If you are a newbie again. Which Internet Bussiness would you choose to start?

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greetings,

hi, I am a person who wants to start an internet business. Briefly, I am a newbie.

My first question on WF is :

which types Internet business would you choose if you start again?
and what is the reason?

maybe your ideas might help me.

-Asyraf Azmi.
#bussiness #choose #ideas #internet #newbie #start
  • Profile picture of the author IndigoJack
    Well, in the land before time when dinosaurs roamed the earth, I took out a £5000 loan to get going.

    £5000!!!! Shocking!

    If I was to start again I could do it with no cash injection whatsoever.
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    • Profile picture of the author WarForNom
      Originally Posted by IndigoJack View Post

      Well, in the land before time when dinosaurs roamed the earth, I took out a £5000 loan to get going.

      £5000!!!! Shocking!

      If I was to start again I could do it with no cash injection whatsoever.
      It sounded to me as though he was asking what the it would be.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ruth P
    Based on what I've had success with (and I haven't tried everything of course) I would say selling PLR articles for active income (becoming passive in the long term) and product review niche sites for passive income.
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    • Profile picture of the author Asyraf Azmi
      nice sharing. thx
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    • Profile picture of the author Ruth P
      Originally Posted by robharrisonline View Post

      Where do you sell PLR articles? It sounds too easy, you just get articles that have PLR and sell them? Sorry if I'm being naive, I'm a beginner and this is new to me!
      That's ok - no that's not what I do. I actually write my own PLR, so they're much more original and less watered down than those products that anyone can buy PLR rights to for pennies. I sell the articles here and on my own site. It takes work but it pays off
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  • Profile picture of the author Adriana Copaceanu
    Asyraf,

    It depends very much on your natural inclinations. I couldn't do what Ruth said above, because I don't write for others (can hardly write for myself).

    You need to take a look at your aptitudes and knowledge, as well as something you'd enjoy. I know some will say that as long as it's making you money, you don't need ot enjoy your niche or even know much about it. But I beg to differ. If you do somethign you love, it will be much more pleasurable and easier to do at the same time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Asyraf Azmi
    thx Adriana,

    you got the point. i had asking others about how to start internet marketing before this. most of them told that it`s better if i do something i love. but, i don`t know which things is better for me to start. i love to do many things and always trying to do new things. for example, i learned how to dance, martial art, culture art, skateboarding, cycling, jungle tracking and many more. it`s hard for me to focus on the same thing for a long term. but the most thing i like is sharing with others by telling them how to "something" that i known.

    same with my IM exp, i made a search about clickbank, flipping, eBay n so on.

    in other words> Overload Information.

    that`s why i start this thread to know which types of internet marketing is suitable for me.

    btw, sry for my english. i`m too bad with this.
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    • Profile picture of the author Adriana Copaceanu
      Originally Posted by Asyraf Azmi View Post

      for example, i learned how to dance, martial art, culture art, skateboarding, cycling, jungle tracking and many more.
      How about start with a mini site about one of the things you mentioned above.

      For example, do some research in the dancing niche (as well as your other nioches), find some keywords to go after and crete a small site. Then find a good affiliate program and promote a dance lesson or something similar. (let me know if you decide to go for the dancing niche: I'll PM you about a great affilaite program)

      Good luck!
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      • Profile picture of the author Asyraf Azmi
        Originally Posted by Adriana Copaceanu View Post

        How about start with a mini site about one of the things you mentioned above.

        For example, do some research in the dancing niche (as well as your other nioches), find some keywords to go after and crete a small site. Then find a good affiliate program and promote a dance lesson or something similar. (let me know if you decide to go for the dancing niche: I'll PM you about a great affilaite program)

        Good luck!
        hurm.. what if I try to martial arts niche? i hope it`s profitable niche to go
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        • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
          Originally Posted by Asyraf Azmi View Post

          i hope it`s profitable niche to go
          You really have to get technical to make bank in the MA niche, from what I've seen... like have your own personal style and philosophy that people are following. It can be done, but the audience is fickle and demanding.
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          • Profile picture of the author Will Compton
            I would create my own products and membership sites...
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            • Profile picture of the author Asyraf Azmi
              Originally Posted by Will Compton View Post

              I would create my own products and membership sites...
              btw, it`s not easy for new comers like me to have own products. how can they trust and sign up for my membership sites.
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              • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
                Originally Posted by Asyraf Azmi View Post

                it`s not easy for new comers like me to have own products. how can they trust and sign up for my membership sites.
                You know, it seems that way, but really...

                Look, you're into martial arts. So am I. I'll bet that each of us knows some stuff the other wants to know. Because martial arts, that's one of those things where if you're doing it after six months, you love doing it. You don't need to defend yourself or develop self confidence. You're doing it because you love it.

                So I'm guessing that if I said "hey, I've got this nifty technique that is part shotokan and part kali and part wing tsun" - I'm betting you'd think "kicking, overkill, fast, WTF tell me already!!!"

                Do you suppose you'd pay $2 for that technique?

                Why, sure you would.

                How many techniques do you know? Let's see... delayed knife, destructive sword, circle the moon, flashing knives, pull in, hammerlock, the list goes on.

                Couldn't you do a five to ten page PDF for each one?

                $2 each. Look at that. And by the time you hit black belt, there are some 160 techniques, right?

                Now start applying principles and philosophy. Go to John LaTourette for speed. Kevin Wallace for tournament info. Look to the big names. Hell, you can sell half a paragraph out of Bruce Lee's Tao of Jeet Kune Do for $2 all day long.

                You can make a product. You just have to try.
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                • Profile picture of the author research
                  Given the opportunity . . . it is still not too late

                  I would start a "Mobile / Cell Phone" related business.

                  Check the action, check the business, way to go.
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                • Profile picture of the author Asyraf Azmi
                  Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

                  You know, it seems that way, but really...

                  Look, you're into martial arts. So am I. I'll bet that each of us knows some stuff the other wants to know. Because martial arts, that's one of those things where if you're doing it after six months, you love doing it. You don't need to defend yourself or develop self confidence. You're doing it because you love it.

                  So I'm guessing that if I said "hey, I've got this nifty technique that is part shotokan and part kali and part wing tsun" - I'm betting you'd think "kicking, overkill, fast, WTF tell me already!!!"

                  Do you suppose you'd pay $2 for that technique?

                  Why, sure you would.

                  How many techniques do you know? Let's see... delayed knife, destructive sword, circle the moon, flashing knives, pull in, hammerlock, the list goes on.

                  Couldn't you do a five to ten page PDF for each one?

                  $2 each. Look at that. And by the time you hit black belt, there are some 160 techniques, right?

                  Now start applying principles and philosophy. Go to John LaTourette for speed. Kevin Wallace for tournament info. Look to the big names. Hell, you can sell half a paragraph out of Bruce Lee's Tao of Jeet Kune Do for $2 all day long.

                  You can make a product. You just have to try.
                  AMAZING, i get something valuable knowledge from you rite now. seems it was an interesting idea for me to start. OK, I will present the martial arts that come from my country. it is called a Pencak Silat and the people in France are among the practitioners.

                  Thx again. You have a great idea for me.
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                  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
                    Originally Posted by Asyraf Azmi View Post

                    OK, I will present the martial arts that come from my country. it is called a Pencak Silat and the people in France are among the practitioners.
                    I studied Maphilindo Silat for a few months. Struck me as being much like a hybrid of Muay Thai, Capoeira, and Judo. It seemed like the philosophy was more important than the technique, so I wandered off... into Jiu-Jitsu, as I recall.
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          • Profile picture of the author Asyraf Azmi
            Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

            You really have to get technical to make bank in the MA niche, from what I've seen... like have your own personal style and philosophy that people are following. It can be done, but the audience is fickle and demanding.
            So, something must to do with the audience. maybe i should make a research with 'demanding' niche and it`s about something i love. however, that`s something hard to do by newbie.

            *be strong, i can do it!! i can do it!!*
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin_Hutto
    I would probably develop Iphone apps & Games...
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    • Profile picture of the author Asyraf Azmi
      Originally Posted by Kevin_Hutto View Post

      I would probably develop Iphone apps & Games...
      perhaps, it requires skill.
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  • Profile picture of the author D_M_S
    I would have gotten into the vitamin business and rode the **** wave (which is now over). It's surprisingly easy to start your own vitamin line. It ships easily and the sales are straightforward. It's about as easy as a business as you could hope to start.
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by Asyraf Azmi View Post

    which types Internet business would you choose if you start again?
    You know, I think I'd use Trevor Sommerville's Website Flopping concept.

    In a nutshell (and go see websiteflopping.com if you want to drop $47 on the whole thing), it goes like this.

    You build a website with ads and affiliate links. You set it aside. You build another one. You continue doing this for a month. You have no idea what you're doing, so they're all terrible and make next to no money.

    So you continue doing this the next month. And at the end of the month, you go back to all the websites from the first month and look at them. The ones that make the least money, you sell on flippa.com or the like.

    Each month, you get better at making money from your ads and affiliate products. But all you're ever doing is making websites. You just get better at making them. Your sites make more money, month on month, and draw higher prices when you sell them every month.

    what is the reason?
    Eventually, Trevor's system results in a truly passive empire of websites that generate a full-time income without any attention at all. If you need more money for a sudden emergency, you can sell a few sites and rapidly replace them with sites that perform just as well.

    It just seems like the smartest model I've ever seen for a passive yet liquid internet business.
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    • Profile picture of the author Asyraf Azmi
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      You know, I think I'd use Trevor Sommerville's Website Flopping concept.

      In a nutshell (and go see websiteflopping.com if you want to drop $47 on the whole thing), it goes like this.

      You build a website with ads and affiliate links. You set it aside. You build another one. You continue doing this for a month. You have no idea what you're doing, so they're all terrible and make next to no money.

      So you continue doing this the next month. And at the end of the month, you go back to all the websites from the first month and look at them. The ones that make the least money, you sell on flippa.com or the like.

      Each month, you get better at making money from your ads and affiliate products. But all you're ever doing is making websites. You just get better at making them. Your sites make more money, month on month, and draw higher prices when you sell them every month.



      Eventually, Trevor's system results in a truly passive empire of websites that generate a full-time income without any attention at all. If you need more money for a sudden emergency, you can sell a few sites and rapidly replace them with sites that perform just as well.

      It just seems like the smartest model I've ever seen for a passive yet liquid internet business.
      for sure, it takes a lot of money to set up all of them.
      but, it`s better than joining any QuickRich Scheme.

      thx for your sharing. i like it.
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    • Profile picture of the author abundantlife085
      Have you done this?

      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      You know, I think I'd use Trevor Sommerville's Website Flopping concept.

      In a nutshell (and go see websiteflopping.com if you want to drop $47 on the whole thing), it goes like this.

      You build a website with ads and affiliate links. You set it aside. You build another one. You continue doing this for a month. You have no idea what you're doing, so they're all terrible and make next to no money.

      So you continue doing this the next month. And at the end of the month, you go back to all the websites from the first month and look at them. The ones that make the least money, you sell on flippa.com or the like.

      Each month, you get better at making money from your ads and affiliate products. But all you're ever doing is making websites. You just get better at making them. Your sites make more money, month on month, and draw higher prices when you sell them every month.



      Eventually, Trevor's system results in a truly passive empire of websites that generate a full-time income without any attention at all. If you need more money for a sudden emergency, you can sell a few sites and rapidly replace them with sites that perform just as well.

      It just seems like the smartest model I've ever seen for a passive yet liquid internet business.
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by itsliz View Post

        Have you done this?
        No. That's why it's what I'd do if I were starting over. I'm pretty invested in the product creation thing right now, and I'm sticking with that.

        That's the real key: figure out what you're doing, and do it. Don't say "ooh, that looks better!" and run off to do something else. Stay with what you're doing until you make it successful. AFTER that, you can consider what else you'd like to do.

        When I'm doing $2,500 a month from product sales, then I'll start experimenting with flopping. That's my magic number; $2,500. If I'm making $2,500 with model A, then I can go try model B. And I have no problem dumping some or all of what I make with model A to make model B work.
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    Originally Posted by Asyraf Azmi View Post

    greetings,

    hi, I am a person who wants to start an internet business. Briefly, I am a newbie.

    My first question on WF is :

    which types Internet business would you choose if you start again?
    and what is the reason?

    maybe your ideas might help me.

    -Asyraf Azmi.

    For me CPA and Adsense was the easiest way to start earning money. But others have said that being an Amazom Affiliate is a good way to go to get your first few bucks in your pocket !
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  • Profile picture of the author EndGame
    Hi Cdarlock and asyraf azmi.


    A long while back I was interested in going into the self-defense/martial arts route.

    I started a thread about it, and it got a number of really excellent replies.

    Here is a link:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...marketing.html

    I mention it for a couple of reasons.

    1) I think it might help some one looking to go into this niche.

    2) You have re-ignited my interest in going into this niche at some point.

    3) It is one of my biggest regrets that so many Warriors gave me such excellent advice and guidance, and I never took ANY action on it in that market. It is actually one of my biggest "online" regrets.

    Anyway, I hope some of the stuff there is helpful.

    It's been interesting for me revisiting it. Reading it (and being a little older) I actually get a lot more value out of it.

    Pencak Silat is something I have always wanted to learn more about, it looks awesome. Maybe one day I'll get round to it, or perhaps I will buy your course!
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    • Profile picture of the author Asyraf Azmi
      Originally Posted by EndGame View Post

      Pencak Silat is something I have always wanted to learn more about, it looks awesome. Maybe one day I'll get round to it, or perhaps I will buy your course!
      yeah, Pencak Silat is the 1 of interesting martial arts and unique to be learned. i think i have made a pre-selling.

      Pencak Silat -----> Coming soon for warriors on WarriorForum.

      p/s: i`ll give you Free VVIP memberships. Thx, you help me a lot.
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      • Profile picture of the author Asyraf Azmi
        are there any others internet bussiness types to share?
        don`t be shy ladies and gentleman. give your opinions and
        lets share here with others. feel free to reply this thread.

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  • Profile picture of the author EndGame
    I forgot to mention this group:

    WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums - Martial Arts Warriors

    It is a group of people on the forum interested in martial arts. It's not a very active group, but there are some good people there who might be able to help you or give you some perspective if you come out with any kind of product.
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  • Profile picture of the author actionplanbiz
    i would start with product creations, i would try to make a product in the IM / MMO niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Building websites, flipping websites, flipping domains. Same thing I'm doing now. I enjoy what I do.
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    • Profile picture of the author Asyraf Azmi
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Building websites, flipping websites, flipping domains. Same thing I'm doing now. I enjoy what I do.
      how can i try it? maybe you can suggest something for newbie to start. btw, i`m not interesting yet for any paid course or Ebook. because i`m looking for suitable 1 for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author phpnetpro
    I had to start over recently after taking two years off from some severe injuries.

    Both times, I've done it with hardly any money - just domain and website hosting are some of the only expenses for any of my website businesses.

    This time around was a lot harder. I found targeting local search results in search engines is a great way to get a lot of traffic from search engines very quickly.

    I give away the information for this system if you want to know more (in my sig) - completely free info, btw.

    I registered a domain name one day and had over a thousand unique visitors from search engines by day seven - it cost me $15.50 (domain and hosting). I probably could have put even more effort into it than I did, but I had a lot of other things going on at that time that kept me fairly distracted.
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  • Profile picture of the author jenhuei
    For me, I won't spend in any courses anymore and look for all the free resources and advice especially in WF. Then pick one strategy and a few traffic techniques and stick with it until I see result.
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  • Profile picture of the author peter.max
    I am biased, having run offline businesses for the past 18 years. There are just so many opportunities there and even newbies with limited skills knows more than 99% of small and medium business owners out there. There are a range of services but I would focus on the things that you do in the IM market that you can apply for them. Like SEO, list building and lead generation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Godaxe
    I would definitely start with building a community of like-minded people. Like a lot of marketers coming online for the first time they can get a little lonely for example if you were to try to talk with your family which most nothing about the digital age it would be a short conversation lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Maximillion_Z
    I'd say build a list from the very beginning. I've heard it time and time again that now successful internet marketers wished they'd began building their list years before...

    And the good thing is you can do this for free, it only takes time and patience.
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  • Profile picture of the author Owen Smith
    Product creation 100%. I used to own a hosting company which I sold on when I was around 13 or 14, but it is much more rewarding seeing your product create finance for others.

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  • Profile picture of the author fenix34
    Interesting question. If I would starting from a scratch, I would take my time to invent some useful software, found programmer to develop it and then I would be selling it. And of course I would try to establish affiliate program for it. To try the other side
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  • Profile picture of the author Asyraf Azmi
    thx for sharing yours information,

    btw, how if i`m not ready to create my own product?
    just like being affiliate. i know that`s not easy
    to make money online. maybe i should takes time to choose
    which types is suitable for me. otherwise, i`ll get nothing
    if make any mistake by choosing unprofitble niche.
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    • Profile picture of the author Asyraf Azmi
      Originally Posted by Nickitta View Post

      I totally agree with you. As a newbie it is much easier to become an affiliate first. Creating your own product will be further down the line.

      Good luck
      thx Nick,

      my first profit comes from local affiliate. but it`s different with international affiliate. so, i need to learn from scratch. maybe clickbank is suitable for me. now, i`m looking for anyone might want help me to start.
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  • Profile picture of the author Luke McCormack
    I echo the above statements regarding becoming an affiliate first. But many newbies are scared to build lists. If I had my time again then I would make my home page a squeezepage and capture email addresses, It is so much easier to sell to loyal subscribers than create affiliate reviews sites that are a dime a dozen!

    Best regards

    Nigel
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  • Profile picture of the author mld_publishing
    I have had the most success with creating/selling info products. When you have your own product line (as opposed to promoting the products of others), you find that you have money coming in from systems you set in place sometimes years before. It's a bit more work in the beginning putting systems into place, creating the products, etc....but if you have drive and focus, it is well worth it in the long run.
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  • Profile picture of the author jazbo
    The one I am now channelling my main efforts into. I much prefer helping people than churning out crap to get sales. However, I suppose I could not advise unless I had done it all before.

    Whatever it is, I would choose to make it something I enjoy, but unless you do it all its tough to know what that is sometimes.
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  • Profile picture of the author freedumb
    Pick a profitable niche
    Find out what this niche needs and wants
    Give away free quality information that will help them with their needs and wants
    Build your list
    Promote affiliate products within your quality free content
    After some time, develop your own product(s)
    Launch them to your list
    Optimize your sales process
    Get jv partners and affiliates to promote your products
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Deegan
    Personally I would have studied more about real business fundamentals and strategy right out the gate. Then I'd make sure I had some grounding in solid project management knowledge. (Agile or any lean style project management methodology) I'd also make sure I knew my strengths and weaknesses and planned to create a business that is going to work with me not against me.

    Then as for an actual business model, I'd look to modeling a proven model that vibes with what I am naturally good at. This is not the same as having knowledge in a particular area. This is more along the lines of working with my personality. For example, am I a systems and research type guy or am I good at creating things or leveraging what other people create, etc.

    For me that would be some form of product creation (physical or digital). Or perhaps software or web based services. Personally I spent way to much time focused on being an affiliate and "creating websites" when in reality that was working against my own nature.

    I'd also read more biographies of successful people to learn and model from.
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by Daniel Deegan View Post

      Personally I spent way to much time focused on being an affiliate and "creating websites" when in reality that was working against my own nature.
      Oh, boy, do I know that feeling. I started my serious IM research at an affiliate marketing forum, and I'm just incredibly glad Joseph Ratliff pointed me over here before I got started trying to build all that affiliate stuff. It was SO not me.
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      • Profile picture of the author Daniel Deegan
        Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

        Oh, boy, do I know that feeling. I started my serious IM research at an affiliate marketing forum, and I'm just incredibly glad Joseph Ratliff pointed me over here before I got started trying to build all that affiliate stuff. It was SO not me.
        I think thats something that happens to a lot of us when we first look into starting some type of online business. Our natural inclination is to go with what sounds like an easy method or what seems like the path of least resistance. But in reality for many people it's easier to do things "the hard way" right from the start because it's more in line with who they are as a person.

        It reminds me of something I think Joe Polish said, it was something along the lines of...

        "Life can be hard when you do things the easy way and life can be easy if you do things the hard way"
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    • Profile picture of the author freedumb
      Originally Posted by Daniel Deegan View Post

      Personally I would have studied more about real business fundamentals and strategy right out the gate. Then I'd make sure I had some grounding in solid project management knowledge. (Agile or any lean style project management methodology) I'd also make sure I knew my strengths and weaknesses and planned to create a business that is going to work with me not against me.

      Then as for an actual business model, I'd look to modeling a proven model that vibes with what I am naturally good at. This is not the same as having knowledge in a particular area. This is more along the lines of working with my personality. For example, am I a systems and research type guy or am I good at creating things or leveraging what other people create, etc.

      For me that would be some form of product creation (physical or digital). Or perhaps software or web based services. Personally I spent way to much time focused on being an affiliate and "creating websites" when in reality that was working against my own nature.

      I'd also read more biographies of successful people to learn and model from.
      This is great advice - looking at the long term of your business and your strategy first so that your effort is the most efficient from the get go. Well said.
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      • Profile picture of the author Oxbloom
        The main thing I would do would be to set aside my panic mindset -- you know the one...the one that says, "I can't be bothered to deal with long term fundamentals like list building, when I need money NOW, NOW, NOW!!!"

        Instead, I would start right off selling a service part time, to keep the bills paid and ward off the panic.

        And then I'd spend the rest of my time listbuilding right from the get go. I'd primarily use a strategy like warrior Geoff Shaw outlines in his Bumblogging course, because it can be done pretty much for free, using free Blogger blogs and one of the autoresponder services that lets you build your first X contacts before they start charging.
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  • Profile picture of the author Amy Wu
    My suggestion to you is fairly simple.

    - Build 100 WP sites.
    - Find 100 hot categories from Amazon.
    - Each Category sells an average $100 above a piece
    - Sign up with Amazon as an affiliate
    - Use autopilot plugin to display products from each category to each of your site.
    - Setting up proper WP plugins for your sites to have all of your sites being indexed by google.

    two months later, you have have an average of $300/day income to your pocket.

    ROI is manageable indeed.

    I hope this will help!

    Amy
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      I will definitely start something of my interest like transcribing, proofreading etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author Greatful
      Hi Amy,

      I am new to the board and very interested in learning how to do IM. I have just a few questions.

      Besides the cost of the book how much money will I need to spend to make 300.00 a day? How much will I have to spend to make any money? I do not have money to risk right now.

      Thank you in advance for answering my questions.
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  • Profile picture of the author mark587905
    Get into Mobile marketing, it is going to be massive.
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    • Profile picture of the author Amy Wu
      Originally Posted by mark587905 View Post

      Get into Mobile marketing, it is going to be massive.
      Yes, I agree with you on this. In the last 6 months I have been working on this Mobile Marketing area and the return is fantastic.

      I believe the Mobile is going to be huge and profitable....
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  • Profile picture of the author ydsimple
    I think that is only a suggestion, but I would personaly reccomend building a blog and optimizing it for SEO.

    This is one of the best "make fast easy money online" ways (sorry for that I have to say that for my blog to rank well ;-) )

    Well anyway here is how I do:

    - get keyword that has less than 20,000 competing pages in google and more than 3,000 searches per month in Google as well.

    Then you should turn your blog around that keyword and if you want to rank as number one for it than you should post only original content on your blog.

    Of course social submissions and building backlinks will improve your SEO but unique content is the first thing you must take care of.

    See ya ;-)
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    • Profile picture of the author BarryOnline
      Originally Posted by ydsimple View Post

      I think that is only a suggestion, but I would personaly reccomend building a blog and optimizing it for SEO.

      This is one of the best "make fast easy money online" ways (sorry for that I have to say that for my blog to rank well ;-) )

      Well anyway here is how I do:

      - get keyword that has less than 20,000 competing pages in google and more than 3,000 searches per month in Google as well.

      Then you should turn your blog around that keyword and if you want to rank as number one for it than you should post only original content on your blog.

      Of course social submissions and building backlinks will improve your SEO but unique content is the first thing you must take care of.

      See ya ;-)
      A lot of people seem to think if a keyword searched with “quotes” in Google has under a certain amount of competing pages then it's a good keyword to go after.

      This is not the way to find out the competition level for a keyword.

      I doesn't matter if a keyword has 100,000 competing pages, what matters is the strength of the competition on the fist page.

      You need to look at the results on the first page of Google & check the competing sites for.

      Page rank
      Domain age
      Back links
      Keyword in domain name
      Keyword in page title

      Look at the sites to see how well optimized they are for your target keyword. If there are at least a few site lacking in the SEO points above then you've a good chance of ranking well.

      However if most of the sites on the first page are highly optimized for your target keyword, you're going to have a hard ( if not impossible ) job of ranking well.

      So look at the competition in detail & not just the number of competing pages.

      To the OP, sorry I can't give advice on your best starting option as I'm quite new too.

      After a lot of time learning I'm now starting with building sites to promote Amazon products & I'm also going to create my own products & build an email list. - but one step at a time.

      One peace of advice I can give is to pick ONE method & stick to it until you see results, then move onto something else. It's too easy to bounce all over the place looking for the best money making method.

      As already mentioned, find something that's proven to work & something that takes advantage of your strong points.

      You've started off in the right place & went about it the right way
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  • Profile picture of the author Blade Runner 77
    Good question, one of the most valuable insights we get here, thanks for all the replies, I read em too BR 88
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  • Profile picture of the author Asyraf Azmi
    thx guys... many ideas come out and i get the point. i`m already take note about what should i go. it might be something special for me. but, why some of the ppl thinks that if they starting to make money today, they will have it tomorrow for $10, $100, $ 100k or a million bucks. it`s all about time. Am i right?
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    • Profile picture of the author BarryOnline
      Originally Posted by Asyraf Azmi View Post

      thx guys... many ideas come out and i get the point. i`m already take note about what should i go. it might be something special for me. but, why some of the ppl thinks that if they starting to make money today, they will have it tomorrow for $10, $100, $ 100k or a million bucks. it`s all about time. Am i right?
      Education, time, focus, & work will get you there.

      I'm not there yet myself but I know this is what it takes for sure.

      There's no magic button unfortunately.
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      • Profile picture of the author Matthew Olson
        I would do what I did in the beginning: Start a focused article marketing
        campaign.

        This is what I did as a newbie and I was able to get into profit my first week
        and full time shortly thereafter.

        Yes, this is not exactly a "shiny new" method. But it still works. However,
        like any method there is definitely a right way and a VERY WRONG way
        to do it.

        What I've found works best is to focus exclusively on "buyer type"
        keywords. Even if these keywords only get around 300 searches per month
        it's still worth it because conversions will be very high. Plus, many of these
        buyer type keywords can be ridiculously easy to rank for.

        Article marketing has changed considerably since I was a newbie, but many
        of the fundamentals still apply. It is FAR from being a dead method and
        there is plenty of money you can make with it (fairly quickly too if you
        know what you're doing). Top ranking articles that are focused on buyer
        type keywords will continue to bring you profits for months (and in some
        cases years).

        You can take the money you make with article marketing and apply it
        towards more advanced paid methods. Plus the fundamental skills you
        learn from article marketing will cross over and apply to nearly all other
        IM methods you learn.

        To your success,
        Matt
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        • Profile picture of the author jan roos
          I would look on this forum to see whats in demand then go and create the product myself or pay an expert to create it and then launch it right here in the WSO section of the forum.

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        • Profile picture of the author freedumb
          Originally Posted by Matthew Olson View Post

          I would do what I did in the beginning: Start a focused article marketing
          campaign.

          This is what I did as a newbie and I was able to get into profit my first week
          and full time shortly thereafter.

          Yes, this is not exactly a "shiny new" method. But it still works. However,
          like any method there is definitely a right way and a VERY WRONG way
          to do it.

          What I've found works best is to focus exclusively on "buyer type"
          keywords. Even if these keywords only get around 300 searches per month
          it's still worth it because conversions will be very high. Plus, many of these
          buyer type keywords can be ridiculously easy to rank for.

          Article marketing has changed considerably since I was a newbie, but many
          of the fundamentals still apply. It is FAR from being a dead method and
          there is plenty of money you can make with it (fairly quickly too if you
          know what you're doing). Top ranking articles that are focused on buyer
          type keywords will continue to bring you profits for months (and in some
          cases years).

          You can take the money you make with article marketing and apply it
          towards more advanced paid methods. Plus the fundamental skills you
          learn from article marketing will cross over and apply to nearly all other
          IM methods you learn.

          To your success,
          Matt
          Solid advice. I make good money doing just this as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author phpnetpro
    Making money online is about time. There are a lot of different things that you can do to get you through the initial period with a new website, for example.

    Personally, once I have a website that gets ranked well in search engines and is found relevant to a particular topic, it seems to go much faster from that point. Over the years, I guess the main thing I've gotten better at is getting to this point much faster with a new site.
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  • Profile picture of the author soulboy01
    just wanted to thank everybody here for all the great insight and advice. it's really nice to be able to come across a forum of like-minded individuals who are so willing to extend a helping hand or offer insightful suggestions for the newbs. i too, like the OP has been suffering from information overload as well, and am also struggling with finding my niche. it seems as if all of the things i am sincerely interested in are the least profitable, or the most difficult to monetize.

    one question i'd like to throw out there...

    it seems that the common point of view from most guru's out there on this is to go where the money is at, and not to try to reinvent the wheel by targeting a new or untapped niche. i instinctively want to do the opposite. i can't help but wonder that if that is the predominant point of view, and everybody is indeed going after the profitable niches, at what point does that market get over-saturated by affiliates & marketers?

    for me, when it comes to the stock market and investing, one of my main philosophies has been to do the opposite of what the majority are doing. i guess i've always been a non-conformist in some respects...would this be an inappropriate philosophy to apply to the IM world as well? your thoughts on this would be appreciated, thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author Oxbloom
      Originally Posted by soulboy01 View Post


      one question i'd like to throw out there...

      it seems that the common point of view from most guru's out there on this is to go where the money is at, and not to try to reinvent the wheel by targeting a new or untapped niche. i instinctively want to do the opposite. i can't help but wonder that if that is the predominant point of view, and everybody is indeed going after the profitable niches, at what point does that market get over-saturated by affiliates & marketers?
      A market is over-saturated when there is no way for new participants to position themselves so that potential customers will find them, and desire their services.

      If there are still keywords to dominate...or sub-niches to enter with less competition...or new sub-niches to race to ahead of the crowd...or price points that aren't being exploited yet...or hungry crowds coming from tangential markets who aren't being fully considered yet...or anything else similar...then the market is not yet over-saturated.

      Look in the real world. People are still opening pizza shops, and car lots, and cafes, and pubs, and banks, and insurance agencies, etc., etc., etc...and are doing so successfully. And that's decades, if not centuries after the first ones sprang up. If the market can continue to support these things after eons, why should the IM field be saturated after a scant few years? It's a constantly evolving field, with a trillion points of entry. It won't be saturating any time soon.

      ...for me, when it comes to the stock market and investing, one of my main philosophies has been to do the opposite of what the majority are doing. i guess i've always been a non-conformist in some respects...would this be an inappropriate philosophy to apply to the IM world as well? your thoughts on this would be appreciated, thanks!
      It's not necessarily "inappropriate." It just needs some fleshing out. When you say non-conformist IM, what exactly does that mean? How do you apply it? Understand that if you're NOT re-inventing the wheel, you have a tougher road to travel in terms of convincing people your solutions work. Where case studies don't exist, social proof doesn't exist. And where social proof doesn't exist, you've got more work to do in terms of proving to your prospect that what you're selling can benefit him in some way.

      Doesn't mean it can't be done. Just that it may take some work, some planning, and some time.

      GL
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  • Profile picture of the author fuzzynono
    I think I would start creating sites that promoted cost per action affiliate programs right away. Basically creating niche sites and using SEO to sell stuff. I would forget about Adsense myself.
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  • Profile picture of the author ivanadee
    Fiverr
    It's cool to collect money to be invested
    but if you have money already
    selling PLR is great as your first step
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  • Profile picture of the author seoweb2000
    Study copy writing before doing anything. You can write for others, use it to sell your own products, and work more effectively with when u hire writers.
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  • Hello Asyraf,

    I consider myself fairly new to IM as well. Right now, I am as well trying to find exactly what I'd like to do in IM and would like to make it a full time gig.

    I have dabbled in a few different areas. One area was Niche website building that linked to affiliate products on both amazon and ebay products, I did not make very much money if any, however I did have money coming in and I saw long term potential for success. The bottom line is that I just didn't put enough time and effort into it because I was only make few dollars here, and a few dollars there.

    I did learn a ton about how and what people searched for on the web, the different ways to generate leads, both paid and free, and what type of response to expect from my efforts.

    In the end, I lost momentum and got side tracked because I was looking for an easier stream of money as it was a lot of work to do the research, build the sites, analyze the data, and tweak the system to make any tangible return on my investment of time and effort.

    This experience has taught me that regardless of what system I choose to make money doing IM, I need to put all my effort into gaining as much knowledge as I can, then take action, test, tweak, test, and tweak some more, and I know that in the long run, I'll be successful at whatever I choose to pursue.

    I think you'll be successful in whatever you choose to do because you seem very driven, eager to learn, and communicate well with the community.

    I want to thank you for creating this thread, as I am learning a lot about what I really want to do and what options are available to me based off all of the great feedback that has been posted here.

    Best,

    Steven
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    • Profile picture of the author Asyraf Azmi
      Originally Posted by BlueSkyPublishingGroup View Post


      I want to thank you for creating this thread, as I am learning a lot about what I really want to do and what options are available to me based off all of the great feedback that has been posted here.

      Best,

      Steven
      thx steven,

      it`s good to see my 1st thread comes out with many feedback from others and they likes to share. it`s great to read what they are posted. i hope this thread is valuable to all newcomers who are still struggling about Make Money Online. i`m very impressed with their ideas. just take note what`s better for us and take action to do something we like.

      all the best,

      Asyraf
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  • Profile picture of the author brendawyles
    I would go for an internet network marketing business / affiliate programs...
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    • Profile picture of the author Asyraf Azmi
      Originally Posted by brendawyles View Post

      I would go for an internet network marketing business / affiliate programs...
      why? can u give the reason?
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      • Profile picture of the author aj1
        The Website Flopping idea is very interesting. Does anyone have firsthand knowledge of this system with actual success stories?
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  • Profile picture of the author biggame5
    What do you like and is it something that is popular? Then see if you can do something different with the idea without reinventing the wheel all the way. It works in music all the time. What do you think remixes are? Stay positive because whatever you choose it going to take time unless you already have a list of people that will follow you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Slade556
    If I was a newbie again I would immediately work on creating my own products so that I had my OWN business that I controlled. I waited far too long to do that. While I was list building (which I also waited too long to do) I would set up affiliate websites to make some 'seed money' to fund my own projects. So product creation, list building and affiliate marketing...in that order.

    I spent far too long building OTHER people's businesses instead of having something of my own. I think of all the time I wasted when I first started and cringe.
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  • Profile picture of the author MatthewNeer
    Ya know what bro, I would honestly get into the "Make Money Online" niche and the "Internet Marketing" niche because even though they are both extremely competitive, they are competitive because there are a frenzy of buyers.

    Plus, when you talk about making money online, I believe it educates you faster on how the whole business model works. And understanding that is key to making sales. Once you grasp how it all works, then you can expand into other niche markets.

    Rock on and best of luck,
    Matthew Neer
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