Damn spammy lists with... oh wait

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I just got a series of emails in my inbox which positively infuriated me.

Some jerk IMer was sending email from a "support" address, so I couldn't see who it was.

I had like eight emails from him, all with the same subject line.

And that subject line was "Congratulations, you made a commission."

So I angrily opened up the email and scrolled down to hit unsubscribe, but the ******* didn't even have an unsubscribe link.

Now I'm furious, and start looking for more information in the email about who the hell sent this thing and how to go report him to his list provider and his web host and PayPal and his merchant account and, well, everybody.

I mean, really, I'm going to make this [deleted] pay. I'm so sick of these fake commission emails.

At which point I discover that they're not fake.

Two days ago, I started a new promotion for an affiliate product I'd never sold before.

Apparently, it converts.
#damn #lists #spammy #wait
  • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
    WOW I never get spam like that, I wish I did ... no always just regular spam
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    • Profile picture of the author Kamran
      Originally Posted by Cathy Shelver View Post

      WOW I never get spam like that
      Neither do I...but would love to
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      Perhaps that was spam - right here in the warrior forum. Spam! Who would think..

      But I really am happy someone actually made use of something that came to their spam folder.. I don't have time to look at all the spam that comes to mine ( I have created several gmail accounts just to keep from getting distracted )..
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Originally Posted by cabanamatt View Post

        Perhaps that was spam - right here in the warrior forum. Spam! Who would think..

        But I really am happy someone actually made use of something that came to their spam folder.. I don't have time to look at all the spam that comes to mine ( I have created several gmail accounts just to keep from getting distracted )..
        Sorry Sir, the whole thread was a joke. It hasn't even been looked at for sometime.

        There was no spam at all. It was a jokey!
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    I get them all the time as well. Fortunately they land in my spam folder. I just delete them. Wouldn't say that it infuriates me but definitely p.sses me off.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
      I don't think you finished reading the OP. They were not spam he was actually getting sales.

      Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

      I get them all the time as well. Fortunately they land in my spam folder. I just delete them. Wouldn't say that it infuriates me but definitely p.sses me off.
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        No doubt it annoying, I also get those straight to my junk mail : )
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    Wow, that must have been quite the experience - sheer infuriation suddenly transforming into pleasant surprise, I'm sure you must have felt at least a little chagrined at getting so worked up over what was actually a great thing!
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    Lol, imagine if you had reported him for spam :-)

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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    Hi C,

    LOL that's funny. Imagine for once it actually was cashy and not spammy:p

    Good job
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  • Profile picture of the author Sandor Verebi
    Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

    .... Some jerk IMer was sending email from a "support" address, so I couldn't see who it was.

    I had like eight emails from him, all with the same subject line.

    And that subject line was "Congratulations, you made a commission."

    So I angrily opened up the email and scrolled down to hit unsubscribe, but the ******* didn't even have an unsubscribe link....
    Hey Caliban,

    You aren't alone.

    I receive similar letters since three weeks. I read one from among them. And the unsub link also was missed. I delete them without reading since then.

    [bold]Supplement[/bold]: I'm sure they were fake because I did promote nothing.

    I also receive another kind of emails. The sender wants to give the impression that as if I would be the addressee and the sender. The fate ot these messages is the immediate deletion, of course.

    Some men are most inventive. Unfortunately, uses his inventiveness for others' vexation.

    What can you do against them?

    Best,

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    D; I am not alone 2
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    • Profile picture of the author sanssecret
      Might I suggest folks actually read the OP?

      They weren't spam.
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        Originally Posted by sanssecret View Post

        Might I suggest folks actually read the OP?

        They weren't spam.
        What is OP?
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          Originally Posted by hilhilginger View Post

          What is OP?
          Hello,

          OP is opening post.

          I believe the last post on this thread, post hambonz43, was the 10th October 2010, almost 3 months ago.

          Still, it's a nice post.
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          Originally Posted by hilhilginger View Post

          What is OP?

          It is used interchangeably for: Original Post, Original Poster, Other Post, Other Poster.
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          Originally Posted by hilhilginger View Post

          What is OP?
          Original Post. The first post of the thread.
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        • Profile picture of the author alwaysready
          ohh yeah , i know , it is awful indeed and makes me angry as well !
          I think the minimum you can do , at least , and get rid of this is to use gmail , i really love how gmail is good with spam , you almost get only wanted emails and no spam in your inbox so be careful with weird emails and use a strong antispam !:
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            Originally Posted by alwaysready View Post

            ohh yeah , i know , it is awful indeed and makes me angry as well !
            I think the minimum you can do , at least , and get rid of this is to use gmail , i really love how gmail is good with spam , you almost get only wanted emails and no spam in your inbox so be careful with weird emails and use a strong antispam !:
            You are absolutely right, but you need to be careful sometimes those antispam block those "intensive reading comprehension training" mails...
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    The worst is Quick List Profits. Whoever runs this newsletter is just terrible when it comes to un necessary emails. Daily.
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    Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

    At which point I discover that they're not fake.

    Two days ago, I started a new promotion for an affiliate product I'd never sold before.

    Apparently, it converts.
    lol ... mine are all fake
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  • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
    If there was anyone that I would bet my money on could get his point through without confusion it would be Caliban. But more than half of the replies here did not read the OP properly... This is not Rant about SPAM, Caliban actually made sales that he thought were spammy.

    Is this an Indication of how well many people read before they answer all threads, because if it is that is scary.

    Makes me think how many 'IM is BS' complainers never actually read anything properly they bought.
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      Originally Posted by Cathy Shelver View Post

      If there was anyone that I would bet my money on could get his point through without confusion it would be Caliban. But more than half of the replies here did not read the OP properly... This is not Rant about SPAM, Caliban actually made sales that he thought were spammy.

      Is this an Indication of how well many people read before they answer all threads, because if it is that is scary.

      Makes me think how many 'IM is BS' complainers never actually read anything properly they bought.
      This is so true, Cathy. Another annoying habit I've noticed is for people to make nonsensical comments and pronounce snap judgments on a thread before even reading through all the posts. Granted, some of the threads are long and the price of admission is at least scanning through some of the comments, but it seems like many of these people are commenting quickly just for the sake of getting their post count up!
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      • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
        I Know, I used to be so mild and forgiving and felt quite bad when senior warriors went off at some unknowing newbie. In a way I still am, but WOW to just assume from a heading you know what a thread is about is just not right.

        I love that you call it 'price of admission' that is so true. I like posting on this forum to. it gives me a feeling of interaction but atleast try and look like you are adding value when you post.

        Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

        This is so true, Cathy. Another annoying habit I've noticed is for people to make nonsensical comments and pronounce snap judgments on a thread before even reading through all the comments. Granted, some of the threads are long and the price of admission is at least scanning through some of the comments, but it seems like many of these people are commenting quickly just for the sake of getting their post count up!
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        • Profile picture of the author sanssecret
          Originally Posted by Cathy Shelver View Post

          I Know, I used to be so mild and forgiving and felt quite bad when senior warriors went off at some unknowing newbie. In a way I still am, but WOW to just assume from a heading you know what a thread is about is just not right.
          Cathy, I think you still are. It's just that it is happening more and more lately on the forum. Eventually, you reach the point where you just have to let it out. Guess that's why a lot of the more experienced members seem to have shorter fuses. In truth, they've just seen even more of this crap than we have.
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      Originally Posted by Cathy Shelver View Post

      Is this an Indication of how well many people read before they answer all threads, because if it is that is scary.

      Makes me think how many 'IM is BS' complainers never actually read anything properly they bought.
      Cathy ... most of them don't read. I can't tell you how many customers I have who send me an email saying ... I can't install this. There's no instructions. There's a huge link on each sales page for the install instructions, plus a graphic that says installation instructions. lol. Takes up a 1/3 of the page.
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      • Profile picture of the author Martin Avis
        Wouldn't it be fun to have an extra button to report people who haven't read the OP. Six strikes and you get a 24 hour forum ban!

        Oh, the mods would just *love* that one!

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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        Cathy ... most of them don't read. I can't tell you how many customers I have who send me an email saying ... I can't install this. There's no instructions. There's a huge link on each sales page for the install instructions, plus a graphic that says installation instructions. lol. Takes up a 1/3 of the page.
        I know, it's absolutely hilarious. It's like we live in an age where people don't read anymore - all they want is to be spoon-fed with videos or at the very least an audio recording. I don't know what this world is coming to - people aren't willing to read any more, and it reflects (quite badly, I may add) in their grammar and spelling; they spell like they speak due to the fact that they are too lazy to read!
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      Originally Posted by Cathy Shelver View Post

      Is this an Indication of how well many people read before they answer all threads, because if it is that is scary.

      Makes me think how many 'IM is BS' complainers never actually read anything properly they bought.

      It is kind of like Caliban with the original emails...he jumped the gun a bit there too :p
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      • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
        LOL ... yes he did, we all do gun jumping occasionaly, but for more than 5 people to do it in 11 posts was a bit much.

        Originally Posted by Fraggler View Post

        It is kind of like Caliban with the original emails...he jumped the gun a bit there too :p
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    LOL That is funny Martin.Forum could empty out a bit:p
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Buckley
    lol i think i got the same email from support.
    I get an email from him like 3 times per week but my mail doesnt doesnt put it in spam :S
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    • Originally Posted by The16yearold View Post

      lol i think i got the same email from support.
      I get an email from him like 3 times per week but my mail doesnt doesnt put it in spam :S

      ??? wow
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  • Profile picture of the author davtom
    Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

    I just got a series of emails in my inbox which positively infuriated me.

    Some jerk IMer was sending email from a "support" address, so I couldn't see who it was.

    [...]

    At which point I discover that they're not fake.

    Two days ago, I started a new promotion for an affiliate product I'd never sold before.

    Apparently, it converts.
    The takeaway from this for me is as follows:

    1. Not everybody wants the emails that say "Congratulations, you made a commission."
    2. Many people only read about half a forum post before they jump in and have their say!

    On a personal note, I dislike the tricks some people use to get you to open their email messages, things like "Have you collected your commission yet?". If they use those tricks against me, they often find their unsubscribe link is used.

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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by davtom View Post

      1. Not everybody wants the emails that say "Congratulations, you made a commission."
      I don't mind them, really, but I get so many of the fake ones that ANY unfamiliar subject line of that nature causes a knee-jerk "unsubscribe" response.

      2. Many people only read about half a forum post before they jump in and have their say!
      Yeah, I've been thinking of doing a list-building exercise where I have a really attractive headline and graphics, then say horrible things in the body copy like "We do not respect your email privacy. We will rent, sell, lease, and give away your email address to anyone at all whenever we feel like it. We will deliver no value, pitch anything and everything that might pay us a commission, and may very well come over to your house and pee on things."

      Then I'll queue up 180 messages in an autoresponder that have some generic "oh boy are you going to like this" message and an affiliate link to a totally random Clickbank product.

      I'll put the list stats on a real-time dashboard, and charge people $30 a month or $3 a page load to look at them. Every month, I'll release a report on what products I sent the list and how well they converted. And every year, I'll release a big $197 product about everything that happened so far.

      I will make absolutely no effort to hide this from anyone on the list, and when I get nasty email from the members about what a jerk I am, I'll post it on a blog where we can all laugh at it.
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        Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

        Yeah, I've been thinking of doing a list-building exercise where I have a really attractive headline and graphics, then say horrible things in the body copy like "We do not respect your email privacy. We will rent, sell, lease, and give away your email address to anyone at all whenever we feel like it. We will deliver no value, pitch anything and everything that might pay us a commission, and may very well come over to your house and pee on things."
        where's the opt-in form? I want this.
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        • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          I want this.
          You want me to come to your house and pee on things?

          I mean, really, I barely know you.
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          • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
            Reading is fundamental.

            Apparently, here, for some of us anyway, it is non existent.

            Unbelievable. :confused:

            Caliban...great story...loved it!
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          • Profile picture of the author AFI
            It's 100% illegal to email someone without a viable opt out at the bottom. I'd turn him into Spamhaus.com or something of the like.
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            • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
              Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

              This is so true, Cathy. Another annoying habit I've noticed is for people to make nonsensical comments and pronounce snap judgments on a thread before even reading through all the posts. Granted, some of the threads are long and the price of admission is at least scanning through some of the comments, but it seems like many of these people are commenting quickly just for the sake of getting their post count up!
              Paulie, Paulie, Paulie...

              Give them a little credit. Some are posting for the sig file exposure, and some are posting for the SEO links.

              Not everybody is boosting their post count...

              :p:rolleyes:
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    That is funny, Caliban.

    Kind of like furiously looking for your car keys, only to realize they are in your hand.

    All the best,
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    Another spammy story I hate is that about 8 different email adds were sending me mails that they want to put someone's wealth in my bank account. Am I too stupid to believe them? For what to get what all what I have in my account..
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    Participants in thread: 20

    Participants who actually read the OP: 12

    Sort of sad, really.
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      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      Participants in thread: 20

      Participants who actually read the OP: 12

      Sort of sad, really.
      HAHA I just read your whole post. So much for skimming the posts. Congrats on your new opportunity!
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    • Profile picture of the author Gail_Curran
      This thread is both amusing and depressing.

      And the real point of the OP has been totally overlooked. What product were you promoting that converted so well?

      (No, I don't expect an answer .)
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    • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      Participants in thread: 20

      Participants who actually read the OP: 12

      Sort of sad, really.
      Geez, a new record!

      And you're complaining :confused:

      I get those kind of emails all the time. Now I'll actually have to open one to find out wuzup...

      ~Bill

      Edit: Just got one...opened it up...spam.
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    Sorry, I didn't understand which product you said it was that you
    promoted

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      • Profile picture of the author Leslie B
        Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

        I think the commission is 80% up front and 60% on the upsell; I've got three $15 commissions and five $8 commisions, so it's like $85. Not a lot of visitors, either... I've only sold like a dozen copies of the WSO, so almost half of the customers are buying.
        That means that at least half of your customers are taking the time to really look at what you have to offer

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    lol that's hilarious. imagine if you'd email the guy to complain about receiving those emails.
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    • Profile picture of the author mcmahanusa
      I'm a guy. I don't ask directions or read instruction manuals. And when someone writes concerning PMs, it looks like PMS, so I disregard it, since PMS isn't a guy thing.

      Only slightly more seriously, perhaps I'd better look more closely at those types of emails. I get a lot of them with that or a similar heading. My general habit is to delete without reading. Who knows, maybe I really do have some money somewhere.

      Nice moral there, Caliban. Never assume, and don't let your preconceived notions get in the way.
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by Joe.Mc View Post

        The first thing that came to mind when reading the responses in this thread was
        F*kken saved.

        Samwell is awesome.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkAnderson
    CDarklock, Shall I send an email to you with a subject line "Congratulations, you made a commission."

    Definitely, you open it and perhaps I'll make a commission.
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by MarkAnderson View Post

      Definitely, you open it
      Actually, I can see the amount of the commission in the preview... so now that I know they're real commissions, I don't need to open them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
    This thread must have the highest percentage of non readers by far..... Please people read the thread before replying you only embarrass yourself and tarnish your reputation if you post something completely irrelevant
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by Cathy Shelver View Post

      This thread must have the highest percentage of non readers by far..... Please people read the thread before replying you only embarrass yourself an tarnish your reputation if you post something completely irrelevant
      Exactly Cathy, especially when it's pretty obvious from the OP and then the comments.

      Sadly in this case, "Alwaysready" wasn't really...ready. Amazing really when 3 posts above that I reminded someone...

      Sorry Sir, the whole thread was a joke.
      Still, we live and learn.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

        Exactly Cathy, especially when it's pretty obvious from the OP and then the comments.

        Sadly in this case, "Alwaysready" wasn't really...ready. Amazing really when 3 posts above that I reminded someone...



        Still, we live and learn.
        No, Richard, some people just live. And by "live" I mean "maintain the biological processes which clinically define life"...
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