright to use someone else's image without permission...plain and simple.

Your observation is an interesting one and yes the use of those images in search engine results could actually be considered a breach of copyright if someone decided to take action (chances are they won't because the search engines send traffic to their site).

If you're looking for images you can use free search for royalty free, fee free images. There are plenty of sites providing them and they won't land you in legal hot water.

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cashcow

14 years ago

You can buy images from the stock photo sites usually for around $1 or try stock.xchng - the leading free stock photography site for free ones.

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14 years ago

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terrapurus

14 years ago

Firstly, all works are copyrighted. It just depends on what licence you have to use that piece of work on your site.

First, you can go to a stock photography site and use their work. Some will require you to pay a licence fee. Some will be free. What ever the case, respect the requirements imposed.

Next you have users who will impose creative commons licence. Flickr explains this far better than I ever could and you can read about this here -

Flickr: Creative Commons

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addice 14 years ago

Ok, what I usually do is that my < img src = " [will always be the image location of the originator]">, so I'm not sure if I've actually broke any laws. haha.
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- Ambius 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by addice
  
  Ok, what I usually do is that my < img src = " [will always be the image location of the originator]">, so I'm not sure if I've actually broke any laws. haha.
  
  IMO that is worse than stealing the image because you are also stealing their server's bandwidth, which slows down their site and potentially costs them extra money.
  
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tpw

14 years ago

Pay the fees requested by the copyright holder to be able to use the image on your website...

If you know who the copyright holder is, you may contact them and ask what there Terms of Use are in conjunction with the image... Some may permit you to publish the image with a link, while others would require some form of payment...

Always know the facts before you use the image... And always honor the Terms of Use as defined by the copyright holder, or risk a hefty lawsuit...

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Barry Unruh

14 years ago

Copyright - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

U.S. Copyright Office - Can I Use Someone Else's Work? Can Someone Else Use Mine? (FAQ)

Or ask your attorney....

No herd mentality, no personal opinion, just the facts as you should be seeing them.

(But FYI, the "herd mentality" on the WF hit it on the head.)

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Dan C. Rinnert

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Delta223

How are you supposed to give credit to a source when using only their image on your website (let's assume the image is copyrighted)?

Is a link enough or does there need to be some sort of caption citing the source?

Depends.

In some cases, a credit is fairly simple:

Photographer Name / Source

But it really depends on the agreement with whoever you're obtaining permission from. Some of the free photo sites will require a link back to them. With the paid photo sites, their license agreement will cover that. Often the paid ones don't require a link, but they will require something like "Photographer Name / Source". They may even request that a copyright notice be placed with it.

Some will want the credit listed right with the photo; others are fine so long as you include it on the page.

If the photo is from a blogger or other small website, their requirements may vary too.

Best thing to do is ask the source if you're unsure or if their website doesn't provide that information.

But, if you are looking to use copyrighted images without permission, you're asking for trouble.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Delta223

Understand that it's not enough to tell me I'm wrong, give an anecdote about the Getty, and ask to trust you. Yes you're trying to help, but with no specific info I don't know if you're talking from knowledge or some fear induced herd mentality about the danger of using other people's images.

You're using a mob mentality to justify your position.

I'm fine with hearing this won't work, but not when the guy next door is already doing it I need to understand what makes it ok for him.

As far as I can tell , there's no reason not to do the same as a google citation that points to the source and gives them credit (vague, possibly unfounded legal warnings in this thread aside).

Does anyone have a non-vague reason for why google can display images and another site can not?

You asked for advice and you got it. It's not what you want to hear so just go ahead and do whatever you want. Maybe you'll get lucky and steal photos from someone that does not have the time or resources to do anything about it.

Just because you see someone else doing it, doesn't make it okay. Using someone else's images on your site without permission is illegal.

The people in this thread are trying to help you, it is your choice to either listen or ignore them.

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JohnMcCabe

14 years ago

Originally Posted by addice

Ok, what I usually do is that my < img src = " [will always be the image location of the originator]">, so I'm not sure if I've actually broke any laws. haha.

Keep laughing...

Now you can add stealing bandwidth to copyright infringement. The lawyers call it something more grand than "stealing bandwidth" but hot-linking images without permission is exactly that.

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kindsvater

14 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

Now you can add stealing bandwidth to copyright infringement. The lawyers call it something more grand than "stealing bandwidth" but hot-linking images without permission is exactly that.

John, it has admittedly been a while since I looked at the image copyright case that Google won, but my recollection is this is one of the arguments Google had in its favor.

That and using thumbnails, creating a new and valuable tool for people to use, and not profiting from the thumbnails.

(A couple years after Google won the case it started added Adsense ads to its image pages. So don't assume that just because you see Google doing something now you can too, because Google could lose the next case that comes along due to the advertising. And, whatever your use of the pictures is, it probably is not as beneficial to society as what Google is doing.)

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zeropower

14 years ago

Can I know what will happen If I don't take a permission from the owner of the photo ?
And Is that include the images that are brought by google ?

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Mattiyu 14 years ago

Consulting a copyright Lawyer to get professional legal advice maybe you next course of action.

Hearing the law concerning your question from one who is qualified to give legal advice is what I would do.

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JohnMcCabe

14 years ago

Originally Posted by zeropower

Can I know what will happen If I don't take a permission from the owner of the photo ?
And Is that include the images that are brought by google ?

If the owner of the image has a problem with you using them, the best case is you get a C&D letter and you have to take them down.

Worst case is you get sued, and end up owing your future to the image owner and their lawyers and your lawyers.

Yes, that does include images brought up in a Google search.

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Dan C. Rinnert 14 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

Worst case is you get sued, and end up owing your future to the image owner and their lawyers and your lawyers.

It's also important to bear in mind that, in the U.S., statutory damages for copyright infringement on works with a registered copyright start at somewhere between $25,000 and $50,000. Actual damages, attorney's fees, etc. may be added on top of that.
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

Originally Posted by zeropower

Can I know what will happen If I don't take a permission from the owner of the photo ?
And Is that include the images that are brought by google ?

If the owner of the image has a problem with you using them, the best case is you get a C&D letter and you have to take them down.

Worst case is you get sued, and end up owing your future to the image owner and their lawyers and your lawyers.

Yes, that does include images brought up in a Google search.

If you had actually read this thread, I am surprised that you would ask that question ZeroPower...

Penalties of $10,000 can be levied per infraction...

Your chances of getting caught are actually higher than your chances of winning the lottery...

The major image companies have software that they run to track down those photos that they own that the licensing fees have not been paid on... They are always spidering the Internet looking for stolen image content...

I get my images from Fotolio, and the cost is usually $1-$3 per image... Three dollars for an image that could cost you $10,000, or three lottery tickets that could win you $10,000... It is your gamble... But I would prefer to gamble my future on a lottery ticket rather than stolen content...

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zeropower

14 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

If the owner of the image has a problem with you using them, the best case is you get a C&D letter and you have to take them down.

Worst case is you get sued, and end up owing your future to the image owner and their lawyers and your lawyers.

Yes, that does include images brought up in a Google search.

Originally Posted by tpw

If you had actually read this thread, I am surprised that you would ask that question ZeroPower...

Penalties of $10,000 can be levied per infraction...

Your chances of getting caught are actually higher than your chances of winning the lottery...

The major image companies have software that they run to track down those photos that they own that the licensing fees have not been paid on... They are always spidering the Internet looking for stolen image content...

I get my images from Fotolio, and the cost is usually $1-$3 per image... Three dollars for an image that could cost you $10,000, or three lottery tickets that could win you $10,000... It is your gamble... But I would prefer to gamble my future on a lottery ticket rather than stolen content...

LOL , you both frightened me

I wasn't thinking like that at all

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SteveJohnson

14 years ago

"I want to use someone's copyrighted image on my own site. I don't have permission. How can I do that?"

You can't. You don't own the image, you don't own the copyright. You have no right to use the image. Whoever DOES own it can sue you. Beyond that, it's wrong - it doesn't belong to you.

"Whatever."

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dremora

14 years ago

You can always use the stock photos and royalty free image sites. Plenty of those, some free, some charge a small fee per image or a monthly membership fees.

You are better off using such images than someone else's work.

Or you can head to fiverr, spend a few bucks and have some original graphics/logos designed for you.

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Raz IM 14 years ago

I find the best way to find good quality images to use without getting in trouble is to go to flickr.com and get Creative Commons images.

Here are the exact steps:

Step 1. Go to flickr.com

Step 2. Go to its advanced search. A quick way to do it from the home page is to leave the search box blank and click the Search button. This will take you to another search page and an advanced search link will now be available to the right of the search button. Click this link.

Step 3. Fill in the keywords you are searching for in the search for textbox. I usually leave the default of "All of these words" and "Full text" but feel free to experiment based on the results you get.

The most important step now is to go to the bottom of the page to the Creative Commons section (Google "Creative Commons" to find out more about it). Select the "Only search within Creative Commons-licensed content" checkbox and then select the "Find content to use commercially" checkbox.

Step 4. You will now see many images displayed in the results. The default sort will be "Relevant". To get the best quality images, you need to change the default to "Interesting". Flickr has an algorithm that tends to put images of better quality in the interesting pile.

Step 5. Take a screen capture of the image on the image detail page and save this image to your computer. Also, make a note of the url of the webpage.

Step 6. Embed the image onto your blog/website and put the url of the flickr webpage you got it from somewhere in your article.

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I have a blog post on one of my blogs that list about 100 images on a certain topic and it is the biggest adsense moneymaker for me and ranks very high on Google.

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- JohnMcCabe 14 years ago
  
  Raz, I do this a lot, but I didn't think to change the sort. Nice tip...
  
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  mcmahanusa 14 years ago
  
  You've gotten some nice, helpful replies here. There are inexpensive ways that will allow you to achieve your goals and not run any risk of expensive litigation that can not only ruin you financially, but destroy your business and your reputation.
  
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  Raz IM 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe
  
  Raz, I do this a lot, but I didn't think to change the sort. Nice tip...
  
  Hey John, the "interesting" sort is the most important step to get the best images on flickr.
  
  Glad the tip helped.
  
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Michael Oksa

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Delta223

How are you supposed to give credit to a source when using only their image on your website (let's assume the image is copyrighted)?

Is a link enough or does there need to be some sort of caption citing the source?

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Hi Delta,

I don't know why everybody is giving you such a hard time. I think it's because they don't want you to know the secret to proper citation.

Simply take any photo you like and add this exact caption underneath it...

ITIOTLIAVE

That should take care of everything. You can also put that text in the same color as the background, that way it won't look so bad. In fact, you will notice a lot of website owners disguise this citation. To check for yourself, just do a CTRL + F search for "ITIOTLIAVE" on a few pages. You'll be surprised at what you find.

Geez people, lighten up!

All the best,
Michael

p.s. Congrats on finding this! Oh, I just answered in the way the OP wanted to hear. He obviously didn't want to hear the truth. By the way...

ITIOTLIAVE = I Think Ignorance Of The Law Is A Valid Excuse

I wonder if the OP is still trying to find where we are all using it.

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Don Schenk

14 years ago

Well Mr (or Ms) Delta,

I owned a photography studio for 38 years before retiring and selling the business to one of my employees. I have a lot of knowledge about the industry.

Photographers have professional trade associations with teams of lawyers who go after people who just "use" a member's images. The settlements I have heard about have all been well into 6 figures.

Can you afford that? No? Then don't even think about using someone's photo without paying for the rights.

You asked, and now you don't like the answers. That's bad sport.

:-Don

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scortillion

14 years ago

You can put your copyright worries to rest.

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that not allow you to use the images without lables
but allow you to resell the photos with their resale rights
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evanlambda

14 years ago

This is the Internet, just use it until they send you a C&D

. A backlink back to the original site would placate most webmasters anyway.

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Tina Golden

14 years ago

Originally Posted by evanlambda

This is the Internet, just use it until they send you a C&D

. A backlink back to the original site would placate most webmasters anyway.

And they wonder why this industry has a bad name...:rolleyes:

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evanlambda

14 years ago

Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises

And they wonder why this industry has a bad name...:rolleyes:

Tina

Could have more to do with people slinging low quality ebooks, spamming any site that allows user content, autoposters, spam, etc.

But you're right, its probably the images.

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SteveJohnson

14 years ago

Originally Posted by evanlambda

Could have more to do with people slinging low quality ebooks, spamming any site that allows user content, autoposters, spam, etc.

But you're right, its probably the images.

You get your hand slapped for suggesting something unethical and all you can think of to do is to come back with an insult? Grow up.

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Kay King 14 years ago

Tina -

Apparently doesn't know that with images you may get a big invoice for the use of the image instead of a C&D. Oops.

"Somebody on a forum told me it was OK" doesn't hold up well in court last I heard. The problem with living on the edge is the 50% chance of falling into the void.

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- tsgeric 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Kay King
  
  The problem with living on the edge is the 50% chance of falling into the void.
  
  Or, maybe a 100% chance of falling in the void eventually
  
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  Kay King 14 years ago
  
  Very true about the 100%.
  
  I make light of it because I think it's a ridiculous argument. The list of sites above is a good one - and you can buy the use of a great image so cheaply it's not worth risking your financial security just for a plagiarized image.
  
  Pay a few bucks - avoid a potentially huge fine. No-brainer to me.
  
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  Using copyrighted material without permission is a sure way to end your business.
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Tina Golden

14 years ago

Originally Posted by evanlambda

Could have more to do with people slinging low quality ebooks, spamming any site that allows user content, autoposters, spam, etc.

But you're right, its probably the images.

Actually I wasn't referring to the images. I was referring to the attitude. That same attitude you exhibit in your post is the attitude that creates all those other blackmarks that you mention. And it's just as crappy in you as it is in the others.

Tina

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newtoebookswriting

14 years ago

morgue file has a great collection of stock photos that anybody can use for any purposes with out breaking any copyright laws

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Kurt

14 years ago

Instead of playing lawyer, here's the solution:

In order:

1. Go to www.Allposters.com and sign up for a free affiliate account. They have tons of posters you can put on your site and not worry about copyright law. And, you can even get paid if someone buys a poster.

2. If a poster isn't appropriate, go to www.Morguefile.com . They have the most liberal usage license of any site and you can use the images commercially, without attribution.

3. See if there's a video on youtube that can take the place of an image.

4. If those fail, buy a cheap stock image at a place like istockphoto.com for a buck or two.

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Tommy Perez 14 years ago

I would stick with iStockPhoto...they have a LOT of great images which I'm sure will suit your needs! I use them myself and they're awesome.
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