If you write for HubPages....

I actually do have several hundred hubs but have yet to see one deleted. I guess they are doing this to protect their network. After all, take several thousand marketers, stick them in one place and I imagine they can do all sorts of damage.

As an aside, I have tested xrumer out with one of my hubs. It has yet to get deleted but that doesn't mean it won't.

I have never had any problems with hubpages. All my articles and links are still there :-)) It goes more about the quality of your articles and how do you structure them etc.

I've been following this story from the very beginning as I have around 180 hubs promoting Amazon products there. Crazy, crazy, crazy.

I hope they have considered all pros and cons. Let's see how the story develops.

Cheers!

I feel Squidoo Lenses look more professional than Hubs. I like Squidoo lenses.

If you read their terms of use they have no problems with adding links to your hubs. However they do have a problem with you spinning your already indexed article and placing it on their site. The way around this is to simply post one of your first articles their first or simply right a new one for them alone. Then you can place up to 3 backlinks with in your hub. However remember that if you are going to be adding an rss feed from your site so that the hub is updated every time you post on your site. You can not place any links inside the text of the article. They do tell you before they take the hub down that it is in danger of being flagged as spam.

I just ran into this problem. My VA can't submit an article. It says:

Sorry, because of rule violations associated with your account or ip address, permission to publish new hubs has been revoked. You can still edit your existing hubs and save your changes to this hub by clicking the done editing button. Your right to publish may automatically be restored through time and adherence to the HubPages rules. Fixing or deleting existing flagged hubs may also help.

Weird thing, is that I only have 1 hub on this account. And it's still published, wasn't deleted, or flagged. And I haven't built ANY backlinks to it at all.

But given their new policy, I am certainly going to exceed their backlink thresh-hold. I just read their vague stances on backlinks, and I'm just going to waste my time on it. I'm going to contact them anyway, out of curiosity.

Hubpages has always had a strict policy on links, this is nothing new.

Its been about 2 years and 3 or 4 months ago I created a hudpage, put 2 links and an rss feed on the page, and within 10 - 15 minutes the page was disabled. The reason - I had more then 3 links on the page. The rss feed had more then 3 links, so I dont understand why it was even an option.

I removed the rss feed block, and resubmitted the page. It was about a week later that it was apporved

Clarification for people who haven't clicked on the links.

This isn't about using Hubpages for backlinks (which they've always had some issues with and murky guidelines). This is about Hubs that are being deleted because there are backlinks to them.

So, if you used Hubpages and wanted to knock out your competition there, you could blast some forums and blogs with links to their Hub. Then pretend you were one of the sites spammed and complain about it. Hubpages will investigate it and then delete the Hub.

Of course it would be wrong to do that. But it could happen. And I don't like the possibility of being punished for something that I have no control over.

Sorry about your banning Bill_Z. I like the hubpages interface, but it sounds like things may be changing quickly over there.

Another case of a few people ruining it for the rest of us!

Wow! They actually say in the video that "excessive or outsourced back-linking will get you unpublished and possibly banned from the site". That's major and potentially "precedent setting" which is really the larger picture.

It sounds like a different approach is needed to keep Hubpages worthwhile for people using them as a bridge page.

If you work on ways of getting more internal links from within hubpages your hub should still build enough authority to hold some ground in Google. This is one of the reasons new and popular Ezinearticles do so well in the SERP; they have internal links from the lists at the bottom of pages which boosts their ranking power.

Hubpages must have a lot of direct traffic or browsing traffic if they think they can hold their own while alienating marketers who love to leech off their authority. Try and capture this direct traffic and you might get some more 'natural' links too.

If you find you are spending a lot of time promoting a hubpage, your time might be better else spent on promoting your own domain directly.

Hubpages just got back to me about the access on my account,

Turns out, YieldBuild owns and operates HubPages (which I did not know), and they use the same server to access my account.

That's peace of mind for me, but then I think that it's really self promotional of YieldBuild to use HubPages' success story on their "case studies" part of the website. I found this all quite interesting.

I would think twice about linking an Adsense account to your Hub. Are you monetizing with Adsense or with other links?

If someone decides to nuke your Hub by creating unwanted backlinks, that is getting nervously close to setting your entire Adsense account up for a ban.

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I wonder if this is because the hubs in question excessively promote one website with the same keywords. If I recall correctly, HubPages only allows you to point two (2) backlinks to a single domain from a single Hub. If you add an RSS feed to the same blog or site, it counts in the # of links and can get you flagged as well.

I have several hubs and worked with a marketer who used hubs frequently. Most of the problems with the marketer's being deleted involved violations of what I just described...

I have given warning on this issue. Hubpages is getting nasty and then some. People, take a look out there as there are much better services. It is time to scrub the hub, if you know what I mean.

Well. I'm done with Hubpages.

Plenty of other properties that don't openly encourage google bombing competitors out of existence. There are services out there that will make 60k+ links in one month. If you're having trouble getting rid of your competition on hubpages, look up drip feed blasts. That should do the trick for eliminating their hubs.

Ridiculous that they openly admit they will delete your hubs and potentially your account. Hubpages shows all of an authors articles. Nothing would stop people from bombing every single one of somebody's hubs with 1000s of spammy links. You could essentially make every single hub in somebody's account get disabled and get their account banned. You could do it on the cheap too....and quickly.

I wonder if Hubpages would lessen the number of link spammers if they made more people aware that unless a Hub has a score over 75 all the links are Nofollow.

Many marketers just go completely overboard in abusing free services like Hublages and many other similar sites. They don't give a damn about providing any useful content or if the overall site becomes seen by the search engines as a rat hole for spam, crappy duplicated content, and meaningless marketing drivel.

I am glad to hear they raised their standards.The people who care enough to bother to meet the higher standards will be rewarded with better search results and more readers.

Squidoo is my preferred place but they went through a similar evolution. When they first started they were golden to the search engines, then when every mother loving marketer and their mothers started dropping any half baked get rich overnight offer they could find there, all the sudden people started to complain how Squidoo didn't work as well as it once did. They did not show nearly overnight on page one anymore because the search engines recognized what was going on. After a while they cleaned up the place and raised standards. If you look up their traffic on compete.com it is growing quite well now.

This always happens when sites start to get attention, and are worried Google may start devalueing the quality of their PR unless they police it

Hubpages have flagged my 4-5 hubs, even after giving only 2 back links. It takes only 2 back links and they should be from different domains

They're just trying to protect their brand. Its much better than websites that just let crappy content creep onto their site without any type of checking.

Ive not read this whole thread, so forgive me if its already been mentioned.

Starting a "broad niche" site will give you the same seo benefits lots of individual hubs would give you.

Blast your broad niche site with enough backlinks and any pages you build after that will filter the juice down, meaning far fewer backlinks to rank whatever you put on there.

Too many folks wrapped up in single page/site/post mentality to actually realize they can create an mini hub pages FOR THEMSELVES with NO censoring if they put some initial work in and then rank much easier for much of what they choose to put on there, than creating 1 page sites.