How To Fake an Income Screenshot in Under 5 Mins

12 years ago

Its like a like of marketers they show their clickbank earnings from the product they are actually selling to the customer. Sickening, I know I noticed that on one for George Browns sites, that it was blurred out and really said something like Gsniper on the Traffic ultimatum sales page. It may have been changed now.

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kindsvater

12 years ago

There is a super easy way to fake ClickBank income pictures (which I won't post). Could be why many claiming to make thousands using their "system" shows ClickBank stats. One would think ClickBank was the only way to make money given all the ClickBank "earnings proofs" being used.

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Dennis Gaskill

12 years ago

Originally Posted by kindsvater

There is a super easy way to fake ClickBank income pictures (which I won't post). Could be why many claiming to make thousands using their "system" shows ClickBank stats. One would think ClickBank was the only way to make money given all the ClickBank "earnings proofs" being used.

If you're talking about what I think you are talking about, that works for Paypal and probably every other payment processor too.

In fact, there are multiple ways to fake static screen shots; and videos can be easily faked too.

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Bill Farnham 12 years ago

Slightly off-topic, but soon Photoshop may have a plug-in for this very thing if enough of us get together and demand the ability to have one-click sproofs.

Here's a video of their newest app for those of you who love photobombs...

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kindsvater

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

If you're talking about what I think you are talking about, that works for Paypal and probably every other payment processor too.

In fact, there are multiple ways to fake static screen shots; and videos can be easily faked too.

Yep. Even works in Yahoo fantasy football. I'm just waiting for the right opportunity to have some fun with my league.

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Rikki_Fawkes 12 years ago

I want to pose a thought here that might get shot down, but it's something I couldn't help thinking as I was reading these posts.

It's very true that screenshots can be faked, no doubt about it. But isn't establishing yourself as a reputable seller a big part of internet marketing success?

What I mean is, if you have established your online entity as a reputable one, and buyers can see that manifested in other places, either through testimonials (which also can be faked), videos, recommendations, awards, etc., wouldn't you be safe in posting a screenshot? After all, if you've proven your reputation and your buyers trust you for everything else, wouldn't they be more likely to believe your screenshot?

I realize this doesn't apply to everyone, especially those who are just starting out and to new buyers who don't know any differently. But it's just a thought.
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AFI

12 years ago

I never thought of this way of faking, I've always thought it was just Photoshop manipulation (which is just as easy if you are a designer).

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Karen Blundell

12 years ago

I hate those screenshots. Not only are they more than likely fake, but to me it's always felt like the marketers are bragging.

In my humble opinion, it's no one's business what you make and if you can't sell a product without a screenshot, fake or not, then maybe you shouldn't be in the "make money" niche at all, or you need to re-evaluate your sales copy.

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Black Hat Cat

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Karen Blundell

I hate those screenshots. Not only are they more than likely fake, but to me it's always felt like the marketers are bragging.

In my humble opinion, it's no one's business what you make and if you can't sell a product without a screenshot, fake or not, then maybe you shouldn't be in the "make money" niche at all, or you need to re-evaluate your sales copy.

So, if I'm teaching you how to build a house, it's bragging to show you a house I built using the methods I am selling you that teach you how to build a similar house?

By the way folks, you know what's even easier to fake than screen shots? Copy. Therefore, following the same logic, we should also just assume all sales letters are fake too, and probably the product as well.

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Karen Blundell

12 years ago

It's not the same, in my opinion. I just find disclosing your income to total strangers, distasteful and crass. It's just my opinion. No need to go on the defensive here, Black Hat Cat.

Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat

So, if I'm teaching you how to build a house, it's bragging to show you a house I built using the methods I am selling you that teach you how to build a similar house?

By the way folks, you know what's even easier to fake than screen shots? Copy. Therefore, following the same logic, we should also just assume all sales letters are fake too, and probably the product as well.

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George Chernikov

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat

By the way folks, you know what's even easier to fake than screen shots? Copy. Therefore, following the same logic, we should also just assume all sales letters are fake too, and probably the product as well.

Yup, just read the titles in the WSO section - one should be able to make $100,000 in a day (on autopilot! With zero investment! And no skills! And quadruple your money back!) just with any ten posts or so...

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3Infidels

12 years ago

I'll never trust another earning screenshot again.

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mld_publishing

12 years ago

I am happy that you posted this for the newbies who don't know any better. I've had a few copywriters offer to put earnings screenshots on my pages before. They automatically get disqualified for the copywriting job.

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GoogleWarrior

12 years ago

That Article is GREAT! And let's be realistic - most Internet Marketers use tactics like this!
In fact... if you are not using these kind of tactics... you probably arent making any money, are you?

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secrets2010 12 years ago

I think that faking an income screenshot and make big claims (that are not true) about how much you make can really get you in some big trouble...if the FTC finds out about it...
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HarveyDanger

12 years ago

Thanks for sharing this, it just proves how manipulative some people are. If someone is making really good money from a method that is seldom used or known about in the IM world, why would they want to share this method with others? It will just bog down their niche, and most likely cost them money in the long run. Don't get me wrong there are a few IMers who have released quality methods, but most are just releasing crap to the public just hoping to make an extra few bucks.

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sparckyz

12 years ago

I never trusted those screenies anyways (DP is flooded with them)

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jazbo

12 years ago

I cant believe anyone takes any notice of earnings screenshots.....do they? really?

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Godaxe

12 years ago

This is one of the reasons why absolutely hate showing screenshots of proof of income. It makes me want to say hey you either believe me or you don't but I always saw myself obliging when somebody asks.

The thing is basically everybody knows that this or that can be faked but everybody wants a little bit more reinsurance.

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Gary King

12 years ago

Nice share...

Good write up by Brad too (Bravo Brad!)

Seriously folks, step back an look at it with a little sanity. As demonstrated, it's easy to fake stuff like this, so keep your head on straight when you're reading those sales letters. ;-)

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JackTriggs

12 years ago

I always knew that screenshots could be faked but was unsure about certain video proofs...then I read this

Internet Business - Truth About Scams and How Easy It Is To Create Fake Proofs

will never trust a video again

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Clear Seven

12 years ago

Thank you for the information Chris, rightly so I agree with mld Publishing (Sorry I dont know your name) its the newbies who get caught out looking for there first get rich quick scheme.

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freedumb

12 years ago

I think the earnings claims are tacky at best, and many of them are fake or the person is showing you their earnings from the product they are selling you, not the method they are teaching you, heh.

However, some earnings screenshots are very real. Their are very real people making very real money in this here IM industry. Just saying...

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iamsuneel

12 years ago

I fell flat on my face several times when I started in IM 3 years ago. After getting distracted by the earnings screenshots, I would imagine my bank account with that kind of cash and buy the app or ebook without any second thought to implement it.

But, many a time I found that the book taught what I already knew from several other free blogs. Many were good enough to offer me a refund when I pointed out the source of the info where I read it first. But, others just didn't reply to the refund mails.

Now, screenshot or no ss, it does not affect my judgment. Read the entire sales page, even if it takes 2-3 hours, analyse what I have read and then decide to buy or not.

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AprilCT 12 years ago

I don't believe the screen shots, those always seemed suspicious to me. They might be very enticing, but then again, so is the lottery and I don't play that either. Perhaps if I'd done an excel sheet showing all the money I've saved over the years by not playing, that would look pretty good too if it was posted.
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Kevin_Hutto

12 years ago

How many threads are there about this? Tons. Yes everything can be faked. But, in most cases it is a clickbank product that is being promoted. If they are scammers, just get your money back.

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phpnetpro

12 years ago

I agree. I consider myself a good-guy marketer. I have a family and I like to sleep at night. Yes, I see a big difference in the amount of money that can be made in the two techniques, but I still refuse to change.

It seems like nearly every top selling product on ClickBank is loaded with the income screenshots. I know that at least some of them are fraudulent. I've seen a course talking about you making money as an affiliate on ClickBank with their system and I could tell from their blurred screenshot video that the income they were showing was from people selling their products!

I can honestly say that I have NEVER purchased an online ebook, money making system, automated traffic tool or any of that sort of stuff - not a single one. It's just not really my style going along with the flow. I'm more of an entrepreneur.

It really is hard to say what a good product is these days without actually having someone you trust tell you that they have seen it with their own eyes.

I was recently selling an ebook that I knew could produce the results I was promising. I promised traffic that someone should be able to convert, but wouldn't make any promises of money. I did make some sales but I just wasn't happy with the results. IMs didn't want to help promote it, etc.

Anyways, I ended up just giving the ebook away for free and think I'm happier with these results! Plus, I hope some people actually do make websites like the one I guide them to make. Even if I'm not making a ton of money with the book, it would be nice knowing that I created a particular trend.

And back to my point - stop pushing this fake crap please!

You guys are killing this business, one fake promise at a time.

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aspiepower

12 years ago

Everything's electronic for me - I receive no cheques. Everything goes directly into my bank account.

Those darned CB cheques I used to wait until I had about $500 or more before adjusting the payout threshold so I'd get a cheque. By the time it arrived in the UK and I'd paid it into my bank, then had to pay £8 ($12-13 or so) for the privilege of banking it .... not worthwhile.

But now they do it direct, which is great.

Free money ..... automatically. You can't beat it.

I hate banking cheques... especially foreign ones.

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aspiepower

12 years ago

There used to be a website where you just had to type in an amount and it produced you a CB check instantly with that amount written on it. Can't remember where that was now, going back 2-3-4 years it was.

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Trent Brownrigg

12 years ago

Wow! I knew you could fake screenshots but I didn't know it was that easy. I always thought you had to be a techie type of person or at least have some sort of program to do it. Anyone could do what is explained in that post. I will be even more skeptical of them now.

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Hanz 12 years ago

You can also fake testimonials. Simply give out a handful of review copies to your friends and they'll do you a solid just for giving them a free copy. So with the income 'proof' along with the grand 'testimonials', you have a winner.
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Alfred Shelver

12 years ago

Is there any way to give a non fake proof of income? If I ever had to do an IM product I would love to prove myself legitimately is there any way?

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aandersen

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Cathy Shelver

Is there any way to give a non fake proof of income? If I veer had to do an IM product I would love to prove myself legitimately is there any way?

I think the real trick is to put yourself in a position where you don't need to. There are many marketers that refuse to discuss income and they do just fine. When your not making insane claims, throwing too much hype around, or trying to sell a miracle plug-n-play money maker, people are less likely to bother you about proof of income.

That being said, there is no harm in trying to show proof. Of course anything involving a compuer can be faked, but if you present it in a way that is less likely to be fake than it is to be real, people will probably not question you.

if your income proof was realistic, and i saw a video of you opening new browser, typing w w w... in to hte address bar, then logging in and navigating to your stats, i would probbaly not question your legitimacy

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aandersen

12 years ago

oh yeah, faking some stuff can be even easier. just copy and paste this in your web browser and then press ENTER (you can do it righ now) :

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now you can edit any text on the screen. some other stuff, like tables and images, can be resized as well.

of course i am not for this, just saying that it's that easy

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  Alan, PLEASE, remove that code. There are way to many idiots around who will take advantage of this. Aargh!
  
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kenny5

12 years ago

I hate how dishonest people are giving this trade such a bad name. I can't say it surprises me though, it's so easy to be dishonest and scam people.

Hooray for honest internet marketers!!!

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sarahberra

12 years ago

Scary stuff! So is this what those marketers are doing? It's so hard to find a "real" review for a product. It always seems like the reviews are just snippits of what's on the sales page.

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Regional Warrior

12 years ago

I was looking for this to show how its done , funny I only watched this 3 days ago

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

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bestitrix

12 years ago

Wow, that is so wrong. I really have to keep my eyes peel open for these types of scam. I have to agree that some of the videos that accompanied their product have good selling pitch and very convincing.

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cooler1

12 years ago

How about when you see them in a video actually logging into their account then show the earnings. Is that likely legit?

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Chris Munch 12 years ago

Originally Posted by cooler1

How about when you see them in a video actually logging into their account then show the earnings. Is that likely legit?

It can be faked, it is just a bit harder.

They can create a fake login page, they can create a fake version of the page and switch tabs without it being seen, or they can just show you earnings completely irrelevant to what they are selling (the latter probably being the most common).
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LegitIncomes

12 years ago

This is why I don't use income screen shots or videos any longer.

If someone asks for them (seems to always be a newer/low post count member), I explain how easy they can be faked, and that they either believe me, or they don't.

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Caleb Spilchen

12 years ago

I'll say this:

I have a button that I found online, that we use at school to play around with Google, and make Google say random stuff. I call it "my fave link", and it sits on the bookmarks bar. I checked one time, and it looked like I could make easily a video of me logging into PayPal with those changed numbers. And guess how long it would take to screenshot it?

Under a minute.

I think it's flipping easy, and insane that it's so easy. There really is no definite way of saying, that "that's" a legitimate screenshot or video, without sitting behind them watching them go on paypal. I wish we could have more trust!

Caleb

PS. I do not make fake screen shots/video's using that bookmark, and I meerly have it for fun purposes. I am an honest guy, and don't do things like that

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The Copy Nazi

Banned 12 years ago

I made a vid on this about 18 months ago - but using a line of javascript in your browser - you can not only fake PayPal but Clickwank and other programs. Do You Really Believe Those Clickbank Earnings*Screenshots? - Journal - Your Internets

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Mangozoom

12 years ago

YOU'VE RUINED IT FOR ME ... WAS ABOUT TO RUN WITH THIS ON MY SALES PAGE

It's real .. honest

John

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RogerDodger

12 years ago

Well that was eye opening holly crap!

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timer

12 years ago

I always wondered why blokes making so much money could be bothered with all the messing about involved in producing courses. It seemed against basic human nature. IF or when I stumble upon THE SECRET FORMULA OF INTERNET SUCCESS I'll keep it to myself, make millions and be laughing all the way to the bank.

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kbs

12 years ago

OOps, I just posted a thread about this exact same thing. Oh well repetition just means it's important.

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