Would you pay $50/page for a report?

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Hi Warriors,

I have run my own content production company for a while now but would like to become a specialist writer of reports and ebooks for clients. I have had a few clients (all of whom have been very pleased with the results) but they have only paid $30/page. The point is, if I want to move into this field full time (I write my own ebooks and run other services), I will need to charge a fee of $50/page.

This will mostly be for clients who need a valuable report for their squeeze page but it could be for the odd client who wants a solid ebook to sell on clickbank or ejunkie.

So, for market research purposes, could you please answer the question:

Would you pay $50/page for a report or ebook, or do you think that this is a little too steep? Keep in mind that I am a professional writer and work closely with my clients so there´s no fluff or silliness, just good old fashioned hard work.

All thoughts welcome in this regard.

Thanks,
Antony.
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  • Profile picture of the author VanessaB
    I would if all the market research was already done and I was convinced I would see a 100% ROI on the expenditure.

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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    way too much.

    My reports are usually 40-60 pages so you'd be charging me $2500 for something I'm giving away.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bill_Z
    It does seem like quite a bit to be honest. I mean, I can find someone to do it cheaper and with proper research to prepare for me a 10-20 page report for a give-away. $500-$1000 for such a report is quite steep.
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    • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
      That is way to high. I would also find someone to do it for much less.
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    • Profile picture of the author Darunner14
      Originally Posted by Bill_Z View Post

      It does seem like quite a bit to be honest. I mean, I can find someone to do it cheaper and with proper research to prepare for me a 10-20 page report for a give-away. $500-$1000 for such a report is quite steep.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stephen Bray
    I can't be sure but I suspect top
    marketers would readily pay $50
    per page for a report.

    BUT every report would have
    to be superb in every way.


    Rich Schefren's 'Internet
    Marketing Manifesto' easily
    measures up, even today.

    Many of Ken Evoy's SiteSell
    manuals also were worth this
    kind of money in their day.

    The real question is can you
    identify a speciality where you
    excel and make a name for
    yourself within it.

    For example, I have just
    stated a series of very
    short articles for a client
    for which I'm receiving more
    than you're asking.

    The client came to me
    because I have some specialist
    knowledge outside of writing.

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  • Profile picture of the author AHayes183
    Hi Warriors,

    Thanks for the great response. I was of the opinion that $50/page was too expensive unless it was for a 5-10 page report that contained some explosive information. However, you don´t know for sure unless you take a look into it.

    Personally, if I wanted a report written well that was more than 50 pages, I would write it myself unless I was completely confident in the writer´s ability, and as Dani said, if the ROI was near enough guaranteed. I can agree with all of you that a 50+ page report at $50/page would be too expensive.

    I will try to remain at my current $25/page rate and reorganise my team of researchers to make the job less time consuming. My service is what pays the bills and keeps me comfortable while I eventually build up a large enough repertoire of products to write for myself full time.

    On a side note, my main speciality is travel writing which my top clients pay around $40/page.

    Thanks once again for the insight.
    Antony.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      Originally Posted by AHayes183 View Post

      On a side note, my main speciality is travel writing which my top clients pay around $40/page.

      that's the thing - it's niche dependent.

      I've been paid $500 a page for technical reports.
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      • Profile picture of the author AHayes183
        Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

        that's the thing - it's niche dependent.

        I've been paid $500 a page for technical reports.
        This is also a very valid point. Its all well and good setting a flat rate but the value of the work will vary depending on the topic and purpose of the report.

        I have written some reports that have been a dream to write and still exceeded expectations, but then there are other reports that are a killer to write due to research.

        This is what had me thinking of the raise in the first place. I suppose that this is yet another area where experience tells the tale.

        Antony.
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  • Profile picture of the author lazy boy
    Getting opinions is great, but you will never truly know until you try. I don't think you will ruin your reputation by trying. You already know your top clients pay $40 per page in the travel niche. If you were able to increase the size of your market and or go after bigger clients it might work at $50 per page. Good Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author BeachBumDad
    If I can convince myself that $50 a page is worth it, I'd buy it. So maybe focus on getting in your client's head and ask, "how can I get them to put energy on convincing themselves that this is worth it"
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Hancox
    Hey Anthony

    Before you get discouraged, remember it's all in the marketing and target market.

    Would the Wall Street Journal publish a $3 spun article, written by someone in Malaysia that struggles with English?

    Of course not.

    Yet some Internet Marketers are happy to put that kind of article on their site.

    Totally difference target market.

    And with marketing, whatever you price you set, you have to SELL it's value.

    A $500 report might sound expensive to some Warriors... but, for example, if that report skillfully presold its readers in a subtle manner, such a report could be VERY valuable.

    You have to show your target audience WHY it would be worth them paying $50/page, and WHY they should hire you instead of someone at $10 or $20/page.

    Writing is NOT a commodity, but a lot of people think it is. Look at all the $1 article writers on Elance.

    You won't see them writing for the Wall Street Journal any time soon.

    And it's not just about spelling and grammar. Those are just the technical aspects of writing.

    It's about what your writing communicates (both directly, and under the surface). It's about demonstrating your knowledge and expertise to your clients. It's about preselling, so they read the report and think, "Wow... I need to find out more."

    Make it clear to your prospects why your writing is NOT a commodity, and they won't treat it as a commodity.
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  • Profile picture of the author AHayes183
    This is very true. Nothing is ever clearcut and so I will have to have a good think about it and try different things. I suppose its also a question of whether I want to try and make it work at $25 with many clients or work with fewer clients at $40-50.

    Paul, your post was spot on, thanks for that.

    Antony.
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    • Profile picture of the author BeachBumDad
      At the beginning of 2010 I had a conversation with my good buddy about raising my rates. I was concerned that they would take it bad or not want to pay as much or whatever. He said, "John do you believe you are worth it?" I did. So I emailed them and let them know. I was about doubling my hourly rate. All but one had no problem agreeing to it. The 1 negotiated a slightly lower rate than the rest.

      So the lesson is I guess, if you believe you are worth it your clients will believe that, and if they don't they'll either negotiate with you or leave.

      John
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        500 words per page avg, $50 per page, average cost 10 cents per word...

        When I used to write articles, I got paid 7.5 to 10 cents per word, depending on volume...

        I was able to sell my ghost writing reliably...

        Now I am a burned out ghost writer... LOL And I don't do ghost writing anymore...

        If you are going to sell in the WF, you are probably too expensive...

        But if you sell outside the WF, you can realistically get those kinds of rates for your work, depending on how you position yourself...

        It is up to you to convince buyers that YOUR WRITING is worth that kind of money...

        You set the prices, and you convince buyers that your work is worth the money, and you will be on your way to earning those kinds of rates...

        But it all comes down to your branding and sales message...
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by AHayes183 View Post

          This is also a very valid point. Its all well and good setting a flat rate but the value of the work will vary depending on the topic and purpose of the report.

          I have written some reports that have been a dream to write and still exceeded expectations, but then there are other reports that are a killer to write due to research.

          This is what had me thinking of the raise in the first place. I suppose that this is yet another area where experience tells the tale.

          Antony.
          Something else to chew on...

          Why do you have to have just one flat rate for everything? If some forms of writing are dead easy, with lots of writers able to provide acceptable output, you can offer a lower rate to keep your team busy. If other forms are a royal pita, or have a very high value to the buyer, offer a higher rate for the "first team"...

          This is how many service shops work. Take a law firm or consultancy, for example. There's one rate for work by an associate, another rate for a junior partner and still a higher rate for a senior partner. The end result may be the same, but the perceived value is higher for the senior people.
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  • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
    Hi Antony,

    It's like asking, "Would you pay $50 for a hamburger?"

    The answers vary depending on the audience, their needs and their expectations. Ask around at Burger King, and the patrons will laugh at you. Ask at Le Jules Verne (the fancy Eiffel Tower restaurant) and you'll get more positive responses.

    Of course virtually no one (unless they were starving) would pay $50 for a Burger King burger. So, as Bill said, it's all about positioning, finding the right target market, and giving them value. Find the right market, and folks will think that $50 is a steal.

    Cheers,
    Becky

    P.S. You may also consider studying copywriting, which is a higher-paying specialty (if you're good).
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    • Profile picture of the author AHayes183
      Hi Wariors,

      Those are some interesting replies.

      BeachBumDad:

      You have it right there, if I dont try I will never know and I do believe I am worth it. Some clients have actually done the honours for me and naturally offered a higher rate which says something (both about what they want and what they think).

      TPW:

      Lol, I think most serious writers can relate to being burned out but it is good to see your thoughts. I have got in touch with a marketing specialist and we are working on a campaign so that I can build up some B2B partners which might work well.

      John:

      I mostly use my writers for my bulk web content and article marketing services, and write everything else myself. In this respect I have always tried to keep the salary even between writers; however, that being said I could consider using tiers. As far as report writing goes, I would prefer to write them myself and make sure that the job is done to my satisfaction. I can then control the supply and demand when I have my own products out there making a buck.

      Becky:

      I understand your point, I would pay $50 for a Steers mushroom burger but certainely not a Big Mac, lol. Not sure if you guys get Steers in the states, but we had it in South Africa. This is solid advice though, I will work on addressing the appropriate audience so that I can get the results I require.

      As for writing squeeze pages and sales copy, I could branch into that and often use a bit of subtle persuading in different forms in my writing; however I think I need to spend my present time capitalising on my assets and using my free time to work on my products.

      Great information from everyone and for that I appreciate it.

      Antony.
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  • Profile picture of the author good2go4
    I think I am going to have to rethink my prices, lol. I am far too cheap !! But personally what I think is that you are probably worth the $50 per page that you want to charge - if your clients are happy with it, and they love the products you create for them then stick to your guns and show new clients why you are worth the money. I think that is the key.

    I don't write for people who tell me "oh, I could get this cheaper somewhere else" - I know they can but to me the question is about value for money. I am English born, with a degree in Journalism - writing is my life and I do provide quality products. I stick to writing ebooks and reports because they are what I enjoy doing. I do all of my own research and I work from home so my overheads are low - I charge what I feel the product is worth in terms of time to me and I don't do this on a flat rate per page.

    I have written more than 100 ebooks so far and so there are a lot of topics i already have resources for - if I don't have to do a lot of research to complete a project then the flat rate per ebook is going to be cheaper than if I have to do a lot of research on new topics. I do charge by the ebook/report because I think that is fairer on the client because they are not going to be hit with any extra charges if the page count goes over the required amount . I know what I am getting for the work I am putting in - I think that is a fair system but it is only my opinion and only what works for me.

    Stick to your guns - you obviously have the skills and your clients will appreciate the products you create for them. And to any other writers out there - charge what you think you are worth; and then set about proving that worth to your clients.

    Have a great day
    Lisa
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by good2go4 View Post

      I think I am going to have to rethink my prices, lol. I am far too cheap !!

      Lisa, the only way you will ever get more money for your work is to demand it from your customers...

      Keep in mind that most of your current clients will quit you rather than to pay more, but they can easily be replaced by people who better appreciate you, are willing to pay you your worth, and complain much less...
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Deegan
    Hey Antony, as others have said it's really niche dependent. Personally I think your best best is to look into becoming a professional at writing white papers. The buyer and seller market for professionally written white papers has a much higher ceiling.

    Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Josiah
    Hey Antony.

    Personally, I would not mind paying you $50 a page if you were a damn
    good writer.

    I'm pretty sure there are MORE than a few people out there that would.

    Your problem is finding them.

    I know many top marketers who do spend A LOT of money getting
    good writers (I'm talking 2k+) to write a simple free report...

    And why?

    Because they 1) HAVE the money

    2) Realize that it's worth the investment

    I've paid writers $50 a page before, and I will if I know it will make me money
    in the long run.

    Josiah
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  • Profile picture of the author Al_Warrior
    If you think if your work worth $50/page go for it and market your self as an expert. If you have a biz website, make it look like you are charging $100/page.....We buy for perception, and if i see your website "not too professional" i would think..."How this guy charge so much with a site like this...?"

    I hope you get the idea, and brand your self, like if you were the Donald Trump of writers...

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  • Profile picture of the author misterhu
    I think you can charge $50 especially if it's well-written, highly researched than the usual, and with a great amount of details. But I agree with them that you have to find large companies or business owners who can pay that amount for your high quality material. You must market them in a way where they'll see it as the best investment useful for a long time.
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  • Hi Antony,

    Bottom line it would depend whether your report generated me a net profit in the long-term. I would also factor in the cost/time involved of correspondence, production, implementation, etc. And of course, naturally the amount that could be generated would depend on the quality of the work.

    So if I was able to generated at least $51 for every $50 paid, after factoring in the above costs, it was scalable, and factoring in of course the opportunity cost (assuming this was the better opportunity at the time), then yes, of course I would.

    I've personally been paid more than $50/page for writing a report for businesses.

    So it really depends. Depends on the quality. Depends on being able to find people who want a quality report and can afford $50+/page, etc, etc.

    John

    Originally Posted by AHayes183 View Post

    Hi Warriors,

    I have run my own content production company for a while now but would like to become a specialist writer of reports and ebooks for clients. I have had a few clients (all of whom have been very pleased with the results) but they have only paid $30/page. The point is, if I want to move into this field full time (I write my own ebooks and run other services), I will need to charge a fee of $50/page.

    This will mostly be for clients who need a valuable report for their squeeze page but it could be for the odd client who wants a solid ebook to sell on clickbank or ejunkie.

    So, for market research purposes, could you please answer the question:

    Would you pay $50/page for a report or ebook, or do you think that this is a little too steep? Keep in mind that I am a professional writer and work closely with my clients so there´s no fluff or silliness, just good old fashioned hard work.

    All thoughts welcome in this regard.

    Thanks,
    Antony.
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  • Profile picture of the author AHayes183
    Hi,

    I have been trying to build my reputaton and believe the best way to do this is through consistency. As for my brand, I think thats something that comes naturally, however I do make an effort to make people understand that I can write well, rather than believe...

    Lisa, thanks for the kind words. I had a look at your "Warriors for Hire" page and your rates are very reasonable. Im sure you could get away with charging a few bob more whilst still maintaining your current clients.

    As for my rates, I think I should keep it varied depending on the project but will certainely stick to my guns in deciding what my time is worth to me and what value I can provide the client.

    John, you make a very good point about each page bringing in at least a dollar than what it was paid for, and in the end it does come down to that. One thing I try to concentrate on is making the reports timeless so that they can pick up emails a few years down the line. I always try to provide really useful / well written information and in that respect, once I hand the report over and everyones happy; I believe all that is left is for the client to leverage the kind of profits that they want to achieve.

    Daniel, I class a white paper as a type of report so it really depends on who wants what. Thanks for the input though, definately something I can look more into.

    Thanks Warriors.
    Antony.
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  • Profile picture of the author TristanPerry
    As Paul rightly points out, it depends on the target market and context.

    I personally wouldn't pay that much, but I could imagine plently of companies paying more than 4 figures for a fairly good sized report (100 pages? At $50/page that's 'only' $5k, whilst I could imagine a company would pay more?).
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  • Profile picture of the author fated82
    I wont pay $50 a page for report I am giving away for free. i could easily get a PLR ebook for $2 and polish it up and give away.

    Having said that, if I am sure that the report you produce is great and can be sold easily, I would get that and do an upsell.

    'Give Away' reports should be low cost but high perceive value.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jack Duncan
    Antony,
    Ultimately, the market is king.

    You may very well be able to persuade the market to pay you $50 per page -- as long as you prove that each page is worth MORE to them than the $50 they will part with to get it -- and you can deliver.

    For example, I'd pay you $50 per letter, if you persuaded me that you could write out the specific details for the location of some long lost pirate treasure...



    So, there are two critical elements here:

    1. Your ability to persuade your market that your work is worth more than $50 per page

    2. Your ability to deliver content to your market that is worth more than $50 per page



    You have to consistently meet both requirements. You can't have one without the other and stay in business very long. (at this price point)

    However, meet both requirements, and there is no reason to settle for a penny less.

    Hope this helps,
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