Can I make money and build a list at the same time?

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So I got the advice of the many and I'm ready to start build a list! But I am thinking. If I concentrate my efforts to build a list for a year to build 5000 suscribers, will I have time to make money with something else in the same time?
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  • Profile picture of the author jorgesil
    You could make money at the same time you build a list.
    For example you can use your Thank you page to offer
    some affiliate product.
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    • Profile picture of the author oneplusone
      Originally Posted by jorgesil View Post

      You could make money at the same time you build a list.
      For example you can use your Thank you page to offer
      some affiliate product.
      How come you are using my avatar picture?

      Can you please change it, or it will cause confusion on here.

      If you don't want to, I will have to change mine as I don't own the copyright to the image but I'm allowed to use it.

      But I'd appreciate it if you would change yours, unless it is a pure coincidence of course, in which case I apologise for bringing it up and will change to my avatar picture to my personal photo or some other image.
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  • Profile picture of the author DianeBrandt
    Sure you can make money while building a list. You're giving something away for free to build a list right? You can set it up something like this:

    Message 1 - Introduction about you
    Message 2 - Give more valuable information away for free
    Message 3 - Get them to take action... encourage feedback on a particular related subject... could be to comment on your blog post or answer their question/s.
    Message 4 - Introduce an affiliate product (include a free bonus)... direct them to your blog that will give a video demonstration of how the product works and what you think about it.
    Message 5 - A personal message from you (not selling anything)
    Message 6 - Give away something else for free...

    Here after, you should have build up enough trust to really make some good money, all while building a list.

    I hope this helps out a little. Sure, there are other ways to do this, but I'm giving you a prove method. If it works for you great, if not... trying something different.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nour Saber
    As fast as you build your list you will be making a KILLING !!
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  • Profile picture of the author daalle
    Yes you can make money while building a list, you can make a blog and have a opt-in at the start of every article and show adsense at your blog or affiliate links. while you building a list
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  • Profile picture of the author Carl-Reed
    Many products have affiliate resources which include free giveaway ebooks which promote their main product, you could use one of those.

    Just create a squeeze page offering the ebook and have your visitors redirected to the main sales page once they submit their information.

    Some programs also offer ready made email pitches messages too, just plug them into your autoresponder.

    Doing that will give your subscribers many opportunities to buy the product you're promoting, making you money and building your list at the same time.

    You could set up a system like this in a few hours, then you just need to concentrate on getting the traffic.

    Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author oneplusone
    Originally Posted by MagicAce View Post

    So I got the advice of the many and I'm ready to start build a list! But I am thinking. If I concentrate my efforts to build a list for a year to build 5000 suscribers, will I have time to make money with something else in the same time?
    You can make money while you are building the list, by marketing products to the list while it is being built.

    If anything, you don't want to sell nothing to them for an entire year, as they will get used to just getting free information from you.

    Another option you have, and this is a debated topic - is build a list of 500 buyers instead by selling direct and forget opt in e-mails altogether.

    Then you are getting paid to build the list, and a list of 500 buyers will usually be worth more than 5,000 subscribers.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by oneplusone View Post

      You can make money while you are building the list, by marketing products to the list while it is being built.

      If anything, you don't want to sell nothing to them for an entire year, as they will get used to just getting free information from you.

      Another option you have, and this is a debated topic - is build a list of 500 buyers instead by selling direct and forget opt in e-mails altogether.

      Then you are getting paid to build the list, and a list of 500 buyers will usually be worth more than 5,000 subscribers.
      Expanding on this, one GREAT way to build a list and drive targeted traffic in the IM niche to your site is to run a WSO - it can either be a free offer or a low-cost offer (say $1 or $2). Obviously when you charge a small token amount (even $1) the subscribers will be of higher quality as they were willing to actually purchase something from you - essentially you'd be building a list of buyers.

      Paul
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      • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
        You can make money from building a subscriber list by putting an offer (sales letter for a product) on your thank you pages when people sign up.

        Kindest regards,
        Andrew Cavanagh
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      • Profile picture of the author regska
        Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

        Expanding on this, one GREAT way to build a list and drive targeted traffic in the IM niche to your site is to run a WSO - it can either be a free offer or a low-cost offer (say $1 or $2). Obviously when you charge a small token amount (even $1) the subscribers will be of higher quality as they were willing to actually purchase something from you - essentially you'd be building a list of buyers.

        Paul
        I totally agree with you. One good way to start building a list while making money is to run a WSO. You can run 2 WSO's, one for free and the other one is a low cost report between $7-$10.

        When you sell something for a low cost, you are building a buyers list, add something that can build your list faster by giving something away for free then market affiliate products or other products that you have to those subscribers that opted-in.
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        • Profile picture of the author MagicAce
          Originally Posted by regska View Post

          I totally agree with you. One good way to start building a list while making money is to run a WSO. You can run 2 WSO's, one for free and the other one is a low cost report between $7-$10.

          When you sell something for a low cost, you are building a buyers list, add something that can build your list faster by giving something away for free then market affiliate products or other products that you have to those subscribers that opted-in.
          From what I know you have to pay to run a WSO! I live with $150 a month. And thinking that I have to pay for the domain I have to pay $10 a month for hosting and $20 a month for aweber I don't think I have the money to run a WSO too! But thank you for you advice, I will use it when I will make more money!
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  • Profile picture of the author b.super13
    Yes, this is possible. What you can do is offer an OTO.

    So, here is what you can do...

    After someone enters their email address to their squeeze page send them to a page that says at the top "Thank you for subscribing, please check your email in 10 minutes to access your free download, in the meantime check this out..."

    or something along those lines.

    Then show them your offer or an affiliate product. I normally use an offer that is worth $47 or more and offer it for $9 to $15 depending on what it is.

    Also, someone mentioned using affiliate products on your download page, that is a good idea too and works depending on the product.

    Hope that helps

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author mr2monster
    Making money from your list WHILE you build it should be one of your main priorities.

    When I'm building a new list, I build the autoresponders for the very first subscriber, like i was doing it just for him/her... after that, it's all about testing and tweaking because all the new subscribers will experience the same basic thing. Think of your list as a PERSON, not an email list... and you should make sales, and have no trouble finding ways to enrich the lives of those PEOPLE that signed up for your stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author ehuq
    Yes, you should go ahead in this way. Make money from your existing list and at the same time grow your list size day by day.
    This is the best practice.
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  • Profile picture of the author drmani
    Originally Posted by MagicAce View Post

    So I got the advice of the many and I'm ready to start build a list! But I am thinking. If I concentrate my efforts to build a list for a year to build 5000 suscribers, will I have time to make money with something else in the same time?
    Here's how I would make money AS I build my list, if I wanted to
    (and yes, I use some of the methods listed here, though not all):

    1. Make an offer to give a free gift (or many) when subscribers
    sign up to your list... and build up anticipation, so they look
    forward to it, and will read/watch/listen to it soon.

    2. On the page they are redirected to after filling in the form,
    do what @b.super13 said in post #17 above

    3. I use double-optin, so on the re-confirmation page (which is
    where subscribers go when they click 'CONFIRM'), make another
    offer - along with a link to download the free gifts

    4. In message #1 that goes out to confirmed opt-ins, welcome your
    new subscriber - with an extra special 'one time only' deal

    5. In the free gift that you give (usually a valuable ebook as
    a PDF), include affiliate links for related products, another
    special deal, and a pitch for your primary product or service

    6. If you like the idea, sell banner/space ads on the 'thank you'
    page which new subscribers arrive at after opting in

    7. If you like the idea, negotiate list building JVs with others
    in your niche - and host THEIR opt-in form on your 'thank you'
    page in exchange for getting paid per lead they generate, OR
    as a reciprocal deal for placing YOUR form on their site

    8. Sell ad space (as classified ads or even solo ads) in the
    autoresponder sequence that will go out to your newly built
    list (you can do this BEFORE you build your list!)

    9. Ditto for ad space or text ads placed within the freebie
    you are offering as a gift in step #1.

    10. You could display Google Adsense (or other per-click payment
    links) on any of the pages along the process

    11. If you EXPLICITLY make it clear on the opt-in page, you
    can even sell or rent leads to advertisers - for a fee

    12. If you EXPLICITLY make it clear on the opt-in page, you
    can sell your entire list once it hits a certain size - and
    then start over again!

    I hope some of these ideas help you stretch your imagination
    beyond the standard 'one time offers' or 'thank you page ad'.

    All success
    Dr.Mani
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewStark
    Originally Posted by MagicAce View Post

    So I got the advice of the many and I'm ready to start build a list! But I am thinking. If I concentrate my efforts to build a list for a year to build 5000 suscribers, will I have time to make money with something else in the same time?
    If you were build a list of customers then you will get paid very well.

    Much more work, but it will give you an instant bang for your buck and provided you don't do a ****ty secret traffic loophole product on clickbank you should get repeat sales from these buyers when you start mailing out.
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  • Profile picture of the author LudVanDaal
    The great thing about list buiding is that you build list of potential customers and make money at the same time...
    Always try to monetize the thank you page.
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    • Profile picture of the author JPMaroney
      Similar thread here:

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...practices.html

      Between the two of these threads, you should get your answers. I'm soaking it up, and will be sharing back my results of tests this week.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trieu
    You can build a list, then use your autoresponder to send them followup messages up to 7 days. On your final day your message is used to upsell your product. So yes, you can build a list and sell at the same time.
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