How Do You Rank a YouTube Video?

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Hello Warriors

I have a problem that I hope can be answered by any of us here.

I've been burning my butt off trying to rank a YouTube video for a certain keyword but whatever I do, it's just not getting there..

I've been backlinking with bookmarks, articles, profiles, web 2.0 sites you name it..

However, the video still won't surface.

I saw one post here by Deepak Raj:

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-charging.html

However, my goal is to rank the video right from youtube.


So any tips?

Thanks!
#rank #video #youtube
  • Profile picture of the author Ldimilo
    Originally Posted by rapidscc View Post

    Hello Warriors

    I have a problem that I hope can be answered by any of us here.

    I've been burning my butt off trying to rank a YouTube video for a certain keyword but whatever I do, it's just not getting there..

    I've been backlinking with bookmarks, articles, profiles, web 2.0 sites you name it..

    However, the video still won't surface.

    I saw one post here by Deepak Raj:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-charging.html

    However, my goal is to rank the video right from youtube.


    So any tips?

    Thanks!
    Sounds like you are doing what you should be doing. Here is a thought (although I haven't tried to rank youtube videos before)....

    Have you ever thought about creating a ring of internal links within youtube pointing back to your main video?

    Dunno if that would be an effective strategy but it has worked for me on content sharing sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
    Hey nice tip

    Will try it and observe the effects in a week.
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  • I've seen several rank well for spot on keyword phrases and local search.

    In high competitive niches you may not be able to rank it on it's own - it's that simple.

    I do well cross linking between Youtube and my sites. I have a few videos that rank well for both my site and youtube because I generate a ton of traffic for them by putting them in the side bars of my sites and I focus primarily on BRANDING.

    I want a person to think of my site when they see any video in the niche.
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    • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
      Originally Posted by InternetMarketingIQ View Post

      In high competitive niches you may not be able to rank it on it's own - it's that simple.
      Yeah, I agree. We have videos totally dominating keywords, for some we even have 2,3,4 spots on the first page. However, for some keywords that I'm forcing myself to rank, nothing's moving. So maybe it's just that the keyword is actually too competitive.

      Still, I'll try the first suggestion. Create a form of linkwheel within the site itself and I'll see if it will have an effect. It sounds good, it might work.

      Thanks,
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      • Profile picture of the author seojedi
        I use a tool like Tubemogul or snuke to push the video to 24+video sites...OR use Fiverr.com and get it submitted to lots of sites. Get the login info and drop a description link to your metcafe and youtube vids.

        This works for me...along with what you're already doing EG. bookmarking, link from articles etc.
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        • Profile picture of the author feedtherightwolf
          I have exact same problem. It is pretty frustrating because I have more comments, more likes, more friends, more subscriber, more links, better tags, more keywords in description, better optimized title and I still show up bellow. The only thing I can think of is age of the video....
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          • Profile picture of the author Vogin
            Do you know why e.g. Ezine articles have a chance to rank quite high?

            It's not that they carry the same PR as the EzineArticles.com itself, it's that you instantly have hundreds of internal backlinks (category etc.).

            Also, you should use Market Samurai or sth like that to determine the competition - I'd hate to waste my time on ranking the phrase "money" (Absurd example, but you get what I mean).
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            • Profile picture of the author feedtherightwolf
              Originally Posted by Vogin View Post

              Do you know why e.g. Ezine articles have a chance to rank quite high?

              It's not that they carry the same PR as the EzineArticles.com itself, it's that you instantly have hundreds of internal backlinks (category etc.).

              Also, you should use Market Samurai or sth like that to determine the competition - I'd hate to waste my time on ranking the phrase "money" (Absurd example, but you get what I mean).
              I think Market Samurai pulls data from Google keywords (mostly) which doesn't really mean much when it comes to youtube.

              Also are you saying that if we have a link web pointing to our video it will help its ranking? I heard it before, but I checked videos of my competitors who rank above mine, and they have no internal links coming to the video at all. (At least yahoo/alta vista don't show any).
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            • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
              Originally Posted by Vogin View Post

              It's not that they carry the same PR as the EzineArticles.com itself, it's that you instantly have hundreds of internal backlinks (category etc.).
              Yeah it makes sense, I will try to experiment on doing linkwheel type links inside youtube itself.
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              • Profile picture of the author feedtherightwolf
                Originally Posted by rapidscc View Post

                Yeah it makes sense, I will try to experiment on doing linkwheel type links inside youtube itself.
                How do you plan to do this?
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                • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
                  Originally Posted by feedtherightwolf View Post

                  How do you plan to do this?
                  LOL, I'll still have to check it out but what I have in mind is to place valuable comments on related high traffic videos, and I guess you have an idea of the rest
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                  • Profile picture of the author feedtherightwolf
                    Originally Posted by rapidscc View Post

                    LOL, I'll still have to check it out but what I have in mind is to place valuable comments on related high traffic videos, and I guess you have an idea of the rest

                    Thats what I am testing now related video/profile comments. Will see how it works out.
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                    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
                      Hi Rapidscc,

                      Are you trying to get it to rank in Google search engine or youtube search?

                      If it's the former (search engine), if you go to page 1 of the SERPs for that keyphrase, does Google show other peoples' videos in the top positions/on the first page, or is it a phrase where Google doesn't consider videos to be the ideal 'solution'?

                      You realise that Google (allegedly) has a part of the algorithm that splits keyphrases into two categories - those where a video is the ideal 'solution' and those where a video isn't?
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                      • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
                        Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

                        Hi Rapidscc,

                        Are you trying to get it to rank in Google search engine or youtube search?

                        If it's the former (search engine), if you go to page 1 of the SERPs for that keyphrase, does Google show other peoples' videos in the top positions/on the first page, or is it a phrase where Google doesn't consider videos to be the ideal 'solution'?

                        You realise that Google (allegedly) has a part of the algorithm that splits keyphrases into two categories - those where a video is the ideal 'solution' and those where a video isn't?
                        OHHHHH....Dang, this could very well be the reason why

                        The video is no. 1 in youtube search but part of the directive given to me by my Boss is to rank it on Google search...

                        I was already beginning to think and notice this..because there wasn't a video not until the 5th page I think and it isn't ours. Now that you've confirmed it, I do think that it could be the reason why.
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                        • Profile picture of the author ExRat
                          Hi Rapidscc,

                          With respect, it's not rocket-science.

                          Imagine you are Google. Which one of these keyphrases is best represented by a video?

                          a) flymo gdk-4322 replacement blade

                          b) facebook game application

                          c) how to mend a bicycle puncture

                          d) best price kodak digital with tripod
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                          • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
                            Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

                            Hi Rapidscc,

                            With respect, it's not rocket-science.

                            Imagine you are Google. Which one of these keyphrases is best represented by a video?

                            a) flymo gdk-4322 replacement blade

                            b) facebook game application

                            c) how to mend a bicycle puncture

                            d) best price kodak digital with tripod
                            Hi Roger,

                            Based on a quick thought, it's c) How to mend..

                            Upon checking in Goog, it turns out it is, with 3 videos on the top spot

                            I guess from now on before targeting a keyword with video we must first do some things:

                            1. Apply common sense (Will video probably be a search result for the topic)
                            2. Are there already videos in the first page.
                            3. Check out the highest ranking video in youtube for the keyword and see if it comes up in Google search.

                            and a few more additional testing steps.

                            I guess if these sign exist then it's a go but not if it ain't.

                            Thanks,

                            Omar
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  • Profile picture of the author stoica
    my methods is like this : title , description , tags flooded with the keyword I want to rank for. Pump some artificial views 100-200 and give some ratings and comments to your video from my other accounts , it works very good for me
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  • Profile picture of the author vpgemini
    Well ExRat pretty much nailed it. Based upon on what your doing with your SEO you should be just fine ranking on page one for google.

    But don't forget to make sure your video has your keyword in the title and description as well in youtube. I see so many videos with spammed keywords and tags in their videos and you don't have to go that far to rank highly.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi Rapidscc,

      This one -

      2. Are there already videos in the first page.
      Yes, yes, yes.

      And what vpgemini said -

      don't forget to make sure your video has your keyword in the title and description
      ...or alternatively, don't forget to make the title the same as the keyphrase you're trying to rank for (if at all possible) or at least have as little as possible extra in there, and ideally put any extra after the phrase.
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  • Profile picture of the author mantasx
    I'm not sure about the ethics of this method, but I will share a quick outline. It may not seem fair to others, but if your serious about ranking and traffic..

    First, get your keywords straight. Adwords keyword tool does not provide accurate data for youtube. Use ads.youtube.com/keyword_tool instead to find affective keywords.

    Second, focus on quality videos then remix them for quantity. The number is up to you, but I run about 20-50 videos re-edits each. The edit can be as simple as cutting off a few seconds at the end or as complex as shuffling sideshows to create complex algorithm of spinned video content. Upload all of the videos.

    Third, make a search for all of your keywords and find the videos with the most views from past month. Select relevance as the search option. Copy all of the video tags that reach over 500 views in a month and shuffle them, then separate them in 500 characters. Use them for all of your own videos.. This is very affective to get both views and rank better than your competitors, since your copying their success.

    Forth, the most important step to force your videos to rank well is to stuff some keywords in the description. Add about ~2000 to ~3000 characters worth of words that are related to your video. This can be copied from other videos that are doing well, since all the top guns are doing it you might as well. Youtube does not penalize for this, and most users are already use to this method and accept it as standard.

    Lastly, make sure to 'Like' all of your videos with multiple accounts. This will give you that extra push to rank even better and let users have a positive mentality from first glance at your video.

    All of this can be very time consuming if done manually, but it will be well worth it. I like to create my own macros that cover about 80% of the labor

    That's about all there is to it, if you follow all that you shouldn't need any external links such as bookmarks, profile links, or any blogs..
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  • Profile picture of the author seojedi
    Here's something that's often missing in these types of forums: Real world results. Here are mine...

    Product: TV screen protector

    3 US based URL competing sites.

    Took 6 months with a new site URL (MyTvScreenProtector.com) to get to #4/5 on the Googl.

    The video is #9 and was #11 BUT were #3 and 4 up until Ginstant launched a week ago.

    What I did:

    1. Submit to Youtube and other major sites (see below). Each submission has a unique TITLE and description but every description starts with the money site url.

    Yahoo Video
    Atom
    Photo Bucket
    Crackle
    Veoh
    You Tube
    My Space
    VSocial
    Vimeo
    Daily Motion
    Motionbox
    Metacafe
    AOL Video
    Bolt
    Blip.tv
    ProsperityCast.tv
    Revver
    SelfCast.tv

    You'll notice the SHOPPING results are dead center on the users gaze...
    Go here and create a feed for your products to get them listed.

    google.com/intl/en_us/products/submit.html

    Bookmark all videos and ping all bookmarks. Then bookmark the Youtube and Metacafe submissions again. Then get 5 400 word articels written and link to these two video sites. Then get 5 more articles and link to the previous articles using the same anchor text. Submit RSS of all articles to the aggregators/ Bookmark and ping all articles.

    Embed the Youtube video on your site in two places. One will use the Youtube embed (Create a separate direct link with anchor text on that page to the actual Youtube URL), the other will use the actual file and stream from your hosting account from somewhere like /videos/nameofvideo.mov. Optimize these page for your KW. You can create a simple Google video sitemap and submit to the Goog as well.

    Go back to the second set of article and use one of the anchor text links in bio box and link to the pages on your site what have the video.

    Wait 2-3 weeks for results. If no one else is providing video content for these terms, you should come out on top.
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  • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
    @SEO-Jedi

    Thanks man, what you showed is pretty much appreciated here
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  • Profile picture of the author Deepak Media
    Originally Posted by rapidscc View Post

    Hello Warriors

    I have a problem that I hope can be answered by any of us here.

    I've been burning my butt off trying to rank a YouTube video for a certain keyword but whatever I do, it's just not getting there..

    I've been backlinking with bookmarks, articles, profiles, web 2.0 sites you name it..

    However, the video still won't surface.

    I saw one post here by Deepak Raj:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-charging.html

    However, my goal is to rank the video right from youtube.


    So any tips?

    Thanks!
    I have a youtube video which has 1 backlink, no embeds anywhere but has got 86 likes and 10 dislikes. And it ranks no.4 for a keyword which has around 125,000,000+ results.

    There is no formula for ranking youtube videos. Some methods work but never always work. So it is just a numbers game.

    Also try embedding it in a blog with relevant content. It tends to rank faster.
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