Is there anything that really works???

Yeah something I know that works is not buying money making products and using that money for advertising.

I spend alot of my money on advertising on and off-line and research.

I do alot of list building "i use get response, but if you are looking to use a free one there is listwire"

I optimize my page but don't do to much more than that as far as seo goes it's to time consuming for me in my niches (mostly because of large corporations) so I'll go on places like fiverr and pay people $5 to post articles and backlinks for me

I NEVER use google ads or any other major ad service like them they are over priced in my opinion now.

I have gotten in to mobile advertising because it's pretty cheap but I use a mobile optin page to captue an email

but like I said I do mostly paid advertising. That works best for me.

I have been making good regular money by freelancing in between writing my own products and this has really worked for me. I have been making money online for more than ten years this way - the IM and niche marketing is a relatively new thing for me - but the extra money I have been making from writing every week has been really handy in our family. Feel free to PM me if you want some details on how to get started

Best of luck
Lisa

What are you doing to try and make money? I don't mean the spending and buying, but the action of doing.

I know it works because it worked for me. I MADE it work. I started out ten years ago. I used to buy this and that, looking for something or someone to tell me how to make a living online. I spent more time (and money!) trying to find all the answers. I couldn't figure out why I couldn't made good money. (Good money for me at the time was maybe $500 a month.)

Then one day, about five years ago, it hit me... I wasn't DOING anything. I was buying and reading, searching and reading, downloading and reading... but not ACTING on any of the information in my head. I started acting and doing.

You can do it!! The trick is to stop reading and start acting. If you go and go and see you aren't getting anywhere, make a turn and keep going. Like traveling on the open road, sooner or later you're going to get there. Just keep driving!

Hope this helps....

Cindy

well, i do not blame you at all, and you are correct, most of the things people sell online is a scheme and although it might give you some info and some "how to's", altimately it comes down to hard work and understanding how things really work online.
Just about anything now days can be searched on google and answers can be found, i do not believe one has to pay for information, at least not in this century...
so what is it that you are looking to do? sell goods online? VAR business online? online publisher?

i can tell you one thing, anything is possible, one can sell pink colored pencils and make a killing, one can simply open n blog and talk about life and generate good income via banner advertising, one can open a youtube channel and make a killing ( as much as $4000 a day ) anything is possible...BUT we have that BUT factor, which is traffic. without traffic, none of this is possible. So one has to understand how the web works, one has to have an understanding of SEO, content writing, meta tags, how search engines grab content, how link popularity works etc.
so tell me what you are trying to accomplish online and i will do my best to help you right here on this thread rather then you purchasing another 'how to" material.

Robin, it sounds like you have found several ways that didn't work for you. I went through the same process, as I'm sure many here have. The key is to never give up. It's ok to get frustrated, everyone does, but never give up.

Keep taking action, even if it's only one thing a day. Over time, the actions you take will pay off.

I discovered many years ago that I am a half-way decent writer. Not the best, not even close to the best, but good enough to be able to sell some of the writing I was doing. I created small 10-15 page sites and flipped them. It worked quite well, but to me was incredibly boring.

I then branched off into affiliate marketing and discovered a lot of different ways to lose more money than I was making. Eventually, after much trial and error, I developed a method that worked for me.

Test, Test, Test, and Test some more until you discover what works for you.

Hi Robin! It's easy to get caught up in all of the hype. After all, every email and every website promises to have the end-all-be-all-super-product-that-you-can't-afford-to-live-without!

That being said, you're right...most of it is junk. The only products/tools that I have bought are ones that I researched first. There are plenty of people who will host free webinars. You'll get some good information, and, at the end, you'll get to hear about their product. That's how I've found a few products that are actually meaningful (without the hype!)

As far as making money goes, you have to start by thinking about what you WANT to do. Do you want to be an affiliate marketer (if so, what niches interest you)? Start your own business (i.e. providing content or web design services)? Freelance? Pick something that makes YOU happy. Remember, this is going to be your job. Sure, you may get to work at home in your PJ's , but it takes alot of work to succeed on the world wide web. That's why you need to pick an area that you're interested in. If you get bored, your visitors will notice.

Until you figure out which direction you want to go it, I would suggest not buying any more products. Get your own path situated, then see if there are any experts out there who can help you move forward.

Stop buying information products. If you do buy anything, pay for something that will generate value by itself, not something "telling you how" to generate value.

Build a website with something substantial, information people actually want to read and not something where you have to beg and plead for traffic just to have them bounce off the page anyway. Build a site on a topic that is not too saturated. Once you have that, find affiliate offers that your audience would be interested in and place them (tastefully and non intrusively) on your site.

It is not quick, its not easy, but if done properly it will make you money.

There are ways that work, it;s just that they require hard work an most people are looking for an eay buck, work smart not hard and you can succeed . .

Hi Robin,
I feel your pain ... been there done that. I can tell you it does work so don't give up yet. Here's my advice ...

Yes, taking action is a biggie BUT just as important is FOCUS!

My business is (for the most part) a business to business situation. My target market rarely is for anything else. In the 15+ years I have been doing this I have never known a client not to see success (large or small) within four years AS LONG AS THEY REMAINED FOCUSED!!!!! That time is relative to the effort (action) and focus that was put into it.

#1: STOP BUYING NOW!!!!!!

#2: Decide what you want to do/be (when you grow up lololol) ... pick something you have a passion for that has been with you a large part of your life. Perhaps that's weight loss, dunno!

#3: FOCUS ... stay on track ... DO NOT EVEN LOOK AT ANYTHING THAT IS NOT WITHIN YOUR PASSION!

#4: I see the link in your sig goes to http://fatfighterscorner.com/ ... I assume that's your website, correct?

If it's not ... you might want to do something of your own.

If it is, it appears you're doing (for the most part) affiliate marketing which is fine, BUT you could do so much better with something of your own and roll that to the side for some extra cash. IF you prefer to retain the affiliate marketing start writing articles and posting them to the directories and have your resource box go back to your site.

Kill the review on the main page ... actually, move it deeper into the site and post your own articles. Post often or find related reprint articles to post.

I don't understand why you "Blog" link goes to BlogSpot. Why would you do that if you have a Wordpress setup rolling?????? What would you do is BlogSpot went belly up?

#5 If you don't feel you're a writer you're probably wrong. 90%+ of us can write very well if the topic is something we have a passion for. Use PLR or reprint articles for seed. Your topic is way too popular to not be able to find good articles you can brainstorm with. When writing your own or rewriting others do it in such a way that you're talking to a friend. Be sure to use spell and grammar check.

#6: FOCUS

#7: Become very active in forums as a reader and contributor. Look around for a guide that I believe is called "Forum Marketing" ... you should be able to find it for free (might have to signup for a newsletter but that's ok) ... if not PM me and I'll see if I can hook you up for free.

Find forums that relate to your niche and become very active!

I can't stress this one enough. You see I was a warrior forum member way way back! Long before the current forum was more than a part of Allen's wish list. I can say without a doubt that I made it because of my contacts here. But remember ... this is an IM forum and unless your niche is IM related you'll only do so much.

#8: Read this ... http://frankkern.com/?p=31

#9: I highly recommend "The Secret" ... if you haven't read it or seen the DVD go to Amazon and get it. I know I said quit spending money but this is an exception.

#10: Did I say FOCUS?!?!?!?

There ya' go .... THAT'S the secret to success in business, life and so much more! I hope you find this useful.

I am convinced that the best way to make Money online, is to sell something that tells everyone how to make money online. I could be wrong though.

Weight loss is a tough nut to crack. You really need to be able to find less competitive keywords to try to rank for. Big niches are not impossible to get your little slice of the pie but they do take some skill to conquer. And that is just your on page SEO. You don't mention what kind of marketing you are doing. Article marketing is free. Slow, but free. Same with forum marketing.

I was interested in your site and wanted to look at various posts but everytime I selected a new page I got hit with your pop over or whatever those things are called. It was really irritating and I wound up leaving without seeing as much as I would have otherwise.

I think your title pretty much sums up the problem as I see it

Too many people are looking for a product, or ebook, or strategy to make them money. If you look at the WSO section now, the vast majority are selling dreams, that for the vast majority of buyers will never come true.

In my view, there are a few basic ways to make money in IM:

(1) put up some articles on the big article directories, and look to sell affiliate products, and get traffic through, either, or both, of (1) internal article directory traffic, or search engine google (namely Google). I know a lot of folks on here do this and it works well for them. For me, I prefer to have pretty much all my own money pages on domains that I own rather than others' sites, so i namely do #2.

(2) put up some keyword optimized content on one or more domains that you own, and rank those optimized pages in Google and the other search engines. this is my preferred method at the moment. I prefer to build up my own domains that I can just monetize or flip later.

(3) PPC. Pretty self-explanatory. It just isn't for me, but I know alot of others do well with it.

There are of course 1000s of other ways to make money online, wiith "facebook cash", and "twitter cash", flipping domains, and blah blah blah. You can also of course put up your own products here at WF (or other IM forums) for sale, such as in the wSO subforum.

BUT....I think the vast majority of the people that fail to make an appreciable income online keep on straying away from the basics. They are looking for the next big, and no doubt the "How I made $4329 last week on Twitter" WSOs probably jump and call out to them, unfortunately.

So, my advice is to focus on one of the "big 3", and milk it for all its got, learn all you can and master it. At least to the level of where it is a very nice some (semi) recurring monthly income. Until you've done that, I would put blinders on and stay away from any of the other offers. Basically..You don't need more WSOs to teach you the secrets of making solid money from the big 3, you just need focus (which seems to be harder and harder to come by these days). If you are going to spend money, spend it on something tangible. Spend it on buying new domain(s). Spend it on outsourcing content if you need to. Spend it on software. Stop spending it on make money ebooks.

Tom

There are so many methods to get earning online and a lot of rehashed crap you've bought IS actually very good stuff that if you were to really dig into and follow step by step, would actually help you to make money.

What are your strengths?

Do you have some skills that could be marketed as a service?

If you're excellent at writing, graphic design, Wordpress, SEO etc. you could get a nice start providing these services to others.

Help others alleviate a problem THEY have and your will go away as well.

Mike

1) Stop spending money.
2) Sit down and write out your plan. Use Outline form and flesh it out where you are not clear on what you want to do, or think you are supposed to do.
3)There are people out there that can help in areas where you are weak. Ask for it. Be specific. This is where the outline helps.
4)And once again...TAKE ACTION...and MORE ACTION...and keep a positive attitude.

I like the idea of service based business as good2go4 suggested works for her.
Instead of selling the next big "secret" as a product... try writing the "next big secret" as a report and selling it to those who will make money with it.

It's a win - win idea don't you think? Just a thought....

Go to clickbank, look through the categories and see if something sparks your interest, look to see what is hot and selling in each category..

Write down a few of the sites that are hot see what they are selling, take the main keyword and start doing some searches in google like "keyword+forum" and "how to keyword".

See what people are REALLY interested in then think to your self can I create something that people will want to buy? Is these wondering people buy ready? Are they looking for a solution to heir problem?

If so then go with it.. if not then start over..

If so then head over to scriptlance.com or freelancer.com and open an account, once in post a project for a content writer, you will have to base what quality you get depending on your money situation. But you can get good reasearch for a reasonable price, let them do the grunt work in researching and putting it all together, get 10 articles, and a ten page report.

Once you get it go over it and make sure it is not copywrited material.

Now there are several things you can do..

I suggest you come here and post a wso for the plr to the product, charge anywhere from $10 to $15 for the FULL PLR to the content.

Offer a limit on it such as 50 to 100 ONLY.

It will cost you $40.00 to run but if you get 50 buyers that comes out to $500 or $750 - the $40 and what it costed to create it..

Repeat.. keep doing this until you become an expert at it.. Think of other things to do as well, you can make a full time living off the WSO section alone..

You can also build a site around the content, and offer the 10 page report to get subscribers.. build traffic to it and then either keep it or sale it..

Hope this helps some..

regards,
Dennis

bottom line... learn to sell

focus on things people want... find out the objections, questions, feelings they have about the stuff they want... and help them.

"you can have everything you want in life if you help enough other people get what they want" Zig Ziglar

also... go get my free software at 7 Day Blog Profits Software - FREE Download! and attend all the free webinars i put out... there is a ton of info in them.

PPS... the true answer to the question... "is there anything that works" is...

No... nothing works... no one makes money online and no one is buying stuff online.

its kindof a sarcastic answer but really puts things in perspective... lots of things work - lots of people make money... right now millions of people are online and someone is making money... so find out what they are doing and do it better :-)

Anything that promises you thousands of dollars a month on autopilot, with almost no effort is definitely hype, so yeah, don't fall into that trap. Most of the "get on the first page of Google" promises, are just the same basic strategies, there is no magic solution. You need to put in the work.

Based on the site in your sig, your problem is from poor keyword and competition research before getting started, poor SEO optimization, not providing good quality content, and focusing too hard to sell to people that are looking for information.

Please take this as constructive critique, I'm not trying to offend. You currently rank #1 in google for that name "fat fighters", but that's not really what most people search for. You are nowhere to be seen for things like weight loss, or diet plans. This can, of course, be overcome with SEO strategies, but diet and weight loss is a extremely competitive niche, so it won't be easy. It will be a long uphill battle. You really need to go back to your keyword research and try for some lower hanging fruit.

The bigger problem is the content. You don't really offer any good content. Everything on you site is an attempt to sell. I'm sure that "wedding weight loss" gets a lot of searches, but I doubt any of them are looking for a list of reasons they should lose weight. Weddings are already stressful enough, and I'm sure their weight is already adding to that, which is why they are searching. Do you really think it helps them to confirm their worst fears: their husbands will be ashamed of them, everyone at the reception will notice they are fat, and it will be permanently captured in the wedding pictures? Many people will still be overweight even after pre-wedding diet and exercise. The last thing they need on their big day, is your list floating around in their head. Can you even guarantee that what you are trying to sell them will even work? Provide a solution, don't provide the problem.

The thing is, you don't provide any solution at all, just a link (to a broken site, by the way). Take a look at the top sites for your keywords and see what they are doing. Some have really good free content, with diet tips and exercise plans, and subtle monetizing options. Some are really elaborate sales pages, selling quality products. People are quickly getting tired of the cheesy sales pages. You either need to go all out, and create a really outstanding sales page for an outstanding product, or create good free content that will keep your visitors on your site. If your content is good, but leaves them wanting more, they may click the ad on your site.

Speaking of which, you have 3 banner ads at the top of the pages that are completely unrelated to your niche. They are hosted by Google, so either you set something up incorrectly, or your on-page SEO is even worse than I thought, and Google has no idea what your site is about. I would also go with the text based ads rather than the banners.

One last thing. I know that pop-up opt-in forms are all the rage, but when someone closes the opt-in, it should stay closed, for the whole day, or at least the session. When it pops up every time you you visit another page, that is a good way to drive people away.

My advice is to always put yourself in the place of your visitors, and ask your self if your site is what you would want to find when searching on those keywords. There are two main things to concern yourself with, traffic and conversion. You can't convert sale or opt-ins without traffic, and all the traffic in the world won't help, if your site doesn't convert to sales/list. The first thing you need to figure out, right now, is which is the bigger problem, traffic or conversion. Then try to figure out what the cause is, and work on that first.

I noticed the site in your sig is ranking number 6 for the term "fat fighter" which gets like 880 searches a month.

When I did the search, I see a bottle of pills called fat fighter in the shopping results picture. Did you try and sell those?

On your site you are trying to sell the diet solution ebook. I would switch it to the fat fighter product and continue to build more back links to get a higher position in the search results for the term fat fighter.

Most of your backlinks anchor text for the site in your sig are for "fat fighter". If you want to sell the diet solution ebook you should optimize your page for that term and get backlinks with diet solution as the anchor text.

Hope this helps,
Terry

Hi Robin,

If you are looking to make your first couple hundred bucks a week, then the simplest and fastest way to do that will be to offer freelance services at sites like odesk.

You can work as a VA or project mgr, write content, do linkbuilding, etc... There are lots of jobs there, you just gotta be willing to go get them.

Just keep working, like they say, no one ever fails at internet marketing, they just give up before they make MONEY!

WOW ... I can not believe all the support I have received from this post. I got home about an hour ago (and have been reading ever since) and I was hoping to see if at least a couple of people responded and I was completely amazed that there were 29 responses!!! I SO appreciate every piece of advice given from each and every single one of you.

There is so much I want to respond to but I will have to do it tomorrow when I can take more time then I have right now since it is after midnight and I have to be up in six hours to get my daughter off to school but I wanted to thank you for all your feedback tonight. The details and care that you showed really overwhelmed me (in a good way ;-) ).

A lot of you really got my mind thinking and I have made some changes to my fatfightercorner website already -- as you suggested. Please feel free to give all the advice you wish, I really appreciate your suggestions and value your opinions.

Yes, there are many business models that work. When I started out I was completely broke and desperate for money. I was married to someone who thought that his job was to play video games while I brought in the money. So, like most people, I started trying anything I could think of to bring in money online.

I was successful with several projects, but I saw a lot more success when I cut back on how many irons I had in the fire.

Sit down and take stock of what you know or have already purchased (so you could know if you used it instead of buying more). Then make a list of 4-5 possible business models. Note that a business model is not a single task, like bringing in traffic or building a list. The business model is how you plan to make money from start to finish.

For instance, these are some common internet marketing business models that I have used:

* Micro Niche sites that bring in cash from CPA, Adsense, affiliate sales, etc.
* Creating a product and building a blog and email list around it - then marketing to your list while giving them what they really want in terms of information
* Creating a retail site and selling *gasp* physical products and dropshipping as well
* Flipping sites. Creating sites, making them profitable and selling or selling new sites that are set up to make money

Then, think about what your strengths are and what you want out of your business. Money is not the only thing to consider. Where a lot of internet marketers run into frustration is trying to guess where they will make the most money. This is backwards. You will make the most money at what you are best at doing. For instance, I am great at selling retail products on some of my sites - but it is not what I want to be doing in five years since I have to spend so much time shipping. So, those sites have been or will be sold. (Flipping online retail is lucrative too, just so ya know!)

If you enjoy learning and sharing information, building a business around a product is a great way to go. If you hate dealing with emails from fans/customers/inquirers and you don't want to have to keep up a blog - then this might not be your best business model.

Then, focus on just that one thing. No new products unless they are truly missing pieces of the puzzle you are working on at that moment. Become really, really good at that one thing.

You'll find doors opening and money flowing because your attention is all in one place (and the gurus won't be sucking your wallet dry!).

I am working as SEO for our own company. That is much worth job. You can do for some other's website which make some money for you.

Robin this is just a thought but why not combine these... take all of the money making material that you've purchased over the years, sort through it all, kill all of the hype and develop your own IM products to sell. If your passion is creating things from someone's ideas then take what you have and create something new that will help people make money on line... Invent the BETTER mousetrap!

Every single dollar and cent that I have earned in the past /can't even remember how many/ years comes from Internet marketing.

This is what I do:
1. Being so super smart I come up with 300 brilliant ideas per minute
2. Out of these 300 brilliant ideas, a really tiny percentage will turn into projects
3. Out of the 10-15 projects that I actually develop only 1 (ONE) will become a success and the rest will fail (although I don't count them as failure)

... and then I pretty much rinse and repeat.

As for making couple of hundred per week - write articles or product reviews and even if you spend 2-3 hours per day doing just that, you should be able to earn $100+ easily per week.

Robin,

2 things I've tried that have worked really well for me:

1) building sniper sites (niche targeted affiliate sites)

2) Building a list in the IM niche and making money from them..

I would suggest if you wanna start off from scratch again, do the latter. It always works if you build a great relationship with them and that isn't too hard at all- just offer great content and share awesome strategies.

You can then start making money from promoting affiliate products to them (even if there are no bonuses, tons of people still buy!! Serious.), and even better, crreating your product and making money from it!

Hope this helps

Dear Robin,

I am an ebook junkie too, it is addictive.

Over the years this is something I learn about IM: "you don't need to know everything in order to make money".

I have since scaled down my "addiction" and did a personal inventory on where my interest lies in and what methods showed some results for me.

I have since focused my energies on what worked and my online income has doubled the last half year while keeping my expenses down. And is still increasing month to month.

The myth about IM for me is that "it doesn't take alot of work and things about being automated" the truth I found is that a business is still a business, and it has to run like a business. Once you reach the economies of scale you can then scale things up, plan and rework things such that it is more systematize and easier to manage.

Wishing you the best of luck.

Hey Robin,
I would like to share with you what works for me during the past one month.

I have been doing Internet marketing for 3 years and no results.

This year on 29th June, I signed up to a mentoring program.

Before I signed up, I made my decision that I will do whatever it takes to succeed in this program.

I started to attend the webinars and implement the strategies taught.

I completed my assignments and tasks given to me.

And on 29th Aug 2010, I completed setting up my marketing system, successfully wrote my salescopy, created my own products and gained approval from Clickbank as a vendor. Tested my squeeze page and everything is good to go.

I started to build my list.

And as of today 8th October, just over one month, I build a list of 2500 subscribers and growing and made $1000 in profit selling my own products.

This is what works for me.

Hope it helps,
Winson

What have you tried? If you worked for several years in the internet, you must have made money. Have you tried the easy things like micro niche adsense websites?

I dont think it is the system you are choosing, but rather how you are marketing it. PM me. I am more than willing to help you find something that works. No, I am not trying to sell you anything...lol.

Robin,

I work with offline Business and help them set up their online presence. Take what you know and help some of these business's in your local area. I am sure you have learned a lot in the last couple of years reading, put it to good use. Stop buying products now though. Read this forum and you will get a good education in IM. Contact me if you need any more information.

Rick

Is most of what you buy actually "hype" or is it that you don't DO anything with 98% of what you buy?

The thing that REALLY works is taking action. I dare say that if you actually and fully implement that 98%, 50% of it will make you some money!

Of all the equipment you've try which did you like the best? If you can slim that down then possibly we can lend a hand you by way of some more details on how to make it vocation for you.

My biggest suggestion is to make your own products, of what you know, it dosn't have to be to " get rich online" but everyone has skills, whats yours?

The information you have in your head, that you personally think is just useless information, could be valuable to others.

I don't know your interests, but maybe you know about collecting, construction,web design etc the sky is the limit.

whats your interest, whats your niche?

when you figure that out, your 50% of the way to making money online.

then use that information, to help others, and yourself.

Here is what works getting of your butt and work hard.... There is no magic tree or potion.

The 3 key ingredients for success are motivation, continuously learning Internet marketing, and working your butt off especially in the beginning.

Article marketing
Blog commenting
SEO
Video marketing
Blogging

ETC.... ETC.... Whatever works to get your business up and running!

There really is no other place on the net that you can find such helpful and caring people. I am so impressed with all the suggestions you guys and gals have provided for me and others that have found your feedback useful.

You all have been so very helpful and given me such great ideas and I have started working on a project and plan to bring it to you first for your feedback. Of course this is going to take me a while but you will know when it is done :-)

Right now the thing I would just like to know is, is there any company out there that can really generate traffic into sales? The traffic part is what I am really struggling with. I just can't seem to figure out the trick to getting people to buy!!! I have 21 websites up and running and they all get 30-50 clicks a day on average but I have not received one single sale!!!!

I would love to hear your feedback on that topic!! I am doing article marketing, SEO and backlinking currently -- again, getting the traffic to the sites does not seem to be the problem -- just not sure why they aren't converting!! :-(

Thanks a ton!!!

Robin

You know what works hard work, busting your butt, and always learning on a continuous basis. Those are the ingredients for your success soup.

Sorry no money tree, or magic pill.

it may not seem like it at times and it can get discouraging, but you have a nice secure shot building a list & building rust with taht list. and i would recommend an IM List

Thanks Nikitta:

I have signed up for your information and I look forward to reading it. I look forward to learning from you and working together!!

My rule of thumb is that pretty much everything works! The defining factor is to what degree, ultimately you either make more then you spend or not. Efficiency plays a key a role since this is more of a process where all the pieces must work individually as well as together.

A huge obstacle I continuously run into is production value... to race in NASCAR with any possibilities of winning, you're going to need a car to spec. Many people race head on to compete in very complex environments without the commitment and resources it takes to make it happen. Make no mistake about it, it's a competition.

Choose your fields wisely analyze the competition, these are the folks you will be competing with.

Ultimately I would have to say the key factor to making something work is listen, listen, listen... There are many opportunities out there, identify possibilities and creating a product to meet those needs have been my bread & butter for quite some time now.

In closing, it's about doing, finding and if everything is lining up, having a good time while making some dough. Good luck on your adventures! may you find what you need.

Robin,

Here's my startup story...

Basically, I immediately took these steps 1 month after checking out of the hospital where I stayed for a full month, permanently totally blind by then:

1. Find something to do like tasks doable by someone who's totally blind. I found this software here used by totally blind and vision-impaired people to use the computer, software and the Internet.

2. Find something I can do with my software like an opportunity to earn income by completing tasks doable by people in my condition. When I still had eyesight, I assembled computers to resell at a higher price, using the buyer's downpayment to buy the parts and accessories, and also offered my software installation and troubleshooting services as well as my photo editing and graphics design services to our neighbors, their neighbors and friends, our friends, their friends and colleagues, etc. I decided to try and assemble computers while totally blind. While testing it out, my wife helped me out, so she learned how to do it. We marketed computers for about 2 months, with sales amounting to $400/month of net profits. We survived with our then 7-month old daughter, but sales dwindled the following month, so I decided to try and find something else to do, something that's more stable since I didn't have the capital to invest in the computer assembly and sales business and make it more stable than just the word-of-the-mouth campaigns we're doing.

3. I heard about outsourced medical transcription and a computer school for the blind in our country offering a training program with the promise of instant employment after the 3-month course. Having no money, I decided to talk to the school administrators and exchange whatever it is they need done with the training course. They needed a Web developer for their website. Not Web design, just HTML and a bit of PHP and database configuration and management. On top of the training course, I'll be paid $1 per hour to do this. My wife took a $200/month job as an accountant of a company in the garments industry. Problem was: I didn't know HTML, PHP and database configuration and management. Nevertheless, I told them I can do it and start the following week. They agreed. In one week, I learned HTML, PHP and database configuration and management on my own by reading about useful and relevant content on various websites. I started working on their website, stopping for the daily 4-hour medical transcription course in the next room. After 5 days of the medical transcription training session, I quickly realized their trainors were not equipped with knowledge and skills which can actually help blind people to learn relevant things and start working as medical transcriptionists. They weren't even capable of properly using necessary software programs with our screenreaders. I decided to stay though, for the Web developer post. Also, after I completed the changes and improvements on their website for 2 months, they told me their staff will now take over website maintenance. I was out of the job. They then informed me that my last month's wages will be deducted for paying the medical transcription course fees. I told them I won't be pushing through with the medical transcription training course. They told me the full tuition fees will still be deducted from my wages last month. I took off, not taking what's left of my wages last month, since they were making excuses to delay it anyway. I started looking for another opportunity about a month or so, with me and my family surviving on my wife's $200/month salary and with the help of my mother, father and in-laws. I also heard news that the website I developed for the school won the most accessible website in southeast Asia, but no notification from the school administrators -- notification came from the person who awarded the certificate, who was also my Irish friend and technology consultant of the Taiwanese government at that time, whom I met at the school and he is still a good friend of ours.

4. I heard about Resources for the Blind, Philippines. They were giving away "pay-whenever-you-can" loans for the licensed version of my screenreader. I used the trial version at home, so it had a 40-minute restriction upon every boot. Their only requirement was for the blind person to go through their 1-week pre-employment training course where, upon completing the course, they will send our CVs to prospective employers. Cool requirement, so I agreed.

5. After the training course, I was called for an interview and an exam at an outsourcing company looking for English content writers. I reckon I could write because I had been writing from grade school to college and was mostly exposed to English media materials like comic books, books, movies, TV shows, native English speakers whom were my parent's regular visitors for their global political activism work anyway since preschool (that's why my name's "Marx"). I passed and started working the next day. I was paid $200/month for 4000++ words of unique, high quality content per day, 20 days per month. I learned about Internet marketing because our clients were Internet marketers and Web marketing departments of corporations abroad. This was April 2005.

6. After 2 weeks, I quickly learned that more work = more money, so I talked to my boss and convinced him to allow me to work at home so I can accommodate an additional full time shift. I didn't need an editor anyway and was required to send my daily work directly to my boss. He agreed.

7. I then quickly learned that working smarter = more money, so after 2 months, I convinced my boss I could outsource to my friends and college buddies and do task delegation as well as Q/A work on their output, and I asked for another full time shift. Then, an additional full time shift after a week and another one after another week. I have 5 full time shifts and was earning $1000/month for a combined daily quota of 20000++ words, of which I outsourced 10000++ words of work to my friends and college buddies who can also write and paid them a collective amount of $225/month because I was doing task delegation work, training them daily and editing their tasks to send them comments as well as to ensure the quality of their content. I was then earning $775/month of net profits while working 12 hours/day, 5 days/week.

8. I quickly learned that working much smarter = much more money, so I decided to find my own clients and write for other websites while outsourcing all 20000++ words of work and task delegation as well as Q/A work to others. I paid them all $525/month, so I was earning $475/month with 2 hours worth of work per day, 5 days per week, 20 days per month. I then used 10 hours of my time to write content for write4euros.com and for the customers of constant-content.com. I also cold contacted various corporations in the ICT industry because my boss didn't accept technology-related writing work.

9. I landed 3 global corporate clients and 2 US and EU-based small to mid-scale business clients who needed high value technology-related content writing work at lower rates. They need technology-based content because the corporate clients include a system security development firm and an affiliate marketing firm with software development companies as their merchants while the business clients are affiliates and merchants of the affiliate marketing firm. I worked for them all in a month. I worked 16 hours per day, 6 days per week and another 2 hours per day, 5 days per week for my boss. I then asked my wife, Cherry, to study the existing processes and systems, and asked her to manage the work for my boss. We were earning $3000/month of net profits from our 3 corporate clients, $1200/month of net profits from our 2 business clients and $475/month from my boss, for a total of $4675/month of net profits.

10. I registered what we're doing as a sole proprietor business in September 2006. Our existing clients at that time requested us to find qualified people to do more technology-related content writing work, train them, develop a task delegation/Q\A/task submission/client invoicing system for them and manage them. They offered slightly lower rates because they needed a lot of people. We started with 2 colleagues for a week. We then had to find 40 people, which we did over a span of 2 weeks, and we established an office site, because we were working at home back then, since we had money to do this at that time, and continued growing the company until we ended up with 90 colleagues after 3 months. No website. No backlinks. No PayPal ID.

11. Business growth and expansion. Our clients referred us to their colleagues in their networks. I set up a blog for the company. I went ahead and got a PayPal ID. I learned other tasks and important aspects of Internet marketing. I learned SEO and SEM. I learned about Google PR. I learned about backlinks. I learned to develop other content types, not just written content. I learned about dofollow and nofollow. I learned about online softsell marketing. I learned about copywriting. I learned about online content syndication and online content marketing campaigns. I learned about traffic generation. I learned more about HTML and CSS. I learned more about PHP software programming. I learned formulating and developing training methodologies so I can teach people to do all these things so I can duplicate myself. I also learned from mistakes by formulating better workflow processes and systems then implementing them properly. I learned about establishing yourself as a friendly expert source of useful and relevant info, advice, products and services so real people can benefit greatly from your offers. I learned about developing beneficial professional relationships with clients, potential clients, my colleagues and job seekers. Now, we have manpower resources worth 120 colleagues of ours, 2 Manila-based offices and 9 provincial offices in the Philippines.

This works for me. Hope this helps.

Thanks.

Best Regards,

Marx

There is a secret code amongst many new Internet marketers"Fake it till you make it"

Hi, Im new to this too, although I know about keywords, links, writing articles etc. My big problem is my niche, I don't have one. How do you get one? Can I market someone else's niche I'm basically piggybacking off an affiliate marketing place, have advertised it everywhere, 'I've spent hours surfing, have made $18 in two weeks, but after reading some of the threads on warrior, I'm not even sure if it will get paid.
All your comments are very interesting. I have said to myself "I will not sign up to any marketing scams and pay money, if I can't do this on my own, then I can't do this".

Jmac's method is quite similar to mine. But instead of using Angela's, i jiggle the web...
it's what put my site in google top 3 for the keywords "facial cleanser"

Some warriors say Jiggling is basically the short cut to RD's Perpetual Traffic ( i believe people paid as much as $1K for this course...?) Not sure if that's quite true or not..but this site help my blog get to top 3.
jigglingtheweb[dot]com

Everything works at some time or another. You just have to stay persistent and keep trying and your breakthrough will happen. Sorry I don't have more concrete information for you so all I can say is keep trying and no matter what never ever quit. I not saying throw your money into everything that's out there, I saying keep your head up and keep trying because the race is guaranteed to the fastest runner, but he who keeps on running.

David

I have discovered from experience that if something is not working for me, it simply shows that there's a secret that I have not uncovered. So, I sit down and analyze the situation very well, that is, critically.

What is not working for you, most times, is working for someone else. So, don't pass the buck, just sit down and ask yourself your questions.

I also worked with adsense and some of ptc sites last couple of years.Also actively engage in paid blogging.But money comes too slowly.So I joined freelance sites and now I am making couple of dollars per day and hundreds of dollar per month.

You're struggling this bad for one reason and one reason only.

You're not building your list and you're not sending emails.

There's a reason why they say "the money's in the list."

Some of us struggle for years without building one... including myself.

When I started building a list, I started making money.

When you say all the products you've bought are crap, I bet somewhere inside them it told you to build a list... but you failed to truly give it a shot.

Here's you: I'm going to make money by creating keyword rich adsense blogs. I'm just going to create a bunch of websites and make some money because I love creating websites. The products I buy stink though... even though I never do what they say.

Sounds like you're not yet ready to truly follow anyone else's proven path. You want to make your own path. Just don't expect to grow a real business until you empty your cup and really go the beaten path instead of your own.

What you have is a fun hobby, not a business with lists of customers and prospects. Just building some websites is not growing a real business.

Write good blogs and articles on your products/services and post them in various article sites like ehow.

I think Joe's WSO on building a private practice is what is going to finally work for me.. I have started getting clients and it's only been a week and a half.

i feel ya.... but i think genuine value provided will yield a profit to you eventually... i think... never giving up.. may be key... but i'm not one to speak. hahaha

Robin,

I am in the same boat.

I have a great deal of things i have saved up for, bought and only met minimal return on only to give up and move to the next domain. Currently over 120 domains.

The single best thing i have done is join this forum, specifically spend a great deal of time in Internet Marketing Product Reviews & Ratings. I only wish i would of done this years ago.

Now i cant tell you what does work.. but i can tell you what doesnt work. Loosing focus will kill any efforts. Not managing your efforts as a project with deadlines and goals.

With that.. my suggestion is a free resource that you might find helpful that has at least helped me break even on a few personal projects.

http://www.aceproject.com/packages/hosted/


Good luck!

You have been buying many online program which promised you making money within 30days or less. It may not a bad thing if you know how to extract the good things from the program and then you combine it all to come out your new tool and weapon to hit your niche market. Don't give up is the main keyword in this business. Convert your reading into action today.

There's a ton of stuff that works - you just have to keep beavering away until you find what works for you.

Of all the equipment you've try which did you like the best? If you can slim that down then possibly we can lend a hand you by way of some more details on how to make it vocation for you.

Get yourself a mentor. Its that simple.

1 hour on the phone will save you months of wasted time and money.

Just like you I also wanted to make some $ and I found Q&A sites to be very useful to drive traffic to many sites and make $. I make some cool money and am happy with my effort.

It's really simple....

1. Stop buying any new training products. I'm willing to bet that you're sitting on top of everything you already need to succeed.

2. Review what you already have and start testing out those things they show you how to do.

I would start by looking at those training products that have cost you the most amount of money because they're likely to give you the best results when you apply what they teach. You also have the most emotional investment in them.

When you follow the training do "exactly" what you're shown and don't get creative.

3. Contact the product owner with any questions you have, don't let anything stop you from getting what you need.

4. Out of everything you have access to something will begin to work for you.

Consistency is critical and not giving up too soon is equally also just as important.

Finally, it will always feel like there's something missing. That's human nature and something clever marketers use to part you with your hard earned cash

The only thing that has really worked for me and has created phenomenal results was getting around like-minded people. You want to hire a coach who is already making money to teach you the tricks of the trade. They know about everything that goes on behind the scenes since they've attended seminars and whatnot. Product creation seems to be very big in generating sales so don't shy away from that. Being an affiliate doesn't always provide the benefits people are claiming.

Adsense and affiliate marketing works great for me...

Here's the plan I have used personally to make 25k from one of my sites, it is easy but you have to learn the basics...

The best way to get started is to focus on list building. Here's a plan in a nutshell...

1. Select a niche you love.
2. Create a free report to giveaway for free to your list.
3. Create a squeeze page.
4. Drive traffic to your squeeze page.
5. Build your list and build relationship with them.
6. Ask your list their most pressing problem
7. Either create products or promote affiliate products to solve their problems.
8. Rinse and repeat the above formula.

Forget everything, this is the foundation to start an online business. You can add other systems, tricks, tips and softwares later, but first master the foundation.

Also you have to cultivate your mindset. I would advise you to read 'Think and Grow Rich' and grab an ebook 'The Secret Behind Think and Grow Rich'. These 2 books have impacted my mindset to a solid level. Infact you should read these 2 books first before you start your online business, you will realise why you are failing miserably. It is all in the MIND...

Hi:

Shireen here :-)

I make good income from ebay.

Feel free to read my free ebook for some ideas :-)

a very simple way to make some money online is by creating gigs on fiverr. there are different types of gigs: products and services. Services works really well.

Go there, spend a couple hours, see what kind of services are selling the most, look at the people that are top rated. See what they sell.

SEO services, backlinking works really well. you can write articles for $5 or submit articles to lets say 10 article directories. you can create press releases, submit those. you can create forum profiles on edu sites for examples. these are types of services that work well.

other gigs that work well are graphic related like ecovers, header graphic etc... so if you know photoshop, you can create a gig like that.

Stay away for selling PLR ebooks. it doesn't work. Services work best. that's what people are looking for.

Hope it helps
Emmanuel