Is this a good plan? Bum marketing

by Mark P
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So I have been scraping together free info from forums about how to make money from article marketing without spending (except for a .info domain). Im completely new to IM so not entirely sure what I'm doing, havn't got much of a budget but i'll give it a go

So this is a rough plan of what I think I need to do, what do you think?

1. Pick a clickbank product with high gravity (not in MMO niche, weight loss or relationship niches)
2. Find 10 keywords with less than 30,000 competition and more than 60 searches
3. Write a short article for each keyword highlighting problems ppl suffer and how they should cure it. submit to ezine link to .info redirect in the resource box.
4. After a few days, see which articles are picking up organic traffic by themselves
5. For the 5 articles with the best traffic/ctr: post a spun article to 5 web 2.0 sites, each linking back to the original article.
6. Post spun article on a another article directory
7. Social bookmark the articles and web 2.0 blogs
8. Post blog comments and forum posts linking to article
9. Be on page one of google???



Would be nice to hear other peoples strategies too. I have heard of some ppl who say u must write 3-5 articles every day, and other say they just write a few per niche anf focus on heavy backlinking to get ranked high in google.

Thanks in advance for any advice / words of wisdom
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Marshall
    Originally Posted by Mark P View Post

    So I have been scraping together free info from forums about how to make money from article marketing without spending (except for a .info domain). Im completely new to IM so not entirely sure what I'm doing, havn't got much of a budget but i'll give it a go

    So this is a rough plan of what I think I need to do, what do you think?

    1. Pick a clickbank product with high gravity (not in MMO niche, weight loss or relationship niches)
    2. Find 10 keywords with less than 30,000 competition and more than 60 searches
    3. Write a short article for each keyword highlighting problems ppl suffer and how they should cure it. submit to ezine link to .info redirect in the resource box.
    4. After a few days, see which articles are picking up organic traffic by themselves
    5. For the 5 articles with the best traffic/ctr: post a spun article to 5 web 2.0 sites, each linking back to the original article.
    6. Post spun article on a another article directory
    7. Social bookmark the articles and web 2.0 blogs
    8. Post blog comments and forum posts linking to article
    9. Be on page one of google???



    Would be nice to hear other peoples strategies too. I have heard of some ppl who say u must write 3-5 articles every day, and other say they just write a few per niche anf focus on heavy backlinking to get ranked high in google.

    Thanks in advance for any advice / words of wisdom
    This is a good start. You already are doing more than I did when I started two years ago!

    I think you do need to write a few articles every day, and you also should try to focus heavily on backlinking.

    As the internet landscape keeps getting more and more crowded, it is getting harder and harder to write an article to rank in the Google search results without doing any backlinking. It certainly isn't impossible in certain niches, but backlinking will help your articles get ranked in the search engines.

    I would try submitting RSS feeds for all of your work. I would also recommend writing press releases and submitting them to the press release sites.

    You have the right ideas here and I think you are on the right track. I can tell you are going to be successful in this business!
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  • Profile picture of the author mclauchlan
    Kevin,

    In addition to the above, produce some interesting 2-3 minute videos, sign up for a You Tube account & post them on You Tube, you can link your site in the 1st line of the descriptive and watermark your video with the web address.

    Upload the vids to your web 2.0 accounts.

    As your business grows you can automate many of the manual systems, but for now get things going for free, just go and do it.

    Best of luck

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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce NewMedia
    Originally Posted by Mark P View Post

    So this is a rough plan of what I think I need to do, what do you think?

    1. Pick a clickbank product with high gravity (not in MMO niche, weight loss or relationship niches)
    Don;t automatically assume you want a product with high gravity. Most are very competitive and the gravity scores can be 'gamed' to look better anyway. Better to pay attention to the sales page and try to discern whether it is effective and is really converting.
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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    I'm sure that my answer will get flamed by those that are participating in this kind of marketing, but I always have to ask... why would you want to build somebody's business for them? If you game plan is to submit your articles to a site owned by somebody else, then that is exactly what you are doing.

    Sure, you might gain some traffic with this method, but you are also providing free content for the site owners.

    Start thinking about building your own site up with original content. Then use these article directories to point traffic there, but your main concern should be building up your own site with good, original content... not somebody else's.
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  • Profile picture of the author Justin W
    Originally Posted by Mark P View Post

    2. Find 10 keywords with less than 30,000 competition and more than 60 searches

    It all looks good! However, I wouldn't focus on the competition number. You just need to worry about the top 10. Take a look at the pages and get an idea on the PR.

    Also as far as the number of searches, try and aim for a higher amount of searches with your keywords

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mangozoom
    Not a bad plan at all in my humble opinion.

    Someone has already mention not going for really high gravity products.
    There was a really great post up on the forum a couple a weeks ago which explained why. If I find it I will pm you.

    Also suggest you grab an Aweber account and set up squeeze pages with a series of follow up emails

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Mark P View Post

    So I have been scraping together free info from forums about how to make money from article marketing without spending (except for a .info domain).
    The .info domain was money well spent, and good value.

    Originally Posted by Mark P View Post

    So this is a rough plan of what I think I need to do, what do you think?
    Honestly, I think it's a rather misguided plan, and it's certainly one adopted by many people who find it very difficult to succeed, not because they do anything terribly wrong with it but because the plan itself is actually fundamentally flawed in several places.

    I have 5 specific comments. I'll try not to write a "book", here.

    Originally Posted by Mark P View Post

    Pick a clickbank product with high gravity
    First point: picking a high gravity product, statistically speaking, is handicapping yourself, in my opinion. This post contains personal opinion about Clickbank product-selection which may help you. This post contains factual information about gravity which may help you, too.

    (That last post linked to is also the one John's mentioning in his post above, I think).

    Originally Posted by Mark P View Post

    Find 10 keywords with less than 30,000 competition
    Second point: the quantity of competition is completely irrelevant. It's actually easy to see why. Just ask yourself this question: would you rather "compete" with 12,000,000 others if the quality of the first-page listings is such that you see you can easily beat them, or compete with 1,200 competitors if the top few listings are age-old authority sites with a million backlinks, which you know you can never realistically overtake? It's actually a bit of a no-brainer, isn't it? The quality of your competitors means everything in selecting a niche, but you should have absolutely no interest at all in the number of potential competitors. You're competing with only the top 5 of them anyway: it makes no difference at all whether those top 5 are followed by 1,195 others or by 1,999,995 others. I know that all the 'guidebooks' give indications about the "quantity of competitors" but I think you'll agree that it actually takes only a moment's thought to see that they've all missed the true point, here, and are barking up the wrong tree as a result?

    Originally Posted by Mark P View Post

    Write a short article for each keyword
    Third point: depending on the quality of your articles, you may do a lot better with a long article than with a short one. Reading this thread from the other day may interest you a lot.

    Originally Posted by Mark P View Post

    Post spun article on a another article directory
    Fourth point: in my opinion, that would be a mistake: there's very little if any net advantage in "spinning". Many people will disagree. But then again, many people imagine there are "duplicate content penalties". There are 100 threads on this subject. It's enormously widely misunderstood. In my opinion, the benefits of spinning well enough to get any benefits at all are more than outweighed by the time taken, and you can use that time to write more articles. Many will disagree and say so vehemently. I offer you the observation that many - very many! - have either a financial or (even more significant?) an emotional investment in the validity of "spinning". It's one of those questions about which if you ask "article marketers" their collective opinion, you'll get a radically different impression from the one you'll have if you ask only people who are making a good living from article marketing! Remember that more people fail than succeed, and ("therefore"?) sometimes the "consensus view" will be a mistaken one.

    My fifth and final(!) point: this method of trying to send traffic to Clickbank offers, known as "direct-linking" (ok: it's not strictly "direct" because you use the .info domain as a forwarding system, but it's "direct" in its effect, in that you don't have a website) is a very, very difficult and unreliable one. The problem with it is that you're depriving yourself of both the main two prerequisites for article marketing success: (i) the ability to pre-sell effectively, and (ii) the ability to build a list. It just doesn't work nearly as well as it did 5 years ago. And especially not for high gravity (which means "competitive") products, because your competitors are doing better things than this.

    I do think you'll find reading the threads linked to above pretty helpful. Good luck!

    PS - If money's an issue, but you want a one-page (or bigger!) website between your articles and your hoplink (which I would), this is pretty easily done free of charge at Weebly, Blinkweb, Yola and so on, or more professionally done (but still free of charge) by putting a Wordpress blog on the very reliable free hosting at byethost.com. None of these is a perfect solution for the long term, perhaps, but they're all free and a whole lot better than "direct-linking".
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    • Profile picture of the author TallShip
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      ...The quality of your competitors means everything in selecting a niche, but you should have absolutely no interest at all in the number of potential competitors. You're competing with only the top 5 of them anyway: it makes no difference at all whether those top 5 are followed by 1,195 others or by 1,999,995 others.
      Well said, Alexa. That is something that I have consistently stumbled over in the past - misinterpreted statistics. I have backed away from opportunities that seemed "too crowded" based on sheer numbers alone, NOT on the fact that most of what I would have been 'competing' against was crap. And then I watch someone I know step in and create something only marginally better than the sea of junk, and they succeed quite well.

      That's when I've kicked myself.

      Now, I don't let 'numbers of competition' deter me. Quality of competition is a totally different game, and one I can thrive in. I love high quality, can create it and produce it all day long. Beginning with that, I can easily surpass lesser 'offerings' - and have happier customers who want to tell others. That gets me two birds with only one net! (wouldn't want to kill them with a stone ya know )
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        Originally Posted by FullSails View Post

        Now, I don't let 'numbers of competition' deter me. Quality of competition is a totally different game, and one I can thrive in. I love high quality, can create it and produce it all day long. Beginning with that, I can easily surpass lesser 'offerings' - and have happier customers who want to tell others. That gets me two birds with only one net! (wouldn't want to kill them with a stone ya know )

        I agree...

        Numbers of competitors is meaningless, when most of your competitors are clueless...

        Quality of competition is more the deciding factor in determining how easy it will be for you to compete in a specific niche...

        At the end of the day, the quality of content you use (or don't use) will determine your success level or failure...
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    • Profile picture of the author mariciu
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      None of these is a perfect solution for the long term, perhaps, but they're all free and a whole lot better than "direct-linking".
      i really dont understand why why u say a landing page beetwen article and products page is better than a direct link.. i think that will unlist a big part of pottential buyers instead of directing straight where i'm aiming them... I'm confused.. :confused:
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    • Profile picture of the author WilliamBerg
      I agree with Alex. Forget about gravity. choose what seems to be a good product instead in a niche you like.
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  • Profile picture of the author fated82
    Your Bum Marketing method will only work IF you have one of these two conditions:

    - You are building a list (I regret not doing this earlier)
    - You have more than one way of generating income from your articles.

    Currently I have 2 different models. One of them is similar to bum marketing. The difference is that I don't spin articles and spread them all over the web. Secondly, my main source of income is adsense revenue and affiliate sales are secondary (I can put affiliate links, amazon or ebay products on the article).

    And because I have tons of niche articles, I simply rewrite them and send them to hubpages (that's where my adsense revenue comes from).
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  • Profile picture of the author ashokpobox
    Well nice to learn good tips and tricks from everyone. My method was different. I use to choose clickbank products with self-made newsletters and just send emails to my email database and use to get huge commissions but those wonderful days have gone now. Those are the days when emails use to easily by pass all the Big email giants firewall. I must have made more than $1000000 in last 4 years.

    Now I have started, Work from Home jobs and have hired some staff to complete the jobs I get everyday. Quiet happy!!!

    I still looking for better method to promote clickbank products with less effort
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  • Profile picture of the author mariciu
    I've learned alot from this thread. thanks alot for those who are giving so usefull tips for newbies !
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  • Profile picture of the author AdmiralGloom
    alot of good information in this all, awesome!
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