More & more Javascrpt and Flash Disabled

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Have noticed a marked percentage of visitors with both flash and javascript disabled. I assume to help prevent the intrusion of viruses in the machines of less savvy users?

Then heard on radio today, about a 'movement' toward straight HTML due to it's speed, and because some hand-helds do not support flash at this time, (though there are plans for it's support in the works in many of the phone workshops).

It would appear, for mobile device, at the very least, a site should degrade well. (still look good with flash and javascript turned off.)

Also, with mobile, many pay per gig delivered, so a strict HTML site would cost less. (If they want to watch videos, it is easy enough to 'left click' and allow applications for single instances).

Instead of the internet making people stay home, it is more and more being used mobile, such as a group in a bar can share videos or whatever in a bar and see the reactions of their friends instead of sending a link or posting on Facebook and what have you.

Beginning to think, mobile will be a very large (if not the largest) group of users soon. Instead of getting fancier, seems to be a retro coming down the pike. Especially as older users are sucked into the net by need (health insurance companies, as one example), and are either technophobes or just uncomfortable with new stuff and are looking for basic machines (with big easy to see buttons).

A good site/sales page needs to look good on a phone as well as a 900 X 1440 screen. Not as prevalent still, yet, but seems every day there is more and more mobile activity and less and less javascript and flash turned on.

Just a trend I am noticing. Every niche would no doubt be different, check your logs?

(BTW- did you know the latest version of On-Star allows you to update your status on Facebook... WHILE DRIVING!?!?!?!)

"Officer, I was on the phone with my sick grandmother while texting my daughter who didn't come home last night and updating my Facebook to see if anyone was near enough to check on grandma, when the tree ran out into the road!"

It is a crazy as recycled cardboard computers... what kind of a box do they come in?

A thought.
Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    I noticed it, and then heard it addressed on this show. (There is a listen button, runs about an hour). Computer Guys & Gal | The Kojo Nnamdi Show
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by DogScout View Post

    Have noticed a marked percentage of visitors with both flash and javascript disabled. I assume to help prevent the intrusion of viruses in the machines of less savvy users?
    Ask yourself this.

    What the hell good does it do your VISITORS to have Javascript and Flash turned on?

    You use Javascript to run pop-ups and track your stats.

    You use Flash to autoplay sales videos and set "supercookies."

    What's in it for your viewers?

    They don't want your damn pop-ups and sales videos, and they don't give a crap about your stats and cookies.

    You want them to run Javascript and Flash, make it worth their while.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      I wouldn't bet too heavily on getting sales on a mobile phone.
      I booked a hotel once and almost went nutzoid.

      You have always needed to program for flash and non flash people.
      Same with javascript. That's why that noscript tag, but not sure if
      it's useful to actually use it except to tell people to turn it on.

      I use the facebook app on my blackberry. Very easy to share anything
      with it. Not sure where you got that you can't do facebook in a bar.

      If you are really into mobile, why aren't you doing a mobile site?
      Or better still, doing an app?

      The simple things are best, aren't they?

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    • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      What the hell good does it do your VISITORS to have Javascript and Flash turned on?
      It gives visitors the ability to use AJAX/JQuery/Flash/Silverlight user interface features to play games, to view picture galleries and videos, to use product color/detail/option selectors, to display product inventory counts/availability and so forth and to do many other things that link up frontend and backend processes that would not be possible or very tedious with HTML and server based scripting alone.

      So, like you said, make it worthwhile for them too.
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