Invasion of the Warrior Interns

14 years ago

Originally Posted by igrowyourbiz

I have a group of fiesty warrior interns. [snip] You will be seeing them all over the warrior forum.

That sounds like you let them loose with instructions that would identify them as your interns. Rethink that, really quickly. Or else you and they will find yourselves looking for some other place to haunt. Permanently.

If they identify themselves by, for example, promoting you or your programs in the wrong way, it will be you that gets the brunt of the hammer. You will be the most recent example.

If that's not the expected result, I fail to see why you'd need to phrase the "warning" the way you did.

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Caleb Spilchen 14 years ago

Orbital laser death-ray platform, engaged. Target acquired. Awaiting firing order.

Paul

Where do you get lines like that one Paul? Crazy stuff...

Anyway @OP. Paul's right, they aren't our interns, they are Fellow Warriors.

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- CDarklock 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen
  
  Where do you get lines like that one Paul? Crazy stuff...
  
  Movies and videogames are a common source. I've always preferred "Mother Goose, target is painted and green for Fox Three; ECM is active, and I'm going VFR for payload delivery."
  
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globalpro

14 years ago

Paul,

Thanks for laying down the law up front. The OP makes me think of the invasion of the Money Maverick(?) crew that was here some time back. What a mess.

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Paul Myers

14 years ago

John,

"Maverick Money Makers." Or the PIPS crowd, which led to the "No affiliate links" rule for sig files.

I could be reading his post wrongly, but I'm going based on what he said, and I'm not kidding. If I see what that post implies, I'll nuke him and anyone with anything related to his site anywhere in the post or sig file.

With extreme prejudice.

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Bill Farnham 14 years ago

I'm guessing mass genuflecting would be a mild overeaction at this juncture...

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igrowyourbiz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen

Anyway @OP. Paul's right, they aren't our interns, they are Fellow Warriors.

Caleb

and you do not wish to serve and be served by fellow warriors?

Originally Posted by globalpro

Paul,

Thanks for laying down the law up front. The OP makes me think of the invasion of the Money Maverick(?) crew that was here some time back. What a mess.

Thanks,

John

I do not remember money mav...must have been before my time or during busy times away. what did they do? (i happily learn from the mistakes of OTHERS)

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John,

"Maverick Money Makers." Or the PIPS crowd, which led to the "No affiliate links" rule for sig files.

I could be reading his post wrongly, but I'm going based on what he said, and I'm not kidding. If I see what that post implies, I'll nuke him and anyone with anything related to his site anywhere in the post or sig file.

With extreme prejudice.

Paul

I am not seeing how I implied anything about affiliate links

Did i miss a rule stating there can be no working together by warriors on the same thing?

majority of the signatures I see on this forum are people promoting the same "thing"

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Paul Myers 14 years ago

majority of the signatures I see on this forum are people promoting the same "thing"

Provide examples, now. Failure to do so will be viewed in an unflattering light.

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CDarklock

14 years ago

Originally Posted by igrowyourbiz

Did i miss a rule stating there can be no working together by warriors on the same thing?

Yes, actually, you did:

(6) Anyone Caught Promoting The Same Site/Offer Will Be Deleted. Program owners are telling their members to come here and make posts to promote their offer in their sig files. This has caused tons of useless messages to be posted and it is clogging up the forum. Anyone caught doing this will have to be removed. This is not an ad forum - it is a discussion forum.

It's concealed behind the clever and misleading title "Forum Rules - Please Read This Before Posting On The Forum"

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igrowyourbiz 14 years ago

Originally Posted by CDarklock

Yes, actually, you did:

It's concealed behind the clever and misleading title "Forum Rules - Please Read This Before Posting On The Forum"

no i am familiar with that, but thought that was related to affiliate programs.

how does this WSO and others like it get past that then?

http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-feedback.html

TWO warriors...same offer

they are not the only ones, but just happen to be towards the top of the WSO list

because that is EXACTLY what I am talking about doing...except more than 2

help me understand please
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- CDarklock 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by igrowyourbiz
  
  TWO warriors...same offer
  
  From the Warriors who OWN the offer.
  
  Not Warriors who bought or joined or happen to like the offer.
  
  There's a very large difference.
  
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  Originally Posted by CDarklock
  
  From the Warriors who OWN the offer.
  
  Not Warriors who bought or joined or happen to like the offer.
  
  There's a very large difference.
  
  paul, may I address this please??????
  
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Paul Myers 14 years ago

Caliban pointed out one of the 3 separate major ways this plan of yours would violate the rules. Not to mention the way it would open the whole forum up to every scammer who ever wanted to screw the members, and leave us no way to get rid of them.

This would be understandable from someone new, but you've been here for 6 years. No excuse. Drop it, now, and instruct your "interns" that it's over.

Do not even think of posting multiple WSOs under one account in this way.

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igrowyourbiz

14 years ago

help me understand what I am missing here

the warning was "tongue-in-cheek"..surely that is not lost on the reader (i hope)

If a group of warriors decide to work together...how is that a problem?

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Paul Myers

14 years ago

Originally Posted by igrowyourbiz

help me understand what I am missing here

the warning was "tongue-in-cheek"..surely that is not lost on the reader (i hope)

If a group of warriors decide to work together...how is that a problem?

The OP suggests something that would identify them as your "interns." That usually means they're promoting your stuff in inappropriate ways. And, as you say, "aggressively" so.

Read the warning I posted. You've been around long enough to know exactly what it means. Try and play word games with me and I'll embarrass you before you go away for good. This is not the section for advertising, including ads-by-proxy.

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Paul Myers 14 years ago

Re: Post #9.

Don't even try it. If you persist in that direction, you'll get a month off on that basis alone. This is not something over which I'm prepared to play games.

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Alfred Shelver

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

including ads-by-proxy.

You should reverse the Affiliate link rule -But Only for you though Imagine almost every one of us would have a link to your free ebook

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Paul Myers

14 years ago

Cathy,

Not only am I careful about how I use my sig, I have explicit instructions in my affiliate program rules about NOT using that link in this forum. It's grounds for removal from the program.

I take this stuff seriously.

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igrowyourbiz 14 years ago

i realize you do, i have edited my signature...

please read my PMs

I have asked you some sincere questions.

it is better to ask permission is better than forgiveness

why would i want to push it till i am gone when i can just find out ahead of time?
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Alfred Shelver

14 years ago

I know ....the day I joined your affiliate program I read every detail(did not want to be kicked off ever) ... A pity though talk about something that could go very viral.

Thats what I like about the forum even Allen who really do not have to keeps the rules.

I can see this is a touchy subject though and I really understand why.

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Cathy,

Not only am I careful about how I use my sig, I have explicit instructions in my affiliate program rules about NOT using that link in this forum. It's grounds for removal from the program.

I take this stuff seriously.

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igrowyourbiz

14 years ago

PAUL, PLEASE BE PATIENT WITH ME....READ your PM...

I honestly am not plotting anything insidious here.

maybe my OP was a little aggressive, i been up all night...please see my PM

if necessary remove this post.

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Paul Myers 14 years ago

Originally Posted by igrowyourbiz

PAUL, PLEASE BE PATIENT WITH ME.

Nope. The onus is on you to not test my patience. If you don't, you're good. If you do, you're gone. Endit.

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Alexa Smith Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by igrowyourbiz

maybe my OP was a little aggressive

That's putting it mildly. I don't mind saying "to your face" that I, for one, reported it immediately I saw it because it looked to me promotional and self-aggrandising in tone, I sensed future trouble from what it referred to, and I resented it: this forum is not here for your interns to sing your praises, nor for others to help you "train" them (and that was exactly how your OP came across), and by the way it's not here for "aggressive" people either.

(At least, not any more aggressive than me. ).

And for the reasons mentioned above by Caliban and of course by Paul himself.

And I bet I'm not the only person who reported it, either.

Anyway, I think you made a really heavy-duty misjudgment, posting what you did. I'm "just saying".
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Barry Unruh

14 years ago

I'm curious...

Tell me more about what you are up to.

It sounds to me like you are creating a group of anxious students who you are going to help guide, teach, and work together on projects.

Not quite sure how everyone else read it differently.

Barry

P.S. I respect the heck out of the majority of the posters in this thread, but I sure don't read his post the way you guys did.

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igrowyourbiz

14 years ago

wow...

gotcha

"I" am not allowed.

Paul you clearly are upset. Hopefully you will see I was actually attempting a good thing here. And I do wish you would read my PMs

I'm done...have a good one

sorry barry, maybe some other time I can discuss such things..but its clear Paul doesnt even want me to even TALK about it.

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CDarklock 14 years ago

Originally Posted by igrowyourbiz

wow...

gotcha

"I" am not allowed.

That is not it at all.

THEY are not allowed.

Your program does not belong to them. They do not have any right to promote it here. Whatever technique you may have devised that will skirt the written rules and policies, it is still not allowed.
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- Paul Myers 14 years ago
  
  Do you not recognize the difference between equal partners and interns?
  
  Don't play word games with me. You will lose, badly.
  
  That also does not explain the warning above. The whole thing stinks of spam, and I never liked that when I was a kid and it was a canned meat product, much less a form of electronic sewage.
  
  When every "intern" involved in an offer has established sufficient status to work as an equal partner in a deal like that (which is not an easily allowed thing), you might think about this plan working. But, by that time, they won't need the help.
  
  I really like the way you try to make this an issue of me being "upset." As though that's the cause, rather than the putative effect. Did you really think that kind of sloppy manipulation would work in this crowd?
  
  Do not confuse emphasis with emotion.
  
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  Just as an aside, these are your interns, recruited via DP. Where do you get off calling them Warrior Interns?
  
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  Just as an aside, these are your interns, recruited via DP. Where do you get off calling them Warrior Interns?
  
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cashcow

14 years ago

From the OP here, it sounds like you have a bunch of interns (the word interns applies they work for you in some fashion, does it not?) and you are going to "turn them loose" in here and you are asking us to "Please Be nice to them. Please Help them. Please reach out and assist them. Please support them."

I think just the fact that you feel the need to announce this is what makes it seem like you might be "up to something" because that's what we do here. We, help and assist people who want to make money online. The fact that they are your interns is neither here nor there so I think that is what is causing confusion.

I mean, why do we even need to know they are your interns?

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Bill Farnham

14 years ago

Originally Posted by cashcow

I mean, why do we even need to know they are your interns?

To get others to flock to the fold would be a good guess. Subliminal advertising, in other words.

Another guess, it's a little too blatent for this crowd.

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igrowyourbiz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Bill Farnham

To get others to flock to the fold would be a good guess. Subliminal advertising, in other words.

Another guess, it's a little too blatent for this crowd.

~Bill

the intern program is CLOSED and has been closed, despite others trying to get in.

See the post yourself:

http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ern-jv-me.html

I know what you THINK it is...it is not that at all.

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Bill Farnham 14 years ago

Originally Posted by igrowyourbiz

I know what you THINK it is...it is not that at all.

That's the way it came wrapped.
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CDarklock

14 years ago

I do want to kind of wave a hand here and say I really wish stuff like this was allowed. I do not revel in these rules and their implications, and I don't even entirely agree with them. But they are the rules, and they're being applied fairly and evenly - just like they should be.

And this pretty much sums it up for me:

Originally Posted by cashcow

I think just the fact that you feel the need to announce this is what makes it seem like you might be "up to something" because that's what we do here. ... The fact that they are your interns is neither here nor there

It seems very much like what you're doing is not so much trying to help your interns, but trying to get credit for having them. And while a quick "please be kind to my interns" isn't such a bad thing, what have you taught them?

Because if we need to be especially tolerant of your interns, chances are it's either not enough, or it's wrong.

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igrowyourbiz

14 years ago

actually with the exception of 2

all are already current warriors, and recruited from HERE

#2 each has a specific skill set

all of them (except 2) sell currently on the forum products or services

#3 if 1 person writes copy, another designs the graphics, another is IN the video...how is that not OWNERSHIP?????

If the writers from a popular blog come on here, could they all not be members?

again, I pointed to a WSO, and there are many, that MULTIPLE people work on...because these are people who are LEARNING about internet marketing (and admitting it instead of faking it) how is that wrong?

I think the assumption is that somehow, an intern is inexperienced...in fact one of the interns is a TOP copywriter! but looking for HELP.

I can see why this is foreign to some, and paul, I am not trying to twist anything. I modified my signature, i apologized publicly and privately and I even have tried to get my questions answered directly privately.

Clearly there is a misunderstanding, I am trying to clear it up, but getting shut down before I can even speak...and as you said I HAVE BEEN HERE 6 years...can i get a benefit of the doubt then please??????

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cypherslock

14 years ago

If they are your interns, it is YOUR responsibility to teach them. This is the Warrior "Forum" not the Warrior "Dojo" I smell a ban hammer comin' down at some point.

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igrowyourbiz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by cypherslock

If they are your interns, it is YOUR responsibility to teach them. This is the Warrior "Forum" not the Warrior "Dojo" I smell a ban hammer comin' down at some point.

you are joking right?

they were WARRIORS before they were interns.

if this is NOT The place to learn and share...where is the place?

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Michael Mayo

14 years ago

Originally Posted by cypherslock

If they are your interns, it is YOUR responsibility to teach them. This is the Warrior "Forum" not the Warrior "Dojo" I smell a ban hammer comin' down at some point.

Hey, Watch the WarriorDojo comments!

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cypherslock 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Mayo

Hey, Watch the WarriorDojo comments!

Have a Great Day!
Michael

Many apologies, kind sir, I didn't see your .com there. I meant no disrespect.
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  Just when I ran out of popcorn.
  
  Okay, I admit that I can be a naive son of a gun. I like to believe the best
  in people, but here is the impression I got when reading the OP.
  
  Why does this person have to announce that these people are coming to
  the Warrior Forum?
  
  I get emails all the time from people looking for help. The first thing I tell
  them is to come here and learn. It's a great place. But I don't come here
  and announce to the world that so and so is coming here. Please be nice
  to them. Yes, if it was my daughter, I'd ask to be kind because she's new
  and doesn't know a lot. But honestly, I think she needs to learn a lot more
  before coming to this place as it can be a bit rough at times and she's
  very sensitive.
  
  Not the point. I don't make a big deal about all the people I've sent here.
  It's irrelevant.
  
  So my first thought was, "Why the announcement? And what does he
  mean by interns?"
  
  Are these people who he trained like students? Even so, why make a big
  deal out of it? Just let them come and participate.
  
  Then I started thinking, naive as I am, "There has to be more to this."
  
  Now, not being of a devious nature, I couldn't possibly think what the OP
  was up to. But it just didn't sit right with me.
  
  I don't know what the OP sent to Paul via PM, but if Paul says it breaks
  at least 3 rules, that's damn good enough for me.
  
  And for anybody surprised that somebody here for 6 years would try
  something like this, don't be.
  
  Some of the, one time, greatest people in history have fallen right before
  our eyes in scandal.
  
  Nobody is above letting greed, ambition and the quest for power get to
  them.
  
  What separates those who have succumbed to it from those who lead lives
  of integrity is one of the mysteries of life that I don't think anybody is
  ever truly going to understand.
  
  It's why when we see news events on TV about some well respected
  person suddenly committing murder, we sit there with our jaw dropped
  to the floor and ask ourselves, "How?"
  
  If I had the answer to that, I'd run for supreme lord.
  
  Back on point thought.
  
  I don't know what the OP's intent was but it smelled bad and Paul's
  response is more than good enough to convince me that it probably was
  bad.
  
  And yes, let this thread stay as an example to anybody who tries to pull
  something like this in the future.
  
  Paul, thank you for watching out for all of us, because quite honestly...
  
  I didn't see this one coming.
  
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Paul Myers 14 years ago

Maurice,

There is no doubt, based on the info you've given me. This would be a bad break of at least 3 rules, and a disastrous precedent to allow.

I repeat: Drop it. Now.

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igrowyourbiz

14 years ago

ok, if i can no longer rebut the accusations, would you at least close the thread for me please?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by igrowyourbiz

ok, if i can no longer rebut the accusations, would you at least close the thread for me please?

No.

This will serve as an example of something that cannot and will not be allowed here. Along with the reasons for those decisions. You would have been fine, had you taken "Stop" as enough. You refused to do that, after several recommendations to that end.

I'm going to get some sleep soon, and that will leave a lot of people room enough and rope enough to make the necessary decision: Ladder or noose?

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Paul Myers

14 years ago

Maurice,

Just as a note of info for others in the future... You announced the thing publicly, as a warning to the entire membership. That precludes the option of asking for a private hearing and explanation via PM.

If you can't explain it to the group, don't ask them to help with it.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Maurice,

There is no doubt, based on the info you've given me. This would be a bad break of at least 3 rules, and a disastrous precedent to allow.

I repeat: Drop it. Now.

Paul

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Maurice,

Just as a note of info for others in the future... You announced the thing publicly, as a warning to the entire membership. That precludes the option of asking for a private hearing and explanation via PM.

If you can't explain it to the group, don't ask them to help with it.

Paul

drop it...or explain...you do see how I am confused right?:confused:

i pmed because you said drop it, then i tried publicly because you would only speak (not respond) to me.

Now its the game of ladder or noose?

comeon. I am trying to be sincere here, and not really seeing the fairness here. I have/had sincere questions, but just getting shut down.

and now I am some kind of example..except...I don't know of WHAT since no one can tell me what is wrong (and no one knows what I am doing so how to say it is wrong is beyond me)

I am walking on eggshells, yet trying to be respectful here...and no matter what I say I am accused of somehow trying to do something underhanded or having wrong motive.:rolleyes:

public or private, i just wanted answers. Yes my OP was mysteriously vague...but that makes it all the more strange for such hard opinions made of what it is before I could explain...which was the point...to start a dialogue...not a an attack.

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Paul Myers

14 years ago

Maurice,

I asked you to explain. You didn't do so publicly. The first effort to avoid that was enough.

I've said why the PMs were unsatisfactory, along with stating that your plan would break at least 3 rules, 1 of which Caliban outlined clearly in this thread. The others are obvious if you read the forum rules.

Are you asking for a ban? If so, please state that here, in this thread. If not, please drop it before you're no longer allowed the option.

Paul

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Paul Myers

14 years ago

Steven,

Careful. I don't think his intent was bad at all. Not in any usual way of using the word. I think the result of allowing him to continue his plan would have been horrifically bad. And it breaks several important rules.

You should know as well as anyone here, sir, that intent and impact are not always related. It's easy to mean well and do badly.

I rarely concern myself with intent, preferring to assume the best in that matter. It's the effect that needs to be considered. That's a function of experience, not "The Rules."

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igrowyourbiz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Steven,

Careful. I don't think his intent was bad at all. Not in any usual way of using the word. I think the result of allowing him to continue his plan would have been horrifically bad. And it breaks several important rules.

You should know as well as anyone here, sir, that intent and impact are not always related. It's easy to mean well and do badly.

I rarely concern myself with intent, preferring to assume the best in that matter. It's the effect that needs to be considered. That's a function of experience, not "The Rules."

Paul

i can dig that

thank you

as I stated, i was NEVER intending to cause any negative impact..hence my requests immediately to delete or close the thread - and my alteration of my signature.

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Steven Wagenheim

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Steven,

Careful. I don't think his intent was bad at all. Not in any usual way of using the word. I think the result of allowing him to continue his plan would have been horrifically bad. And it breaks several important rules.

You should know as well as anyone here, sir, that intent and impact are not always related. It's easy to mean well and do badly.

I rarely concern myself with intent, preferring to assume the best in that matter. It's the effect that needs to be considered. That's a function of experience, not "The Rules."

Paul

Well, as I said, it just didn't sit well with me, the whole mystery thing.

As he PM'd you his actual intent, only you know what the whole story is
and that's good enough for me.

Not even sure why I allowed myself to get sucked into this drama as I
have so much work to do.

Think I'll go and do it now.

See you guys later after the storm is over.

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Steven Wagenheim

14 years ago

Originally Posted by igrowyourbiz

public or private, i just wanted answers. Yes my OP was mysteriously vague...but that makes it all the more strange for such hard opinions made of what it is before I could explain...which was the point...to start a dialogue...not a an attack.

Maybe if your OP wasn't vague you wouldn't have had all these problems.

For example, if you had said...

"There are a number of people who I have personally trained in my
mentoring program who will be coming here to mingle with the group,
ask some questions and share some of what they've learned. They're eager
to succeed as marketers. I'd appreciate it if you welcomed them here and
helped them with anything they needed."

I don't think you would have had any problems at all, but I can't speak
for the rest of the group.

As I said in my post above, if Paul saw 3 things wrong with your idea,
that's good enough for me.

But yes, had you not been vague, all these problems could have been
avoided. If nothing else, somebody could have simply come out and said,

"Sorry, your proposal is not allowed here."

Anyway, that's my 2 cents on the subject.

Now I have to go out and buy some more popcorn because I have a
feeling this one is going to be the thread of the day.

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Steven Wagenheim 14 years ago

To the OP...PM me again and I will report you to the help desk.

You've been warned.
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- igrowyourbiz 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim
  
  To the OP...PM me again and I will report you to the help desk.
  
  You've been warned.
  
  don't exxagerate
  
  i made ONE pm..asking about your ACCUSATIONS in the public post..that was it, don't worry we are now on each others ignore list
  
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  Originally Posted by igrowyourbiz
  
  don't exxagerate
  
  i made ONE pm..asking about your ACCUSATIONS in the public post..that was it, don't worry we are now on each others ignore list
  
  Where did I accuse you of anything?
  
  Did you even read my post?
  
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  Steven,
  
  Unless he was abusive in a PM, don't bring it up. If he was, report it.
  
  Caleb,
  
  Please let the moderators do the moderating.
  
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  Steven Just when I could have been your 5000th thanks no more thanks.....
  
  I have been very thankful today
  
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Caleb Spilchen

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Maybe if your OP wasn't vague you wouldn't have had all these problems.

For example, if you had said...

"There are a number of people who I have personally trained in my
mentoring program who will be coming here to mingle with the group,
ask some questions and share some of what they've learned. They're eager
to succeed as marketers. I'd appreciate it if you welcomed them here and
helped them with anything they needed."

I don't think you would have had any problems at all, but I can't speak
for the rest of the group.

As I said in my post above, if Paul saw 3 things wrong with your idea,
that's good enough for me.

But yes, had you not been vague, all these problems could have been
avoided. If nothing else, somebody could have simply come out and said,

"Sorry, your proposal is not allowed here."

Anyway, that's my 2 cents on the subject.

Now I have to go out and buy some more popcorn because I have a
feeling this one is going to be the thread of the day.

Steven,

This is going to be the thread of the day..Like when jstraw got banned

I agree with Steven, on what Myers says being right, always. I don't think you'll care of my suggestion, but I would suggest listening to Paul. He's one of the most respected warriors here, as well as Steven.

You don't want to mess things up with that pack.

To the OP...PM me again and I will report you to the help desk.

You've been warned.

Boom. While I'm posting to tell you not to miss things up with the top members.. you do

Caleb

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cashcow

14 years ago

actually with the exception of 2

all are already current warriors, and recruited from HERE

#2 each has a specific skill set

all of them (except 2) sell currently on the forum products or services

Umm.... this just makes your OP seem even more suspicious. If they are already warriors here with products, why the need to make a big announcement?

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mattlaclear

14 years ago

Can we hold off on the self imposed public lynching until I get back from Speedway with some coffee?

And OP...you came off sounding cultish and menacing with your post. What if I were to email my list of of Warriors that I have built up with instructions on how to systematically post here at WF to promote my agenda? What if Paul Myers did the same? And Wags? This forum would instantly take a nasty nose dive into oblivion very quickly.

The people who opt in to your list are called subscribers not interns. So now you know feigning power is not the way to promote yourself here at the forum.

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Michael Oksa

14 years ago

I mean this in the best possible way, and don't meant to step on anybody's toes, one way or the other.

I just read the whole thread, and based on my previous experience here, I think the best thing for the OP to do right now is...

Nothing.

The first post was fishy, there was nearly a ban (from what I could tell), it almost got heated, and now it seems to have come full-circle (or at least an elliptical shape of some kind).

To the OP: I think you have now recovered your reputation as best as you can at this point. I can't force you to not post, but this seems like the best time to not dig a deeper hole.

All the best,
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JohnMcCabe

14 years ago

Maurice, I don't know the scope of what you had in mind, nor do I know your intent. All I can say is that the last line of your original post almost sounded like a warning.

Vague warnings tend to raise hackles and put people on guard, rather than open them up to your ideas.

Over the time I've been here, I've learned to trust Paul's judgment on the possible consequences of proposed actions.

Like Paul, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt on your intentions. Sometimes, though, the unintended consequences of acts committed with benign intent are worse than the aftermath of a deliberate attack.

Paraphrasing Steven, if Paul believes that what you propose would violate three of the basic forum rules and open the door to undesirable consequences, that's good enough for me.

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Bill Farnham 14 years ago

Here's a thought, Maurice...take a screenshot of your OP and put it away for a few days and then look at it. If it doesn't make you go "Doh!" you may want to read "How to Win Friends and Influence People" one more time.

We all let our egos write checks with our mouths our asses can't cash every now and then, it's human nature. The trick is to learn to recognize those instances and try to keep them to a minimum.

Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen

This is going to be the thread of the day..Like when jstraw got banned

Not even close...

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Paul Myers 14 years ago

Okay. We've figured out that Maurice didn't mean anything evil. We've also got the idea that he (hopefully) will change the directions he gives to his interns.

With that, the discussion is over.

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