Membership/Product Delivery Solution That Does This?

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I have some very specific ideas in mind, when it comes to the way I want my products delivered and so far, I've been unable to find a fitting solution. Hopefully, I can get some pointers here.

For the record: I own DAP and amember (have only just started using amember, though).

Here's what I'm looking for.

  • Global affiliate program
    This is really important to me. I want a setup where anyone who sends me a lead will be credited for any and all purchases that lead makes with me. I know infusionsoft does this and it's also possible with aMember.
    Note that I need this done with the products being on different, separate websites.
  • Seamless Aweber Integration
    I don't want a setup where customers need to sign up more than once. For example, when someone signs up for one of my free products, I want to give them access to all of my free stuff, without it being much of a hassle for them.
    They sign up with e-mail, name and desired password and are automatically added to Aweber as well as the membership area where they can get all the free stuff. So, all they need to do is confirm the aweber mail and that's it.
Is the above possible with amember? Because it seems like you'd need a bunch of extra plugins and a ton of customization to make that happen...

  • Seamless Payment Integration
    Ideally, I'd like customers to be added to Aweber in single-opt-in when they make a purchase, so that they can access the product immediately after purchase and don't need to go back to the inbox to find a confirmation mail.
    Obviously, it would be indicated that they get added to the list during the sign-up process and can unsub at any time etc.
Before I start investing more time and money into setting up amember, I wanted to ask if any or all of the above is possible or whether there is a better solution for all this.

Thanks!

Shane
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  • Profile picture of the author Dean Jackson
    Shane, I think DAP will do all this for you.

    I am going to be getting it next week and Ravi the developer is a great guy to work with.

    It has all those options for sharing instant profits with your affiliates - I got Wishlist before I knew about DAP but DAP has a built in affiliate system.

    You can also offer upsells, downsells, crossells and OTO's.

    Aweber integration should be cake too.

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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    Thanks, Dean.

    From what I've seen, DAP can do a lot of this, but not all. For example, I don't see a way for it to have the global affilaite creditation across different websites.

    The biggest issue I have with DAP is that there are virtually no affiliate stats. For example, I have no clue what kind of conversions my affiliates are getting, because there's no click or conversion count. All I see is the final commission amount for each affiliate as well as a big-ass list of all clicks generated by all affiliates (not sortable).

    It is a very good system, don't get me wrong. But I don't think it can be used for all of the above.

    Unfortunately, it seems like amember needs to get a major overhaul in the form of customization and plugins before it really works like I'd want it to, as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dean Jackson
    In that case, you may want to check out Wishlist.

    I'm not 100% sure about it, but I recall a plugin being created that would bridge Rapid Action Profits (affiliate script) to it...

    You can also integrate with AWeber and and get an additional plugin called WP-Drip for your content dripping needs.

    You could always contact Ravi and see if he might have a solution that were not aware of yet,

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    • Profile picture of the author marcpsummers
      I'd stick with Infusionsoft - Very powerful integrated system - can also be linked with wordpress with WisP - The Infusionsoft Wordpress plugin - then you can deliver products electronically to members or anyone who has paid for them.
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      • Profile picture of the author SiteSmarty
        Shane: aMember is a bear to work with. It's a good script, but there's a huge learning curve. It's not really worth the trouble for one membership website.

        You're right about needing the plugins. For aWeber integration you can set up a parser. aWeber has instructions on how to do it or they offer the service for a fee.

        When membership scripts mention integration, they're referring to the parser set up. Wishlist, aMember and others all do this aWeber integration the same. When the parser is set up, the software talks to each other and only one login is required.

        ShareASale is a service you could check on for your affiliates. iDevAffilates integrates with aMember, but again it's not worth fooling with IMO.
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  • Profile picture of the author BrianMcLeod
    Shane,

    You might want to investigate fellow warrior Josh Anderson's Nanacast.com which meets all of your criteria.

    I currently use a white label version of the platform (Mixiv.com) for the free membership in my sig and several other businesses/projects that I'm a part of.

    Like anything, there's a learning curve involved in figuring out where everything is and becoming confident in how everything works, but once you're over that hump and understand how everything ties together it's extraordinarily powerful.

    With respect to auto-subscribing members to an Aweber list it actually has a pretty slick way of not only adding new subscribers to any list you choose in Aweber, but also moving unsubscribes to a different list or just removing them from the current one.

    Of course Rapid Action Profits is also capable of handling your requests as well with the appropriate Add-Ons (Member Plus and/or Rapid Action Press).

    Hope this helps,

    Brian
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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    Shane in a couple days Kajabi is going to be publicly launched, you should check it out and some of the beta reviews of it.

    It's the same membership / sales system used for programs like PLF, List Control, and Video Boss =)

    ~Dexx
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    • Profile picture of the author eflo
      Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

      Shane in a couple days Kajabi is going to be publicly launched, you should check it out and some of the beta reviews of it.

      It's the same membership / sales system used for programs like PLF, List Control, and Video Boss =)

      ~Dexx
      I totally agree with Dexx on this one. I've seen it in too many other first class launches, that I believe that my first WSO's may very well be launched on the Kajabi platform. Also for the offline marketers I think it will be a HUGE hit for their clients to deliver digital products. I can't wait!
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Howard
    Another vote for Nanacast. It will do everything you need.

    Rob
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
    If Aweber is pivotal, Nanacast is your only option. It's a rock solid system.
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  • Profile picture of the author Terri LC
    I like Social Sam for its ease of use...........and only 8 bucks a month for your 1st 100 members - I think it has everything you outlined in your "must have" list, but now I'm curious about Kajabi.
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    Thanks for the many suggestions!
    I'll take a look at Kajabi and reconsider Nanacast, as well.

    Infusionsoft is another option I'd been thinking of, but from what I heard there's probably also quite a learning curve to it?

    Just to clarify: This is not for just one product or one membership. I want to use one solid system for all my products, funnels and memberships (existing and upcoming). So I don't mind making a bit of an investment.


    EDIT:
    Looks like Kajabi is already out. From their twitter:
    "This first release of Kajabi will not include built in email marketing and affiliate management."

    I can hardly believe that. I thought all those big launches were running Kajabi and they don't even have an affiliate module?
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    • Profile picture of the author Rob Howard
      Originally Posted by ShaneRQR View Post

      EDIT:
      Looks like Kajabi is already out. From their twitter:
      "This first release of Kajabi will not include built in email marketing and affiliate management."

      I can hardly believe that. I thought all those big launches were running Kajabi and they don't even have an affiliate module?
      Seriously? That is quite surprising.

      Well anyway, score 1 for nanacast.

      It's pretty powerful, if you need the power of infusionsoft, but don't want the headaches, nanacast + OfficeAutoPilot will do the trick and it's ten times easier to work with.

      Rob
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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    I'm in the BETA area of Kajabi right now and they are using the affiliate management system for it...

    I'd say hold off until next Tuesday when they release the walkthrough of the system etc.

    It's not released yet, it gets launched to the public next Thursday with the 'sneak peek' video coming out tomorrow

    ~Dexx
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    Thanks, Dexx.

    Right now, I'm waiting for details on Kajabi and will then make a decision between aMember, Nanacast and Kajabi.

    Since Nanacast seems to integrate with WordPress nicely, I'm leaning towards it, at least slightly. But I do want to give Kajabi a fair chance.

    Hopefully, the video tomorrow will contain at least shreds of actual information and not just bucketloads of hype.
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    From the affiliates area, I now learned that Kajabi will have affiliate management (Kajabi Komrades), but not it's not right at launch. I.e. it will be implemented sometime later.

    I have been looking at aMember and Nanacast and after a great discussion with fellow warrior Jesus Perez, I've pretty much ruled out amember because it requires too much customization and too many third-party plugins.

    Still want to take a closer look at Kajabi, but I doubt it even comes close to Nanacast plus WordPress. Also took a look at officeautopilot, thanks to Rob's recommendation, but that looks really intimidating. ^^

    Anyway: Thanks again for the recommendations and I just wanted to clarify the Kajabi/affiliate situation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Moffatt
    I've used Amember, Nanacast & Kajabi.

    Frustration with Amember.

    Nanacast is freaking awesome! Wish I spent more time using it.

    Loving Kajabi at the moment. Can't wait until everything is 100% done though.
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  • Profile picture of the author jazbo
    I am using the plugins for wordpress from Tips and Tricks to achieve all that an a lot more on my main site.
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    • Profile picture of the author zach98
      To Jazbo,
      I bought a software that installs a wordpress in my server. It never did run as it claims. After long hours of waiting for the installation all I saw is a /wp_content folder.

      Any comment on that?

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  • Profile picture of the author Darren L Carter
    Hey Shane - Thanks for this post.

    I think I am in a similar position as you (in terms of what we are searching for).

    Nanacast looks good.
    I'm keeping my eye on Kajabi.

    Have you seen PremiumWebCart?
    Right now I'm leaning towards this solution a little more than Nanacast (still doing research though)
    If you've already seen this and discounted it, what were your reasons?


    Peace,
    Darren L Carter
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    • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
      Originally Posted by Darren L Carter View Post

      Hey Shane - Thanks for this post.

      I think I am in a similar position as you (in terms of what we are searching for).

      Nanacast looks good.
      I'm keeping my eye on Kajabi.

      Have you seen PremiumWebCart?
      Right now I'm leaning towards this solution a little more than Nanacast (still doing research though)
      If you've already seen this and discounted it, what were your reasons?


      Peace,
      Darren L Carter

      Nope, Premium Web Cart is news to me.
      I sent them a question about their affiliate system and some integration features. Might be a good option and I guess one more thing I need to look into.

      I'll be reporting back on what I finally settle on and why.
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  • Profile picture of the author Darren L Carter
    Awesome, I'll be watching this thread to see what option you choose.

    I'll let you know when I settle on something too.

    Peace,
    Darren L Carter
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    Hi,

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  • Profile picture of the author Darren L Carter
    Hey, just found another option that I will add to my list of choices.

    Adobe BusinessCatalyst

    Although I'm not sure if you can make tiered memberships or if you can drip-feed content etc.

    Thoughts on this? Or have you already decided against it?

    Peace,
    Darren L Carter
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    Hey, just wanted to mention:

    After lots of consideration, I've settled on Nanacast, integrated with WordPress.

    I can do pretty much everything I want to do with that, in terms of affiliate management etc.

    Also: I was informed that with Digital Access Pass, you actually can have a global affiliate program across several products, as long as the WP sites for those products are all in sub-folders on the same domain.
    My estimation is that in another year or so, DAP may be the ultimate solution out there or at least the best in terms of price/performance. They've been updating it regularly and adding awesome features and what I've seen of the roadmap looks sweet.
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    Also: Let's just say I may or may not have written a huge blog post about all this.

    Can't be more specific than that and probably even just this hint is enough to get this post or maybe the entire thread deleted. If that happens: Sorry for those who were waiting for my reply.
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    • Profile picture of the author netkid
      Shane,

      I think you probably need a total custom solution for what you want out of a membership site. If I thought that far as you are thinking, it is time to get a coder/programmer and build it from the ground up

      Only thing that comes close in my mind of what you need is membergate.....but you know how expensive it is! But they now have "split" payments arrangement now for the people who can't fork over the total price at the start.
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    @netkid:
    Yeah, my own "custom Kajabi/Nanacast" would be nice. Actually, make that Kajabi/Nanacast/Infusionsoft.

    Unfortunately, I estimate that I'm a few million short of having something like that built for me, from scratch.
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    • Profile picture of the author netkid
      I gotta give you a big "A" for trying!
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  • Profile picture of the author AndreVas
    Delavo has one of best, comprehensive affiliate programs. And it's specifically built best for Aweber integration.

    Although any autoresponder will also work.
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