by Joe118
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I'm not making this thread to brag, although I feel pretty darn good about it

Yes, I broke the $10K/mo ceiling for the first time in August. I started marketing here on WF in earnest in January 2010, so it's taken 9 months to get this far. And of course I'm nowhere near sustainable reliable can-count-on-it $10K/mo.

The lessons learnt:
  • Provide value
  • Price it right -- sometimes more is better
  • Love your customers to death
  • Polite, polite, polite -- even though some customers are clearly missives from hell, keep your cool
  • The money *IS* in the list, if you treat the list right
  • JV's and collaborations -- the ticket to growth
  • The biggest lesson of all -- YOU CAN DO IT!
My next goal is $10K/mo reliable.
#$10k or mo
  • Profile picture of the author mnonline
    congratulation! Keep it up and aim higher
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  • Profile picture of the author imguru
    Congratulations! The biggest constraint to earning as much as you want, may it be $10k a month, or whatever is your goal, is your beliefs. $10k a month is a lot for a "normal job" but it's very realistically attainable in IM. But if you don't see yourself there, and don't believe it's possible, it will never happen
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    • Profile picture of the author FredJones
      Good Joe - congrats. I have always loved your War Room contributions too.

      Thanks for sharing your motto and primary thoughts.

      How did you mainly achieve it? Creating products and running JV with other partners, or using your list to JV with other people's product launches?

      If they were your products, did you launch only with JV partners, or on other places such as Clickbank, Warrior Forum etc?

      Did your WSOs have a significant role to play? If so, how?
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      • Profile picture of the author Joe118
        Great questions, Fred, and also thanks for the kind encouragement!

        First of all the entire income is from WSOs. I still have not done a lot of marketing outside of WF. So that's a big lesson in itself -- you can hit $10K/mo with a couple successful WSOS

        Second, my biggest and most constant success is via the backlink packets. It's a continuity program for just $10/mo and has an incredible 70% retention at 6mo. It still, after 9 months, provides a steady $3K/mo.

        I did a lot of cross promotion, but only with people whose products I trust and like -- Muz Azar, Dave Seisner, SMS, and a few others.

        I built a list of 3500 subscribers so far, neatly segmented into paying customers (per product) and freebie seekers. I email them every time I do a WSO and response has been awesome. My friends also email and their lists have been very responsive to my products so far.

        Apart from the backlink packets, I concentrate on building software that solves problems people hit daily. My latest WSO is an example of such a problem, how to find keywords that people are looking for when in a buying mind frame.

        And the clincher -- just to show how totally naive I am (still) -- I only now am setting up an affiliate program with e-junkie. All my preceding sales to date were made on word of mouth, cross promotion, and friendship. An affiliate program for one's products is absolutely a must and how I plan to reach my $10K/mo predictable income goal.

        The best affiliates you can have are your paying customers. Just a hint

        Originally Posted by FredJones View Post

        Good Joe - congrats. I have always loved your War Room contributions too.

        Thanks for sharing your motto and primary thoughts.

        How did you mainly achieve it? Creating products and running JV with other partners, or using your list to JV with other people's product launches?

        If they were your products, did you launch only with JV partners, or on other places such as Clickbank, Warrior Forum etc?

        Did your WSOs have a significant role to play? If so, how?
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        • Profile picture of the author FredJones
          Thanks Joe, tremendous post. Yes, I had purchased a WSO from you and without going into any details let me just say that I thought that one was very nice .

          I completely agree - if you own your own products then it is affiliates that can skyrocket your income. Let the marketers combine hands and market (your product) rather than you doing it alone.

          Another point here - if you still accept payments by only Paypal and want to scale in a manner that burst sales in short spans are a part of it (such as some big and responsive list owner sending an email to his/her list with your product and that convert high, or a webinar that generates a number of sales on the spot) then it is critical that you look at a proper merchant system rather than Paypal-like systems (that are semi-baked in my opinion when it comes to providing end-to-end business solutions in scenarios like ours) - Paypal can be a nightmare to promise the least. Trust me, it will help you in the longer run.

          Originally Posted by Joe118 View Post

          Great questions, Fred, and also thanks for the kind encouragement!

          First of all the entire income is from WSOs. I still have not done a lot of marketing outside of WF. So that's a big lesson in itself -- you can hit $10K/mo with a couple successful WSOS

          Second, my biggest and most constant success is via the backlink packets. It's a continuity program for just $10/mo and has an incredible 70% retention at 6mo. It still, after 9 months, provides a steady $3K/mo.

          I did a lot of cross promotion, but only with people whose products I trust and like -- Muz Azar, Dave Seisner, SMS, and a few others.

          I built a list of 3500 subscribers so far, neatly segmented into paying customers (per product) and freebie seekers. I email them every time I do a WSO and response has been awesome. My friends also email and their lists have been very responsive to my products so far.

          Apart from the backlink packets, I concentrate on building software that solves problems people hit daily. My latest WSO is an example of such a problem, how to find keywords that people are looking for when in a buying mind frame.

          And the clincher -- just to show how totally naive I am (still) -- I only now am setting up an affiliate program with e-junkie. All my preceding sales to date were made on word of mouth, cross promotion, and friendship. An affiliate program for one's products is absolutely a must and how I plan to reach my $10K/mo predictable income goal.

          The best affiliates you can have are your paying customers. Just a hint
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  • Profile picture of the author MilesT
    Joe, dude, that rawks. Thanks for the inspiration and words of wisdom. I'm not near that point yet but things are getting better so I'm stoked! Keep going!
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Originally Posted by MilesT View Post

      Joe, dude, that rawks. Thanks for the inspiration and words of wisdom. I'm not near that point yet but things are getting better so I'm stoked! Keep going!
      Like the poster above you says, "VISUALIZE" the goal, believe it, live it.

      That's the key.

      Miles, here's a personal for you: YOU CAN DO IT!

      And I'll even help you -- if you need anything, drop me a line.
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  • Profile picture of the author dmacgibbon
    Cool, Im still at zero level and can make my 1st sale online, hope I will be able to make 10k a month soon so I can quit my daily job. Thanks for your info
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  • Profile picture of the author CMCarlin
    Gratz Joe! I've always like your stuff, so keep up the good work!
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  • Profile picture of the author diggo
    Good job Joe! Consistency is the key. As you know, $10k one month can turn into $1k the next. Unfortunately I know all to well about this..

    I don't normally count how much I make each month, but this thread encouraged me to do so. I looked back to my best month, April this year. After the calculator went rat-a-tat-tat, I came up with some figures that really surprised me..

    Revenue - $51,531
    Costs - $26,045

    Profit - $25,486

    In August.. I barely did $1k Not to worry, I don't think it will be hard to get back to $20k+

    Good luck!
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  • Originally Posted by Joe118 View Post

    The lessons learnt:
    • Provide value
    • Price it right -- sometimes more is better
    • Love your customers to death
    • Polite, polite, polite -- even though some customers are clearly missives from hell, keep your cool
    • The money *IS* in the list, if you treat the list right
    • JV's and collaborations -- the ticket to growth
    • The biggest lesson of all -- YOU CAN DO IT!.
    I had been doing $10k a month for over a year but I was not able to push my income any further... until I broke into JV'ing with partners. The first month I started doing JVs with other marketers, those 10k transformed into 30k to 40k almost instantly, and it's stayed there ever since.

    Conclusion: there comes a point when the only way to grow is sheer expansion, and that's where JVs come in play.
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  • Profile picture of the author Will Edwards
    Well done Joe - some good info you gave there too.

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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    I just crossed the 7k mark last month

    I'm getting at 10k too

    I just love the feeling.
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    • Profile picture of the author Hanz
      Originally Posted by Mohammad Afaq View Post

      I just crossed the 7k mark last month

      I'm getting at 10k too

      I just love the feeling.
      Was 7K your actual profit, Mohammad?
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      • Profile picture of the author jtpada
        Hi Joe,

        bought a software from you lately and gotta say that what you offer is worth its buck. Hands down. In my book you so deserve every cent you make .... and more!

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        • Profile picture of the author Joe118
          Originally Posted by jtpada View Post

          Hi Joe,

          bought a software from you lately and gotta say that what you offer is worth its buck. Hands down. In my book you so deserve every cent you make .... and more!

          Thanks for saying that, and thanks for MEANING that! Appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author maclustig
    Congratulations! I had my fair share of earning almost the same figure last year.
    Perseverance and hard work really pays off.
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  • Profile picture of the author FiveMe
    This is very inspiring and I wish you the best in scaling..
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  • Profile picture of the author Super Affiliate
    Awesome! So tell us, Joe. Was your primary income from WSOs or doing something else?
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Originally Posted by Super Affiliate View Post

      Awesome! So tell us, Joe. Was your primary income from WSOs or doing something else?
      It's *all* from WSOs. The key was to create a WSO that led to a continuity program.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raz IM
    Congrats, Joe.

    That is actually my 1 year goal as I hope to make that come Sep 2011. Your post have shown me that it is possible.

    Thanks for the helpful tips too :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Vicky K
      Wow, congrats! And thanks for sharing your "secrets"
      Next thing you know you'll be making millions. Work does pay of in the end.
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  • Profile picture of the author FrankieTP2
    Big congrats! I'm working hard to make that possible for me too!
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  • Profile picture of the author Hoopatang
    CONGRATS Joe!!

    "even though some customers are clearly missives from hell, keep your cool"
    Hehehe... that was worth clicking into the thread all on its own
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  • Profile picture of the author TyBrown
    Originally Posted by Joe118 View Post

    I'm not making this thread to brag, although I feel pretty darn good about it

    Yes, I broke the $10K/mo ceiling for the first time in August. I started marketing here on WF in earnest in January 2010, so it's taken 9 months to get this far. And of course I'm nowhere near sustainable reliable can-count-on-it $10K/mo.

    The lessons learnt:
    • Provide value
    • Price it right -- sometimes more is better
    • Love your customers to death
    • Polite, polite, polite -- even though some customers are clearly missives from hell, keep your cool
    • The money *IS* in the list, if you treat the list right
    • JV's and collaborations -- the ticket to growth
    • The biggest lesson of all -- YOU CAN DO IT!
    My next goal is $10K/mo reliable.
    Great post. I struggle with being polite to customers that are outright wrong and rude about it. How do you keep your cool?

    I have to have my VA deal with most of it because I suck at customer service.
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  • Profile picture of the author vpgemini
    That is outstanding news Joe! The lessons you stated that you learned are all very important ones and providing genuine value is totally key in the realm of internet marketing.

    I still remember getting my first clickbank check and it was such a great feeling that all the work I was doing was paying off.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Ratliff
    Hats off to you Joe, congratulations. Feels good duddn' it?
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    • Profile picture of the author Sardent
      Question - what kind of time are you putting in per day/week to achieve these results?
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      • Profile picture of the author Joe118
        Originally Posted by Sardent View Post

        Question - what kind of time are you putting in per day/week to achieve these results?
        I have a day job of 200hr/mo. I put in about 90hr/mo into the internet marketing. So hour for hour, the IM work is more profitable

        Once I go full time, kicking the "salary habit" so to speak (and it's when not if) I can see how to do 20K, 30K, maybe even more, per month.
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        • Profile picture of the author Conrad Stuart
          Originally Posted by Joe118 View Post

          I have a day job of 200hr/mo. I put in about 90hr/mo into the internet marketing. So hour for hour, the IM work is more profitable

          Once I go full time, kicking the "salary habit" so to speak (and it's when not if) I can see how to do 20K, 30K, maybe even more, per month.
          70+ hrs a week, really? I envy all you productivity powerhouses, I'm lucky if I can get myself to put in 55 hrs a week total
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Originally Posted by Joseph Ratliff View Post

      Hats off to you Joe, congratulations. Feels good duddn' it?
      :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    Originally Posted by Joe118 View Post


    The lessons learnt:
    • Provide value
    • Price it right -- sometimes more is better
    • Love your customers to death
    • Polite, polite, polite -- even though some customers are clearly missives from hell, keep your cool
    • The biggest lesson of all -- YOU CAN DO IT!
    My next goal is $10K/mo reliable.
    I can definitely empathize with you regarding customers from hell, you do get some really crazy and unreasonable ones in the offline world especially - the customer is always king, up to a certain (extreme) point when it's just not worth dealing with them anymore!
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

      I can definitely empathize with you regarding customers from hell, you do get some really crazy and unreasonable ones in the offline world especially - the customer is always king, up to a certain (extreme) point when it's just not worth dealing with them anymore!
      Yes, I've reached the point of cutting off customers a few times:

      * The idiots that think that they've got a monopoly on your time because they paid you $17,
      * The impatients that want a reply as soon as they hit SEND and don't accept that you have a life,
      * The infinite questioners that send you a new question immediately when you reply to their latest one,
      * The nincompoops that think that if a product doesn't work it's a conspiracy to steal their money and you have it in for them personally,
      * The conspiracy theorists that think that every testimonial is fake,

      and of course everyone's all time favorites

      * The serial refunders-and-keepers that use the slightest excuse to ask for a refund


      Etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author michael_dans
    Originally Posted by Joe118 View Post

    I'm not making this thread to brag, although I feel pretty darn good about it

    Yes, I broke the $10K/mo ceiling for the first time in August. I started marketing here on WF in earnest in January 2010, so it's taken 9 months to get this far. And of course I'm nowhere near sustainable reliable can-count-on-it $10K/mo.

    The lessons learnt:
    • Provide value
    • Price it right -- sometimes more is better
    • Love your customers to death
    • Polite, polite, polite -- even though some customers are clearly missives from hell, keep your cool
    • The money *IS* in the list, if you treat the list right
    • JV's and collaborations -- the ticket to growth
    • The biggest lesson of all -- YOU CAN DO IT!
    My next goal is $10K/mo reliable.

    Congratzz dude, you did it once that means that you can always do it. Just have that confidence in you and believe in you. I am new to IM and to warrior forum and I don't know how to make even $100 in a month. Please help me out to earn some money online.
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  • Profile picture of the author good2go4
    Wow that is awesome - well done!! and once you have done it once then doing it again will be a lot easier - thanks too for sharing how you did this - will have to get over my nervousness of doing a WSO - I could be missing out on some really good income.

    All the best for your stable financial future
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  • Profile picture of the author mnonline
    Lots of experienced marketers can obtain this type of income easily Don't say that it's not realistic. Wait until you reach that level
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    • Profile picture of the author Loloy Diango
      Man, that is awesome! Congratulations! Thank you for sharing your experience, you definitely inspire me and a lot more people.

      Keep rockin', my friend!
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      • Profile picture of the author Retta
        Well, thanks for the inspiration Joe. I hope I can figure it out soon, but I sometimes feel like I must have a bag over my head or something.
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        • Profile picture of the author Matt Morgan
          Congrats Joe.

          Keep working to climb higher and higher the profit ladder!

          I Remember my $10k months, I took ages to actually decide to do with the money!

          I bought myself a few treats though!
          - You have to though, to reward yourself.

          Don't you agree?
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          • Profile picture of the author richgrad
            Originally Posted by Matt Morgan View Post

            Congrats Joe.

            Keep working to climb higher and higher the profit ladder!

            I Remember my $10k months, I took ages to actually decide to do with the money!

            I bought myself a few treats though!
            - You have to though, to reward yourself.

            Don't you agree?
            Lol I put almost all of it into stocks =P Lucky the dow is not going dowN anymore...
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          • Profile picture of the author John Durham
            Originally Posted by Matt Morgan View Post

            Congrats Joe.
            I Remember my $10k months, I took ages to actually decide to do with the money!
            Wow... wish I didnt know what to do with 10k. Have had plenty of 10k months, but theres always more to do with it by the time it arrives... thats my next goal to have 10k and not know what to do with it! You are my hero man!

            Joe excellent post and congratulations on your success, you do absolutely deserve it!

            Keep Rocking!

            Originally Posted by Mike Morgan. View Post

            Cogratulation! Good work .

            If you have determination , I belive you can even make 100,000+ Per month . But , every thing is a process . So , keep doing , word smart and hard .

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            Beautiful Thought. Time to put the next zero behind our thinking!
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            • Profile picture of the author Joe118
              Thanks John (and everyone)

              I can tell you that the 10K month was a sea change for me -- when I actually *knew* I could do it. And then I sat down and developed a realistic plan on how to do it again and again, and how to get to whatever next goal I set myself.

              Now I know I can do it, I know *how* I can do it, and I know how much hard work I need to do to do it (hint: lots ).

              Even though there's hard work ahead, it all looks very easy since it's clear to me what each step's purpose is and what the effect will be on my success.

              And that's so super motivating that I've actually set myself a crazy goal -- kick the "salary habit" by July 2011 by replacing my (very considerable -- I'm a lucky dood) salary.

              I'll be keeping this thread alive with updates, so that you can all share in the successes and inevitable setbacks I'll experience along the way.

              LETS DO IT!
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  • Good for you Joe, continue the good work... I wish you all the best and hope you'll achive your next goal, $10K/mo reliable...
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  • Profile picture of the author richgrad
    Congrats... I remember my first $10k month... Sept 2008... It was awesomeeeeeeee... the best part was showing my mom the check and seeing the look on her face haha...

    Welcome to the club =)
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  • Profile picture of the author 12Magazine
    wow I wish one day it will happened !!! 10K per month wow!
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    • Profile picture of the author sonamlama
      Congrats Joe!

      $10k per month is friggin' awesome! I'm very inspired by your achievement.

      I was just curious, what traffic generation method are you using that has been the most effective and profitable for you?

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      • Profile picture of the author Joe118
        Originally Posted by sonamlama View Post

        Congrats Joe!

        $10k per month is friggin' awesome! I'm very inspired by your achievement.

        I was just curious, what traffic generation method are you using that has been the most effective and profitable for you?

        Sonam
        Hi Sonam

        I think its a bit different than you imply in your question. There's no one thing that's most effective. Rather, you have to (be lucky and) apply the right tool at the right time.

        What I mean is that you have to build a list, then use the list to create JVs, then use the JVs to get a bigger list, and so on and so forth. Each stage is a step to the next one, it seems to never end. Don't get discouraged when you cannot see what to do next, it's not necessary to always get it right and there's certainly more than one "right" way

        The best source of traffic is my list. My list came from JVs and from the warrior forum. Other people were generous enough to do JVs with me on a barter basis, I promote their product and they promote mine. So that way I get traffic and new members on my list, from fresh lists which often have very little overlap with the list I have. That's how you grow

        Hope I answered the question.

        Oh and I never ever ever pay directly for traffic. I'm willing to pay affiliate commissions, no problem, because the incentive structure is set up right (they only get paid if I get paid), not so with traffic you have to pay for directly.
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        • Profile picture of the author sonamlama
          Originally Posted by Joe118 View Post

          The best source of traffic is my list. My list came from JVs and from the warrior forum. Other people were generous enough to do JVs with me on a barter basis, I promote their product and they promote mine. So that way I get traffic and new members on my list, from fresh lists which often have very little overlap with the list I have. That's how you grow
          So warriors, you heard it straight from the Horses' mouth, A.K.A Joe the $10K/month Guy! ...

          "The best source of traffic is my list. My list came from JVs and from the warrior forum."

          So if you're struggling to get traffic and have been desperately hoping to get the chance to ask someone who is making a full time income online then look no further than your own list or start becoming hyper-active on the warrior forum if you have no list to start building relationships/future JV's/generating leads.

          Thanks again Joe. Your advice has offered me some golden nuggets that I and my fellow warriors (I hope) will apply immediately.

          Let us know when you get to that $10K a month reliable.

          Sonam
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    Freakin awesome man. Good stuff.
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    Wow, Congrats Joe! 10k a month must be awesome. I remember when i had the first sale i was freakin' happy. But this must feel way more awesome.

    Be helpful, be reasonable and treat people the way you want to be treated. By helping others we can achieve more

    Thanks, for your given lessons Good luck on your next goal!
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    • Profile picture of the author apatra
      10k a month is very possible mostly in IM business
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      congratulation for making it this far.you have given us motivation and inspiration,thankyou
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      Congrats JOE! I wish 2 be popping a bottle of Cham... once I get to that level, O yea, and touche what lady Nana said just above me.. .... lemme kno u taking apprentices...








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    • Profile picture of the author sonamlama
      Hi Sonam

      I think its a bit different than you imply in your question. There's no one thing that's most effective. Rather, you have to (be lucky and) apply the right tool at the right time.

      What I mean is that you have to build a list, then use the list to create JVs, then use the JVs to get a bigger list, and so on and so forth. Each stage is a step to the next one, it seems to never end. Don't get discouraged when you cannot see what to do next, it's not necessary to always get it right and there's certainly more than one "right" way

      The best source of traffic is my list. My list came from JVs and from the warrior forum. Other people were generous enough to do JVs with me on a barter basis, I promote their product and they promote mine. So that way I get traffic and new members on my list, from fresh lists which often have very little overlap with the list I have. That's how you grow.

      Hope I answered the question.

      Oh and I never ever ever pay directly for traffic. I'm willing to pay affiliate commissions, no problem, because the incentive structure is set up right (they only get paid if I get paid), not so with traffic you have to pay for directly.

      Wow thanks for such a precise and helpful explanation of the process you've gone through to achieve your $10,000 mark Joe.

      I'm currently building my list in the internet marketing niche right now and also have an already established list of 60 people in my other niche outside of internet marketing.

      I am working my butt off trying to get traffic to my website, since I've learned from experience that traffic is the lifeblood of any business.

      However, I hope to VERY SOON be able to do some JV's like you have in order to rapidly grow my list.

      But I suppose I would need a list of over 500 in order to be able to do a JV.

      In any case, I'm glad that you said that your "list" has been your best source of traffic as I am already in the phase of building my list right now.

      Thanks again for your honest and thoughtful advice Joe.

      Let us know when you hit that "10k/month reliable". We'll all throw a cyberspace party for you here on the forum!

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    • Profile picture of the author Cris Stylez
      Congrats. I love to read success stories. I find them very refreshing and extremely motivating.

      I am not near the 10k mark at yet, but i will be. Everytime i read a new story it puts a big smile on my face. Keep up the great work.

      To Your Success,

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    • Profile picture of the author lychang1
      hi everyone,
      i m new to this field..can anyone give one some guides of making money using the internet?
      thx
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    Amazing post, I know I will reach that level soon!

    Thanks for the inspiration.
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    Well Done Joe!! That is great you should be proud of yourself and strive for more.

    Invest wisely! All the best Suzy!
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    • Profile picture of the author three3stooges
      if you really want 10k/month...it is imposible but...give all your momentum to achieve that level..
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  • Profile picture of the author Hogni
    Thanks for the inspiration! It really means allot... I'm getting discouraged every now and then when things don't go my way.

    Was interested in the continuation circle you mentioned:

    You have to build a list, then use the list to create JVs, then use the JVs to get a bigger list, and so on and so forth.
    Also, if you don't mind me asking, how did you start of building your list? Simply by doing WSOs?
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Originally Posted by Hogni View Post

      Thanks for the inspiration! It really means allot... I'm getting discouraged every now and then when things don't go my way.

      Was interested in the continuation circle you mentioned:



      Also, if you don't mind me asking, how did you start of building your list? Simply by doing WSOs?
      Yes, my list started from doing a WSO and from doing postings in the war room when it was still allowed to squeeze for an email.

      I did a very successful free WSO (>1200 signups) and from that I built a buyers list with my backlinks product (>400 signups) so ... conversion of 1:3 -- pretty radical.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by Joe118 View Post

        Yes, my list started from doing a WSO and from doing postings in the war room when it was still allowed to squeeze for an email.

        I did a very successful free WSO (>1200 signups) and from that I built a buyers list with my backlinks product (>400 signups) so ... conversion of 1:3 -- pretty radical.
        This point you touched on above is what has allowed WSOs to launch the internet marketing careers of many warriors in here. Many people (newbies especially) just don't see the point of running a low-priced or free WSO, but this is what allows you to build a list of responsive buyers (especially in the case of low-priced WSOs) WHILE earning money in the process!

        Typically you'd have to pay for advertising and/or put in lots of time and effort to drive traffic to your offer, but by running a WSO you're basically running a self-funding list building campaign, as you're getting paid by each subscriber (buyer) instead of the other way around!

        This is the true power of running WSOs that very few people realize to this day!

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    Well done Joe! It's now really only a matter of continuity and more zeros!
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    Congrats, nice to see ppl making this much money in the recession
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  • Profile picture of the author Focused Action
    congrats joe, that is awesome. i think the valuable lesson is to build a list of raving fans and constantly give them value - solve their problems - help them become successful. then find similar leaders in your niche and create relationships with them (and their customers). many of us (me included big time) have focused so much on keywords, blog format, plugins, seo, linking, robots - our success is 100% based on some google robot and computer to rank in top 3 of serps... had we spent time focused on a core group of people, who want what we are selling, and we create relationships with them, i am guessing we would be far more successful.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Originally Posted by curtroese View Post

      congrats joe, that is awesome. i think the valuable lesson is to build a list of raving fans and constantly give them value - solve their problems - help them become successful. then find similar leaders in your niche and create relationships with them (and their customers). many of us (me included big time) have focused so much on keywords, blog format, plugins, seo, linking, robots - our success is 100% based on some google robot and computer to rank in top 3 of serps... had we spent time focused on a core group of people, who want what we are selling, and we create relationships with them, i am guessing we would be far more successful.
      Curt exactly 100% right on. Solve problems and build a raving hungry crowd. Grow your crowd by solving more problems

      Rinse & repeat.
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  • Profile picture of the author greatseoservice
    First of all this is not a braging post for the simple reason that you actually posted a simple guidline. Thanks op!
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  • Profile picture of the author fivestarexec
    Originally Posted by Joe118 View Post

    I'm not making this thread to brag, although I feel pretty darn good about it

    Yes, I broke the $10K/mo ceiling for the first time in August. I started marketing here on WF in earnest in January 2010, so it's taken 9 months to get this far. And of course I'm nowhere near sustainable reliable can-count-on-it $10K/mo.

    The lessons learnt:
    • Provide value
    • Price it right -- sometimes more is better
    • Love your customers to death
    • Polite, polite, polite -- even though some customers are clearly missives from hell, keep your cool
    • The money *IS* in the list, if you treat the list right
    • JV's and collaborations -- the ticket to growth
    • The biggest lesson of all -- YOU CAN DO IT!
    My next goal is $10K/mo reliable.
    Joe, congrats on your success!
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  • Profile picture of the author Vitaliy K
    Joe you are right 100% the money is in the list and of course
    politeness plays here an important part too. We all love if we have a better customer support and the seller helps us to solve our problems.

    :-))
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  • Profile picture of the author HosoiLover96
    Originally Posted by Joe118 View Post

    I'm not making this thread to brag, although I feel pretty darn good about it

    Yes, I broke the $10K/mo ceiling for the first time in August. I started marketing here on WF in earnest in January 2010, so it's taken 9 months to get this far. And of course I'm nowhere near sustainable reliable can-count-on-it $10K/mo.

    The lessons learnt:
    • Provide value
    • Price it right -- sometimes more is better
    • Love your customers to death
    • Polite, polite, polite -- even though some customers are clearly missives from hell, keep your cool
    • The money *IS* in the list, if you treat the list right
    • JV's and collaborations -- the ticket to growth
    • The biggest lesson of all -- YOU CAN DO IT!
    My next goal is $10K/mo reliable.

    that is some solid infor and inspiration dude. this gave me some hope to reach that level one day.
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    • Profile picture of the author proactive1
      Originally Posted by HosoiLover96 View Post

      that is some solid infor and inspiration dude. this gave me some hope to reach that level one day.
      Hey that's awesome... Grats!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author petevamp
    Thats rather impressive for someone who just started a few months ago. I just have to ask though is this really your first time with IM. Or have you tried it before and failed then dusted your self off got back up and tried again learning from the mistakes you made the first time.

    The only reason why I ask this is the simple fact that only 1 out of ever 100 people starting off with im will always fail atleast once or twice. If you have not failed atleast once you are the extremely gifted 1% who actually made it on your first try.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Pete I'm a true first-timer

      But let's look at the bigger picture. There's nothing special about me -- this is not about me. This is about YOU and the obvious truth that YOU can do this.

      Originally Posted by petevamp View Post

      Thats rather impressive for someone who just started a few months ago. I just have to ask though is this really your first time with IM. Or have you tried it before and failed then dusted your self off got back up and tried again learning from the mistakes you made the first time.

      The only reason why I ask this is the simple fact that only 1 out of ever 100 people starting off with im will always fail atleast once or twice. If you have not failed atleast once you are the extremely gifted 1% who actually made it on your first try.
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    Good work my friend. It is great to hear these stories.
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  • Profile picture of the author vpgemini
    It just goes to show anything is possible if you work at it!
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  • Profile picture of the author Bojan_Djordjevic
    You just inspired me mate. Thanks a lot for this contribution...
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Murphy
    Congratz on your success, Joe! Would love to work with you on a project together someday.
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  • Profile picture of the author skibbz
    Hey Joe congrats!! One of the best points you mentioned is that you market within WF and also the love you have for your customers. I think WF members are the best customers ever, we are a team of people with the same objective and not selfish in supporting each other.

    keep up the good work!
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel R
      Congratulations and thanks for the inspiration!
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  • Profile picture of the author ADukes81
    Nice work Joe!

    5K is my goal by the end of the year. I have a little over three month to CRUSH IT!!!

    I may...will need some guidance.
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  • Profile picture of the author ultimates
    Congrats! I broke $10k/month a few times but never reliable on keeping it over that. That is also my goal. We can do this!
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  • Profile picture of the author spudnick
    Wow! It seems that WSO's are indeed very powerful in earning high incomes.

    Are most of the people in this thread who are achieving $10k+ in the IM niche?

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Brad Gosse
    Congrats Joe glad to see you are making it work!
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Originally Posted by Brad Gosse View Post

      Congrats Joe glad to see you are making it work!
      For those that don't know, Brad is one of the "good guys", he's so incredibly responsive and helpful behind the scenes. He's one of my main inspirations.

      I learned from him that my success is your success -- i.e. focus on the client's success and your own success will follow.

      That reminds me. A short list of people I listen to carefully and learn from as much as I can -- watch what those people do and LEARN!

      * SMS
      * Daniel Tan
      * Brad Gosse
      * Steven Resell
      * Rob Fore
      * Zeus66
      * Dave Seisner
      * Ken Banks

      Apologies if I left someone deserving off the list --
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  • Profile picture of the author Dimitris Skiadas
    Thanks for this inspiring post!Gaining 10 grand per month must be feeling awesome!Keep up the good work buddy!Keep inspiring the rest of us!

    Dimitris
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  • Profile picture of the author Tangela
    Wow, that's great to hear. Congratulations. I also believe in visualization and it has worked in many areas of my life. Keep up the great work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brendan H
    Congratulations man. $10,000 a month would be nice to make. Thanks for the tips.
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  • Profile picture of the author Super Affiliate
    Congrats, Joe. So tell me.. was your 1st 10k mostly from selling WSOs?
    A bit more information on how you achieved your 1st 10k would be very
    much appreciated. : )
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    Great stuff going on, Joe!!
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  • Profile picture of the author cantfigureout
    wow.nice.. but the prob is that your making loads of money only through selling wso, click bank amazon commission juction are a bit harder to sell aren't they?
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Originally Posted by cantfigureout View Post

      wow.nice.. but the prob is that your making loads of money only through selling wso, click bank amazon commission juction are a bit harder to sell aren't they?
      I don't have experience with clickbank and CJ so cannot say anything about that. But Amazon is easy actually. I had a network of blogs created with Rob Fore's method that were making $30/mo on average. Amazon is a scaling game, you have to have many sticks in the fire and then the numbers add up.

      As I said I sold that network and the numbers described in this thread are stricly from IM. I don't agree however that they're strictly from WSOs. I use WSOs to get a list, the really big numbers come from the LIST.
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        Way to Go Joe!!!!!
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        • Profile picture of the author Joe118
          Originally Posted by Enfusia View Post

          Way to Go Joe!!!!!
          Thanks!

          But I have to remind you, and everyone else -- THIS IS ABOUT YOU. It's about how you can do what I did.

          Also a bit of an update -- so August was great ($10K), September was OK ($5K) and October looks like it's going to be lame (<$3K). Not every month is a break-out month.

          My goal still stands: $10K/mo reliable by June 2011, and I've put into place a lot of the parts that I need to get there:

          * A solid list building machine
          * An affiliate program with 50% payout so that affiliates will run to promote my tools, all of them programs in desperate niches that basically sell themselves
          * Emphasis on customer service
          * A WSO review service which helps me find JVs (see signature)
          * Actively reaching out to potential affiliates and JV partners on the forum here, daily

          If you slack, the income goes down. Sometimes slacking is necessary, when you have to do foundational work and can't bang out products. That's just the way things are.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mangozoom
    Not at 10k yet ... congratulations to you, good job.

    Are you saying you made it ALL on WF?

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  • Profile picture of the author ijohnson
    Joe, you have really been CRUSHING IT!!!!!! I really appreciate you outlining what you do and how you are doing it -- it is so motivational and educational. You have done very well for yourself in such a short period of time!

    Making $10k/month in reliable and consistent income is one of my goals, too. I'm going to get together a vision board (a project I have been intending to work on for months) and map out my goals, business models, dreams, and ideas I plan to bring to fruition. This vision board will be placed next to my desk to help me focus and hone in on the things I want to accomplish within a certain time line.

    It appears that you really jump into IM/AM with a lot of confidence and made some significant strides right away. In other words, you took immediate action and made adjustments along the way until you hit upon a combination of things that worked for you -- and it didn't take you very long.

    I'm looking forward to all your future updates and your "$10k/month reliable" announcement!

    JOB WELL DONE!
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    Thanks for the great motivation and inpiration! Your success keeps us going!
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  • Profile picture of the author Zach Crawford
    Congrats man. Threads like this give me motivation.
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    CONGRATS! That's wonderful. Thanks for sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author fated82
    This post make me wannt shoot for the star. I hope though to be consistent in the earnings. Rather than have $10k this month and $1k the next. I want to shoot for the $10k every month goal!
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      First week of December -- $1209 net.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Summary of 2010:

      Remember this is starting from $0 income in IM. I started in IM with my first product on January 19, 2010, and released 4 more products during the year.

      The bulk of my income is from this first product, the backlinks packets in my signature.

      Total income (before costs & taxes) in 2010: $53289

      In there I had my first $10K month, my first $1600 day, and several $1000 days -- not bad for a greenhorn like me. I also built a list of 5600 subscribers from scratch in 2010.

      Goal for 2011: more than double it and break $120,000 -- i.e. get to consistent $10K a month. And build my list to 30,000.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by Joe118 View Post

        Summary of 2010:

        Remember this is starting from $0 income in IM. I started in IM with my first product on January 19, 2010, and released 4 more products during the year.

        The bulk of my income is from this first product, the backlinks packets in my signature.

        Total income (before costs & taxes) in 2010: $53289

        In there I had my first $10K month, my first $1600 day, and several $1000 days -- not bad for a greenhorn like me. I also built a list of 5600 subscribers from scratch in 2010.

        Goal for 2011: more than double it and break $120,000 -- i.e. get to consistent $10K a month. And build my list to 30,000.
        Thanks for breaking this down, Joe. I think this goal is very realistic and achievable, especially since you've a consumable product that needs to be purchased monthly (your backlink packets), and I feel that you should concentrate your efforts on marketing the socks off of it, now that you know you have a great product on your hands.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Someone sent me these questions:

      Hey Joe,

      I recently saw one of your threads and it struck me with inspiration that followed with a few questions. What was the way you started? Are you outsourcing your products? Also, With who? Is it possible to start with $300 net?

      Thanks for the answers,
      And I answered:

      The way I started was I saw some problems with a product I thought I could fix, and built a better product. This is a subscription product which pays continuously, and is the source of most of my revenue.

      I outsource everything I can. At this point the above-mentioned product is outsourced 80-90%, I do the mailing list management and the rest of it is all done by a virtual assistant.

      And yes, you can definitely start with $300 or less. My only investments were to get an autoresponder and to pay for WSOs. So I started with an investment of $100 or less.

      And the last & most important part: *ALL* of my revenue for 2010 came from WSOs and backend sales from those WSOs.
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  • Profile picture of the author vok
    This forum right now is the best place to build real internet businesses I'm sure we'll be hearing your first $1k a day soon enough, remember never stop! I always try to double monthly income year on year even if I don't meet it it really does drive me forward a lot!
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Thanks for the continued replies.

      Yes, its VERY possible to earn $10K in a month, I did it in August so I know it's possible. And I wasn't even trying, it just happened because I had several products out.

      Yes, its also VERY possible to earn $10K in a month selling other people's products, but probably harder. I haven't been able to hit that goal yet.

      To those that express (self?)-doubt, you need to believe and want the 10K in your account Then you'll work hard towards it and eventually hit it. There's lots of things to stop you, don't add your self doubts
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelAppleton
    Well done.

    10k in a single month after only 9 months.

    To any newbie IMers, let that be an inspiration.
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  • Profile picture of the author justen_mllr
    Originally Posted by Joe118 View Post

    • The biggest lesson of all -- YOU CAN DO IT!
    So true... That is the main reason anyone is successful. And the main reason why some people will never be successful. They don't think they can do it and guess what: What you believe in your mind to be true will 99 times out of 100 become true.

    Success is all in your mind. Its all about deciding that your going to do it and nothing is gonna stop you. Remember the nike slogan: Just Do It!
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    I am happy for you, now rinse and repeat! $100k is just around the corner!
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Report from the last few months:

      August $11403
      September $5034
      October $3764
      Nov (till today) $2297

      Note that these numbers are sales, not net income.

      So I know I did 10K once, and I know how to do it again. But instead of pushing for that right away, I decided to (a) stabilize my recurring membership business to get around $2500 each month and (b) invest in creating my own series of products which will hit the market starting January. I think with the incidental sales of one-payment software products, I'm going to hang around $3500, which is pretty comfortable

      I should change my name to "The Transparent Warrior"
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    Great Stuff Joe and in only 9 months.I'm nowhere near 10K a month, but each month a little bit more trickles in. Thanks for the inspiration!
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  • Profile picture of the author mad.hat
    $10k/month is pushing $300/day and closing in on $350/day. Congrats on breaking the $300/day marker. $300/day was where I was able to drop everything else and stick with internet marketing full-time.

    I hope you don't think that I am telling you how to run your business, I'm not, I just want to share my experience. I found out that at this point, instead of refining my method or trying to scale up my operation it was a far better investment to hire some assistants and start letting them run everything for me.

    $300/day on my own was great but $250/day without working was awesome! Once I got everything completely automated I started scaling up my operation to $500/day and beyond. There really is a ton of money to be made but automation is a beautiful thing and I'll shell out the costs anytime.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Originally Posted by mad.hat View Post

      $10k/month is pushing $300/day and closing in on $350/day. Congrats on breaking the $300/day marker. $300/day was where I was able to drop everything else and stick with internet marketing full-time.

      I hope you don't think that I am telling you how to run your business, I'm not, I just want to share my experience. I found out that at this point, instead of refining my method or trying to scale up my operation it was a far better investment to hire some assistants and start letting them run everything for me.

      $300/day on my own was great but $250/day without working was awesome! Once I got everything completely automated I started scaling up my operation to $500/day and beyond. There really is a ton of money to be made but automation is a beautiful thing and I'll shell out the costs anytime.
      Hi Mad Hat, yeah I already employ 5 VAs. You're right on the money that it's very hard to scale up and hold down a day job without help. In fact, I'm writing a WSO with one of my best VAs on how to manage VAs, based on my and her experience. It'll be a no-hold-barred expose'

      Agree 100% that if you can invest $50/day to buy more time, dont think twice, DO IT.

      P.S. And no, you're not telling me how to run my business -- you're contributing your valuable and very valid insights
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by Joe118 View Post

        Hi Mad Hat, yeah I already employ 5 VAs. You're right on the money that it's very hard to scale up and hold down a day job without help. In fact, I'm writing a WSO with one of my best VAs on how to manage VAs, based on my and her experience. It'll be a no-hold-barred expose'

        Agree 100% that if you can invest $50/day to buy more time, dont think twice, DO IT.

        P.S. And no, you're not telling me how to run my business -- you're contributing your valuable and very valid insights
        You hit the nail on the head there. Everyone of us has only got 24 hours per day, and between our other daily responsibilities (which includes a job for some of the people here) and our IM, there's only so much we can do each day. The key to scaling up is replacing yourself with outsourced workers, so that there can be 2,3 5, or even more "clones" of you doing all the daily required work to rake in the big money!

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    Joe, Congrats!

    I'm assuming that's from product launches and the IM niche? That is pretty achievable. If you'd like more reliable and stable income, check out other niche markets like "furniture stuff" etc.

    These markets don't have ninja SEO's and aggressive competition.

    I have adsense sites and niche sites that's basically set and forget and still earning me up to this day.

    But I can say if you want fast bucks but real hard work, step on into the IM niche, which I'm sure you're already doing.

    Good Luck to attaining $10K and more per month
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Enzo thanks!

      This is all from the IM niche. I am good at writing software, so that's where I'm going to make my money. If you heard about ubot for creating automation programs, well, I'm creating my own platform that solves some of the problems "made possible" by ubot I intend to build quite a few products based on my own platform, and I intend to make lots of recurring subscription fees that way. My heroes are the guys who own SeNuke and other such software -- they charge $127/mo because their product is worth it... That's the kind of product I think the IM niche will eat up.

      Originally Posted by Enzo Ewens View Post

      Joe, Congrats!

      I'm assuming that's from product launches and the IM niche? That is pretty achievable. If you'd like more reliable and stable income, check out other niche markets like "furniture stuff" etc.

      These markets don't have ninja SEO's and aggressive competition.

      I have adsense sites and niche sites that's basically set and forget and still earning me up to this day.

      But I can say if you want fast bucks but real hard work, step on into the IM niche, which I'm sure you're already doing.

      Good Luck to attaining $10K and more per month
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      • Profile picture of the author Enzo Ewens
        Originally Posted by Joe118 View Post

        Enzo thanks!

        This is all from the IM niche. I am good at writing software, so that's where I'm going to make my money. If you heard about ubot for creating automation programs, well, I'm creating my own platform that solves some of the problems "made possible" by ubot I intend to build quite a few products based on my own platform, and I intend to make lots of recurring subscription fees that way. My heroes are the guys who own SeNuke and other such software -- they charge $127/mo because their product is worth it... That's the kind of product I think the IM niche will eat up.
        Hi Joe,

        Yes I Know Ubot as I've used SEO tools made from ubot. Dont tell me you're the owner of this great UBOT software that I use? lol Got it from Clickbank and it's great, great support.

        I still use SENUKE and excited for the release of X, yes it's worth it if you know how to use it.

        Goodluck on your Ubot platforms and let me know if you have some great recommendations for me. I might need one of your tools!
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        • Profile picture of the author Joe118
          Enzo, nope I don't own ubot. That's another very very creative and smart marketer

          But I'm developing my own platform that will allow me to overcome the limitations of ubot. I'll be talking more about it as I get it ready for prime time.

          And yeah these Senuke guys are raking it in -- they're doing an easy 200K a month. That's something to shoot for

          Originally Posted by Enzo Ewens View Post

          Hi Joe,

          Yes I Know Ubot as I've used SEO tools made from ubot. Dont tell me you're the owner of this great UBOT software that I use? lol Got it from Clickbank and it's great, great support.

          I still use SENUKE and excited for the release of X, yes it's worth it if you know how to use it.

          Goodluck on your Ubot platforms and let me know if you have some great recommendations for me. I might need one of your tools!
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    Cogratulation! Good work .

    If you have determination , I belive you can even make 100,000+ Per month . But , every thing is a process . So , keep doing , word smart and hard .

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    Good job, god bless America!
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  • Profile picture of the author rrm
    Congrats, Joe!

    Also, thanks for including some of the lessons you learned, as it's good to know what things helped to propel your success.

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    Well done Joe!

    Great solid tips too! Every marketer should work from these tips!
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  • There was a time I would have never believed that $10k/month would be possible. Now, three years later, I'm trying to break the $100k/month mark (my max was September 2010 at $68k net), and guess what? it seems freaking impossible at this time!!! I hope, in three years from now, I will be laughing at it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      There was a time I would have never believed that $10k/month would be possible. Now, three years later, I'm trying to break the $100k/month mark (my max was September 2010 at $68k net), and guess what? it seems freaking impossible at this time!!! I hope, in three years from now, I will be laughing at it.
      That's what I love about IM, there's always a next goal, a next step in the ladder to climb.
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    congratulations...
    do you accept a student
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Originally Posted by holmes View Post

      congratulations...
      do you accept a student
      LOL, I'm no guru.
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    That is awesome! My business partner recently uploaded a picture to her Facebook with her first $15,000 check for a month so yes, I definitely know it is possible.
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    Congrats Joe!

    Thank you for the words of wisdom and for the inspiration for all of us aspiring Warriors. Always love a good success story.
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    Congrats and thanks for the words of encouragement!
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrea Wilson
    10k a month is a lot! You got the ball rolling right now? Do you outsource or do you do everything by yourself/ I wish you all the best and hope you gain a stable 10k every month!!


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        • Profile picture of the author Joe118
          Chika you can get VAs for $200/mo and if you do it right they'll make you $600, so as long as you have a reliable $500-600 a month I'd go ahead and get started. Very low risk and worth the investment.
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    Very motivational. Thanks for the share. Now all I have to do is be patient... :/
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    • Profile picture of the author solton
      Joe,

      First off, well done.

      Secondly, thanks for mentioning ejunkie.

      I was looking for a inexpensive way to manage an affiliate program. This is a big help.

      Thanks for the post.

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    NICCCEEEEE ! ! ! Congrats bro
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    I can only dream of that kind of income. I made a few sale since I started my journey.
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    now on to 10k a day lol
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Originally Posted by JonMills View Post

      now on to 10k a day lol
      Heh, I wish... That's a very far away goal, I am afraid.
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  • Originally Posted by Joe118 View Post

    :
    • Provide value
    • The money *IS* in the list, if you treat the list right
    • JV's and collaborations -- the ticket to growth
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    The three have pr
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      The three have pr
      Not sure what you meant -- could you explain?
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  • Profile picture of the author Hackbridge
    Joe,

    You're my HERO! Seriously, I admire what you do online and as a customer I know your products are solid.

    What to catch up with you sometime (I'll PM You) about something and look forward to when you release your products using your software platform.

    All the best in 2011.

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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Hi Brian I'm on gmail, and you can reach me by warrior joe 118 all in one word please.

      Originally Posted by Hackbridge View Post

      Joe,

      You're my HERO! Seriously, I admire what you do online and as a customer I know your products are solid.

      What to catch up with you sometime (I'll PM You) about something and look forward to when you release your products using your software platform.

      All the best in 2011.

      Brian
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  • Profile picture of the author James Foster
    I remember last year when I use to see "Nuggets" in the War Room and thought "who is this guy?"

    But then I went through the products, and realized you really know your stuff man.

    Congrats on your success.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Haha, James, its "fake it (your reputation) until you make it, man"

      Originally Posted by James Foster View Post

      I remember last year when I use to see "Nuggets" in the War Room and thought "who is this guy?"

      But then I went through the products, and realized you really know your stuff man.

      Congrats on your success.
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  • Profile picture of the author Keithsco
    Originally Posted by Joe118 View Post

    I'm not making this thread to brag, although I feel pretty darn good about it

    Yes, I broke the $10K/mo ceiling for the first time in August. I started marketing here on WF in earnest in January 2010, so it's taken 9 months to get this far. And of course I'm nowhere near sustainable reliable can-count-on-it $10K/mo.

    The lessons learnt:
    • Provide value
    • Price it right -- sometimes more is better
    • Love your customers to death
    • Polite, polite, polite -- even though some customers are clearly missives from hell, keep your cool
    • The money *IS* in the list, if you treat the list right
    • JV's and collaborations -- the ticket to growth
    • The biggest lesson of all -- YOU CAN DO IT!
    My next goal is $10K/mo reliable.
    Nice post man. Truly inspirational stuff. -especially the 'some customers are missives from hell" . . .lol
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    10K per months is a dream!!! wow! It's like winning at loto!
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    congratulations!
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  • Profile picture of the author Willie Crawford
    Excellent job Joe.

    The thing is that once your belief systems shifts
    and you see what is really possible, you start making
    it happen because you give yourself permission to
    let it happen.

    The keys are massive, immediate, mostly proper
    action, leverage, and momentum.

    I consider joint ventures essential but they don't
    have to be in the sense that most people think of
    them. I actually think of every one of my affiliates,
    and even my customers as "joint venture partners"
    working towards a common purpose.

    10k a month is very possible for most of us. We
    have so many absolutely brilliant people here

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      Originally Posted by Willie Crawford View Post

      Excellent job Joe.

      The thing is that once your belief systems shifts
      and you see what is really possible, you start making
      it happen because you give yourself permission to
      let it happen.

      The keys are massive, immediate, mostly proper
      action, leverage, and momentum.

      I consider joint ventures essential but they don't
      have to be in the sense that most people think of
      them. I actually think of every one of my affiliates,
      and even my customers as "joint venture partners"
      working towards a common purpose.

      10k a month is very possible for most of us. We
      have so many absolutely brilliant people here

      Willie
      That it the key, believing it IS possible...no, I am not there yet. But funny thing is, I have turned the corner in the way I think....yes, there's no doubt if I apply myself, it will happen.

      I was going after the quick money, and still do to some extent. But, I have just started to seriously pursue building a list.

      keep smiling,

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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      WOW. I'm honored (not joking). A congrats from THE Willie Crawford. Man you made my day!

      Your point about considering your affiliates as partners in the enterprise is central. It changes your entire approach to affiliates, valuing them as someone whom you need to support. I'll remember that well once I set up my own affiliate programs.

      Thanks Willie, and you should know that I am trying to emulate your giving-to-the-max approach of over delivering and giving before asking.

      I'm still buzzed that you commented.

      Originally Posted by Willie Crawford View Post

      Excellent job Joe.

      The thing is that once your belief systems shifts
      and you see what is really possible, you start making
      it happen because you give yourself permission to
      let it happen.

      The keys are massive, immediate, mostly proper
      action, leverage, and momentum.

      I consider joint ventures essential but they don't
      have to be in the sense that most people think of
      them. I actually think of every one of my affiliates,
      and even my customers as "joint venture partners"
      working towards a common purpose.

      10k a month is very possible for most of us. We
      have so many absolutely brilliant people here

      Willie
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    That's really encouraging for a newbie like me. thanks Joe
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    congrats Joe, i am truly inspired. I am going to work hard this year to attain that. Thanks for sharing it.
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    Congrats Joe! I hope you soon make $15K reliably a month!
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    Thanks for sharing both your success and your insights.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Originally Posted by thelensboss View Post

      very good stuff here. I am just starting out here on these forums but within a year I will hopefully be at 10 K a month. I am only in high school just started my first website after making many squidoo lenses.
      Everyone can teach someone something -- I never did any squidoo lenses, and I'm impressed that you had success with them. It seems quite difficult nowadays (speaking from no experience of course, since I haven't tried).

      How do you intend to get to 10K/mo consistent? Do you plan to get there through affiliate marketing, flipping websites, or any of the many other possible avenues? My own experience is that once I started making my own products, things started to click for me. I never had outstanding success with selling other people's products (affiliate marketing). By the way, 10K a month while still in high school is impressive. I want to keep track of how you're doing, since that will be quite a story to watch

      Notice that my goals are also to be at 10K/mo minimum consistent by the end of the year. Many would say that's conservative, even somewhat un-ambitious, but I like to set realistic goals or even ones that I can beat -- I hate failure, LOL. Now I know that everyone tells you that if you didn't fail you didn't succeed yet, but I just hate the pain
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    Is this a Joe I know from Texas that used to work in a different end of the interwebs?


    Originally Posted by Joe118 View Post

    I'm not making this thread to brag, although I feel pretty darn good about it

    Yes, I broke the $10K/mo ceiling for the first time in August. I started marketing here on WF in earnest in January 2010, so it's taken 9 months to get this far. And of course I'm nowhere near sustainable reliable can-count-on-it $10K/mo.

    The lessons learnt:
    • Provide value
    • Price it right -- sometimes more is better
    • Love your customers to death
    • Polite, polite, polite -- even though some customers are clearly missives from hell, keep your cool
    • The money *IS* in the list, if you treat the list right
    • JV's and collaborations -- the ticket to growth
    • The biggest lesson of all -- YOU CAN DO IT!
    My next goal is $10K/mo reliable.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Originally Posted by SeanIM View Post

      Is this a Joe I know from Texas that used to work in a different end of the interwebs?
      Sorry, different Joe. I only once visited Texas, Dallas, and I've never lived there. I live in California.
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