Share Your TOP 3 List building Methods - No Theory Allowed

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How about we start a thread that EVERYONE can learn from ...

Share your TOP 3 list building methods.

Preferably give some details -- not just a bullet of the 3 methods.

Details like:

- How you've used this method.
- Results you've achieved.
- What you would suggest for someone just getting started with this method.

This could turn into a VERY valuable thread for everyone.

Cheers,

JP Maroney
aka "Mr. Monetizer"
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  • I like these three:

    1. Article marketing
    2. Video marketing
    3. Forum marketing

    In terms of targeted traffic, they all rock (if you do it right). But it can be a bit slow if you're all about the numbers. I just don't really like doing ad swaps. I know they work and can grow your list fast, but it just seems like you're sharing around the same core of subscribers (at least in the IM and MMO niches). I like to get fresher "blood" into my lists, and I'm willing to sacrifice speed and size for motivation and serious targeting.

    As an example, I have a list that's under 900 people and I just finished #8 on a leaderboard for a fairly big product launch. I beat out some marketers with lists 10X that size (and more). It's more about trust and relationship than it is size, at least in this niche.

    So I'm comfortable writing articles, shooting videos, and participating in forums to drive targeted, motivated visitors to my squeeze pages. For me, slow-and-steady wins this race. I take my lists very seriously. They're the heart of my online business.

    John
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    • GREAT first post, John,

      I agree on list quality. I'm venturing out to try some list swaps for the first time. Up until now have mostly relied on JV' (webinars, teleseminars, group product promos).

      I see you're "near Dallas" ... what part? I'm in Tyler ... 90 miles East of big D.

      Keep 'em coming guys...

      Cheers,

      JP Maroney
      aka "Mr. Monetizer"
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  • I agree with zeus66 with his top 3. Some say that article marketing is dead but i'm seeing pretty steady results with my efforts. If you want to see article marketing work, your best bet is to create 5-10 articles a day for your niche. The top 5 article directories allow up to 20 submissions a day, so this isn't even the max that you should write.

    Video marketing is good too and this is definitely would i what recommend for a beginner. Video is an excellent way to boost conversion rates and i would advise trying to create 5 new videos a day also. This may seem much for someone starting out, but internet marketing is tough, so this is what i recommend.
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    • Adrian,

      GREAT ... I want to add something -- then ask you a question too.

      First, I kinda HATE to sit down and "write" so something I'm starting to do for reports and articles is this -- and it's working like magic. In fact, I'm about to create a product about it.

      1) I set a timer for 10 minutes and brainstorm my main idea and key points. (learned the timer thing from FlyLady -- my wife follows her, and Jason Fladlien -- product machine there too).

      2) Then I move my title and key points to a 3-4 powerpoint slide template.

      Slide 1: Title (benefit statement)
      Slide 2: Key benefits of whatever method I'm teaching.
      Slide 3: Bullet points I wanna teach ... creates a visual while helping me stay on track.
      Slide 4: Call to action / resources

      3) I flip on camtasia and record screen video and audio while I "teach" off the slides.

      4) Produce to video.

      5) Rip to audio MP3

      6) Email the audio to my transcriptionist who turns it into a full text PDF report.

      NOW>>>>>>

      I have:

      a) A video
      b) An audio
      c) A special report

      Cool, eh?

      FAST FAST FAST FAST!!!!!!

      I used it last week to create a new program called, "How to Get Rich Giving FREE Speeches!" Worked like a champ.

      Now, for articles ... doesn't have to be that complicated OR long.

      Think about it this way ... the average person speaks at 150 words a minute (here in Texas it's more like 72 wpm :-) )

      If you "TEACH" for 3 minutes, that's a 450 word article. That's easy to do. In fact, I have a hard time NOT going over.

      OK Adrian ... my questions to you:

      What are the top 5 article directories you mentioned?

      And, how long are your articles (word count)?

      Thanks so much for sharing ... this thread is starting to ROCK!

      Cheers,

      JP Maroney
      aka "Mr. Monetizer"
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  • Step 1 - buy your list.

    Step 2 - you're done.

    Some sites that tell you that they dont sell info are just plain lying to you. You can find opt-in data to buy.
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    • BUT ... you can't get it into Aweber

      Will
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  • My top 5 article directories are:

    - Ezinearticles.com
    - goarticles.com
    - ideamarketers.com
    - articledashboard.com
    - articlesbase.com

    With ezinearticles definitely being number 1. I take a look at my traffic logs and see that out of all of my article directory traffic, the bulk of my traffic comes from these sites. All of my articles are 500+ word articles. I keep it like this because I keep in mind that ezinearticles can revoke your platinum membership status if your article quality declines.

    With video marketing, i primarily stick to Youtube. I upload my videos in FLV format (about 3 MB) each, and they upload super fast with pretty good quality. I tried uploading in .avi format and the file sizes are around 150 MB. With the FLV format, i can upload up to 10 videos at one time - and it isn't slow nor hurt my bandwidth limit.
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  • I like to use a blog with an optin form on the sidebar and the bottom of EVERY post.

    Also have separate page with no sidebars that is a dedicated squeeze page, so you can send direct traffic there (eg articles).
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    • Will, no disrespect intended, but that's only an issue if you rely on Aweber...

      JP, my top method in all its incarnations is trading value for information. Like Zeus, I like articles, videos and forums.

      If you know your numbers, paid ads can work like gangbusters. I'm still working things out, but the people who advise me say text ads for search (Adwords, mostly, but try the other contenders) and page-targeted image ads on the content network and similar ad networks do the best for bringing targeted visitors to your opt-in offer.
  • In my opinion. I really like Forum commenting coz I can promote my site at the same time I can gain so much from different awesome people about their professional opinion.

    anyways you can outsource them if you really want that edge.
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    • Great information guys!

      Keep it coming.

      @John ... Agree about the value for $.
  • Check my sig (free link cloaker) it's a brilliant way of building a list. (Slow but steady)

    Giving something away of value can be hugely beneficial, it's surprising how quickly it all builds up

    Kim
  • I agree with Jhon Mc Cabe, trading value for their info is the way to go, nevertheless I like
    speed furthermore this is what I do:

    1.) After market research, bid for some very specific phrases on adwords.
    2.) Create infoproduct (usually an ebook) solving this problem.
    3.) Send the traffic to a landing page.

    Am I the only one that pays to build his list in the beginning?

    The rest always goes for free?
  • Excellent post. First time finding it and well just great insights to build my list. Right now here is what I am doing for one of my clients.

    She is offering Live Seminars for future clients. I just create a customized Landing Page for her and we are using aweber and PPC with Google.

    That is giving us a great conversion rate in people opt-in for the FREE seminar and we are hopeful that more of them are going to Join the Program after the Live FREE Seminar.

    So probably what I am trying to say, is Use Landing Pages for giving Freebies and capture people's information and continue marketing to that list until your convert them to customers.
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    • Know what's odd? While I'm mostly known in the IM "make money" niche, my
      biggest list is in the health niche.

      And the way I build it is so simple.

      1. Write articles on health topics that people really care about. Things that
      have TONS OF SEARCHES.

      2. Submit to article directories, making sure I have a killer resource box with
      a link to a free report that is going to be of interest to the person looking up
      those problems.

      That's it. It's not rocket science. The key to the whole thing is keyword
      selection. You want to stay away from the ones where you have no chance
      to rank. I have about 6 articles in sub niches of the health niche that
      are on page 1, position 1 of Google...and that's with no other form of
      promotion other than just submitting to EZA.

      My biggest problem with this list is that I stupidly didn't think about how
      to really monetize it properly. So most of the money comes from Adsense
      when they get to my site with the free report. It's a content site with
      articles, products page and an opt in.

      Some opt in.
      Some buy the products targeted to them.
      Some just click on Adsense.

      I could do better if my AR series had more monetization in it, but I dropped
      the ball on that one. Most of the followups are pure content with no
      pitches at all.

      No wonder my subscribers love me so much.

      Anyway, that's it. Nothing magical. Just rolling up your sleeves, writing
      some articles and having a decent site for people to go to.

      If you do that, I see no reason why you can't build even just a modest
      list.
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  • Never had much success using videos hosted somewhere. Bad CTR despite having strong call to action at video end. I know quite a few get a lot of traffic from videos, but the question in our context is "do the visitors sign up"? Think about it- if somebody sees a video he/she is likely in a "I want to be entertained" mood. For signups you need visitors in a "I have a problem and want to solve it" mood.

    Traffic from articles converts best for me, because I presell in the resource box (as in "to get your free xxx and elminate yyy forever, click here". By far best traffic providing article directory is still ezinearticles.com.

    Second best traffic source is search engine traffic (very long tail).

    Nevertheless, search engine traffic is the best for me. If you have authority sites and put up a new page on a subject your site is about, it is indexed in seconds and (nearly always) automatically on page 1 of the search results. Add some link building and you cement yourself on position 1.
    The time to get a new page up and the time to write and submit an article are roughly the same- so plastering the authority site and building further authority rank with new pages makes more sense then providing new content to an article directory. Traffic from nearly all articles dries off anyway (some survive though).
    This is of course long-term thinking, for short term traffic articles are great, especially if published on ezinearticles on the weekend. A paid account with them is worth it.

    Websites are only a tool to get subscribers, that means if somebody clicks on a search result he/she gets a very enticing opt-in offer targeted at the audience.
    You need to give away your best stuff for free to get the opt-in, then give away even more great stuff and sell the advanced stuff later.

    Also, I am transparent to Google by using Analytics. There is nothing to hide because I provide regularly updated fresh content that gets the audience motivated to get their problem solved. So people read it and click through links on the site- what Google wants to see.
    At least, I think big G wants to see good rankings in factors like number of pages visited, time stayed on the site, high percentage of returning visitors etc. to boost you in their results.

    The easiest way to get returning visitors is tell your list you've just got a new, exciting page up and that they should check it out. This will help your rankings, what will help you build your list... a perpetuum mobile.
  • Facebook Fanpages and Invites to Fanpages revolving around games by Zynga.
  • 1) PPC - Be prepared to blow money to start with, do your research, discover buying keywords, test, measure, small groups of words, lots of different Ads
    2) Article - 300 word article a day on Ezine Articles, pick a keyword, get three more from google wonder wheel, be sick on the page in 300 words ranting about your point
    3) Twitter - Learn how to do it properly, research, micro niche, search.twitter.com, scale, rinse and repeat

    That has taken me about 3 years to learn all this BTW....I do a lot with video but not really mastered it to a level of measured success
  • Give away software where the software registration is also an opt in to Aweber. I had software written that is essentially a browser in a Windows form without the top URL visible etc. The first time around it will open a nominated web page with the Aweber form in as part of the software registration. The next time it gets opened it will go to a page with some functionality developed on top of Google's search and adwords API (traffic stats, competition etc). The software is download without opt in but the first time you run it you have to opt in.

    Michelle from Crowd Mountain gave away similar software a couple of months ago
  • My top 3 methods:

    1. Get your own product up and selling for between $7-15. Get a HOT converting salespage (10%+). And then get as many affiliates as you possibly can. Keep in touch with your affiliates and get them to continually promote for you. Collect the names and emails of each of your customers.

    2. Create another salespage selling your product exactly the same, but add a coupon form where visitors can enter a coupon to download your product for free. Find other people selling products in your marketplace and allow them to offer your product for free as a bonus on their download page. Give them their own coupon code that they can pass on to their customers. If you can add a OTO that your partner will earn commissions from this will increase the likelihood they'll offer your product as a bonus. This strategy will enable you to build a list of BUYERS without them having to buy from you.

    3. Pay for solo ads and participate in ad swaps with other list builders in your market. By far the quickest way to increase your list size. But don't overdo the adswaps, your list will get bored of them, and then they'll get bored with you.

    James
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  • For me, buying 2 solo ads got me close to 900 optins. It did cost me about $400. But considering how much you must pay for 1 optin using Google Adwords, it's a lot cheaper and faster. Highly recommend it.

    Joe
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    • Bought my first solo ads last week.

      I'm pleased.

      Will definitely do MORE!

      Cheers,

      JP Maroney
      aka "Mr. Monetizer"
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  • 1 - Twitter

    2 - Blogging

    3 - Facebook

    RB
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    • @Ryan -- mind sharing a few more details about how you're using these three methods?

      I think the thread would benefit greatly from it.
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  • We Generally do

    Article Writing and Submission
    Social Bookmarking
    Forums

    For few keywords on our site and for clients site we are on good ranking.
    Also we will soon start with Blog commenting, Image and Video Marketing. Hope to get more benefit from those.
    1. JV Giveaways
    2. Forum Marketing
    3. Creating & Selling Products
    They all work for me, but Selling products is my favorite as you get buyers on your list and I also get the non buyers with an exit pop. Some of which buy in the future.
  • Sell Products #1 ->

    1. List instantly filled with Buyers
    2. Assuming the product's good, easy to promote to JV's/Affiliates who will promote the product and fill your list with more qualified buyers stat.
    3. Rinse repeat
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    • A few tips we've found effective:

      1. Opt-In on About Us page. I first heard about this on SPI with Derek Halpern from SocialTriggers talking to Pat Flynn. Your AboutUs page is usually highly visited and having in-line opt-ins is a great opportunity to catch them as they're getting to know you. Start with why your blog is important to them and then get into your personal story. Have an opt-in after each section.

      2. Don't sell to your list. It sounds counter-intuitive, but for us non-serial buyers, the only way I actually end up buying something is when someone provides in the email or links to a blog post where they're doing something cool and they HAPPENED :-) to be using a tool that has a juicy affiliate commission. Seeing it in action and giving me actual real-life tools/tricks to get something done makes me MUCH more likely to check out the tools. Don't treat your readers as if they're stupid or simply there to make you profit...help them!

      3. Guest Blogging. Putting a well-written post on someone else's blog provides them with some free content and gives you access to a group of readers directly. Make sure it's in your niche or a related niche and watch the sign-ups pour in.

      4. Freely and regularly linking to others that have value. If you're linking to them regularly and their great content and letting them know, they're going to mention you either to show how popular THEY are or because they're flattered and want to pay it back. You'll pick up quite a few of their readers and get sign-ups this way and it works like a charm.
  • Though I don't do list building myself, but here's what I have learned so far -

    1. Create a stunning Squeeze page!
    2. Give something valuable in return of subscribing! Something which others are not sharing!
    3. Interact with them regularly,
  • 1. Media buys like solo ads, ppv, and buying ad space direct from website owners

    2. Co-oping with a jv partner

    3. SEO

    I used to do a lot of ad swaps... I prefer buying traffic instead these days.
  • I can't believe that press releases haven't
    been mentioned.

    I've had a lot of success building targeted
    lists by issuing a press release that announces
    the publication of a new/controversial report
    on my topic.

    It's well worth paying for a wide distribution
    through services such as PR Web.

    John
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  • Jason's post has just reminded me that I
    should have mentioned affiliates!

    As long as you set it up properly, you can
    add a lot of new subscribers to your list
    when you pay affiliates per optin.

    Alternatively, add an exit pop to your sales
    pages and credit affiliates with sales made
    through your autoresponder.

    John
  • Offering freebies like ebooks is one great way of getting lists then take care of them with useful contents. Don't spam them with offers all the time make it 80-20 and with your list you will start making money online.

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