The number 1 newbie frustration

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What would you say is the number 1 newbie frustration?

The one thing that always trips up most newbies.



Just after 1 - not a list, but hey if you wanna make a list - go for it.

I would say it is;

'information overload - too much information coming from every direction'
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  • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
    #1 Newbie Frustration : How to get started.

    Take a step back, and think like your customers...

    I just had this strong feeling tonight to share this simple thought-reversal technique with you all...

    I have read about this many times... how you need to think like your customers in order to write a proper sales page, or come up with proper pricing structures that will be well received by your particular customer base.

    On a particular project of mine, I was debating whether or not to offer a monthly membership fee, or a one time lifetime membership fee...

    Here's where I 'Reversed my thinking' when I put myself in my customer's shoes
    (which I have also worn a few times myself, purchasing different products/memberships/etc... as I am sure you have worn yourself...)

    I took a step back and thought... I really like this product, but I don't want to be locked into a monthly fee... If this product that I am very tempted to buy right now was a one time 'lifetime membership fee' I would purchase immediately...

    Now, I'm in no way saying that one time offers are better than monthly membership fees... no way, no how... in the bigger 'business' picture, surely a monthly residual membership fee is the best way to go for your business... but it depends on the product.

    In this particular product's case, once I took a step back and thought about it as though I was a customer, it was clear that I needed to go the 'Lifetime one fee only' route, simply based on the product/offer itself, and more importantly, based upon my true emotions that came out of nowhere when I was thinking like a customer.

    My point is, take a huge step outside yourself, don't think about the best thing for you, or your business... but try to focus on what the best things for your customers are... because without them, you have no business!

    Now... what are your thoughts on this simple yet powerful technique, and how do you put yourself in YOUR customers' shoes?

    - Jared
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    • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
      Originally Posted by Jared Alberghini View Post

      #1 Newbie Frustration : [I]
      On a particular project of mine, I was debating whether or not to offer a monthly membership fee, or a one time lifetime membership fee...

      Here's where I 'Reversed my thinking' when I put myself in my customer's shoes
      (which I have also worn a few times myself, purchasing different products/memberships/etc... as I am sure you have worn yourself...)

      I took a step back and thought... I really like this product, but I don't want to be locked into a monthly fee... If this product that I am very tempted to buy right now was a one time 'lifetime membership fee' I would purchase immediately...

      Now, I'm in no way saying that one time offers are better than monthly membership fees... no way, no how... in the bigger 'business' picture, surely a monthly residual membership fee is the best way to go for your business... but it depends on the product.

      In this particular product's case, once I took a step back and thought about it as though I was a customer, it was clear that I needed to go the 'Lifetime one fee only' route, simply based on the product/offer itself, and more importantly, based upon my true emotions that came out of nowhere when I was thinking like a customer.
      This doesn't have to be an either/or question.

      You can offer both options.

      Some people might want to pay a lower upfront fee and be happy with continuing with the monthly fee if they get value from the site.

      As you say every situation is different.

      Kindest regards,
      Andrew Cavanagh
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      • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
        My biggest frustration when I started out internet marketing many, many years ago was I didn't understand AT ALL how to put a website online and I didn't really have the budget to do it.

        But back then it was a WHOLE lot more expensive and difficult to do and much harder to find information on how to do it too.

        Getting a website online now is pretty easy but I'm guessing many newbies still have some trouble with this.

        Keep in mind they don't understand ANYTHING so all the terminology is confusing.

        Kindest regards,
        Andrew Cavanagh
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        • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
          Most Internet Millionaires and do full scripts and codes on there websites with no help and many know tons of computer hanking tips. It would take the average person 15 years to get there. You need skills
          No... you don't.

          You hire people with those skills.
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    • Profile picture of the author brandonhess
      I prefer the monthly, just because it means monthly residual from my efforts.

      one of my programs i am in is both. $3 one time, or you can upgrade for $30 a year and make a residual.

      The other program I am in is $10 a month. the pay is better in this one, but cost is more.

      So I like having both of them. niether costs all that much, but I can offer something that will fit most needs.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ryan Dodson
    My #1 is information overload

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    • Profile picture of the author chad90382
      I think the number 1 newbie frustration is trying to find the right opportunity. There is SO MANY scams out there! I can only tell you newbies to research and find that right home business for you! Find a legitimate company that has a good proven track record. My home business has been around since 1998.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
      Observing for the last few years on this forum, I'd say that information overload and too many options is stopping many a newbie from focusing on one path and getting to the goal. I see far too many who start one thing ... don't see instant results ... hop on another thing ... don't see instant results ...

      My advice to newbies: Make a decision and stick to that path. Be persistent and put the blinders on to all those other shiny attractions.
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      • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
        That the "Cash ain't Easy"!... sorry, couldn't resist.

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        • Profile picture of the author Corwinnx
          I say that information overload is the symptom, not the cause.

          Telling a newbie, IMHO, to 'choose a path and stick to it' is the equivalent of telling said newbie to find the needle in the haystack.

          The number one problem I see with 'newbies' is a desire to earn an income from their own business where they get to be the boss, usually with no formal education or business training.

          I'm not preaching that anyone need run out and get an MBA for IM. Not at all.

          But my business education teaches me that this "Internet Marketing Thing" is an entire industry, not just 'a' business.

          I believe that the lack of direction is caused by that lack of business knowledge.

          The first thing most newbies lack is a plan, a plan that incorporates several factors into what their 'direction' is going to be, but to even make that plan, they need some knowledge first.

          For instance, what we call a 'freebie' or a 'giveaway' is known in business as a 'loss leader'. It's where the business owner takes a financial hit on a front end product to gain the customer, in the hopes that eventually the customer will purchase more, and more expensive products, thereby making up for the 'freebie' they got in the first place.

          Additional sources of revenue need to be incorporated into each and every business plan. In our 'industry' we know that we can make money as affiliates for other people's products, but we also know that having our own products is by and far the most profitable and the most stable model to control, as 'affiliate marketing' is often shaky ground. Imagine writing 100 articles promoting a product of someone else all over the web, only to have the vendor suddenly close up shop. This does not a stable business model make.

          BUT, affiliate products that 'complement' our own products are far more easily controlled and will be 'additional sources of revenue' for our business.

          CPA- again, not a stable business model in and of itself. But incentivized traffic can and should be an additional source of income incorporated into all business plans. I personally find it a good exit strategy for the viewer leaving my page. If said viewer elects not to buy my product, I can offer it to that viewer for free in exchange for his participation in a CPA program, thus saving my sale, even if it's only at a fraction of what I would have made had the viewer bought my book.

          This could go on and on, and I don't usually ramble. But this is the basic thing I find the newbies having the hard time over coming. They see all these myriad opportunities and they are all often promised as the next best thing to "MAKE A FORTUNE ONLINE IN 30 DAYS OR LESS" and no one is explaining to them how "ALL OF THESE THINGS" should be incorporated into their business plan and model. And many of the 'make money with this method books, portray the 'tactic' as a 'business model' when in fact it's best use is as an 'additional source of revenue' for a different business model (Adsense is a perfect example of this.)

          Couple that with no real education in this field and that's the problem with newbies. Ebooks are great for general ideas, but whe the newbie is stuck and has a question, that e-book doesn't talk back. Seminars are a joke. Nothing but product dumps, sell-a-thons and infomercials. There is no "class", no "school" nothing but "buy my next ebook and it will magically put $100,000 in your paypal account in 7 days."

          What newbies need is mentorship and coaching. Hands on, real live TRAINING. And I am not talking about a 4 or 5 day 'seminar.' I mean 6 months of twice weekly 'classes'. There are far too many facets of this 'industry' to learn it all in less time than that.

          I blog about this particular topic often because it is near and dear to me. So thanks for the opportunity to get up on my soapbox and preach about this topic that I'm so passionate about. I'm a business man first and foremost, and I tell people 'if you want to make money on the web, sell stuff on ebay. If you want to start a business, you better learn about 'BUSINESS" first.

          -Marcus
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          • Profile picture of the author Joe Campbell
            I know I suffered from too much info and started to stray away from learning what I needed to know. Now I'm learning from someone step by step and it keeps me focused.
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          • Profile picture of the author ECoughlin
            Originally Posted by Corwinnx View Post

            I say that information overload is the symptom, not the cause.

            Telling a newbie, IMHO, to 'choose a path and stick to it' is the equivalent of telling said newbie to find the needle in the haystack.

            The number one problem I see with 'newbies' is a desire to earn an income from their own business where they get to be the boss, usually with no formal education or business training.

            I'm not preaching that anyone need run out and get an MBA for IM. Not at all.

            But my business education teaches me that this "Internet Marketing Thing" is an entire industry, not just 'a' business.

            I believe that the lack of direction is caused by that lack of business knowledge.

            The first thing most newbies lack is a plan, a plan that incorporates several factors into what their 'direction' is going to be, but to even make that plan, they need some knowledge first.

            For instance, what we call a 'freebie' or a 'giveaway' is known in business as a 'loss leader'. It's where the business owner takes a financial hit on a front end product to gain the customer, in the hopes that eventually the customer will purchase more, and more expensive products, thereby making up for the 'freebie' they got in the first place.

            Additional sources of revenue need to be incorporated into each and every business plan. In our 'industry' we know that we can make money as affiliates for other people's products, but we also know that having our own products is by and far the most profitable and the most stable model to control, as 'affiliate marketing' is often shaky ground. Imagine writing 100 articles promoting a product of someone else all over the web, only to have the vendor suddenly close up shop. This does not a stable business model make.

            BUT, affiliate products that 'complement' our own products are far more easily controlled and will be 'additional sources of revenue' for our business.

            CPA- again, not a stable business model in and of itself. But incentivized traffic can and should be an additional source of income incorporated into all business plans. I personally find it a good exit strategy for the viewer leaving my page. If said viewer elects not to buy my product, I can offer it to that viewer for free in exchange for his participation in a CPA program, thus saving my sale, even if it's only at a fraction of what I would have made had the viewer bought my book.

            This could go on and on, and I don't usually ramble. But this is the basic thing I find the newbies having the hard time over coming. They see all these myriad opportunities and they are all often promised as the next best thing to "MAKE A FORTUNE ONLINE IN 30 DAYS OR LESS" and no one is explaining to them how "ALL OF THESE THINGS" should be incorporated into their business plan and model. And many of the 'make money with this method books, portray the 'tactic' as a 'business model' when in fact it's best use is as an 'additional source of revenue' for a different business model (Adsense is a perfect example of this.)

            Couple that with no real education in this field and that's the problem with newbies. Ebooks are great for general ideas, but whe the newbie is stuck and has a question, that e-book doesn't talk back. Seminars are a joke. Nothing but product dumps, sell-a-thons and infomercials. There is no "class", no "school" nothing but "buy my next ebook and it will magically put $100,000 in your paypal account in 7 days."

            What newbies need is mentorship and coaching. Hands on, real live TRAINING. And I am not talking about a 4 or 5 day 'seminar.' I mean 6 months of twice weekly 'classes'. There are far too many facets of this 'industry' to learn it all in less time than that.

            I blog about this particular topic often because it is near and dear to me. So thanks for the opportunity to get up on my soapbox and preach about this topic that I'm so passionate about. I'm a business man first and foremost, and I tell people 'if you want to make money on the web, sell stuff on ebay. If you want to start a business, you better learn about 'BUSINESS" first.

            -Marcus
            I totally agree! That's why I started my current site. After 3 years of building a site using a very good program that taught me the basics, I decided that I wanted my next site to help people who were just like me when they started out.

            I read a lot of ebooks at the beginning and had no idea what they were talking about! I had to read a lot more to understand what all the jargon was that these internet marketers were throwing around.

            That's why my site is so simple and basic. I try to keep it that way so that the newbie can find a safe place to learn without being made to feel like an idiot. It's hard, though, to stop from slipping into the jargon. :-)

            So, I guess my opinion of the biggest frustration for newbies is not knowing what the heck internet marketers are talking about! :-)

            Eunice
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          • Profile picture of the author homejobcreator
            Originally Posted by Corwinnx View Post

            I say that information overload is the symptom, not the cause.

            Telling a newbie, IMHO, to 'choose a path and stick to it' is the equivalent of telling said newbie to find the needle in the haystack.

            The number one problem I see with 'newbies' is a desire to earn an income from their own business where they get to be the boss, usually with no formal education or business training.

            I'm not preaching that anyone need run out and get an MBA for IM. Not at all.

            But my business education teaches me that this "Internet Marketing Thing" is an entire industry, not just 'a' business.

            I believe that the lack of direction is caused by that lack of business knowledge.

            The first thing most newbies lack is a plan, a plan that incorporates several factors into what their 'direction' is going to be, but to even make that plan, they need some knowledge first.

            For instance, what we call a 'freebie' or a 'giveaway' is known in business as a 'loss leader'. It's where the business owner takes a financial hit on a front end product to gain the customer, in the hopes that eventually the customer will purchase more, and more expensive products, thereby making up for the 'freebie' they got in the first place.

            Additional sources of revenue need to be incorporated into each and every business plan. In our 'industry' we know that we can make money as affiliates for other people's products, but we also know that having our own products is by and far the most profitable and the most stable model to control, as 'affiliate marketing' is often shaky ground. Imagine writing 100 articles promoting a product of someone else all over the web, only to have the vendor suddenly close up shop. This does not a stable business model make.

            BUT, affiliate products that 'complement' our own products are far more easily controlled and will be 'additional sources of revenue' for our business.

            CPA- again, not a stable business model in and of itself. But incentivized traffic can and should be an additional source of income incorporated into all business plans. I personally find it a good exit strategy for the viewer leaving my page. If said viewer elects not to buy my product, I can offer it to that viewer for free in exchange for his participation in a CPA program, thus saving my sale, even if it's only at a fraction of what I would have made had the viewer bought my book.

            This could go on and on, and I don't usually ramble. But this is the basic thing I find the newbies having the hard time over coming. They see all these myriad opportunities and they are all often promised as the next best thing to "MAKE A FORTUNE ONLINE IN 30 DAYS OR LESS" and no one is explaining to them how "ALL OF THESE THINGS" should be incorporated into their business plan and model. And many of the 'make money with this method books, portray the 'tactic' as a 'business model' when in fact it's best use is as an 'additional source of revenue' for a different business model (Adsense is a perfect example of this.)

            Couple that with no real education in this field and that's the problem with newbies. Ebooks are great for general ideas, but whe the newbie is stuck and has a question, that e-book doesn't talk back. Seminars are a joke. Nothing but product dumps, sell-a-thons and infomercials. There is no "class", no "school" nothing but "buy my next ebook and it will magically put $100,000 in your paypal account in 7 days."

            What newbies need is mentorship and coaching. Hands on, real live TRAINING. And I am not talking about a 4 or 5 day 'seminar.' I mean 6 months of twice weekly 'classes'. There are far too many facets of this 'industry' to learn it all in less time than that.

            I blog about this particular topic often because it is near and dear to me. So thanks for the opportunity to get up on my soapbox and preach about this topic that I'm so passionate about. I'm a business man first and foremost, and I tell people 'if you want to make money on the web, sell stuff on ebay. If you want to start a business, you better learn about 'BUSINESS" first.

            -Marcus
            Hi Michael,

            Great summary and advice - I couldn't agree with you more! As a relative newbie I knew I wanted an internet 'business', but found all the heady promises of online wealth dazzling, and sometimes forgot that a business requires investment (money) in education, start up costs, etc, etc. Will visit your site.
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        • Profile picture of the author Angela V. Edwards
          Originally Posted by Eric Lorence View Post

          That the "Cash ain't Easy"!... sorry, couldn't resist.

          Yeah, that's probably the biggest one, for sure. The next one is, like the others said, information overload.
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        • Profile picture of the author WebSlicers
          Originally Posted by Eric Lorence View Post

          That the "Cash ain't Easy"!... sorry, couldn't resist.

          Very true, indeed! You have to work really hard to earn them. Especially these days... :rolleyes:
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          • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
            For me it was a lack of technical knowledge - it took me a long time to even learn how to FTP. Everything just seemed so difficult at the time.
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            • Profile picture of the author Carlsbadd
              Originally Posted by Hamida Pall View Post

              For me it was a lack of technical knowledge - it took me a long time to even learn how to FTP. Everything just seemed so difficult at the time.

              I would have to agree with this. The techie stuff is a big challenge and take time for some(like me) to learn.
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      • Profile picture of the author Wayne Liew
        Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

        My advice to newbies: Make a decision and stick to that path. Be persistent and put the blinders on to all those other shiny attractions.
        Totally agree with you, Kevin.

        Newbies are overwhelmed by all the figures posted by different gurus, without knowing that they achieve those numbers by doing different things.

        If you are a newbie, you should only choose one method to start off online and shut off everything else, including gurus that are doing something else to make money online.

        Remember there might be 50 ways out there to make money online and hundreds of methods to build traffic. You will be either mad or laying in the coffin (joking ) by the time you master all of them.
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        • Profile picture of the author Chris Dolan
          The number one Newbie problem is the Newbies lack of focus. In fact lack of focus means you don't stick at one thing or another and fulfill something.

          If you stick to a project, usually you make money. But when you jump from one opportunity to another you don't.

          The "gurus" don't normally mind, so long as you keep shelling out your cash on new products. But there are a few who do. Look for their reviews, and WSO's and stick with one, and you will make some money, learn alot, and gain more confidence.
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          • Profile picture of the author fxmmorale
            Originally Posted by easycashmethod View Post

            The number one Newbie problem is the Newbies lack of focus. In fact lack of focus means you don't stick at one thing or another and fulfill something.

            If you stick to a project, usually you make money. But when you jump from one opportunity to another you don't.

            The "gurus" don't normally mind, so long as you keep shelling out your cash on new products. But there are a few who do. Look for their reviews, and WSO's and stick with one, and you will make some money, learn alot, and gain more confidence.
            That last point about gaining more confidence is a major part of the reason newbies keep jumping from one ship to another.

            You're confident in your ability to work hard at something when you're coming from the offline world, but once you step into the online world there are no bosses and no daily accountability. Mix that with a lack of knowledge about the internet and what it really takes to make money online and you've got a scared puppy looking for shelter.

            Been there done that.

            The key is to exercise "common sense", which can be incredibly difficult to do because the desire to succeed coupled with whatever a persons circumstances are can blind them to what they knew to be true all along.

            If you want a moment of clarity step away from your business for a couple of days (if you can) and don't do anything even remotely related and you'll be surprised at how your mind will begin to logically put things together.

            Make your own way. Reverse engineer the information that you've accumulated and put your own plan together. Tune out all the other noise going on around you and just do what you know and you'll probably end up launching the next best seller online.

            Don't believe me? Look at all the books that have been written about traffic generation and article marketing alone. Are those methods particularly new? NOT. However each of the product creators simply reverse engineered the method to make it perform better.

            That only happens when you make your own way. Overloaded with information? Start making the information work for you and tip the scales in your favor.


            Want more? Check out this blog post here: NonStopMarketer.com


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            • Profile picture of the author Aare
              for me its: #1. Lack of SKILL (its make them confuse what to do after reading all the threads)

              :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author Raquel
        The greatest frustration is not to see results after working long hours and want to quit after 2-3 months of hard work... It happened to me ..but obviously I stayed and I am glad I did.

        The advise below by Kevin Riley is exactly what I did. I consider myself still a newbie after one year at IM because I still have so much to learn. IM is my bread and butter now and each day is a challenge but I am always glad that I stayed and didn't quit....

        People here are very encouraging and kind...

        Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

        Observing for the last few years on this forum, I'd say that information overload and too many options is stopping many a newbie from focusing on one path and getting to the goal. I see far too many who start one thing ... don't see instant results ... hop on another thing ... don't see instant results ...

        My advice to newbies: Make a decision and stick to that path. Be persistent and put the blinders on to all those other shiny attractions.
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        • Profile picture of the author roversierr
          Hi Guys
          I think I have answered my own question here as although I had my ebook product I really wanted the "business in a box" facility to be able to market it.
          Well this site has just been recommended to me by a very highly regarded source and basically it does what it says on the tin-This is a series of videos that will walk you through everything you need to know to setup your very own sales letter website... complete with an order page, payment links, a protected download area, and much, much more.
          Even if you don't know difference between PHP and a PDF ( That was me a few weeks ago ! ), this course holds your hand and shows you, step-by-step exactly what
          you need to do to get YOUR SITE up and taking orders - today!
          I've just paid $197 to join for the "gold" package , but if you compare that to the cost of paying just one web-designer for one site , it should pay for itself two or three times over just on the first site you build.
          This is what I've been looking for, for a long time.
          P.M me if anybody wants the link as I'm not allowed to post it here until I've made 15 posts
          cheers everbody
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      • Profile picture of the author Janet McLean
        Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

        Observing for the last few years on this forum, I'd say that information overload and too many options is stopping many a newbie from focusing on one path and getting to the goal. I see far too many who start one thing ... don't see instant results ... hop on another thing ... don't see instant results ...

        My advice to newbies: Make a decision and stick to that path. Be persistent and put the blinders on to all those other shiny attractions.

        Totally agree with you Kevin --

        As a newbie, I did exactly that ...getting caught up in a cycle. The hype on the internet is that it's easy and fast. Which can be once you know what you are doing.

        But as a newbie, we tend to interpret "easy and fast" as "instant". Since we're already conditioned to see instant results in our lives, (for example "instant cocoa", "instant oatmeal") we expect the same from internet marketing. And when we don't get "instant" results, we move on to the next deal, hoping this will be it. "My Instant Money Maker"

        The best advice ever given to me was:

        "...Decide on what you want to do and FOCUS on that one thing until that is making you money..." and now I'll add Kevin's ...put the blinders on...
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    • Profile picture of the author millionways
      Definately, You read about so much BS. My advice is pick on one thing! and work at it!
      I've found the perfect mentor to help me start making! Instead of spending.

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  • Profile picture of the author cloudchaser22
    They buy one product, if they doesn't work, they lose hope. Then buy another product. If that product doesn't work, they lose hope, then buy another product. By the end of 3 months, they have bought 10 products but no progress, and still no hope.

    I know because this has happened to me. Don't fall in the same trap. Stick with one product until the very end, and even when hope seems hopeless, still keep going!
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    I'm a starter, but I am willing to try everything I can to be a successful internet marketer and chase my dreams. If you can answer any of my questions, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you.

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    • Profile picture of the author LindaC
      The number 1 newbie frustration is what niche to start with.
      Trips them up everytime.

      My Best 2 U,

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  • Profile picture of the author PotPieGirl
    I think the hardest newbie frustration comes from the "self-education" aspect of all this.

    It's not like a college class where you sign up and have to complete tasks to earn a grade. All the while, the complete syllabus is right there and someone is telling you what to learn and how to learn it.

    I don't think it is as much the lack of a plan of action as it is the lack of a plan of learning.

    Just my two cents =)


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    • Profile picture of the author cloudchaser22
      Originally Posted by PotPie Queen View Post

      I think the hardest newbie frustration comes from the "self-education" aspect of all this.

      It's not like a college class where you sign up and have to complete tasks to earn a grade. All the while, the complete syllabus is right there and someone is telling you what to learn and how to learn it.

      I don't think it is as much the lack of a plan of action as it is the lack of a plan of learning.

      Just my two cents =)


      Jennifer
      ~PotPieGirl
      I agree with this. But I think a lot of newbies just try to learn as much information as they can on what works as it gives them a happy feeling, but never take action to go through the whole nine yards. I don't know, I think it's a lot easier to read a manual on how to make money than it is actually doing it.
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    • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
      Originally Posted by PotPie Queen View Post

      I think the hardest newbie frustration comes from the "self-education" aspect of all this.

      It's not like a college class where you sign up and have to complete tasks to earn a grade. All the while, the complete syllabus is right there and someone is telling you what to learn and how to learn it.

      I don't think it is as much the lack of a plan of action as it is the lack of a plan of learning.

      Just my two cents =)


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      Jennifer,

      In your opinion, if there were such a class, with a syllabus and all, with tests, quizzes and a "diploma" when you graduate...a course that you could complete in 4 to 6 months for less than 500 dollars...

      would that be of help?

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  • Profile picture of the author CBMoneymachine
    The number 1 frustration is knowing what to promote, doing a load of work and then reading something that tells them they are in the wrond niche and they start all over again only to read something else that tells them it's wrong. Its a case of the grass is always greener on the other side. Oh yeah not to forget procrastination - with too much info available peple spend too much time reading everything and not doing anything.
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  • Profile picture of the author tdpubs
    It took me almost 9 months to figure out what I was doing. I come from a brick and mortar marketing world and thought I knew the Internet. I got caught up in the conflicting directions of the various schools of thought.
    I'm ADHD and had a hard time sticking to a method of driving traffic.

    The key is to feel secure in your market knowing that the ones you choose can help you pay your bills and give you some play money. Once you can feel confident that the market is service-able, pick your method of promotion and give it a full month of solid work. Gage your results and give it another month of tweaking to improve your results. Keep going - don't give up if you are getting small but consistent results,do more of what works. Keep identifying the processes that work for you.

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    • Profile picture of the author alyoung
      Either doing too many things and not being focused on 1 or 2 things that make $ or not doing anything due to information overload.
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  • Profile picture of the author Julian X
    I think the number 1 newbie frustration is how to make money online and after that is niche research .

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    • Profile picture of the author marcanthony
      It's information overload and lack of implementation.

      I've been doing this for a little while now and I still get overwhelmed... the internet is so awesome. It's hard not to get rapped up in it.

      You can shop... read news... order pizza... watch T.V.... meet people... and more.

      Even forums are distracting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Asher
    In my opinion... the number 1 newbie frustration is...





    "HOW COME I'M NOT MAKING MONEY?!?!?!?"




    Yep. Otherwise, they wouldn't be newbies.

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  • Profile picture of the author tommyp
    I think the reason for jumping from thing to next thing is not always that people don't want to do the work, it's not being certain that their effort will pay off. So they get doubts and see the next thing and get into that. Then they hear about another way of doing things and begin to doubt again and move on, and over and over. It could be that it's overload and too many options, but getting enticed by all the options is because of doubt about what they thought would work, and not that they lose focus because of options. No one likes to invest time in an unproven and uncertain thing, but after making an educated choice some risk needs to be taken.

    It also takes a long time for things to click for most most people. It's one thing to understand something on a superficial level, having a mental ascent to it, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they 'get it' and take it to heart.

    That's why proven blueprints or paint by numbers type stuff are popular. They want the tablature and not have to learn how to read music.
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    • Profile picture of the author mjbmedia
      Originally Posted by tommyp View Post

      I think the reason for jumping from thing to next thing is not always that people don't want to do the work, it's not being certain that their effort will pay off. So they get doubts and see the next thing and get into that. Then they hear about another way of doing things and begin to doubt again and move on, and over and over. It could be that it's overload and too many options, but getting enticed by all the options is because of doubt about what they thought would work, and not that they lose focus because of options. No one likes to invest time in an unproven and uncertain thing, but after making an educated choice some risk needs to be taken.

      It also takes a long time for things to click for most most people. It's one thing to understand something on a superficial level, having a mental ascent to it, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they 'get it' and take it to heart.

      That's why proven blueprints or paint by numbers type stuff are popular. They want the tablature and not have to learn how to read music.
      spot on in my opinion.

      If a newbie knew beyond all reasonable doubt that if they did method A on product F every day for the next 3 months that theyd make a consistent profit after 4 months of $2000 a week, you bet theyd do it?
      But they dont know that, sure Mr Guru has done that but thats Mr Guru who knows 500 times more than Mr Newbie and has a list of 60000 and already has $4000000 in the bank and...........

      The newbie needs to do what the guru done when the guru was in the newbies position, NOT do what the guru does now.

      Yet all the gurus are licking each others butts endorsing each others new product launches in between surfing and getting drunk, that aint gonna make a newbie any money.
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  • Profile picture of the author ragnartm
    Making sales to your list, when I was 16 I built a list of 38 people in 3 days, using a simple method that I'm still using but has become about 80% less effective. However I haven't made a single sale or commission check from my list yet. And I think that's the #1 problem for many newbs (not the complete newbs maybe but people who still consider themselves newbs) to sell to your list.

    Just my opinion,
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  • Profile picture of the author lordgalex
    My opinion is:

    "What they did, isn't what they hope"
    That's happening to me too!
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    THE BIGGEST NEWBIE PROBLEMS AND SOLUTIONS (Brought to YOU by : TeenageGenius Solutions)

    1. Problem: Information Overload / Paralyed Learner

    Solution: Take a step back. You probabily know all the basics as you have read so much information. Now its time to act. Choose ONE step-by-step and follow it word-for-word, do exactly as it tells you. See how that works out. Keep doing it and repeating it for a week, see what you learn and what you earn.

    2. Problem: Give Up Too Soon / Move Onto Something Different Too Quickly

    Solution : Incase you didnt know, success happens just after you QUIT, but you quit, so you wouldnt have seen it or experienced it! - Stick to one method, lets say "Bum Marketing" when you have learnt what to do for one product, do exactly the same as you did with the first product (which you was told to do in a step-by-step) for ANOTHER PRODUCT. Then ANOTHER ONE, the ANOTHER ONE. Use the same methods, just change the product. And TWEAK your pages by changing the Keywords to better ones, experiment, test, change, test, change, test, stick, test, stick, test, change. (Keep testing your keywords, if they arn't getting traffic/results then change then and continue to keep testing them, when they do bring you traffic/results then stick with them and continue testing!)

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  • Profile picture of the author CBoy
    - scams: e.g. being promised something then being upsold for the "secret"
    - info overload
    - technical execution
    - not seeing significant results fast enough
    - everything seems difficult to learn or do

    I know this isn't 1 thing but thought it might help.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sean Gipson
      The number one newbie frustration for me has had to be info overload.
      Being someone who likes to read alot anyway, I found myself just coming
      to the forum and reading and reading to my eyeballs were about to pop out.

      I soaked up so much information that when it was time to put everything that I had learned to the test, my brain went on a major vacation, I had all
      of these money making tips and ideas in my head but I did not know where
      to begin to start with all the information that I had gathered from this mighty
      forum.

      So just within the last few months I changed my focus and my way of thinking. Taking action is where my focus has changed. Before, taking action
      for me was just coming to the forum and reading all that I could and thinking
      that when I did get my first site up it would be perfect and smooth sailing because of all the reading and learning that I did here in the forum.

      Guess what? With all of the everyday reading and learning that I was doing,
      I still did not have any sites up. So taking action for me now is alot less reading, and more of building sites. I think Eric Loviere stresses this alot, just
      get a site up and start selling something, you have to start somewhere.

      Sean
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    • Profile picture of the author Ben_Curtis
      Wow, I think Cboy has nailed it! Information overload and the distraction it causes are certainly obstacles to getting started, but Cboy mentions several other challenges everyone faces, and I think the most significant one is not seeing results soon enough. And that's caused by lack of focus and lack of patience. It's what leads to sinkin' or swimmin'! And we've all been through it!
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  • Profile picture of the author Habitat
    Not knowing where to start or who to trust. Not understanding the lingo - not seeing results..and not staying focused. And a whole bunch of BS ebooks.
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    • Profile picture of the author hazlan
      Newbie here. Here are my list

      1. How to get started.
      2. Information ovrload
      3. Scams of all the so-called gurus.
      4. No startup cost.
      5, No techical aspects(like creating a website or a blog)
      6. Reading and gains information from forum but still no idea on how to start.(damm kookoo)
      7. No one-to-one mentor whom are willing to teach you the ropes.

      However with this forun, i learn more everyday. Thanks to the warriors
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  • Profile picture of the author AskJesusLeon
    I would have to go with information overload, so many "gurus" out there all telling you to do this and do that...
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  • Profile picture of the author ejfern22
    Information overload is the number one newbie frustration for sure. When I first started in internet marketing there was so much information out there about internet marketing that I didn't know what was true and what was BS. When you get started with IM information is the key to success but you need to have the right information or you will fail.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Million
    That's a great one. Too many options, not enough focus...that took me a while to overcome (specialize in one thing and run with it 110% vs. try a bit of everything)

    Originally Posted by Easy Cash View Post

    What would you say is the number 1 newbie frustration?

    The one thing that always trips up most newbies.



    Just after 1 - not a list, but hey if you wanna make a list - go for it.

    I would say it is;

    'information overload - too much information coming from every direction'
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  • Profile picture of the author karlp295
    #1 I think it's definitely trying to stay focused. when ı was starting out every page screamed at me, click here and ı just got more and more confused.

    As you continue and with more experience you can manage to avoid going off track though it is still easy with all that info out there.

    #2 filtering out the scams and crap
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    • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
      #1 issue I see come up with my subscribers and membership site customers is Knowing what business they are in (or picking one if they don't yet have a plan) such that it is lined up with their interests and strengths.

      You can learn all of the system, plans, formulas and use all of the tactics, strategies and tools you want but you will not be successful if you don't clearly identify a market, a desire and corresponding value proposition of what you can bring to that market in exchange for profit.

      The good news is that once you have clarity on WHAT you will deliver to your hungry market and HOW, then you can navigate the IM tips, techinques and strategies much more effectively as you only choose those relevant to your market and business model.

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  • Profile picture of the author Spike SpiegelIM
    The boatloads of information, self study stuff that you'll have to tackle at first is indeed overwhelming. I wondered what works best or if this method works at all. That and the lack of immediate results...
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    • Profile picture of the author athena08
      I would definitely say that information overload is the first newbie frustration. It makes it difficult to choose the right path to stick with. You constantly get pulled in so many different directions especially if you subscribe to a lot of lists. Initially I did this to learn as much as I could from the successful marketers, but now I find myself unsubscribing to take control of my inbox and my time.

      Secondly, once a path is chosen, it is so important to stay focused and take action with what you learn to see it through to fruition.

      Thirdly, many buy in to the false statement that it is easy to make money online and take that to mean that it doesn't require much work, and that is false. There are many ways to make money online but all require some effort initially.
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  • Profile picture of the author bnking23
    Reading these posts is almost embarrassing, as it has caused me to realize that I'm guilty of suffering from information overload. There are so many ebooks and articles and websites out there. It's unbelievably easy to read something, which leads to something else to read, which leads to something else...blah, blah, blah. It can become an uncomfortably long road, which ultimately leads to getting absolutely nowhere with making money. Thank you for making me realize this!
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  • Profile picture of the author Clark
    Not having a detailed plan that is scaleable.

    ADD is also a huge frustration.
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
    Originally Posted by Easy Cash View Post

    What would you say is the number 1 newbie frustration?

    The one thing that always trips up most newbies.



    Just after 1 - not a list, but hey if you wanna make a list - go for it.

    I would say it is;

    'information overload - too much information coming from every direction'
    Do some polls and market research.

    You'll find the #1 frustration in all levels of IM is always Traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Preuss
    All good points made so far. However....

    Virtually everything people have listed as newbie frustrations are *symptoms* rather than the disease itself.

    I contend that the reasons like information overload, lack of focus, lack of taking any action, lack of sticking to one thing, etc......the reason all these things happen is because:

    The real first step is being SKIPPED 99.99% of the time.

    What is the "real" first step? It's this:

    Figuring out WHO you want to serve with such unwavering commitment that it doesn't just inspire you to think about it, it literally consumes you.

    Forget all the self-help books. When you uncover this for yourself, all seeming deficiencies such as lack of motivation, lack of action, and lack of results...all of these things immediately and completely disappear.

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  • Profile picture of the author dhudiburg
    In think in terms of frustration, it's gotta be information overload. But that is a symptom of lack of focus.

    Pretty much what 90% of others are saying here, but I wanted to get my "vote" in too.
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    • Profile picture of the author ogthnog
      As someone still pretty new to IM, I would say my #1 frustration was not really knowing what works. The 1st ebook I bought basically said to promote the ebook on adwords. It didn't say anything about the kind of $$$ you have to invest in your campaign. So I invested $100 in an adwords campaign and managed to sell 1 ebook.
      I wish the 1st thing I would have come across was bum marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author mbrown
    I don't believe there is a #1 cause for frustration although I would tend to believe that they get most frustrated when they don't make money while do absolutely no work. Not to get deep into cultural or social debates but as a whole society struggles with one main problem - taking action.

    While many take action they fold up and quit at the first sign of struggle. Instead of fighting through the learning process and taking the time to learn the things they are not doing correctly - they fold.

    There are actually several problems that tie together to cause frustration on a mass scale leading to the high fail rate in internet marketing.

    Here are a few of the big causes that frustration sets in....

    Their own mindset. Many newbies come in thinking you will never spend a dollar and you'll make a fortune. When in actuality it's possible to make money online without spending much but not likely as a newbie.

    People expect to become rich by doing nothing and spending no money. Good luck finding that in anything you do- anywhere. Think about what people invest to get an offline business off the ground. One way they could alleviate some woes is to get a good product teaching them step by step how to build an online business and of course they must actually taking action or get into a good coaching or mentoring program where they must likewise take action.

    Speaking of business that's my next point.
    Most people come online looking to score FAST EASY money instead of making a business out of what they do. When sales don't start rolling in, that's when more frustration comes in eventually they give up. Treat your online work as a business and land more success.

    Some refuse to learn the technical aspect and basic skills of using online functions to make money. For instance if you want to open a membership site there is a slight learning curve w/o taking the action to learn or if you want to write an e-book you need to know how to format and use a pdf file etc.

    Going back to their own minds one thing I always noticed from running offline businesses is that the majority of people want to be lead and told what to do. Without direction from someone else they struggle... that type of person needs hands on mentoring - there is nothing wrong with that mindset it's a habit of life for many. But thats's the point - most people don't understand exactly who they are or what they want or where they want to go.

    2 types of goals always come to mind. Measurable and un-measurable.
    Measurable means that you can track and achieve the goal. I.E. I will quit my job within 3 years by marketing (insert field) online. Then of course you'd have to take the needed steps to get there - but there is a path.

    Un-measurable is an open ended goal with no means of tracking. I.E. I want to quit my job. Or I want to make money online. A well thought out goal has a plan and course of action and that is up to that person to take it.

    Does it mean success is guaranteed? No. It's never possible to guarantee success or for us to guarantee someone else. That must come from the individual.

    Ultimately it comes down to the person wanting to make money online what is thier mindset and are they going to take action?

    Can't get traffic? Learn how - overcome and adapt. Get an e-book on it, take a course...

    Can't make your own product? Learn how. But, if one is unwilling to learn or even if they learn... but don't take action success will not happen.

    Just what I've learned in business over the last 12 years.
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    • Profile picture of the author youallnome
      Information over load is definitely a killer when you are new to running a business online - no doubt!

      But surely lack of targeted traffic has to be the number one newbie frustration?

      If you are getting good quality traffic and you are converting some in to sales, then information over load is just a small burden.

      But if you are not getting targeted traffic, and therefore not making money, then most newbies start to look for better or different information...

      Hence the over load.

      Getting targeted traffic to your websites is the number one task for any website owner. So if we are going to over load our brain, then driving traffic is where we should be over loading it.

      But converting the traffic to paying customers then becomes the frustration.

      The joys of internet marketing - - Don't you just love it!
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    • Profile picture of the author Dave B
      Originally Posted by mbrown View Post

      Their own mindset. Many newbies come in thinking you will never spend a dollar and you'll make a fortune. When in actuality it's possible to make money online without spending much but not likely as a newbie.

      People expect to become rich by doing nothing and spending no money. Good luck finding that in anything you do- anywhere. Think about what people invest to get an offline business off the ground. One way they could alleviate some woes is to get a good product teaching them step by step how to build an online business and of course they must actually taking action or get into a good coaching or mentoring program where they must likewise take action.

      Speaking of business that's my next point.
      Most people come online looking to score FAST EASY money instead of making a business out of what they do. When sales don't start rolling in, that's when more frustration comes in eventually they give up. Treat your online work as a business and land more success.
      I agree with Mike (no relation BTW, although my brother is also called Michael)

      People are constantly told from all sides that you can make $00000s / day or month or whatever while sitting on the beach for two hours.

      It's then very difficult to shift that perception to one that says...'Hey this a business and a very tough one at that'

      Which means hard work and some steep learning curves. I would tend to advocate that people new to IM start with the free methods (article marketing / Squidoo, etc) and learn first how to market...then you can move on to paid methods, list building, product creation, etc.

      It takes time...small steps.

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  • Profile picture of the author Li Weng
    what newbies should do - take action, take action and take action.

    Of course you want to be doing things right, but doing things wrong is better than not doing anything! if you do things wrong, there are solutions to make it right. But if you don't do anything, there's no solution for that.
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    • Profile picture of the author NewbiesDiary
      I've managed to figure out how to make websites, I've got swiped sales pages that I can re-write to suit my own product, I have figured out ftp, html and various other things I need.

      What I really struggle with is TRAFFIC and LIST - for a long time this has rendered me incapable of proceeding - I need a list, how do I get a list without traffic. I need traffic, how do I get traffic without a list.

      Also a great majority of the 'step-by-step' programs really aren't step by step at all.

      Step by step to me would be

      step 1. - do exactly this (and this is why)
      step 2. - now do this (and this is why)

      We dont need a big introduction, we just need step 1, step 2, step 3. We need to know when we are on to the next step so we can also make sure we've totally covered the current step before we move on.

      Picking a niche is also a pain in the bum, personally I've got this sorted, but I still struggle with traffic and list.
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      • Profile picture of the author roversierr
        Hi Guys
        When I say I'm a newbie , boy do I mean NEWBIE , however , where I'm at now is that
        I've written an ebook which I'm (hopefully) confident will sell ( neeed to decide how to market-i.e ckickbank etc). I Have also studied alot of copywriting stuff and have written a sales page( only in word at the moment) but it is complete , and I have had some good feedback on that.
        However , my big problem and/or frustration is - who do i talk to / where do I go / who do I trust / how can I set-up and design a website / design ebook covers / load-up my sales page / put links onto the site for paypal etc.
        In other words I've got the product but what would be great is to just be able to get an "all in a box solution" to all the other stuff so that my product is just ready to sell a.s.a.p with all the links I need to clickbank , amazon , etc sorted.
        If any of you guys could point me in the right direction that would be great , and whilst I know there are lots of warriors on the site offering the individual services , it would be great to get one conact who could "do it all" if thats possible ?
        All the best.
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      • Profile picture of the author millionways
        Originally Posted by NewbiesDiary View Post

        I've managed to figure out how to make websites, I've got swiped sales pages that I can re-write to suit my own product, I have figured out ftp, html and various other things I need.

        What I really struggle with is TRAFFIC and LIST - for a long time this has rendered me incapable of proceeding - I need a list, how do I get a list without traffic. I need traffic, how do I get traffic without a list.

        Also a great majority of the 'step-by-step' programs really aren't step by step at all.

        Step by step to me would be

        step 1. - do exactly this (and this is why)
        step 2. - now do this (and this is why)

        We dont need a big introduction, we just need step 1, step 2, step 3. We need to know when we are on to the next step so we can also make sure we've totally covered the current step before we move on.

        Picking a niche is also a pain in the bum, personally I've got this sorted, but I still struggle with traffic and list.
        Hi Stef

        You sound more intelligent than me! I hate all that techie stuff!

        I've been there and done that. i mean money and BS programmes. This guy i have met. Who actually cares and does step by step videos and explains why you do this and that.
        Has helped me put this together. Take a look. What you see is what you get.
        Let me know if i can pass any of this on for you.

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        • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
          I think the number 1 frustration for newbies is the psychological manipulation that they are exposed to by the many scams and pseudo-scams.

          How powerful are those images of clickbank and paypal earnings coupled with the oh-so genuine sounding testimonials?

          Many of the sites use powerful techniques to switch to visitor to the right side of the brain where they are susceptible to suggestions and manipulation. It's no wonder many switch from one to the next without realizing that they have been cleverly manipulated.

          There probably should be some sort of training or course to help newbies counter the types of psychological abuse they will no doubt encounter.

          If you are a newbie here is fodder for your first ebook. :-)
          Just because someone is new at something, doesn't necessarily mean they're "soft minded".

          From my experience, many people breaking in today are cynical by nature, and not as easily fooled.

          Hence the popularity of "Is this a scam?" searches.

          Psychological abuse? To me, that was the endless Britney Spears birthday ads on ABC last week.

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  • Profile picture of the author Punkaj Dube
    The number 1 newbie frustration is "How to take action".
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    • Profile picture of the author macknox
      Originally Posted by Punkaj Dube View Post

      The number 1 newbie frustration is "How to take action".
      I totally agree with this.

      The no matter how good the ebook... or video... this real problem is belief.

      Belief in the "project" of making money online is possible.

      But if you take another step back... everyone's computer setup is different and skills set are varied. I can still remember pondering over buying a domain name in 1993 from Netbenefit or Virtual Internet and they were charging top wack... where are they now?

      Can you imagine the choice's available? Only through experience will you know the tools of the trade... unless someone shows you step by step exactly.
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
      I would say the #1 newbie frustration would be lack of technical "know how".

      This is based on one-on-one coaching with many Internet marketing students (most of my students are not newbies).

      Many of them do not even know how to create a simple web page, or make a simple change to font,color,etc and upload it to their server.

      This is what I feel is prevalent among newbies that is VERY frustrating to them

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    • Profile picture of the author goldmember
      I think you all miss the point every post I see. I have done articles, SEO, Squidoo, press release, book/e-book and sold some. But not yet enough to get out of j.o.b.

      Now that means most average joes would like to make enough to just get out of job and also fund doing the IM stuff (like autoresponders, making sites, affiliate stuff maybe, etc.) But remember most don't have list or real site (not blog, Squidoo, Hub, etc.)

      So before the real business is built, I know there are people making the $50, $100, more a day without list doing something. But the gurus and others won't tell you how. And yes there are so many things that it is hard for newbie to know which is real.

      I saw a guru post on his blog that everyone was looking for way to make this daily job kill money I talk about above. Then he said he had found a solution after much testing of many sites to find real deal. He had link to a review about a data entry site that was same one another guru sent me in an email next day!

      Ditto for these survey site rip-offs. But there must be other ways people make the $100+ cash a day without list whenever needed.

      Again, I say the gurus won't tell you. Others won't, or if they do - how do you know what is the real deal?

      And thumbs down to the snobs who say get a real business. Yes we newbies know that, but nothing wrong with getting a base of daily cash to build with, even if it is not a real business at first!
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      • Profile picture of the author millionways
        Hi

        Been there done that. I mean Money ,time and BS gurus.
        I've found an honest mentor. Who actually shows you everything on video. Even copying and pasting!

        Take a look It is for real.

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      • Profile picture of the author goldmember
        Someone posted right after me, so I did not get any replies or comments. Any takers?

        Originally Posted by goldmember View Post


        I think you all miss the point every post I see. I have done articles, SEO, Squidoo, press release, book/e-book and sold some. But not yet enough to get out of j.o.b.

        Now that means most average joes would like to make enough to just get out of job and also fund doing the IM stuff (like autoresponders, making sites, affiliate stuff maybe, etc.) But remember most don't have list or real site (not blog, Squidoo, Hub, etc.)

        So before the real business is built, I know there are people making the $50, $100, more a day without list doing something. But the gurus and others won't tell you how. And yes there are so many things that it is hard for newbie to know which is real.

        I saw a guru post on his blog that everyone was looking for way to make this daily job kill money I talk about above. Then he said he had found a solution after much testing of many sites to find real deal. He had link to a review about a data entry site that was same one another guru sent me in an email next day!

        Ditto for these survey site rip-offs. But there must be other ways people make the $100+ cash a day without list whenever needed.

        Again, I say the gurus won't tell you. Others won't, or if they do - how do you know what is the real deal?

        And thumbs down to the snobs who say get a real business. Yes we newbies know that, but nothing wrong with getting a base of daily cash to build with, even if it is not a real business at first! And a system is good also I know - again who will show you a real one that works for non-geeks?
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        • Profile picture of the author TrendSurfer
          Gee's... Only in so called 'Get Rich Quick' arena's would someone expect a guarantee of success by someone else and a step-by-step program to make it easy to boot! Ease of entry has never been a guarantee of success, just a door opener with your permission for someone else to take your money and your time.

          This is my first post here at this forum, but I have multiple successes in multiple industries for close to 30 years. Not one of them did I expect a program to be laid out for me step-by-step. You have to be willing to work that puzzle yourself to find the truth of it.

          My first business on the corner in the early 1980's resulted from searching out a solution to a need I had at that time. In the process I saw a developing new, trending and exciting industry. The buyers of this new specialized consumer product line were telling everyone around them about it and how they loved it, that's how I heard about it. So I became open to replacing my current solution (everyone has one already) and thus became a customer of the product and still use it till this day (wear it out and buy another every few years).

          I moved quickly to become educated and became an employee of the most successful store of these products located in my area leaving a very secure j.o.b. I had at the time. That worked into becoming the store manager within a few months. Just over a year I had the knowledge, the inside scoop to open a similar business of my own. Interestingly, in DIRECT competition of the business I had worked for. Yep, I walked out on a big salary plus overriding commission on total store sales to start my own store down the street. Crazy, maybe, maybe not!

          Well, long story short. That move became a small chain of several stores that I eventually sold off as individual assets 6 years later. Why did I sell, well, I rode the trend and sold at the crest and found another and began again. I continue to do this over and over to this day.

          My post here is to say this... Stop looking for someone else to hold your hand, find an exciting industry experiencing growth and success and emulate it. Re-work your OWN program and do it better than your competition (who are all around you by the way).

          If you are finding you are distracted, then someone is simply selling to your greed and that is your weakness. Correct this now...

          Newb's, find a trend and stake out your future competition, develop your systems, commit to do it better and ACT. Or be lead around by the nose until you run out of time, money and patience. In this case you better hold onto that job if you have one...

          And for those Cash Cow wanna bee's... You better wise up, cause if you sell it, you better be willing to back it up with expertise and results. Or get the wake up call of your lifetime from seasoned real business owners who deal with REAL HARD EARNED MONEY.

          Just a thought here guys and gals. Good luck and thanks...
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    • Profile picture of the author gcjmarkets
      Addiction to The Warrior Forum (I stop by for a few minutes and end up leaving an hour later)

      Seriously I think The biggest problem is anyone can call themselves an expert and somehow somebody sold the idea you could actually build a profitable business without startup capital, and a business plan.

      So newbies go looking for the cheapest information they can find and 9/10 times it is worthless
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    • Profile picture of the author tiger325
      the overload of information....what to believe, where to start
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  • Profile picture of the author Christie Love
    Poor newbies. I would say the biggest frustration is... information overload. Whew, I sure remember those days. I thought my head was going to explode.
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    • Profile picture of the author ShayB
      Newbies need baby steps to make some money. Then they can build on those baby steps.

      Sometimes you just need to have very simple steps laid out for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author HallOfWords
      Speaking as a newbie I find my biggest frustration is all the BS you have to sort through just to get to the meat and potatoes. When you finally find the meat and potatoes you start to take action, but all the other BS is floating around and you lose your focus on what the good stuff was that you found. To that end you go back to find your path again and you get side track on this and that while you're looking for the meat and potatoes again.

      Another thing that I really find to be a nuisance is all the fluff these guys are putting into their material. You know the stuff I mean. It tells you how great they are and how they walk on water to make millions of dollars. Then they show you their paypal balance sheet. After all this you've had to wade through 5 or 6 (maybe even more) pages of crap waiting for them to get to it and they give you a list of what you need to do to make money. Of course the list goes something like this:
      • Get traffic to your site
      • Get an autoresponder
      • Create a product
      • Get a paypal account

      Well, duh, I knew that before I started reading. Here they wasted all your time and truly never say anything worth reading. I don't know about you, but the only thing they've accomplished is to help me decide that I will never do business with them.
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    • Profile picture of the author David Perez
      Info overload is really my own frustration. The way I look at though is
      that the info overload is like a weed out process.
      I takes alot of patience a persitence to keep taking on all this information in the hopes that you will at least make a buck.
      The information overlaod is a real test to see if this business is right for you. So far I enjoy the learning process.
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  • Profile picture of the author erickz
    yeah i am a newbie and let me have a say..
    i think the #1 newbie frustration and also the #1 hurdle that prevents a newbie taking the first step out is information overloaded !!!
    i started reading and trying to learn this IM stuff since last Oct 2007. since then i have been buying and buying and reading on all these money making tricks and methods and i think if you tell me ask me a IM method, i am sure more or less i have read or heard it before. but because of the exposure to so many methods and techniques, we tend to take action on 1 method, never taste any success then lose heart and skip to the next method.
    there are so many methods that claim that they can earn money in 24hrs, but to me i think as a newbie we need to focus on one and really persist in the method. there is no short cut to success, i believe.
    now i am trying to re-focus and re align my direction. hope that i can really find the direction to success.. lol
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    • Profile picture of the author millionways
      Hi

      Went through the same as you. Finally found someone who has taut me step by step. All on video, so you can go back over again and again.

      will send you some FREE Videos if it will help?

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  • Profile picture of the author traces2757
    Definitely information overload...it tends to choke you.
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    • Profile picture of the author cherman
      Well, there seems to be quite a few on here who think information overload is the #1 frustration. I don't know if I can pick one thing over another, since I can think of many things, but I do agree that information overload is a HUGE problem. I still have this problem once in a while, even after marketing online for most of the last 10 years.
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  • Profile picture of the author zerofill
    The number 1 frustration we hear often from people Jeremy Kelsall and Myself help who have purchased products that were good from other people, but they didn't understand... is the missing steps.

    Not steps that are missing intentionally...steps that many of us take for granted. For instance using FTP or installing a wordpress plugin, editing a html file, buying a domain, setting your nameservers for that domain...

    It isn't really the buyer or seller who is at fault on a lot of those missing steps. It is just stuff you don't include in every product.

    You see products that say...
    Get a hosting account, buy a domain, set that up...
    Now after that do this...

    That frustrates people who have drive but get discouraged on the technical aspects. They eventually give up...
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    • Profile picture of the author mjbmedia
      ok this is my second input but i also think the newbies 'inability' to let go of some of their business and outsource the parts they dont know enough about or that are too time consuming.
      IE their attempts to be jack of all trades instead of sticking towhat theyre great at and outsourcing the other stuff.
      Now I know why that is, until youve made $10k profits you dont want to splash out $6k on services, but unless you look at that $6k as invest rather than spend and until you invest it, youre not gonna make the $10k profit .

      Catch 22. you know what you want, you know how you want the site to work, how it all links together, the up sells the OTOs etc etc but setting it all up yourself is beyond you or it would take ages and major frustrations, by which time maybe the opportunity (in your mind) to make profit has gone as the marketplace has moved on in those 10 months it took you to figure out everything.

      Just imagine, you invest the $6k and everything is set up for you just as you want it or better in 2 weeks and youre starting to reap the rewards.
      So now you have $9k profit (it over performed due to being set up better than youd ever have managed to do it) to invest into yuor next project and also you already have some reliable help to make use of again and a client list of some size and the experience of the previous campaign.

      Or of course you could still be trying to work it all out yourself with major stress, no income and still 9 months of hard graft ahead before you decide youre too late anyway.

      Its a business youre looking for isnt it, if its just get rich quick then bye bye , try laying your money on the Lions winning this season or some other long shot
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    • Profile picture of the author roversierr
      Originally Posted by alferns View Post

      The number one frustration a newbie faces is a lack of right direction in using the proper online tools.

      In pursuit of online success a newbie purchases so many digital products and eBooks which ultimately turns out to be worthless. Instead of earning, he/she starts losing money adding to the already creeping in frustration.

      Therefore, if a newbie is fortunate enough to find the right mentor and proven online tools then success plus happiness is the guaranteed result!
      Hi Alferns
      Any recommendations on a good mentor then ?
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          Thanks-will give them a try
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  • Profile picture of the author yommys01
    I am a newbie but I think the number frustration for me is my parents and my inability to make money for the past 9 months. I have stick to my passion ( football/soccerfan) and weight loss for 9 months but I have not made a dime except for the 19.36 I made about 2 weeks back on click bank and another 90 dollars or so in adsense.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jigar Banker
    #1 Newbie Frustration...

    Being a newbie
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  • Profile picture of the author karlp295
    Informatio overload is connected with the huge learning curve on the net. You need focus and a system you say and yes so do I but a newbie has to learn even the most basic things which most of us take for granted. Every step of a simple marketing process is made so much longer because the newbie has to research, find answers, stumble through and while he is doing this he gets frustrated because he cannot make any cash. We all suffer from this in a sense.

    There is so much to learn - newbies I sympathise...

    Well I guess these posts are an attempt to help them out..
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  • Profile picture of the author geomat
    I think the number 1 frustration for newbies is the psychological manipulation that they are exposed to by the many scams and pseudo-scams.

    How powerful are those images of clickbank and paypal earnings coupled with the oh-so genuine sounding testimonials?

    Many of the sites use powerful techniques to switch to visitor to the right side of the brain where they are susceptible to suggestions and manipulation. It's no wonder many switch from one to the next without realizing that they have been cleverly manipulated.

    There probably should be some sort of training or course to help newbies counter the types of psychological abuse they will no doubt encounter.

    If you are a newbie here is fodder for your first ebook. :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Information overload: Bzzzzt!

      Take action, take action, take action: Bzzzzt!

      Not knowing the tools: Bzzzzt!

      Focus: Bzzzzt!

      Positive mental attitude: Bzzzzt!

      Lack of step-by-step instruction: Bzzzzt!

      Do you have any idea how many people will read this and find themselves still confused and frustrated? Maybe more than before, because they find whole new problems added to the original?

      Those are all real problems, but they don't get at the root of the thing.

      Marcus and Ken gave different parts of the answer, but nobody's got the real core:

      These people have no organizational framework from which to devise a plan and a strategy, and then to figure out what they need to know to make it happen. Once you know what you need to know, there's a ton of information on it, no matter what "it" is.

      When you have a clear vision of what you want to do, information overload ceases to be a problem and becomes an opportunity.

      When you have a plan that you understand and believe in, focus and action are as natural as breathing.

      Not only do they not know what they don't know, they don't know how to figure it out.

      Dammit. Yet another project.


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      • Profile picture of the author Breeze7
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        ...Marcus and Ken gave different parts of the answer, but nobody's got the real core:

        These people have no organizational framework from which to devise a plan and a strategy, and then to figure out what they need to know to make it happen. Once you know what you need to know, there's a ton of information on it, no matter what "it" is.

        When you have a clear vision of what you want to do, information overload ceases to be a problem and becomes an opportunity.

        When you have a plan that you understand and believe in, focus and action are as natural as breathing...
        I agree with Paul, once you have a clear vision and plan things start to happen...

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        • Profile picture of the author ShayB
          I don't know how to put this in a simple answer, but here goes.

          I think the hardest thing for newbies is realizing that they can take baby steps.

          They don't realize that they don't have to wait until they know all about SEO and all of those other things that they read about before they take action - they can start simply, then gradually build from there.

          So they get the "deer-in-the-headlights" look and don't do anything.

          Maybe that's the equivalent of information overload. Not sure.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Wanderer
      I'm a newby to IM but I've been bumming around the internet since its infancy and used to hang out with some of the old arpanet and unix gurus, back in the 70's and 80's. So I'm familiar (at least in theory) with the technical stuff. But I've gotten an appreciation lately for just how big a hurdle this is to a lot of people.. I've been trying to get some techno-phobic friends up to speed enough to at least be able to answer my e-mails or a skype call. These are people who have a skill or talent that could be -- and probably should be-- marketed on the internet, but it's all so frightening and foreign to them that unless I -- or someone else who knows what they need-- does it for them it simply isn't going to happen.

      Granted, most of the people who find this forum aren't in quite as bad a way as, for instance, my artist friend, who freaked out and told me her e-mail was broken because it wouldn't let her put a URL in the e-mail address box-- but for someone who doesn't know how to do anything more than send e-mail and search a topic on google, getting a domain, web host, using the web panel or ftp to upload pages -- not to mention actually finding a template or building a simple page to have something to put on the site-- has got to look like a pretty huge hurdle.

      So finding information that addresses your particular gaps in knowledge is a big problem. Just saying it's for 'newbies' won't cut it, because we all have different gaps. You need to know details of what a course covers or a product requires -- just like in school you need to know the prerequisites before you sign up for the course -- or in a physical business what specific skills you need to go out and hire.

      Originally Posted by geomat View Post

      I think the number 1 frustration for newbies is the psychological manipulation that they are exposed to by the many scams and pseudo-scams.

      How powerful are those images of clickbank and paypal earnings coupled with the oh-so genuine sounding testimonials?

      Many of the sites use powerful techniques to switch to visitor to the right side of the brain where they are susceptible to suggestions and manipulation. It's no wonder many switch from one to the next without realizing that they have been cleverly manipulated.

      There probably should be some sort of training or course to help newbies counter the types of psychological abuse they will no doubt encounter.

      If you are a newbie here is fodder for your first ebook. :-)
      Geomat-- this is a fascinating subject. I've actually been thinking about this for some time. I'm one of those with a big aversion to the whole sales culture. It took living in a country transitioning from communism to bring me to an appreciation of what sales could be about-- providing a vital information service that expands everyone's choices and opportunities. The particular tricks used to do the opposite-- to direct people's attention away from other, possibly better, options and focus in on a single, high-priced and often quite useless product deserve to have wider exposure. When I was in school, part of the Civics curriculum used to be an explanation of how propaganda works. A web page and e-book that does something similar for sales would be a great idea. Okay, I'll get to work on it... ;-)

      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

      ...When you have a clear vision of what you want to do, information overload ceases to be a problem and becomes an opportunity.

      When you have a plan that you understand and believe in, focus and action are as natural as breathing.

      Not only do they not know what they don't know, they don't know how to figure it out.

      Dammit. Yet another project.


      Paul
      I'll buy that! And I mean that literally, of course... ;-) I'll look forward to seeing it in your newsletter.

      That said, getting a plan together isn't a problem -- I'm actually pretty good at planning. The problem for me-- until I figured it out-- was that I was trying to force myself to follow other people's plans. Ones that forced me to do a bunch of things I'm really bad at-- and that didn't give me enough scope for the things I'm really good at. I think the real trick is knowing yourself well enough to be able to pick out the pieces that belong to your particular puzzle-- -- and respecting yourself enough to be willing throw away the rest.
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        Wanderer,
        I'll buy that! And I mean that literally, of course... ;-) I'll look forward to seeing it in your newsletter.
        You won't need to buy it. It will be free. That's going to be part one of my Christmas gift to my subscribers this year.

        Working on it now. It's currently at 70 pages. Got just a bit more that needs added to round it out. Fortunately, I'd already written most of it, and just needed to fit it together and fill a couple of holes.


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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
      Originally Posted by geomat View Post

      I think the number 1 frustration for newbies is the psychological manipulation that they are exposed to by the many scams and pseudo-scams.

      How powerful are those images of clickbank and paypal earnings coupled with the oh-so genuine sounding testimonials?

      Many of the sites use powerful techniques to switch to visitor to the right side of the brain where they are susceptible to suggestions and manipulation. It's no wonder many switch from one to the next without realizing that they have been cleverly manipulated.

      There probably should be some sort of training or course to help newbies counter the types of psychological abuse they will no doubt encounter.

      If you are a newbie here is fodder for your first ebook. :-)

      How are you going to sell that successfully...? Basically you are saying "Here buy this to see what you need to do to NOT buy so much stuff... and see through all the social proof, except mine of course..."

      Not very smart...

      You call it "clever manipulation" and that is so far from the truth. It's called marketing and their is a huge difference between clever marketing and manipulation.

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      • Profile picture of the author The Wanderer
        Geomat said:
        Many of the sites use powerful techniques to switch to visitor to the right side of the brain where they are susceptible to suggestions and manipulation. It's no wonder many switch from one to the next without realizing that they have been cleverly manipulated.

        There probably should be some sort of training or course to help newbies counter the types of psychological abuse they will no doubt encounter.

        If you are a newbie here is fodder for your first ebook. :-)
        Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

        How are you going to sell that successfully...? Basically you are saying "Here buy this to see what you need to do to NOT buy so much stuff... and see through all the social proof, except mine of course..."

        Not very smart...
        Are you kidding me? How about 'Save money! Learn to spot all the clever psychological tricks that practically pull your cash out of your pocket!' Hell, all you have to do is rewrite the pitches all the masters use on you -- the ones that have you desperately thinking that if only you had the money for that super-special, guru-making event or mentoring program you'd be set for life --and wondering what you could do to get your hands on that cash by the deadline of the 'limited time only offer'-- only target the consumer and get them thinking what they could have done with the money they've wasted on brilliantly marketed junk. Give them a teaser by explaining just one of the hooks. And then, when they buy-- deliver. Go over everything you've done to hook them in, point by point.

        Do you know anybody who hasn't spent money they couldn't really afford on a product they don't think was worth it? I don't. Think most people wouldn't pay a few dollars to learn how that 'buying trance' that had them convinced that they just had to have that product was established? And how to break it? There's a very real need for this stuff. And where there's a need, there's a market.

        On second thought, never mind... I'm all over this one! ;-)
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
          Originally Posted by The Wanderer View Post

          Geomat said:



          Are you kidding me? How about 'Save money! Learn to spot all the clever psychological tricks that practically pull your cash out of your pocket!' Hell, all you have to do is rewrite the pitches all the masters use on you -- the ones that have you desperately thinking that if only you had the money for that super-special, guru-making event or mentoring program you'd be set for life --and wondering what you could do to get your hands on that cash by the deadline of the 'limited time only offer'-- only target the consumer and get them thinking what they could have done with the money they've wasted on brilliantly marketed junk. Give them a teaser by explaining just one of the hooks. And then, when they buy-- deliver. Go over everything you've done to hook them in, point by point.

          Do you know anybody who hasn't spent money they couldn't really afford on a product they don't think was worth it? I don't. Think most people wouldn't pay a few dollars to learn how that 'buying trance' that had them convinced that they just had to have that product was established? And how to break it? There's a very real need for this stuff. And where there's a need, there's a market.

          On second thought, never mind... I'm all over this one! ;-)
          You obviously didn't pay attention to what I was responding to. Oh well, it don't matter.

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  • Profile picture of the author James Schramko
    Newbies don't treat this like a business. A website is not a business. Water 4 Gas is not a business. Commission blueprint is not a buisiness.

    Info overload is SELF inflicted. Who let the info get in the first place?

    Being manipulated by 'Gurus' is self inflicted. Don't let them manipluate you.

    Taking action is useless unless you know what action to take.

    Lack of taking responsibilty is what I see as the biggest newbie problem. Why is it someone elses problem to deliver you step-by-step on a platter with a silver spoon. Nobody will do it for you. Wake up.

    Business is about strategy and too many people focus on tactics and also expect someone else to do it FOR them. That is why they get manipulated. They allow themselves to be.

    Get a strategy and then work out the steps like Paul mentioned. Follow the steps as you learn what needs to be done.
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  • Profile picture of the author OpenMindsEnt
    For me, it has most definitely been Conflicting Advice.

    I'll get advice from someone and get all excited. I'll be ready to go implement it. Then I'll hear someone else tell me to do the opposite, and I become confused and lose hope.

    An common example of this is how some people say that getting into a competitive niche is the way to go as it is where most of the money is.

    Then someone else will say that it is near impossible due to the amount of competition, and advise getting into small niches.

    Because determining a market is one of the first steps to be taken, newbs (like myself) are confused and lost RIGHT from the start.
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  • Profile picture of the author Khalil Bashir
    I would say it's not having a vision for your business and not knowing what types of marketing strategies it takes for you to get that business off the ground. Since there is a lack of the first two factors alot of quitting starts to take place due to lack of solid information, many attractive get rich quick schemes being offered to them and unreal expectations. Alot of people when you analyze what they are after want quick money up front with no plan for making megabucks, so when they don't get what they want they quit. If the newbie started out with a plan that focused on building a long term business that made a lot of money, they probably wouldn't quit early because they would know it's going to require them to put some time into it.
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  • Profile picture of the author dsmpublishing
    I think newbies dont realise how much work is actually involved to get a business set up and automated. they just look at how little work is involved once it is automated.
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  • Profile picture of the author jimcal
    I think the number one problem is not having a blueprint to take action. Get on ebay and sell something from your house. It is easy to do and gives the seller confidence that they can do it. Ebay has excellent instructional videos which explain how to do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author tommygadget
    Paul's got it right. PLANNING! I rarely hear about newbies planning their way to success. That is why they stay newbies. You must PLAN to succeed. Without a map to success, how are you going to get there? Once you have a plan, implementation is just a matter of connecting the dots. If you don't have the knowledge to complete one of the steps, come here for help. Don't let that stop you. Now stop reading this and go create your plan for success.

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  • Profile picture of the author Scott_Thomas
    along the lines of information overload...biggest frustration is being bombarded and distracted by daily offers of the next best thing and mega product launches.

    If you can't focus on one path/plan and make it work for you without being distracted by better/faster/newer ways to do it...you will ultimately fail.

    There will always be something newer/faster/better later after you've had a chance to learn and started to build on your successes.

    FOCUS and TAKE ACTION!!
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  • I'd say more people mess up , because they want the cart before the horse, inother words, people buy a computer and think they become rich once on the Internet. Only trouble is they can even figure out how to get thier email. If you have no computer skills get real. Most Internet Millionaires and do full scripts and codes on there websites with no help and many know tons of computer hanking tips. It would take the average person 15 years to get there. You need skills.
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    • Profile picture of the author millionways
      Hi

      Ahh, but i don't know all the techie stuff! And to be honest i don't really want to! But that doesn't stop a true entrepeneur!
      I Got myself a techie kid to do it for me!
      Now I've got the perfect mentor, the futures looking bright.
      So never say never?

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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Most Internet Millionaires and do full scripts and codes on there websites with no help and many know tons of computer hanking tips. It would take the average person 15 years to get there. You need skills.
      With all due respect... You're insane.

      Yanik does pretty well. By the time he made his first million online, I don't think he even knew basic HTML. I'd bet good money he still doesn't speak any scripting language at all, and I'd be surprised if he did any of the tech stuff himself.

      Yes, you need skills. You don't need technical skills, though. Mostly, you need thinking skills and some facility with basic math.
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    they think its a winning lottery ticket
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  • Profile picture of the author J A Neal
    I think starting with a niche you have some knowledge about would help most newbies. Most are bombarded with the IM products they usually don't understand.

    If they really take a little time to brainstorm, they are surprised how much they can offer about something they already like and will probably be more focused. I always find my research goes more smoothly if I enjoy the subject matter.
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    • Profile picture of the author youallnome
      Wow. This post has given so many different answers to one question!

      It is great to see all the different views from different warriors on the number one newbie frustration. Some have even decided to hate the guru's. I guess it just goes to show that success is not so cut and dry. Or at least not at the beginning of the journey.

      The biggest mistake I think we all make is expecting instant results. We all seem to assume that the internet is a magically place where miracles happen in a short amount of time. And I say that respectfully, not as a moan.

      The internet is an amazing place to make money. But I doubt you'll find an honest person who would say they got rich quick. All the internet does is level the playing field a little bit better. There is just too much information with to many different ways to succeed. Newbies are tempted by the bright lights, which includes every one of us at the beginning.

      So the number one frustration is money. And the lack of it.

      It takes time and hard work to earn money, as I'm sure you'll agree. There is a great deal to learn, and learning takes time. The most accurate answer has been mentioned a few times. However, in my opinion Paul Myers is about as good as it gets.

      This is what Paul Myers wrote:
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      Information overload: Bzzzzt!

      Take action, take action, take action: Bzzzzt!

      Not knowing the tools: Bzzzzt!

      Focus: Bzzzzt!

      Positive mental attitude: Bzzzzt!

      Lack of step-by-step instruction: Bzzzzt!

      Do you have any idea how many people will read this and find themselves still confused and frustrated? Maybe more than before, because they find whole new problems added to the original?

      Those are all real problems, but they don't get at the root of the thing.

      Marcus and Ken gave different parts of the answer, but nobody's got the real core:

      These people have no organizational framework from which to devise a plan and a strategy, and then to figure out what they need to know to make it happen. Once you know what you need to know, there's a ton of information on it, no matter what "it" is.

      When you have a clear vision of what you want to do, information overload ceases to be a problem and becomes an opportunity.

      When you have a plan that you understand and believe in, focus and action are as natural as breathing.

      Not only do they not know what they don't know, they don't know how to figure it out.

      Dammit. Yet another project.


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      I agree with Paul on this one.

      Learn some basic rules, have a plan, take action, prepare to take lots of knocks, take more action, drive traffic, analyse, test, take more action, drive more traffic...

      And of course, build a list!

      Success is out there, but you have to think long term.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fittestguy
    My no 1 frustration is how to manage to do all you have to do to be succesfull like: the site, the traffic part, product creation.... Sometimes I want to do everything at the same time to have money more quickly but it doesn't work at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Sheltraw
    There are many ways of saying the same thing but I would say the number 1 frustration comes from being a butterfly and fluttering from one thing to another with no real direction or determination to see something thru.

    There is always a "Better" way or a "Faster" way or an "Easier" way.

    I've done it! I wrote an article once and it didn't make me rich!

    I did a Sig Line and didn't sell a thousand copies with 3 posts.

    I created a web site and they DID NOT flock to my site!

    Go Figure!

    I'm reminded of the story of the Class Clown that went to his High School 10th Class Reunion in a limo and a Tux. He was asked how he made so much money when it was thought that he would be the class failure.

    He stated that he found the secret. If you buy something for $2 and sell it for $5, that 3 percent markup will make you a lot of money!

    I believe the Internet allows us to all start out even. It's an old saying that those that succeed are those that learn from their mistakes. We all have them!

    Just look at your collection of FREE eBooks that are still unread and you'll see what I mean.

    Just my 2-cents.

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  • Profile picture of the author Norma Holt
    I think it is the lies that so-called gurus promote. People who are unaware of the tricks to get their money fall for the 'millionaire' status and the triggers that rope them in to hopeless schemes and worthless tools, books etc.

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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      **From 'Newbie' Perspective**

      I would say that rather than info overload, fast talking gurus, and different opportunities from different experts everywhere you look. That the number #1 frustration would be;

      Plan/Assistance

      Reason i put both down is because assistance can come in the form of a well layed out plan and a plan is certainly assistance, you know stay within these borders type of deal.

      I have been reading, writing, and exploring the internet marketing industry for 4 years now. Only until just recently have i devised a plan and tried gravitating towards mentors, trainers and training grounds like this forum for example.

      Internet Marketing from my perception is probably the most under rated form of marketing by most so called 'marketing experts' usually within the corporate sector. But is a profession like any other. Race car driver, surgeon, politician, lawyer, mechanic etc...

      So you either have to be a natural at it and pick it up straight away or like the rest of us have to teach yourself and learn from your own mistakes and pick the good from the bad.

      You cant just go do a 2 year course and Bam! Your making 150k a year. Main reason from my perspective is that most people dont even know what an internet marketer is and that its one of the most fast changing industries we know.

      Still to date where i live there is only 1 internet marketing course you can do in Australia. Only 1. That speaks for itself.

      Ever since i started i always wondered why there was not just a simple course you could do where you would not only learn the most up to date info on the industry but where you would also receive the latest tools(software etc) and be able to ask the teacher( marketer or ex marketer) questions to your dilemmas whenever you like.

      You know like a real mentor, someone to assist you all the way.

      But to counter my own argument. I think that the way the industry is structured at the moment, the guys who make it have worked really hard and no one can deny this, so in a sense the fact that there is not much 'structured organized help' and you do in fact make it, well then the pay off is huge. So for this i really admire and respect the guys that are in fact making 50k a month.

      Adding to that, i certainly believe it possible to make this kind of money on the internet with no formal qualifications at all, and thats the best and worst part.
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  • Profile picture of the author gargoyle
    I Agree-Information overload gets me everytime
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  • Profile picture of the author rdmorrow
    Hi,
    The number 1 newbie frustration is the learning curve. There is so much to learn before you make a dime.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
    So who else is putting together a 'Number 1 Newbie Frustration' ebook describing the techniques revealed in the post?

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  • Profile picture of the author DrexV
    For me its been the "This is what you need to do and we're only going to vaguely describe how you actually do it." information that is being sold in these IM programs.

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  • Profile picture of the author mudmat
    Originally Posted by Easy Cash View Post

    What would you say is the number 1 newbie frustration?

    The one thing that always trips up most newbies.



    Just after 1 - not a list, but hey if you wanna make a list - go for it.

    I would say it is;

    'information overload - too much information coming from every direction'
    Yep, I totally agree with you. It happens to me before.

    Too much information that we get lost in the IM scene..
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  • Profile picture of the author Lexiranae
    I guess my number one frustration, as a newbie, has already been stated a number of times. I would have to say its the problem of how to get started in whatever you are trying to do. You come across some new idea and it sounds great on paper, then you decide to go for it and its like everhthing is overwhelming. Sometimes its easiest just to sit down and make out a plan of what is the best way to proceed from start to finish. But also if you include some, "In case of 'this' then try 'this." or maybe "When you get to this point don't give up, just keep working at it." It really seems to help a great deal.
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    • Profile picture of the author JCWHong
      I think it's a combination of information overload, not having an established step-by-step process down, and not having individual coaching from someone who has been successful with internet marketing.
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      • Profile picture of the author mjbmedia
        Just to add a new angle to this thread

        the problem for people trying to supply solutions is that all newbies have differing levels of knowledge and abilities in all the areas of IM.
        So some advice can be technically heavy but not everyone needs all that, others can be strategy heavy and very little tecchy stuff leaving many people chomping at the bit to take action but stuck cos of the lack of their technical knowhow etc etc

        So its really tough to get every single possible weakness covered especially when newbies mainly dont have huge amounts of cash to spend so the prices of the training normally have to be set relatively low, yet the newbies expect all their individual unique questions to be fully answered.
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  • Profile picture of the author Audrey Harvey
    I'm probably technically not a real newbie, I've been here a while and have made some pocket money, but my personal biggest frustration that drives me insane is I have absolutely no idea how to make and upload a download page. I've googled for instructions, and tried lots of things but it just doesn't seem to want to happen for me.

    If someone can direct me to simple and straightforward instructions on how to create a download page and where to upload to my hosting, I'd be eternally grateful.

    Audrey
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  • Profile picture of the author karlp295
    I think from what ı went through another important thing is accepting that such small changes in terms of words, layout, design and tactics can make such a huge difference.

    I didnt believe that changing one word in a link text could affect conversion but it can...

    Another thing that newbies find frustrating is finding answers because the only answer is to test as every site, every market is unique
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  • Profile picture of the author richfit
    Information overload probably is a major problem but I would say that the reason for information overload is, "Not taking Action."

    You have to take action on the information you receive...

    In the Future of Information Marketing I was interviewed the other day and I spoke about this problem saying that if you're not delivering SHAC then you're going to fall way behind...

    Check it out at info-riches.com/blog

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  • Profile picture of the author Opalinereverie
    For me, it wasn't only information overload, but also after I got something receiving decent traffic ( that is, a handful of visitors a day) I could never seem to convert any of those visitors into buyers, regardless what method I was using.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gilby
    My biggest frustration is receiving 20 emails a day with offers from gurus. They all look good and the temptation is to buy everything until you're broke. I've settled in on only one project at a time until I make some money.Then, and only then, can I move on to the next one.
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  • Profile picture of the author eajones
    Along with information overload, there is a lack of focus and not knowing what action to take. The newbie really does not know where to start unless they have a real mentor that will set up a step-by-step plan to follow.

    Most newbies continue to chase the hope of making money online by buying every ebook, course or seminar because that is what is presented to them. They don't know any better.
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  • Profile picture of the author jazzyjeff
    Number one on my list is being able to "focus" on just one method and do it to the best of my ability.

    I've gone from method to method and only made a few sales here and there. If I had only focused I would be sitting pretty now.

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  • Profile picture of the author mbealmear
    I think the #1 problem is that newbies are coming in epecting to make money overnight and not taking the time to realize that this IS a business and that it does take time to establish your business and learn the different techniques.
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  • Profile picture of the author Li Weng
    I think there are 2 major problems newbies face.

    Number 1 is that they don't have a clear road-map, and they feel like they need to know absolutely everything to take that first step.

    My suggestion for this problem would be - Just take action. It doesn't matter what you don't know. It's implementing what you do know that's important.

    When you learn something, immediately implement it. It might not work like magic the first go, but at least you're putting knowledge into practise, and you will get better and better at it.

    Another problem is that newbies are still skeptical about it all. They cannot get past their doubts and limiting beliefs about whether or not they can actually make money online.

    So they don't want to take the risk.

    But I say, the biggest risk in life is to end up achieving none of your dreams just because you were afraid to take a risk!

    Believe you can do it. If other people are making hundreds and millions from the internet, so can you!
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    • Profile picture of the author Peggy Baron
      I agree with so much said here.
      Li Weng just touched on what I wanted to add - doubts and self-limiting beliefs. For a lot of new people it's just plain scary to get started. They look at how much the gurus know and how much they, themselves, don't know and don't feel they have anything to contribute. They forget that even the gurus started in the same spot they're standing now.

      When you're new there are a lot of times when you're be faced with having to step outside your comfort zone. Do you do it anyway? Or stay in your cocoon? Scary stuff for many... until they start seeing some success.

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  • Profile picture of the author angela99
    Judging from what newbies say when they do make money it seems that their #1 frustration stems from a lack of belief in themselves combined with a distrust of the method they've chosen to make money online.

    Newbies say:

    "Wow! I really did it..."

    "I just got paid $X... it works!"

    "I can't believe that I just made $X for ________"

    There are endless ways to make money online.

    Pick a method which others are using and make it work for you. It will. And once it does you'll be amazed at your own lack of belief in yourself. :-)

    Cheers

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  • Profile picture of the author yfish
    I would say number 1 frustration is "patience".

    You can do all the researching, developing, implementing, maintaining but yet you may not see any results showing sooner than expected!
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  • Profile picture of the author jayden.fellze
    I feel the newbie frustration could be because there are so many sites and so much of information that he gets confused. Even before he gets used to one direction, he gets attracted to something else and the result is no success, lack of traffic, and frustration. So a newbie has to understand the business and get used to a particular type of work first and then after standardizing with it, he can look for others.
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  • Profile picture of the author iwebtopia
    My problem is not having enough time to do what I want because of lousy J.O.B. Can never devote time I would like to IM because always being at work and other responsibilities. That is my #1 frustration.
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    • Profile picture of the author mrsray
      Originally Posted by Cindy Carraway View Post

      My problem is not having enough time to do what I want because of lousy J.O.B. Can never devote time I would like to IM because always being at work and other responsibilities. That is my #1 frustration.
      I'm with you Cindy ... When I do get home from my J.O.B. I am so f'n tiered. I only have a couple hours a day to myself to work online with ... and even that is hard to come up with.
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      • Profile picture of the author Benchlegs
        My number 1 frustration is not knowing WHO to believe. It seems for every "positive" (someone telling you this is how to do it), there's always a "negative" (someone who says "that way's OK, but I do this").

        Because their is no one way, but multiple ways to make money online, I think everyone has to have their "trial and error" time to find out what works best for them. That takes time and patience, something newbies seem to lack...at least I do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Josef_Benjamin
    One of my biggest fustrations was exposure and transparency.

    Not being afraid to express myself and who I am to hundreds and thousands of people.

    There's more to being succesful online than most initially believe. They eventually learn the realities, and get fustrated
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  • Profile picture of the author jrsencio
    Information overload..

    not taking action..

    buying a product only to find an OTO which gives you a feeling that you won't make the most out of the product if you don't go for the OTO, which was unadvertised in the first place...

    misrepresentation, advertising does not tell the whole truth.. there are a lot of really good sales letters for really crappy products
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  • Profile picture of the author NormanSP
    Sorting out the good from the bad information is frustrating. The bad wastes time and can lead to a good product never being released because the owner can't find the help he needs at the outset.
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  • Profile picture of the author sinpeople
    I would say it is lack some sort of 'literature review'. Most newbies get started from one specific angle. Like me, I started from Adwords. What lacks is an overview of the entire business. I got to know the importance of building a list only 1 year later after I made my 1st sale!!! If I can have some sort of literature review at the first place, it will shorten that time.
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  • Profile picture of the author blairezon blenn
    Actually there are lots of #1 Newbie frustration:



    - Feeling overwhelmed with information
    - Feeling distracted by too many gotta-have offers
    - Feeling a lack of technical expertise
    - Feeling the need to know everything before starting
    - Feeling afraid of choosing the wrong opportunity to pursue
    - Feeling afraid just to begin
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  • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
    I think the 'Info-Overload' leads directly to the 'Where Do I Start' syndrome.

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  • Profile picture of the author Neil Aberle
    Well I can sure relate to this!

    I feel like I'm going through the typical path for most newbies which is:

    1) Initial Discovery. WOW, look, there are all these cool ways to make money online, look at all these other people doing it, I want to do it too!

    2) Immersion. Reading everything I can get my hands on, soaking up tons of information, learning a lot very quickly, but still getting completely overwhelmed with all the opportunities and different systems. Buying one product after another but never applying the system (who is not guilty of this when they started?)

    3) Spending many hours and dollars but not making any money.

    OK so now what?

    Well I think I'm right that the big difference between those who succeed and those who don't is taking ACTION! Doing something positive to grow your business every day WILL WORK! You just have to do it.

    So now as of today I have made the following commitments:

    1) Work with the programs I have, and don't start any more programs.

    2) Limit responding to email to 30 mins per day.

    3) Spend almost all of my day working on generating traffic. At least 20 forum posts, 1 article and blog entry every day.

    OK that's it for this post, anyone got any other really basic suggestions for me?

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author AdamPichardo
    #1 Not knowing where to start!

    It would be awesome if there were a step by step definitive guide for the person just getting started in Internet Marketing. With the amount of information shared over the internet, it is sometimes overwhelming to know where to start and what to concentrate on first and foremost and how to get off to the right start.

    I have just started myself and found some free training that shows you step by step how to effectively market any business online. Not any one system or ebook or course is going to give you everything you need to be successful in the industry but you have to start somewhere. It's a no brainer when you find the right free training!

    It's not easy either. You have to be dedicated and focused because if you don't you are bound to fail just like the nauseating 97% of people who fail.
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    • Profile picture of the author Easy Cash
      Originally Posted by AdamPichardo View Post

      #1 Not knowing where to start!

      It would be awesome if there were a step by step definitive guide for the person just getting started in Internet Marketing. With the amount of information shared over the internet, it is sometimes overwhelming to know where to start and what to concentrate on first and foremost and how to get off to the right start.

      I have just started myself and found some free training that shows you step by step how to effectively market any business online. Not any one system or ebook or course is going to give you everything you need to be successful in the industry but you have to start somewhere. It's a no brainer when you find the right free training!

      It's not easy either. You have to be dedicated and focused because if you don't you are bound to fail just like the nauseating 97% of people who fail.
      Yes - have to agree with you there. There are so many ways to make money online it is difficult to choose.

      When you do finally choose a method - you try it and try it and expect results quickly.

      Then - because you don't get results relatively quickly you get frustrated and try something else - which only compounds the problem.

      You really can't go wrong here though at the Warrior Forum. You can get help if you ask so this is the best thing about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author lkovalev
    I think the #1 newbie frustration is not knowing who to listen to or which direction to take...
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  • Profile picture of the author oneempowered
    Originally Posted by Easy Cash View Post

    What would you say is the number 1 newbie frustration?
    I think we're asking the wrong question.

    Frustration is a secondary emotion ... a symptom of the real problem. If "things" or "circumstances" are able to (or allowed to) frustrate us, that's a sign that we suffer from:

    LACK OF an overriding PURPOSE or DIRECTION

    In other words, these other things can only frustrate us if we don't have a clear idea of where we want these IM skills to take us.

    When someone says "I want to make money with Internet Marketing" the first question we should ask is "Marketing WHAT on the internet?"

    IM is like a set of tools. How can you know which tool to use if you haven't identified what you are building?

    A framing hammer isn't going to do much good if you're building a motorcycle. We each have to identify our WHAT before we can identify which tools to use.

    So ...
    • What need do you want to satisfy?
    • What value do you want to add?
    • What problem do you want to solve?
    • What hunger do you want to satiate?
    Even drug dealers choose a niche.

    Every IM newbie has to choose one too. You might as well choose one that you're passionate about, because you're gonna spend a lot of time focusing on it.

    There is no use forming a plan or taking random action until we know WHAT we want from it. Then we can choose which action to take; which tool to use.

    Once we have our CLEAR PURPOSE, "too much information" won't be a problem - it will be a blessing.

    Also, positive attitude and focus come more naturally when we have an overriding purpose and a clear vision of where we want to go.

    Choose your WHAT before you worry about your HOW. Don't buy any IM product until you have identified your PURPOSE.

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  • Profile picture of the author samples
    The number 1 newbie frustration is to many information's and reading every crapy ebook how to make money online...
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    • Profile picture of the author AdamPichardo
      Originally Posted by samples View Post

      The number 1 newbie frustration is to many information's and reading every crapy ebook how to make money online...
      That is the wrong frame of mind. There is never enough information. You may run into more information than you could ever use but the goal in IM is to create value to other people. You can offer value just by having the knowledge from an ebook or training course that the next person does not know about and right there you are more valuable to the next person and in turn they will look to you for more valuable information.

      You have to invest in your education. I have spent my last dollars on ebooks and courses. Some have been useless but there are many that have provided me with valuable information that I use today that prove to be invaluable and that I would not know about if I didn't pick it up. If you have that type of frame of mind that it is "just another ebook" then you are bound to fail as you feel you already know all you need to know to make it and that could be farther from the truth.

      You always have to be in the frame of mind that you are on a journey to self enlightenment whereas you are constantly learning and empowering yourself with knowledge to pass on to others to create more value in your life as well as your following.

      Even the top producers in the industry are still learning and teaching themselves new things. They know it was critical to their success in the first place so why stop learning. It only compounds the effects of the success they have already enjoyed. You just have to find the right things to pick up.

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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelPaul
    I think a lot of newbies are looking for over night success... I'm mean it's drilled into there heads. For instance all the ads on the internet just about pitch one thing... "GET RICH QUICK"

    So when a newbie gets started and they don't see that instant success that's when the frustration starts to set in.

    I like to tell newbies that its a real business that takes real work. Yes you can work from home and make good money just be ready to work for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Miguel Oliveira
    I agree with information overload. Just jumping from plan to plan, strategy to strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author netbizop
    Yes, I have to agree with most that the number one frustration is info overload followed by technical skills and trying to do too much at once to make that immediate income. There is too much hype on the things coming out these days and a newbie feels that the money is going to come pouring in immediately and when they get started it doesn't.
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
      I guess someone could launch a WSO with some of the info in this thread...

      But wouldn't just be even... "More Information Overload"?
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      • Profile picture of the author viryabosmith
        Originally Posted by Eric Lorence View Post

        I guess someone could launch a WSO with some of the info in this thread...

        But wouldn't just be even... "More Information Overload"?
        LOL!
        Now that will definitely be "information overload OVERLOAD"
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    • getting traffic

      The greatest site is worthless without traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author navi
    I totally agree with information overload.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Dolan
    The information overload generally comes because the newbie (and the experienced) sign up and are like kids in a candy store with too much money ... taking some from here, some from there, and never sticking to one or two ideas to get the full understanding from them ...

    The gurus are just a little more focused.
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  • Profile picture of the author brandonhess
    I would say the number one frustration, getting told all these great things that will take place, then once they get you to sign up or pay out your money, they dump you. You never hear from them again. There is plenty of that. Which is bad for everyone. not just the newbies. makes for more skeptics.

    You need a strong/honest team or you will get lost in everything.
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  • Profile picture of the author brandon123
    I think the # 1 frustration is not having the knowledge to know what works and what doesn't.

    Brandon
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  • Profile picture of the author jmmoore321
    I'm a semi-newbie. The thing that is most frustrating for me is trying to put together the perfect "game plan" to follow. For example, I've got a pretty successful blog that is finally starting to bring in some sales. Now I have people wanting me to duplicate that system for them, but I have completely engrossed myself in my niche and feel so daunted at the thought of doing that with another topic. But it could be a huge income stream if I were able to duplicate it and in a fast manner. So I would like just a simple roadmap for starting in a new niche. Lay it all out for me step by step. I just want to read the instructions and follow them and know that they will work. I don't want to have to compile my own game plan because like others have said all the information is conflicting, so I don't really know what exactly I SHOULD be doing and I don't have confidence that I will be doing the right things at the right times.

    Anyone have a product like that out there? haha.
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  • Profile picture of the author UMRK
    Lack of focus.
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      Lack of focus and consistent action.
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  • Profile picture of the author viryabosmith
    My # problem is list building. I just dont seem to have a clue.
    2nd is too much reading of one guru's secret formula, or another guru's 200page read of how to make tons of cash online. Im sick of reading.
    #3 is finding the right niche, and focusing on it.
    IM is so exasperating sometimes.
    Viryabo
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  • Profile picture of the author CDawson
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    well ive been a newbie for almost 2 years and I can say the most frustrating thing would have to be:

    1. Being a newbie when it comes to building good websites.
    2. Not putting any effort into IM.
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  • Profile picture of the author marketingmonster
    Just doing it no matter if you don't have all the knowledge or skill.
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  • Profile picture of the author dcushion
    Information overload, not knowing what IM products will really help them and...

    building a beautiful website with great content... and nobody knows it exists. Read that as getting traffic.

    That was my biggest surprise when I started.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
    Master some of the basics first:

    Choosing a worthwhile niche.
    Picking keywords.
    Learning the basics of SEO.
    Finding or creating a simple product.
    Starting your first website.
    Writing reasonable headlines and copy.
    Make a few sales.


    Do this and you will be ahead of 80% of people who try to make money online.
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  • Profile picture of the author youallnome
    Some Great Answers As Usual!

    It's always nice to see so many different answers, ideas, suggestions and personal stories of what frustrates a particular individual.

    It shows that most people think there is more than just one major frustration.

    I agree somewhat with information overload, although as one warrior said "you can't get to much good information".

    I would suggest that too many of us try to read too much information about to many subjects on how to make more money, get more traffic, acquire more followers, and increase our reach within the World Wide Web.

    One of the biggest frustrations has to be a return on investment (ROI).

    Whether that ROI is money based, success based or just simply an ability to get your website noticed matters not. Getting a return for the effort to make is vital to the success of your business and of course doubly vital to how you feel.

    And that surly must be the real number one newbie frustration.

    I think most of us warriors realise that success does not happen overnight. We certainly know that making money (and growing a business) requires an injection of money, time, belief and meeting the right people.

    So frustration needs a solution. And the problem never changes, and the answer is always the same.

    Traffic. You need targeted traffic and you need to focus every ounce of energy you have focusing on getting that targeted traffic to come to see you. And we all know that's the truth.

    So the frustration is not having traffic, and not having that traffic convert into a sale, or a call to action. And that is where information overload takes over us.

    I think we all (as newbies), try to read and learn everything that comes out on how to funnel traffic to our websites or offers. Beginners need to follow the basics. Stick to old fashioned traffic ideas and focus in on one area of making money online.

    You can't be everything to everyone.
    You can't do everything (every task) required to succeed online.
    You can't float from one moneymaking idea to the next.

    We have to focus our energy on one skill, one business idea and spend all our time chasing traffic, funnelling traffic, converting traffic and expanding our skill, reach and followers.

    Article marketing, social marketing, directory marketing, blog marketing and whatever else marketing are ways to drive traffic. That's all they do. They don't make money for you; they just drive traffic to your offers.

    Learn to convert that traffic and your frustration will get less and less.

    Here's wishing you a great 2010 for traffic. And remember. The warrior forum has all the answers without the hype for getting targeted traffic. Whether that answer is a VA or by hiring the skills of another warrior, or just learning about converting traffic to sales. Focus on traffic and swap frustration for success.

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    • Profile picture of the author fxmmorale
      Originally Posted by youallnome View Post


      Learn to convert that traffic and your frustration will get less and less.
      As a former rehabilitated newbie I'd have to say that the #1 newbie frustration stems from having unrealistic expectations that result in loss of focus and lack of determination to succeed with any method.

      Take getting traffic for instance, when I was new I used to think that if I was getting a few visitors a day to my website that I was getting traffic, so what did I do next according to the "experts?"

      Start toying with the copy to try to get the traffic that was coming to my site to convert. Nothing wrong with that except...

      If you don't have a significant amount of traffic coming to your site to begin with, all of the tweaking of your copy ain't gonna make a stitch of difference. I found that out the hard way and wasted countless amount of hours tweaking a site without a sufficient amount of traffic to test it to begin with.

      It's said that on average a website without a lead capture mechanism stands to convert 1% out of 100 visitors. So for every 100 visitors that come to your site 1 stops to actually take a good hard look at what you're offering, but...

      If only one out of a 100 stops just to take a look at your offer, how many visitors would you need to actually make a sale from the number that stops to take a look?

      With unrealistic expectations newbies are tempted to rush the process and then when the results don't show... now you start getting frustrated.

      Here's what I do now and should have done when I first got started that would've saved me a whole lot of time and made me some money faster...

      I should have learned to drive a consistent daily average of at least 500 visitors a day or more to my site.

      Whether the copy converted or not, the most important thing to master is the art of getting massive traffic to your site on a consistent basis, then you can tweak the heck out of your site one bite at a time to start making money.

      And before that, make sure what you're offering is what people are looking for in the first place instead of trying to force a square block into a round hole.

      Chances are if what you're offering is something that people are looking for in the first place, even with crappy copy you'll still make sales because you have enough eyeballs looking at what you have to offer.

      This is what the big boys do. Create an offer based on market interests and drive a truckload of traffic to it via ppc, or content marketing and tweak it from there.

      I wish I knew that two years ago, but once I readjusted my expectations and re-focused on the fact that whether online or offline marketing is a numbers game, that allowed me to simplify the process and help me to develop the ability to drive massive traffic instantly to any site I develop.

      So yes you have to learn to convert your traffic, but first you have to master the art of getting that traffic and that won't happen if you have unrealistic expectations beyond the fact that getting traffic will come as a result of promoting your site and in the end...
      marketing is a numbers game.

      With more numbers according to the law of averages, you'll convert more sales.

      Yeah, well that's what I had to learn the hard way that the glossy websites and ebooks don't teach you.

      Hope that helps in some way,
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  • Profile picture of the author Ditas
    indeed, information overload plus the lack of ACTION. I have been jumping from one program, to the next, and I have tried various membership sites. I am stuck now, and dont know exactly where to begin. I spent and wasted money chasing the "next big thing" out there and still havent earned a dime. Sigh!
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    • Profile picture of the author lonicera
      Another newbie here:

      There is no No 1 newbie frustration. There are many...

      Where to start, how to find the method of IM that is best for YOU regarding your skills, language, interest, free time, how to overcome the low budget... what niche to choose since we are not "experts" in any niche, how to find keywords, how to do SEO, how to write unique content, how to optimize articles, what to write about on our blogs, how to get traffic to our blogs, how to increase rankings, how to convince people to buy from our sites, how to build a converting squeeze page and build a list, how to create an e-mail follow up sequence and what to offer to the list, how to learn basic HTML, how to make a video if you are not a native english speaker, how to create our own product, how to create a sales page, how to create graphics, how to write a review...wow, there is probably more...not to mention the frustration of looking at 0.00$ day after day in our clickbank account...

      Where to find enough time for learning all that? WHERE TO START?
      info overload? definitely.

      But for me the NO 1 frustration is when some guru shows me his clickbank account on his sales page that shows six figure income and makes me actually believe that I can do the same with almost no work at all in probably one or two weeks, he gets my 50$, and when I get the product I realize that it is just not possible. again.
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  • Profile picture of the author kaos
    Information overload/lack of focus. If you were going into a real brick and mortar business would you be going in so many directions and changing directions so many times without developing the last change to see if it is working.
    Lack of FOCUS
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  • Profile picture of the author txconx
    I'm embarrassed to even admit how long it took me to figure out what people were talking about. Y'all throw around terms and there's no dictionary or glossary for it! I'm pretty technically competent, so it wasn't the technical aspects that were throwing me for a loop - it was figuring out what the terms meant and how they applied to what I wanted to do - or if they even did apply to what I wanted to do and whether or not I could make money doing what I wanted to do!

    As noted by prior posters, this is mostly self study. And for me, it was like reading a car repair manual. You can see something that says "connect the whatjamacallit hose to the carburetor," and you can look under the hood of the car - but if you don't know what the whatjamacallit hose or the carburetor look like, the instructions are useless.

    After that, the problem was maintaining focus on ONE thing until it was successful before moving onto the next thing. That has more to do with my ADD and control issues than anything else, most likely. And scaling up is still an issue.
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