Youtube Theft - Whats the Deal/Laws Around Stealing Other Peoples Youtube Videos?

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I have seen this a fair few times now, people stealing other peoples Youtube videos and posting them on their own channel.

Take this for example:

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
This video is stolen from this channel:

http://www.youtube.com/upandoverit

Obviously he didnt make the video because of the water tags, but he still have 10,000+ views on the video (the original has 2m+) with a link down the bottom to his site (obviously an IM).

What's the deal here? Is he allowed to do this?

Seems like an easy way to get a decent amount of Youtube traffic for viral stuff.
#main internet marketing discussion forum #deal or laws #peoples #stealing #theft #videos #youtube
  • Well, regardless of whether or not it's legal, it's against the TOS of YouTube, and also it's just one of the many short-term & short-sighted shortcuts that some IM'ers do in order to make a quick sale.

    Even if the video isn't removed as a result of a complaint from the original author, it just means the IM'er has to hide his/her true identity to avoid being considered a loser or "seedy" by proper businesses...

    So, IMO, it's not something worth doing.

    Dez.
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  • Isn't it copyright infringements?
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    • Yes. That would be copyright infringement.
  • I don't know if there is such things as stealing videos.. depends right? if you're marketing your product and somebody grab that video, then maybe you can click abuse button and youtube can block the user.
  • You run the risk of getting flagged so it's never a good idea.

    But technically you can do this if the author undervalues the content enough that they don't report the video being copied.
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    • Wow!

      Technically, you can murder someone if their friends and family don't value their life enough to report it, right?
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  • Terms of Service (5)(b) states:

    Content is provided to you AS IS. You may access Content for your information and personal use solely as intended through the provided functionality of the Service and as permitted under these Terms of Service. You shall not download any Content unless you see a “download” or similar link displayed by YouTube on the Service for that Content. You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute, transmit, broadcast, display, sell, license, or otherwise exploit any Content for any other purposes without the prior written consent of YouTube or the respective licensors of the Content. YouTube and its licensors reserve all rights not expressly granted in and to the Service and the Content.
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  • If it has obvious copyright info youtube will inform you and not allow that video in partner program. If owner complains about it they will remove video from you.
    Youtube usually suspends your account temporarily before they actually ban you.
  • I believe that if you post a video on youtube, you agree that anyone can embed it on their websites. Kind of like syndication of articles on article directories. However, videos posted on youtube must be original work and you need to be the copyright owner. In this case, it clearly is not so.
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    • That's nearly right.

      If you upload a video on YouTube you have the option to enable or disable the embed code - the default setting is having it enabled, very few people disable it.

      That means that anyone can come along and grab the embed code and paste the video on their sites or blogs. But although the video appears on their site - it will reference back to your original video and nothing will have been changed on your original video. (In fact, every embedded video gives you the chance to click through and watch on yoUTube - anyone who does that goes straight to your channel).

      What has happened here though is someone has downloaded or screen captured a video from somebody else's YouTube channel and then loaded it to their own channel. And as you correctly state, they are clearly not the owners of it and have violated the original copyright.
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  • Other marketers may in fact do this to get traffic if they are desperate. They will hide their identity and then promote their own product as an affiliate to further conceal their true identity.

    Pretty lame if you ask me...
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    • If you upload the video to YouTube it is fair game because anything you upload can be used for derivative works.
  • it's okay if you're not profitiing by the video. This is the Copyright law:

    Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use.

    So as long as you're not making money from it, it's fine.
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    • I don't think this is the whole story. Fair use is usually limited to taking a small section of a copyrighted work, say a few sentences from a book or report, for review or comment, etc., not the whole shebang.
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  • When I do a video in the description I start with http: my website - yada yada. Also, you can able and dis able using the features in yahoo and even make your video private.

    So - yea, I would say copywrite could play a part as would youtubes terms of service. BUT - I would say - If I borrow your video and do not change it - it may be a legal question.

    For example: You write a dog training video and your link is there on the tail end of the video. If I put that video on my page which sells dog products and do not change your video - did I violate any laws?

    NOW: If the AG in any state (etc) says I am confusing the customer....AHHH The headaches!

    I don't know if any of this was that case here however.
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    • You guys obviously didn't read the whole thread and skimmed over it which most of use hate. The reason I can tell is if you had read post #8 from Mark you will see that you CANNOT take someone else's video and then upload it on your on account.
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  • I should add that there are ways to make your YouTube videos less attractive to thiefs.
    Put your brand throughout the video, even comments, links to your site, etc.
    But "less attractive" doesn't mean your video is padlocked.
  • MAN! If I created youtube, I would have a checksum of some pages AND, if a video were uploaded with a checksum matching another's account, I would compare the video. If large sections matched, I would flag it to be looked at by a person. If they found original stuff substantially copied, like here, the second video would be DELETED!

    Steve
  • Oh well Im not allowed to Post Links so Look up youtube user runwiththewild to get a Link to sign a petition to STOP YOUTUBE THEFT
    CharlieO The Praying Parrot Google it
    Kathleen Chute
  • can you embed someone elses video to make money
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  • Glad you guys are reviving old topics just to get your post count up. FYI, there are plenty of new topics to comment on...before you start your spamming...
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    • I guess this gets revived every two years or so. :confused:
  • I never actually new the answer to this...always "presumed" it didn't matter a great deal since the original poster uploaded it and wouldn't care if somebody else shared it around...

    Learn something new everyday.
  • I just watched several sports clips videos where the person who uploaded the video may have "created" the video, but he used other peoples footage, such as the NCAA and foreign television. They have ads before all of these videos.

    Yes the poster technically created his own video, so that probably satisfies YouTube's T.O.S., but how can he get paid on material that is probably a copyright infringement? (or if is public domain if he has been reposted ad naseum)
  • I'd say its the responsibility of the video owner.
    And even any person just cruising youtube.
    You should flag such videos.
    Otherwise, YT does have a system in place where
    it can detect duplicate videos by noticing the
    first 10 seconds of the clip. But most people just
    cut out the first 10 seconds and post it anyways.

    So, yeah. If you see one of these, just report it
    and move on.
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