235+ websites making $4-$50 per day. This is how I do it. Ultimate Virtual Real Estate. ADDED LINKS

by LMC
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It's been quite some time since I made a post.

So here it goes:

I currently have 235+ websites that are making anywheres from $4 to $50 per day, I have about 10 that do $50 a day, and the rest fluctuate.

Some of them do a lot better during trends, for example, I built 80 websites targetting specific individual costumes for halloween, and they have been doing $10+ per day alone.

I target low to mid competition keywords, find or buy exact match keywords (as they do make a difference despite what you've been told). When i say exact match, I mean, Your keyword = www.yourkeyword.com

No stop words, no the, e, blog, online, NO prefixes or suffixes.

All my websites are ranked #1 through #5 for all their target keywords. 80% of my traffic comes from the Big G, 10% of my traffic comes from Direct Traffic, meaning people who have bookmarked the sites, or people just inputting my website into the address bar. The remaining 10% comes from directories, forums, and article marketing ( I barely do any article marketing).

So what are the characterisitcs of my websites:
  • They all target a specific product, usually ONE or TWO, sometimes I will expand to 20 - 50. I have a handful of websites that are 200 products deep as well. But I try to be as specific as possible.
  • They all target tangiable goods. I DO NOT sell digital items, because I find that I'm receiving around 25-35% conversions on my tangiable compared to my low 8% on digital products. There are less refunds, and to the consumer I seem more respectable as a merchant portal.
  • They contain 1 - 3 unique articles on them. Each article targets a different physchological factor behind buying a product. I first tell them who the customer of my product is, so in the case that I'm not identifying them, they get defensive and buy, and in the case I am identifying them, they understand they are a good customer for this product thus, they buy. I attack the social and economical factors of the product, I justify the merchants price, and tell them how it is being used in a social setting. (are celebrities wearing this coat, will this grill make for better barbeques, etc, etc)
  • They are all built in Wordpress.
My only goal with my websites is to be #1 in Google. That is it. I give nothing about having web 2.0 feeders:

No Twitter
No Hubpages
No Squidoo
No EzineArticles

Just Google. It is amazing on how much traffic you will receive in the first position of Google.

Currently my Virtual Real Estate receives roughly around 23,000 uniques per day broken across all my websites.

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How do I build it all?
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I outsource every stupid little thing.

All I care about is the niche, and how much money I am making.

I outsource writing
I outsource development
I outsource backlinking

I simply worry about producing sales and watching the analytics to decide when to build more content and or target more keywords.

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VRE's as a business model is really great. It produces passive income, however there is a management side to things just like all business's. This is where people will succeed or fail.

Understanding what your analytics are telling you.
Understanding your top 10 competition and how to beat it.
Understanding Opportunitties in the SERPs.

Just like any business, there are pros and cons. Here the cons are, I pay a lot of money in registration fees, but I am profitting. I have to spend 4 hours each day looking at my analytics and current market positions. I spend about 2 hours a day researching new markets.

Obviously I don't have to do it each and everyday, but if I'm not getting a sale I WANT TO KNOW WHY. So I study it.

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So I don't want to make this long winded, but ask your questions and i will respond when I can.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin_Hutto
    Great post... I have several buddies doing well with this exact same method.
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    • Profile picture of the author FrFai
      Hi Kevin

      Can you show me how to do this please? I will appreciate it.

      Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    John,

    oh boy... I've been doing internet marketing for about 7 years now, these websites all started about 3 years ago.

    When i began, I did not outsource a thing.

    I built the website in wordpress.
    Optimized the content.
    Reverse Engineered Competition Backlinks and targetted the same and researched similar.

    But if I went back in history, I would outsource everything and risk $50-$100 to get a site to #1, cause in reality that is all it takes.

    I rather take $10k and invest it into 100 websites, to be put into a #1 position to produce $1k a day from.
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    • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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      Originally Posted by LMC View Post

      But if I went back in history, I would outsource everything and risk $50-$100 to get a site to #1, cause in reality that is all it takes.
      Care to elaborate on this point a bit?
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by LMC View Post

      John,

      oh boy... I've been doing internet marketing for about 7 years now, these websites all started about 3 years ago.

      When i began, I did not outsource a thing.

      I built the website in wordpress.
      Optimized the content.
      Reverse Engineered Competition Backlinks and targetted the same and researched similar.

      But if I went back in history, I would outsource everything and risk $50-$100 to get a site to #1, cause in reality that is all it takes.

      I rather take $10k and invest it into 100 websites, to be put into a #1 position to produce $1k a day from.
      This is a great business model. Rather than putting all your eggs in one basket, by diversifying and generating income from so many different sites you're in a MUCH better position to receive consistent income every single month.

      How do you host your sites, i.e. do you use dedicated or shared servers, and do you spread them out across several hosting companies using shared/dedicated hosting?

      Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    Thanks for the great post - i am doing this myself but I dont have as many sites and it does work.

    Also, the other great thing is that each site can then be sold off if you want immediate income or if you want to concentrate on the big earners.

    Lee
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary King
    Congrats on your success..

    I'm presuming since you said tangible goods, you mean stuff like Amazon affiliate, etc.?

    Thanks,

    Gary

    EDIT: John (one post up) asked the same question as I was typing!
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    Hey john,

    I mainly work with Commission Junction and Linkshare.

    The problem with Amazon is that it doesn't allow me for a unique selling proposition, as I can't give away coupons and discounts like I can do in CJ.

    I also work with inhouse advertising companies that have 50 or so affiliate programs. I can get custom coupons and banners with them.

    Amazon is good for the impulse buyer, but in my test, it was not worth it.

    I usually use it to produce income when I compare products, so I compare my products which are normally cheaper to amazon. However, I embedd my affiliate link into amazon in case I get a stubborn buyer that just wants to use a more reputable merchant. Doesn't matter to me because i still get the commission.
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  • Profile picture of the author FrFai
    Hi

    Thanks for the post it's really interesting and by the way congratulations on your success. Can u show me to do the same?

    I will really appreciate it.

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author rghflash
    Good gracious alive LMC. I understood most of what you saiid, but not all. What a powerfull message. I simply don't know how you do it and keep track of everything with that many sites? Posts like this encourage me to keep at and gleem what I can from internet marketing gurus like you. Thanks a heap, Robert
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    • Profile picture of the author jasonblake10
      Originally Posted by rghflash View Post

      Good gracious alive LMC. I understood most of what you saiid, but not all. What a powerfull message. I simply don't know how you do it and keep track of everything with that many sites? Posts like this encourage me to keep at and gleem what I can from internet marketing gurus like you. Thanks a heap, Robert
      I wonder the same think! That's a lot of sites!
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  • Profile picture of the author madison_avenue
    Thank you for a great post LMC.

    I think what puts people off going after minuscule niches is the cost of a domain name to justify such a small niche. If the site doesn't work out you lose the cost of the domain name.

    Are you using .com domains have you tried it with .net or ,info domains? Are you using brand names in your domains? If so have you had any hassles?

    Sorry for the ton of questions but your advice is much appreciated!
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  • Profile picture of the author tehnolife
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    This is realy a good business model to follow.Also...do you want to hit a goal...like 1000 websites? And How much you earn per month, clear profit?(over 30,000$ ?)


    Thanks,
    Stefan Ion
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    • Profile picture of the author JayVance
      Originally Posted by tehnolife View Post

      This is realy a good business model to follow.Also...do you want to hit a goal...like 1000 websites? And How much you earn per month, clear profit?(over 30,000$ ?)


      Thanks,
      Stefan Ion
      Just by doing the math 10 sites @ $50 per month = $15,000.
      The other 225 doing just the minimum of $4 per month = 27,000
      Total Revenue = $42,000 per month or $504,000 per year.
      I'm sure those numbers are actually higher since I used the minimum number of $4.

      Great strategy btw, very interesting concept that I'll have to look into.

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  • Profile picture of the author LeeLee
    I would love to see what you do but don't have PM capability. If you wouldn't mind shooting an email over the bridge to Jersey, I'd be so grateful.

    Thanks

    eorangeave at gmail dot com
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    tehno,

    I'm not going to post how much I earn. I have this VRE, then other investments and web 2.0 sites. Just do some math, it's all organic traffic, I spend around $50-$100 per site to get it to where it needs to be... The Top.

    Madison,

    A domain expense is about $10 a year. These sites are making that a day. If you can't make at least $10 to justify the domain cost you are just in such a sub niche that there is no traffic for it.

    Only .com, .net, .org

    No hyphens, no stop words.
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    • Profile picture of the author BayAreaSteve
      Originally Posted by LMC View Post

      tehno,

      I'm not going to post how much I earn. I have this VRE, then other investments and web 2.0 sites. Just do some math, it's all organic traffic, I spend around $50-$100 per site to get it to where it needs to be... The Top.

      Madison,

      A domain expense is about $10 a year. These sites are making that a day. If you can't make at least $10 to justify the domain cost you are just in such a sub niche that there is no traffic for it.

      Only .com, .net, .org

      No hyphens, no stop words.
      What is a " stop " word?
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin_Hutto
        Originally Posted by BayAreaSteve View Post

        What is a " stop " word?
        A stop word is a word that google ignores in a search phrase. Words like "the", "a", etc...
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    Black Hat,

    sure...

    $25-$50 for my website setup.
    $15-$25 for my content.
    $15-$50 for my backlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Christian Sawyer
      Good post, I'm putting together a plan to do something similar to this soon. Having a lot of websites that only make a buck is still great.

      -Christian
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      • Profile picture of the author Gav567
        Great Post! Could you explain what backlinking strategy you are using?

        Thanks,

        Gav.
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    • Profile picture of the author ddlingo
      Originally Posted by LMC View Post

      Black Hat,

      sure...

      $25-$50 for my website setup.
      $15-$25 for my content.
      $15-$50 for my backlinks.
      Do you mind sharing your backlink service?
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    • Profile picture of the author Hoodyy
      Originally Posted by LMC View Post

      Black Hat,

      sure...

      $25-$50 for my website setup.
      $15-$25 for my content.
      $15-$50 for my backlinks.
      I'm just trying to understand exactly how much you're outsourcing.

      $25-$50 for your website setup.
      What exactly does this include? I assume you're using hosting similar to that of HostGator's reseller package.. Are you paying a freelancer to install Wordpress and a customized Wordpress theme?

      $15-$25 for your content.
      Here are you paying for X articles / reviews on the products and supplying the person doing the work for you with affiliate links etc?

      $15-$20 for your backlinks.
      What exactly does this involve? How are you backlinking? Are you paying someone to just submit articles into directories?

      I'm also curious as to where you're outsourcing this work, it seems quite cheap to me - and if you're getting quality workers to complete this work then very, very useful - I can definitely see why you're so successful.

      It would be great to know in detail your outsourcing program and to have more of an idea of what exactly it is you're asking the workers you've hired to do. I assume once you find a good worker it's easy.

      Your model appeals to me very much. I'd much rather spend all day looking over analytics etc than writing my own content.
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      • Profile picture of the author mathmo
        First of all if you go back Hoody you will see more or less all of your questions have been answered

        [at least to the extent they're likely to be answered]

        What is more, answered very early on in the first few pages...

        So to help LMC I'll reply with what I've just read [I'll note however I'm only up to page 7 as I just started reading this afternoon while busy with other stuff]

        Originally Posted by Hoodyy View Post

        I'm just trying to understand exactly how much you're outsourcing.

        $25-$50 for your website setup.
        What exactly does this include? I assume you're using hosting similar to that of HostGator's reseller package.. Are you paying a freelancer to install Wordpress and a customized Wordpress theme?
        I'm assuming he uses SEO Hosting - SEO Web Hosting with cPanel and Multiple Class C IP Addresses ?? As he kinda implied that when he replied to one of the earlier questions with that link as the answer.
        [they are owned by hostgator btw]

        However he said he has also has dedicated servers as well as shared hosting.

        Originally Posted by Hoodyy View Post

        $15-$25 for your content.
        Here are you paying for X articles / reviews on the products and supplying the person doing the work for you with affiliate links etc?
        Still a bit of the mystery for me. But I assume he has a very detailed set of generic and specific instructions that he hands to them.

        However, before getting into outsourcing I STRONGLY recommend doing [and others have recommended this too] it yourself on a small scale with a handful of sites.

        THEN once you have got it sorted you can massively scale up via outsourcing.

        Better to do it slowly right, than very fast wrong.

        In this situation when it is composed of many little tiny pieces you should only once you know you're doing it right then try to speed up the process via outsourcing.

        Originally Posted by Hoodyy View Post

        $15-$20 for your backlinks.
        What exactly does this involve? How are you backlinking? Are you paying someone to just submit articles into directories?
        He has already said this is his gold and he won't give out the exact details [rightly so too].

        However... he has already mentioned a few details which you might be able to follow along to arrive at the "answer":

        >Hey...

        >Could you tell us more about your backlinking strategy?

        Backlinks are the #2 thing Google looks at, and is one of the most
        important factors to being ranked.

        I can't tell you my backlink sources. However I will tell you this:
        The best backlink is a direct backlink from a website, not a profile,
        book mark, etc.
        I build as many as I need to beat my competition. I look at how many
        they have individually and then how many they have all together, and
        produce about that number to start
        In more competitive niches I produce more backlinks gradually after
        the initial flux.
        Here is the most important thing
        The absolute best backlink for me has been getting into someones
        website's sidebar or footer. A direct (do-follow) link straight to my
        site with my anchor text.
        Think why?

        If you are on a blogs sidebar that has 200 posts, each individual
        single post STILL has that sidebar link on it. It's not just 1
        backlink, but it is now 200.
        I pay $.80-$1.50 per link that is permanent and do follow.
        If I buy 30 of them I will get between 300-500 backlinks due to the
        above sidebar factor.
        George, Google wants natural backlinking. They want site owners and
        the consumers to naturally talk about your websites, this is what
        backlinking was meant to be... an indication of popularity.

        Popularity contests are always biased.

        The key thing is to not buy links from link vendors as Google knows
        these vendors exist and are tracking where they are selling.

        I buy links from site owners. Not from exchanges, not from brokers,
        not from professionals.
        There is a LOT of info there... even if you can't work out exactly how he is doing it, it should at least provide you with an idea or two of your own as to how to go about effectively. It certainly has for me

        Originally Posted by Hoodyy View Post

        I'm also curious as to where you're outsourcing this work, it seems quite cheap to me - and if you're getting quality workers to complete this work then very, very useful - I can definitely see why you're so successful.
        This is just a generic tip here from me personally:
        a) use sites with feedback ratings
        b) give them a small job first to test them out before deciding on BIG jobs with them
        c) be very detailed in your instructions, they can only be as good as you let them be. You give them vague crap instructions, you can expect vague crap back


        Originally Posted by Hoodyy View Post

        Your model appeals to me very much. I'd much rather spend all day looking over analytics etc than writing my own content.
        I'd still recommend starting out doing it yourself.... because as others have also noted it, he succeeds because he has got a grasp of the whole package. This includes the psychology of the sales writing etc.... if you can't do this effectively yourself then how can you expect to outsource it out ultra cheaply to somebody else?
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  • Profile picture of the author tehnolife
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    Do you think it can works, if I make an online shop with products from amazon..CJ...and I get the site number one in google for the main keyword?

    What's your opinion?
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  • Profile picture of the author Web Junkie
    Great post! I do something similar to this with CJ and it works well. Except, I make use of article marketing as well.

    What I like about your post (which I don't focus on completely) is that you say to literally use the keyword without any other stop words. Do you mean to use the keyword for the product or for the type of product? Have you tested the two?

    Example:
    www.lumixlc100.com
    OR
    underwatercamera.com
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  • Just wanted to say congratulations. Definitely a very smart setup.

    Cheers,

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonblake10
    Originally Posted by LMC View Post

    It's been quite some time since I made a post.

    So here it goes:

    I currently have 235+ websites that are making anywheres from $4 to $50 per day, I have about 10 that do $50 a day, and the rest fluctuate.

    Some of them do a lot better during trends, for example, I built 80 websites targetting specific individual costumes for halloween, and they have been doing $10+ per day alone.

    I target low to mid competition keywords, find or buy exact match keywords (as they do make a difference despite what you've been told). When i say exact match, I mean, Your keyword = www.yourkeyword.com

    No stop words, no the, e, blog, online, NO prefixes or suffixes.

    All my websites are ranked #1 through #5 for all their target keywords. 80% of my traffic comes from the Big G, 10% of my traffic comes from Direct Traffic, meaning people who have bookmarked the sites, or people just inputting my website into the address bar. The remaining 10% comes from directories, forums, and article marketing ( I barely do any article marketing).

    So what are the characterisitcs of my websites:
    • They all target a specific product, usually ONE or TWO, sometimes I will expand to 20 - 50. I have a handful of websites that are 200 products deep as well. But I try to be as specific as possible.
    • They all target tangiable goods. I DO NOT sell digital items, because I find that I'm receiving around 25-35% conversions on my tangiable compared to my low 8% on digital products. There are less refunds, and to the consumer I seem more respectable as a merchant portal.
    • They contain 1 - 3 unique articles on them. Each article targets a different physchological factor behind buying a product. I first tell them who the customer of my product is, so in the case that I'm not identifying them, they get defensive and buy, and in the case I am identifying them, they understand they are a good customer for this product thus, they buy. I attack the social and economical factors of the product, I justify the merchants price, and tell them how it is being used in a social setting. (are celebrities wearing this coat, will this grill make for better barbeques, etc, etc)
    • They are all built in Wordpress.
    My only goal with my websites is to be #1 in Google. That is it. I give nothing about having web 2.0 feeders:

    No Twitter
    No Hubpages
    No Squidoo
    No EzineArticles

    Just Google. It is amazing on how much traffic you will receive in the first position of Google.

    Currently my Virtual Real Estate receives roughly around 23,000 uniques per day broken across all my websites.

    =====================
    How do I build it all?
    =====================

    I outsource every stupid little thing.

    All I care about is the niche, and how much money I am making.

    I outsource writing
    I outsource development
    I outsource backlinking

    I simply worry about producing sales and watching the analytics to decide when to build more content and or target more keywords.

    -------------------------

    VRE's as a business model is really great. It produces passive income, however there is a management side to things just like all business's. This is where people will succeed or fail.

    Understanding what your analytics are telling you.
    Understanding your top 10 competition and how to beat it.
    Understanding Opportunitties in the SERPs.

    Just like any business, there are pros and cons. Here the cons are, I pay a lot of money in registration fees, but I am profitting. I have to spend 4 hours each day looking at my analytics and current market positions. I spend about 2 hours a day researching new markets.

    Obviously I don't have to do it each and everyday, but if I'm not getting a sale I WANT TO KNOW WHY. So I study it.

    ---------------------------

    So I don't want to make this long winded, but ask your questions and i will respond when I can.
    This is great. I have fewer than 10 websites, but i'm working on changing that!
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    Web Junkie,

    there is obviously a lot that I am not mentioning, and for good reasons.

    I try to stay away from trademark terms, because in the past when i went down this road I did receive a handful of letters from apparent attorney offices, don't know if they are real or not, didn't care to find out.

    In your Example:

    www.lumixlc100.com
    OR
    underwatercamera.com

    UnderwaterCamera would be my overall choice because it opens opportunity for more marketing. I can have multiple products, which i do like doing as much as i like to do specifics.

    However, don't put it past me to buy:

    www.model1.com
    www.model2.com
    www.model3.com
    www.model4.com

    All feeding as doorway pages for UnderwaterCamera.
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  • Profile picture of the author BethWilliams
    This is awesome LMC! I have a couple of sites like this that I've gotten to the top of Google with not much effort. It really does work, and your story is a great inspiration to just keep at it!

    thanks,
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  • Profile picture of the author neodarth
    Great work! Do you focus only on .com long tail keyword domains?

    I usually go for the .info when I test a new niche and the results are good enough (yeah I'm a cheap *******...) to pay for the .com later.
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  • Profile picture of the author osamabindrinking
    Ha, thats my plan too, Im up to 70 and I thought to go to 100, Google first place is so easy, i also have a costume portfolio, product domains and several larger sites, after your post I reckon I will just keep on going as long as the domains are still there.
    Well done dude! now the problem is everyone will be into it :-)
    As for running the operation, one day I would like to pay someone then learn kitesurfing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jacqueline Smith
    You mention paying alot of money on "registration" fees. What fees are you referring to?

    Great business model.

    Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author babypar
    Great info, what kind of traffic levels do you look for. DO you look for exact or broad match
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  • Profile picture of the author Mrsparrow
    Hi LMC,

    Looks like you're under assault! )

    Here's my shot also:

    Could you tell us more about your backlinking strategy?
    - any services you often get and you recommend
    - what kind of backlinks you prefer (profile, bookmarks, private networks etc)
    - how many do you usually build per site
    - how fast


    Would be great if you'd share some more details

    Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author warriorzX
    Hi LMC,
    Thanks for your most generous insight and it's plugged a couple of gaps for me. I think I can get something going from this.
    This is the best non-WSO on warrior to date.
    Am off buying some more domains now (again!)
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  • Profile picture of the author abbie kye
    Great post and very inspiring! thanks so much.
    Do you mind sharing who your outsourcers are?
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    • Profile picture of the author LMC
      Hey...

      Could you tell us more about your backlinking strategy?

      Backlinks are the #2 thing Google looks at, and is one of the most important factors to being ranked.

      I can't tell you my backlink sources. However I will tell you this:
      • The best backlink is a direct backlink from a website, not a profile, book mark, etc.
      • I build as many as I need to beat my competition. I look at how many they have individually and then how many they have all together, and produce about that number to start
      • In more competitive niches I produce more backlinks gradually after the initial flux.
      Here is the most important thing
      • The absolute best backlink for me has been getting into someones website's sidebar or footer. A direct (do-follow) link straight to my site with my anchor text.
      Think why?

      If you are on a blogs sidebar that has 200 posts, each individual single post STILL has that sidebar link on it. It's not just 1 backlink, but it is now 200.

      ^^^^^^^^^
      this is gold.
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      • Profile picture of the author howinfo
        Originally Posted by LMC View Post

        Hey...

        Could you tell us more about your backlinking strategy?

        Backlinks are the #2 thing Google looks at, and is one of the most important factors to being ranked.

        I can't tell you my backlink sources. However I will tell you this:
        • The best backlink is a direct backlink from a website, not a profile, book mark, etc.
        • I build as many as I need to beat my competition. I look at how many they have individually and then how many they have all together, and produce about that number to start
        • In more competitive niches I produce more backlinks gradually after the initial flux.
        Here is the most important thing
        • The absolute best backlink for me has been getting into someones website's sidebar or footer. A direct (do-follow) link straight to my site with my anchor text.
        Think why?

        If you are on a blogs sidebar that has 200 posts, each individual single post STILL has that sidebar link on it. It's not just 1 backlink, but it is now 200.

        ^^^^^^^^^
        this is gold.
        As you mentioned that you outsource everything, can you recommend the link building service you use as it seems to me that they do a very good job.
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          • Profile picture of the author ShaunAllen
            LMC,

            Great Post. It sounds like you need to create your own webs stores and start selling the things instead of being an affiliate. Then again, that's a lot more work but it could also be a lot more money. Good luck and great work. You've made me realize I don't need to rely on Adwords to make money online.
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      • Profile picture of the author robinpike
        Originally Posted by LMC View Post


        Here is the most important thing
        • The absolute best backlink for me has been getting into someones website's sidebar or footer. A direct (do-follow) link straight to my site with my anchor text.
        Think why?

        If you are on a blogs sidebar that has 200 posts, each individual single post STILL has that sidebar link on it. It's not just 1 backlink, but it is now 200.

        ^^^^^^^^^
        this is gold.

        WOW.. .LMC this is some golden information!!! I can't believe you are giving these great nugglets for free!!! Thanks so much for sharing!!!
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      • Profile picture of the author ddlingo
        Originally Posted by LMC View Post

        Hey...

        Could you tell us more about your backlinking strategy?

        Backlinks are the #2 thing Google looks at, and is one of the most important factors to being ranked.

        I can't tell you my backlink sources. However I will tell you this:
        • The best backlink is a direct backlink from a website, not a profile, book mark, etc.
        • I build as many as I need to beat my competition. I look at how many they have individually and then how many they have all together, and produce about that number to start
        • In more competitive niches I produce more backlinks gradually after the initial flux.
        Here is the most important thing
        • The absolute best backlink for me has been getting into someones website's sidebar or footer. A direct (do-follow) link straight to my site with my anchor text.
        Think why?

        If you are on a blogs sidebar that has 200 posts, each individual single post STILL has that sidebar link on it. It's not just 1 backlink, but it is now 200.

        ^^^^^^^^^
        this is gold.
        How can you get backlinks into someones sidebar or footer? When you say you get more backlinks that your competition...I ahve noticed that a lot of times the site with the most backlinks is not always in first position. So are you saying that you will get more backlinks that any in the top 10, or just more links that first place?
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      • Profile picture of the author cnrimgr1
        Originally Posted by LMC View Post

        Hey...

        Could you tell us more about your backlinking strategy?

        Backlinks are the #2 thing Google looks at, and is one of the most important factors to being ranked.

        I can't tell you my backlink sources. However I will tell you this:
        • The best backlink is a direct backlink from a website, not a profile, book mark, etc.
        • I build as many as I need to beat my competition. I look at how many they have individually and then how many they have all together, and produce about that number to start
        • In more competitive niches I produce more backlinks gradually after the initial flux.
        Here is the most important thing
        • The absolute best backlink for me has been getting into someones website's sidebar or footer. A direct (do-follow) link straight to my site with my anchor text.
        Think why?

        If you are on a blogs sidebar that has 200 posts, each individual single post STILL has that sidebar link on it. It's not just 1 backlink, but it is now 200.

        ^^^^^^^^^
        this is gold.
        Yep totally agree. While content is king backlinks has a lot to do with it as well. Example. Brand new toy site getting awesome Google traffic starting to rank high on Squidoo has another squidoo competitor. More or less same url only difference is I have a hyphen and the other url has an underscore. That Squidoo has 33 backlinks with this keyword as anchor text while mine has a whole one backlink. Here's how I know it is not the content. The other lens has a whole 238 words while mine has 2500 words of content. Yes unique and written well. So backlinks do matter and you can imagine what i am spending my time doing - building quality backlinks!
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        • Profile picture of the author inter123
          Hi LMC.

          I looked at the dumbanddumber site, you are advertising one product at $46 but when I clicked and went to the merchant, it was selling at $56.

          I guess the price could have gone up in the last few days since the site was created. When using CJ affliated stores, is it ok to advertise price and particularly price which may not be correct? I have been trying Amazon marketing and I don't think they allow the associates to advertise price.

          Cheers.

          Jim.
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    I would feel pretty good if you would know how to make websites that make $1 per day. It would be just a matter of making more sites to make more money!

    How do you guys do this?

    This is such a broad question how am I suppose to answer it?
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  • Profile picture of the author osamabindrinking
    My question is are they all on the same Ip and in your name?
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    Hey Osama,

    They are not all on the same IP.
    For the most part, my company's name.

    Paulie,

    I have shared servers with HostGator, and two dedicated servers.
    I also have my IT guy who helps in maintenence he has his own server.
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    • Profile picture of the author TSDMike
      Hi LMC,

      First off thanks for taking the time to share this. It is truly a wealth of information.

      My question if you don't mind, is that I'd like to ask you to elaborate on your methods for identifying which products to promote. Obvious resources like Google trends and the keyword tool go without saying.

      What I am trying to ask is, do you look for a product in CJ or Linkshare to promote then check it's viability with respect to competition, search volume, domain availability? Or do you identify a demand and then seek out a product to serve that need?

      Any insights into your process would be greatly appreciated.

      MJ
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      • Profile picture of the author LMC
        Originally Posted by TSDMike View Post

        Hi LMC,

        First off thanks for taking the time to share this. It is truly a wealth of information.

        My question if you don't mind, is that I'd like to ask you to elaborate on your methods for identifying which products to promote. Obvious resources like Google trends and the keyword tool go without saying.

        What I am trying to ask is, do you look for a product in CJ or Linkshare to promote then check it's viability with respect to competition, search volume, domain availability? Or do you identify a demand and then seek out a product to serve that need?

        Any insights into your process would be greatly appreciated.

        MJ
        I rather not discuss my strategies on finding products, it is the core to my business.

        I can tell you that I first look to see what people are buying online.
        I then look to see what is being offered to me in regards to what people are buying.

        From there...

        That is where the money is.

        I use about 6 different strategies to finding good products and niches.

        I'll give away one.

        I use Ebay Pulse to see what people are buying. It constantly changes with trends and by breaking apart the broad (pulse) category you can find some really interesting niches.

        Example... did you know people buy bird cages? I for one didn't. The niche has tons of opportunity, I have yet to enter the market, but if you look into the niche you can see that it breaks down into sizes:

        Small Bird Cages
        Medium Bird Cages
        Large Bird Cages

        then there is the specific bird in regards to the cage:

        Canary Bird Cage

        I pretty sure one of the above is available and has a great search.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeremiah Walsh
    Good post. This was exactly how I started out.

    Finding good people to outsource to was the problem for me. That took me a while to get right.
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  • Profile picture of the author Super Affiliate
    LMC,

    Wow, this is another inspiring success story. Thanks for sharing this. I'm making enough money everyday but if I'm thinking about a long term, your method is the way to do it I believe.

    Joe
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  • Profile picture of the author osamabindrinking
    Thanks LMC, so far my reseller account is ok, but I have been thinking about splitting things up (just in case) you realize you could have sold all this info. kudos for giving it away.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      Originally Posted by osamabindrinking View Post

      Thanks LMC, so far my reseller account is ok, but I have been thinking about splitting things up (just in case) you realize you could have sold all this info. kudos for giving it away.

      You will find that about this forum - the people really doing well are happy to share their information. The people not making money need to sell it.
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    osama,

    The amount of time to put the information together, package it off, right a sales page, and then deal with customer service would equate to about 50 sites being setup and producing daily income for me.

    There's making street income.
    Then there is making passive income.
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  • Profile picture of the author dwatkins
    Thanks for such a great post. I am wondering how much maintenance is required to keep it going. For instance, do you have to constantly change the offers, update coupons, etc. or is it set once and forget it? I don't seem to have much luck with CJ and amazon. I mostly do adsense, but it would be good to diversify.

    Also, do you only target high priced items? What price point would you consider to be not worth pursuing?
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  • Profile picture of the author matsumoto2307
    Hey,

    What sort of tools do you use to reverse engineer your competitors links?

    Mivka Mathieu
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    • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
      LMC,
      I have a question that I hope you dont mind me asking.

      I too am following a similiar strategy, however will be focusing on digital products, that are downloadable.

      My concerns given the fact that I intend on rolling out hundreds of sites over the next 12 months, is avoiding any type of Google penalties, or unwanted attention.

      Ive read a few postings on various forums, including WF, about members getting "slapped" or penalised, and losing hundreds of site rankings overnight, this for me is a concern, and something I would like to avoid if possible.

      My question is this....

      1. Do you register all of your domains PRIVATELY?
      2. Do you submit your sites to Google's Webmaster tools?
      3. Do you host all of your sites under the one account/hosting provider?
      4. If using adsense, at all, do you use seperate accounts to spread them out?

      Im hoping you care to shed some light on this for me, and of course for others with similiar interests.

      Cheers,
      John
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      • Profile picture of the author andromedae71
        Hello LMC,

        You mentioned that you don't use any stop words, prefixes or suffixes in your domain names.

        Did you test domains with these things in them in the past and found them not to rank in the serps?

        Best Regards,
        Don
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    • Profile picture of the author PhillTurner
      Great

      Just great.

      I think your dedication is what is amazing.

      Its hard to do it over and over again.

      Superb.

      I take my hat off to you

      Phill
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    • Profile picture of the author steveshoemaker
      Great post man seems like a logical and very practical plan to get sites ranking and making money. Could I ask who you use for your outsourcing? You can really get burned here thanks for the info.
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    • Profile picture of the author davidjames42973
      Excellent post!

      I began creating these type of sites myself a few years back, but was constantly distracted. I hired outsource people to build these sites, but I wasn't good at training them and because of that they never got the job done right.

      I finally came up with a really good system on how to build these sites, what niches to target and how to train somebody.

      It's really cool because I have an awesome system set up with an outsource team that can crank out some really good web 2.0 strategies that are profitable and now I have someone that can crank out the websites too.

      I hired an outsource guy about 4 months ago to build niche websites just like you're doing.

      It took me about 2 months to train my employee to build these up, but it was definitely an excellent investment in time and money.

      I definitely made a profit this month by implementing your system alone...
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  • Profile picture of the author vok
    How much of your business is out sourced? I've seen this method on another forum and I did think about setting myself up with it but the problem I couldn't resolve was the cost and time management issue of running so many websites. Excellent that you've found a system that works proves that it is possible to do!
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    • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

      This is a great business model. Rather than putting all your eggs in one basket, by diversifying and generating income from so many different sites you're in a MUCH better position to receive consistent income every single month.
      All his eggs are in one basket. The Google SEO ranking basket. If Google deindexes his sites, all his earnings disappear overnight.

      But...I'm 100% sure LMC has multiple non-SEO streams of income.

      I know this method works from experience. Google top ranking is quite easy to attain. The sidebar tip is Awesome!
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      • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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        Originally Posted by Jesus Perez View Post

        All his eggs are in one basket. The Google SEO ranking basket. If Google deindexes his sites, all his earnings disappear overnight.
        They aren't in one basket, they are in over 520 baskets. What are the odds google is going to de-index every one of his sites overnight?
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        • Profile picture of the author mathmo
          Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat View Post

          They aren't in one basket, they are in over 520 baskets. What are the odds google is going to de-index every one of his sites overnight?
          I think it is reasonable (although probably not likely?) possibility that they could all get de-indexed, if google notices a similarity between all of his sites which they then decide come down on.

          Like for instance his backlink strategy, I'm sure that is common across all his sites in terms of his method. Perhaps one day google may want to put a stop to that method?

          However I'm quite sure LMC would rise up from the ashes even stronger if google ever did such a thing

          Which brings me around to my question for LMC:

          I assume it hasn't been plain sailing the whole way? I'd be interested to know about the roller coaster ride to get to where you are, if there was one, what was the downswings and blind alley ways along the way?
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          • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
            Originally Posted by mathmo View Post

            I think it is reasonable (although probably not likely?) possibility that they could all get de-indexed, if google notices a similarity between all of his sites which they then decide come down on.
            If this was the case, then hundreds of millions of turnkey Wordpress sites would also be considered "similiar" and de-indexed. I highly doubt this could ever happen.
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            • Profile picture of the author mathmo
              Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

              If this was the case, then hundreds of millions of turnkey Wordpress sites would also be considered "similiar" and de-indexed. I highly doubt this could ever happen.
              I agree to an extent, thus google would have to be clever about how it differentiates between the innocent and intentional.

              Just saying never say never, as I suspect it could be done and if could be done... then far enough into the future it quite possibly will be done.
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    • Profile picture of the author boomstick
      I tried getting an article done and I first said, "Write an article about <topic>." I got back a generic article that really didn't say anything. So I told them to try and sell the product. The article I got back was too used-car-salesman like. So this went back and forth until I made them mad. lol

      How do you convey to your writers what you want the articles to say and how they should be constructed? What I mean is, what do you look for in a good article and how do I get a writer to deliver that?

      You are very generous. Thanks for sharing.
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      • Profile picture of the author Oxbloom
        Originally Posted by boomstick View Post

        How do you convey to your writers what you want the articles to say and how they should be constructed?
        Show them one. If they still can't do it, find new writers.
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    • Profile picture of the author shmeeko69
      What a post LMC & gives a great insight in to what is required to make a living from online marketing.

      I studied a couple of top online people & they focused on two things - number 1 with Google for their website related keywords & building a targeted list. If you can do both successfully then, you should do well in this game.

      235 websites is an awesome number over 7 years & I thought I was doing ok with 5 websites in 1 year & 4 months !

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    • Profile picture of the author staffjam
      Great post - i have quite a few product names such as BestDigitalCameras.com, WallStencils.com, etc... and many others - i've just been too lazy to do anything with them other than park them (where the revenue is now appalling) -or put up small minisites - that really make little to no money.

      I'd be interested in finding out more about your outsourcers if you would be willing to share. As someone else said - this seems to be the hardest part - good reliable minisite developers and article writers.

      You also mention that Backlinks are the #2 thing google looks at. What do you think the No.1 is?
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    • Profile picture of the author brendawyles
      This is really amazing, thanks for this information. I just can't imagine how you manage it like this. But because wealth creation has this wide selection of strategies to apply on, so no doubt about it.

      Success will really be at your hand, if you only know how to deal with it at any form especially having it online. This is where easy and fast money come.
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    • Profile picture of the author hamzidosh
      Honestly this post is one of the best I`ve read so far.
      But do you advice newbies to take this route? I`ve probably heard so much about focus
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    • Profile picture of the author Luis Medilo
      I've read this stuff before. LOL. Anyway, thanks LMC for the valuable information. I am looking for a business model that can be automated and replicated. I want to try a method like yours. I love making websites and I think I can do this, but I know I have a lot of study and work to do.
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    • Profile picture of the author carp104
      This is excellent, thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author cport
      Where is the call to action on this post?

      I have looked everywhere I could think of.

      Could someone tell me what the objective of the original poster was.

      Someone help me.
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      • Profile picture of the author Audrey Harvey
        Originally Posted by cport View Post

        Where is the call to action on this post?

        I have looked everywhere I could think of.

        Could someone tell me what the objective of the original poster was.

        Someone help me.
        To share a successful business model and help others...
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      • Profile picture of the author AndrewJohnson
        Originally Posted by cport View Post

        Where is the call to action on this post?

        I have looked everywhere I could think of.

        Could someone tell me what the objective of the original poster was.

        Someone help me.
        Maybe it was to help you and you're not quite bright enough to realise that?

        Stop looking a gift horse in the mouth and start realising that someone has given you a business model that genuinely works, makes money and doesn't require you to invest hundreds of dollars to buy it.

        Stop looking for the catch, say thanks and get on with - this is a 7 figure business model!
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    • Profile picture of the author kokosmokos
      Awesome! I will try to make as much blogspot blogs as i can
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    • Profile picture of the author garyfromdurham
      Great stuff and inspiring post.

      I love the way you are only promoting tangible products instead of digital goods.

      I have been looking at doing this for quite a while so thanks for the kick up the butt

      Gary
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    watkins,

    There is maintenance, but I outsource it now.

    Coupon codes do need to be adjusted, Sites do need to be updated at least once a month.

    Mivka,

    Market Samurai

    Chris,

    80% of this business model is outsourced.

    I research the niche.
    Decide on how to attack the market.
    Buy domain names.
    Choose the content type.

    Outsource everything else.
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  • Profile picture of the author coreytucker
    wow!! This came at the right time for me. I have always wondered if a method like this would work because it make's so much sense. There are so many phyiscal products out there to target that have low competion.

    I have always been focused on clickbank products because of the higher payout but I realize if I can make even 50 site's that average $3 a day that's an extra $150 a day coming in.

    I have a question though. Do you have any requirements for how many searches a term is getting per day? Or do you simply find any product that you see has at least 1 search per day for and target that? Im still a bit confused on how you manage to get traffic. I mean I struggle to get traffic to my clickbank products

    Thanks for the post!! Im going to get started on a method like this right away Oh and one last thing, how do you manage to get a sidelink backlink if you don't mind me asking? Also do you try to compete when each site on the first page has a lot of backlinks....or how do you realize if a keyword is too hard to compete for or not? Thanks!!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    corey,

    I have a question though. Do you have any requirements for how many searches a term is getting per day?

    I don't enter keywords that have less then 30-50 searches per day in the First Position of Google. You assume that in the first position you will receive between 45-50% naturally, obviously this is adjusted by your meta description.


    Or do you simply find any product that you see has at least 1 search per day for and target that?

    This would be a waste, you have to consider the following funnel:

    Clickthrough from SERPS --> Your website conversion to advertiser --> Advertiser's conversion to sale.

    For instance, I get 100 unique views, 28% of them click to my advertiser, so my advertiser is getting 28 unique views. They convert at 2% , so I may not see a sale with 100 uniques per day... My goal is to increase my conversion or increase my traffic to result in 100 uniques for the advertiser, thus producing 2 sales per day.


    Im still a bit confused on how you manage to get traffic. I mean I struggle to get traffic to my clickbank products

    All through Google.


    How do you manage to get a sidelink backlink if you don't mind me asking?

    This is my gold, I can't give it away sorry.

    Also do you try to compete when each site on the first page has a lot of backlinks....

    It depends on what type of backlinks, backlinks to the main domain, or backlinks throughout their pages.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
      Originally Posted by LMC View Post

      corey,

      I have a question though. Do you have any requirements for how many searches a term is getting per day?

      I don't enter keywords that have less then 30-50 searches per day in the First Position of Google. You assume that in the first position you will receive between 45-50% naturally, obviously this is adjusted by your meta description.
      LMC,

      I believe the bold red is a tip that many of the folks may well have skipped over. It is one more way to get your targeted keyword/s in to the SE's. Taking the time to do a short, but effective meta description may well be like kicking a field goal in overtime.

      It could well be what puts you into # 1 on Google.

      You have me really putting on my thinking cap and I wanted to thank you personally.

      Ken Leatherman

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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    Jesus,

    All his eggs are in one basket. The Google SEO ranking basket. If Google deindexes his sites, all his earnings disappear overnight.

    This is true. However, it won't happen considering my bounce rates are below 50% and there is nothing black hat about it.

    I do have other streams though, but if I did get deindexed...

    You may not see me any more :0

    jk

    maybe not though
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  • Profile picture of the author VicOnline
    LMC,

    Man I really appreciate you posting this. This is something you'd expect to see in the War Room or as a WSO.

    I have 2 questions for you.

    I'm a beginner, so I hope you don't mind if I ask a beginner question.

    Where do you get coupons from to offer your customers?

    Also you said that you can beat Amazon's prices. Where do you generally send people to that is cheaper than Amazon?

    Lastly, do you use an opt-in to try to collect any email addresses from these customers? Does it matter to you if the site you send these people to has an opt-in page or not?

    That was 3 questions, well mostly 3. LOL But this post is worthy of 3.
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  • Profile picture of the author coreytucker
    Thanks a ton LMC. What keyword tool do you use to determine if a keyword gets 30-50 searches per day? Thanks for answering....im really pumped about doing this
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    John,

    I pay $.80-$1.50 per link that is permanent and do follow.
    If I buy 30 of them I will get between 300-500 backlinks due to the above sidebar factor.


    Vic,

    Where do you get coupons from to offer your customers?

    Commission Junction and LinkShare are to good places to start. That's where I started, Naturally as you build an advertiser a lot of revenue they will try to take you "in-house" which is where the big dollars are made.

    They remove the third party networks allowing for you to earn more commission on sales, they provide custom merchant accounts for you.


    Also you said that you can beat Amazon's prices. Where do you generally send people to that is cheaper than Amazon?

    I beat amazons prices due to the above coupon codes.


    Lastly, do you use an opt-in to try to collect any email addresses from these customers?

    I use the coupon code to collect an opt-in for future marketing purposes.

    Does it matter to you if the site you send these people to has an opt-in page or not?

    I don't affiliate with anyone that has their own form unless I'm being paid for the lead.
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    • Profile picture of the author VicOnline
      Originally Posted by LMC View Post


      Vic,

      Where do you get coupons from to offer your customers?

      Commission Junction and LinkShare are to good places to start. That's where I started, Naturally as you build an advertiser a lot of revenue they will try to take you "in-house" which is where the big dollars are made.

      They remove the third party networks allowing for you to earn more commission on sales, they provide custom merchant accounts for you.


      Also you said that you can beat Amazon's prices. Where do you generally send people to that is cheaper than Amazon?

      I beat amazons prices due to the above coupon codes.

      LMC, thanks for responding, but I'm still a little confused.

      These coupons that you are talking about, are they like other online coupons? For example, 10% off, $5 off, etc. If so, are you saying that CJ & LS offer you these coupons? I'm not understanding how CJ or LS could offer a coupon for somebody else's product. Wouldn't these coupons be available to all affiliates if they did offer them?
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      • Profile picture of the author bitriot
        Originally Posted by VicOnline View Post

        LMC, thanks for responding, but I'm still a little confused.

        These coupons that you are talking about, are they like other online coupons? For example, 10% off, $5 off, etc. If so, are you saying that CJ & LS offer you these coupons? I'm not understanding how CJ or LS could offer a coupon for somebody else's product. Wouldn't these coupons be available to all affiliates if they did offer them?
        On CJ, when you are accepted into affiliate programs, often times the program managers will mail you coupons, sale banners and so forth.
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    • Profile picture of the author Anthony_Hall
      Originally Posted by LMC View Post

      Lastly, do you use an opt-in to try to collect any email addresses from these customers?

      I use the coupon code to collect an opt-in for future marketing purposes.
      So it does work!

      Although to get people to opt in I've been writing buying guides or any little thing I can think of for a potential customer to download.

      Thank you so much for showing me another way!
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnCosmos
        Great thread. I know for a fact this works because I do something in a similar way on a similar (attempted) scale.

        I think the main point and path to success is there are ( at least) 2 parts:

        1. The planning/strategy ( finding niches, getting domains, keywords to target, affiliates,etc)
        2. Implementing it, the setup- Getting your content up, getting your links,etc.

        My big problem is the 2nd part. I tend to do very well at coming up with ideas, even registering the domains and all of that. But when it comes time to set everything up I have a hard time just doing it.

        It's "easier" to an extent when you can and have budgeted for outsourcing. I could kick myself because at certain points I've had the funding and plans to outsource different things and then just didn't act. Sometimes its better to be a buyer than a seller, and I have found ( after spending countless hours building links and submitting sites myself) many tasks are better outsourced. You just have to know what you are doing. You outsource the monotonous grunt work ( for example, you do the research to know what kind of links you need and what anchors, etc, then get someone else to do the repetitive tasks) and the specialized things you don't have the skill or time/interest in doing/learning.

        I guess I consider myself fortunate because I really have the first part down. I find a lot of people really struggle with the idea part, figuring out what to market. That comes very easily to me.

        Some such as myself get caught up the second part and others have troubles with both/all aspects. A lot of it is just about DOING.

        I know a lot of comments have warned people about not jumping into something and buying 100s of sites or anything just because one person is successful with this. I understand that, IF you don't figure out the strategy/research part first.

        However, I have NEVER failed to make a profitable site out of a Keyword domain, provided that I actually DID THE WORK. I'm not bragging, maybe I'm just good at choosing niches after years of trial and error with many aspects of internet marketing. There's really a whole lot involved in all of it. Someone like LMC can layout a basic outline/blueprint for it, but there is a lot of work required to figure it out for yourself.

        As far as outsourcing goes ( I notice a lot of questions about finding outsourced help), I look for providers in forums/places that are established and have a feedback/rating system. Then start with a small test. A lot of people will offer cheap intro/test packages of their work. Keep in mind, at least IMO, it is your job to figure out what you need to do and then delegate it. The outsources providers are only going to be as good as you allow them to. Same goes with the success of your sites. If you have bad strategy like chasing after the wrong keywords, using weak domains, bad link anchor text, etc..it's not going to turn out well. But if you really know how to hit all the aspects it's pretty much as simple as: get domains, get content, get links, monetize= make money.

        There are some people you can pretty much tell step by step exactly how to do things and they never will or they will limit themselves. For example, i have a friend I've helped out a lot, probably too much. My own business has suffered as a result of spending so much time explaining to others. My friend has a handful of sites that each make at least a few dollars a day. He could easily have a few hundred sites like that. Instead he's struggling. I guess he's "content" but not really content if you know what I mean. And he's probably doing better than most people who are into internet marketing. You read so many people on forums who have never made money or done much when some things are relatively simple. You can get domains for a buck and hosting for free. Content and ideas come from your own time at your leisure. it all comes down to doing things. Don't proceed blindly but don't get caught up paralysis by analysis.

        guess I'll take my own advice and go work on a few of my few hundred sites that still need to be setup.
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    Nice analysis of an actual business. If you are going to be making a lot of money, you will have to spend some money, too.

    The interesting thing about this is that it seems, in the long run, you probably have less overhead than the average offline business that brings in the same amount in revenue.

    That's what makes marketing online great!
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    Corey,

    I use Market Samurai.

    I take my SEOT number, which is the searches in the first position of Google.
    I multiple that number by my PBR percentage, which is my phrase to broad search ratio.
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    • LMC,
      Thanks a lot for being so generous with this information and with your time. \

      Figuring out how many searches per month is good to target is one thing I've struggled with as everyone seems to have their own idea and it's often not clear which figures they are using. You've been really specific here and I appreciate that, but I want to make sure I'm not confused due to my ignorance about some of the terms you've used.

      So, if I was using the Google keyword tool and skipping Market Samurai (for now), would this be an accurate equation to figure the number of searches per month?

      EXACT Searches X (Phrase / BROAD)=SEARCHES PER MONTH

      And you only target that keyword string if that final number equates to 30-50 per day-correct? Also, there has been a big uproar lately about Google's changes with their keyword tool and Market Samurai's figures were perceived as innacurate as a result. Has this affected your business at all or the way that you analyze your numbers?

      I appreciate any answers and thanks again for the thread. Some real nuggets in here.

      All the Best,
      James



      Originally Posted by LMC View Post

      Corey,

      I use Market Samurai.

      I take my SEOT number, which is the searches in the first position of Google.
      I multiple that number by my PBR percentage, which is my phrase to broad search ratio.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
        Originally Posted by dru-man View Post

        Figuring out how many searches per month is good to target is one thing I've struggled with as everyone seems to have their own idea and it's often not clear which figures they are using.
        Dru-Man,

        LMC may use different rules however, I use the following parameters as a general guide, and this has seen relatively good results. These search figures are based on Google search only.

        SEARCHES PER DAY - At least 60 exact searches per day.
        PHRASE SEARCH - less than 60,000. Less than 30,000 is a definite goer.
        ALLINTITLE SEARCH - less than 1,500. Less than 500 is a definite.

        PBR would be calculated as such...as calculated by Market Samurai for a given keyword (below).

        "how to play an acoustic guitar"

        ESPD (exact searches per day) - 19
        SEOT (expected clicks or search engine traffic) - 7
        SEOC (search engine competition ) - 25,200
        SEOTC (seach engine competition in title) - 344
        SEOTCR (search engine ratio based on SEOTC/SEOC) - 1%
        PBR - 6%

        As you can see, this keyword wouldnt qualify, as the ESPD is too low. What you are looking for is high ESPD, high SEOT, low SEOC, low SEOTC, low SEOTCR and a PBR of at least 15%.

        I dont intend to hijack the thread, I just thought I would share what works for me...

        Hope this helps dude.
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        • Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

          Dru-Man,

          LMC may use different rules however, I use the following parameters as a general guide, and this has seen relatively good results. These search figures are based on Google search only.

          SEARCHES PER DAY - At least 60 exact searches per day.
          PHRASE SEARCH - less than 60,000. Less than 30,000 is a definite goer.
          ALLINTITLE SEARCH - less than 1,500. Less than 500 is a definite.

          PBR would be calculated as such...as calculated by Market Samurai for a given keyword (below).

          "how to play an acoustic guitar"

          ESPD (exact searches per day) - 19
          SEOT (expected clicks or search engine traffic) - 7
          SEOC (search engine competition ) - 25,200
          SEOTC (seach engine competition in title) - 344
          SEOTCR (search engine ratio based on SEOTC/SEOC) - 1%
          PBR - 6%

          As you can see, this keyword wouldnt qualify, as the ESPD is too low. What you are looking for is high ESPD, high SEOT, low SEOC, low SEOTC, low SEOTCR and a PBR of at least 15%.

          I dont intend to hijack the thread, I just thought I would share what works for me...

          Hope this helps dude.

          Awesome, thanks a lot for hopping in and answering so thoroughly, John. This is very helpful, and I'm sure LMC doesn't mind as he's getting hammered with questions right now. LOL

          Cheers,
          James
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  • Profile picture of the author Nolimit2it
    Darn This IS Exciting...
    I've believed that this format of a business model would work and work well but I had no idea that it could be expanded to this level.
    Thanks for making my BRAIN hurt with thinking about how to get this moving forward. I've been "playing" with the business model but never really got things working the way I felt they could.
    Great Post LMC... sharing this info was like a kick in the butt... onward and upward!
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  • Profile picture of the author eiilers
    So do you do any email marketing or list building on these sites? Or don't you worry about autoresponders and list building?
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  • Profile picture of the author gotti3636
    Thanks for sharing LMC.

    I actually just started to look in to this recently because I know it works well.

    I currently have 10 websites under way with a plan for another 100 soon after seeing the results of the first 10 All are 100% outsourced (I'm not even choosing the niche/product - I'm just supplying the money and details (like clickbank ID, amazon ID, CJ links etc.) to get the job done )
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    • Profile picture of the author thaismr
      Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

      Thanks for sharing LMC.

      I actually just started to look in to this recently because I know it works well.

      I currently have 10 websites under way with a plan for another 100 soon after seeing the results of the first 10 All are 100% outsourced (I'm not even choosing the niche/product - I'm just supplying the money and details (like clickbank ID, amazon ID, CJ links etc.) to get the job done )
      How do you check if they did a good job researching the niche?

      Do you give any type of orientation as to how low competition you want, and how big of a market share (searches/month) you want?
      :confused:

      I'm asking this because, like LMC, that's one task I wouldn't want to outsource.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mhoram
      Originally Posted by gotti3636 View Post

      I currently have 10 websites under way with a plan for another 100 soon after seeing the results of the first 10 All are 100% outsourced (I'm not even choosing the niche/product - I'm just supplying the money and details (like clickbank ID, amazon ID, CJ links etc.) to get the job done )
      I'm puzzled: if they're doing all the work including researching and choosing the niche, what do they need you for? Why don't they get their own Clickbank/Amazon/CJ IDs and keep all the profits for themselves?
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      • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
        Thats a great technique, where do you buy your domains?

        And also what is ur main monetization model....adsense, affiliate marketing? i havent ready everything since its so long....

        But i do want to build a huge pile of sites too.
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        • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
          Originally Posted by Terry Gorry View Post

          Where will you get the time to build a huge pile of sites, promote, back link, monitor, outsource etc. if you haven't the time to read this thread?
          You are right... but I just had specific questions. I'm looking for cheap domains and also, what niches do you guys suggest?
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    Looks like a great system
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    So do you do any email marketing or list building on these sites? Or don't you worry about autoresponders and list building?

    Every website I own has an opt-In on it. It's the best way to produce long term customer value.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randy Daugherty
    May I know if how long you've been into this industry and how many months it takes for you to get the figures you've mentioned? It is interesting...
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  • Profile picture of the author snapcontent
    Nice post. Especially the monetization advice - as you say, Amazon with tehir short cookie only really catches the 'impulse' shopper.
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  • Profile picture of the author phpnetpro
    I'm not going to bombard you with questions LMC, since I know my way around marketing and the internet. I did want to pass along the thanks for the great information that you have shared with us here.
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  • Profile picture of the author teaball
    LMC,
    You have 2 problems with this model. 1.) it's too simple; 2.) the model makes too much money for being so simple.

    Yes, I'm jesting with the model's elegant simplicity of "Find what works, rinse, repeat."

    I have a question about analytics for your site tracking. Who's is the strongest? in-house? Your own?

    thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author George Chernikov
    I just have one question - LMC mentioned paying for do-follow links, but isn't that illegal in Google's eyes? Or is my fever getting the better of me and I got it all wrong?
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  • Profile picture of the author EndGame
    Hi George,

    I know Google doesn't like it, and it might violate their TOS, but it's not "illegal" as such.

    If you are buying the links in a way that Google cannot detect it, then it becomes very tough and almost impossible for Google to enforce that term/rule.

    Many SEO blogs and the like will also tell you that Google is starting to discount site-wide links in sidebars and footers of websites, and sites that use these in backlinking may see a drop in rankings.

    However, what people say, and what is working are two different things. A lot of people will tell you profile links, forum signatures, blog comments (and some times even articles submitted to directories) don't work any more or are being clamped down on. If you do a little research however, you see a lot of sites ranking for good terms using all these "bad" techniques.

    The only way to know for sure is to test and try it yourself.

    I realize the second part of my post here does not really answer or address your question, but I thought I would throw it in here for other readers who it might interest.
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    Love this thread so much I subscribed.
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  • Profile picture of the author stephenxanders
    Originally Posted by John McEachern View Post

    May I ask how long it took you to get to this point in your business? And did you originally start by outsourcing everything?

    Good point John. For sure this is not something that was instantly created and built. 235+ website is quite hard to develop and the more harder to look for several niche to target.

    However, I'm really impressed and inspired. Because if he can do it. Then we can too. I'm just thinking what kinds of online business tools he is using to created all this success online. :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    Ok Ok ok... lots of questions over night, hopefully i answer them all here:

    Dru-Man,

    My equations on search were calculated based on Market samurai's descrepency. I looked at what a sample size of 15 of my #1 sites were getting for the specific keyword term and reverse calculated where it would fall in Market samurai.

    For me, it was Phrase in 1st position * PBR% = Traffic Per Day * 30 = Monthly.

    It was more or less a flip of the coin until i prepared the above calculation with the MS to Google Keyword discrepency. But now it is pretty consistent, but i still double check my results.

    Ramone is absolutely correct in his analyse of a keyword.

    I also will check the following in google:

    intitle:"my keyword" and inanchor:"my keyword"

    That above phrase will give you a X,XXX number, I find this to be my PURE competition, people targetting my keyword in their titles and content. People who understand Internet Marketing. The lower this is, the easier it is to rank.

    To be honest I would have to look at Google's tool and figure out the right calculation, i don't think they display PBR% so you would have to self figure out that ratio.

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    1. Do you register all of your domains PRIVATELY?
    2. Do you submit your sites to Google's Webmaster tools?
    3. Do you host all of your sites under the one account/hosting provider?
    4. If using adsense, at all, do you use seperate accounts to spread them out?


    I register most of my domains privately. My larger webstores of more then 20 products will get accurate contact information, including a mailing address.

    I do not submit to Google's Webmaster Tools

    I don't host all of them under one hosting account.

    I never use adsense. It destroys my conversion on my sales and signups.

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    George, Google wants natural backlinking. They want site owners and the consumers to naturally talk about your websites, this is what backlinking was meant to be... an indication of popularity.

    Popularity contests are always biased.

    The key thing is to not buy links from link vendors as Google knows these vendors exist and are tracking where they are selling.

    I buy links from site owners. Not from exchanges, not from brokers, not from professionals.

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    Coming back to penalties, your main goals once you are receiving traffic is to keep your bounce rate as low as possible. If your receiving 75-85% bounce rates you are in threat of being penalize for non-relevancy. If people are using your site and staying on it, it is obviously relevant and should be in it's given position.

    EndGame,

    Really don't know what blogs your reading, or if they are people trying to just creat controversy. It would make NO SENSE for Google to dislike sidebar links considering they are a PURE link in their minds.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
      Originally Posted by LMC View Post

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      1. Do you register all of your domains PRIVATELY?
      2. Do you submit your sites to Google's Webmaster tools?
      3. Do you host all of your sites under the one account/hosting provider?
      4. If using adsense, at all, do you use seperate accounts to spread them out?

      I register most of my domains privately. My larger webstores of more then 20 products will get accurate contact information, including a mailing address.

      I do not submit to Google's Webmaster Tools

      I don't host all of them under one hosting account.

      I never use adsense. It destroys my conversion on my sales and signups.

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      Thanks dude, understood.

      Sorry, one more question....

      Do you use Google Analytics? ....or a third party app for stats???
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  • Profile picture of the author EndGame
    Hi LMC,

    I read a variety of blogs and forums, a lot from the affbuzz.com website, all the way to seomoz etc.

    Across some of these blogs and forums, I have seen people talk about sidebar and footer links loosing weight in the Google algorithm and the possibility of sites using such links being penalized.

    That however was not my point.

    My point was, you will see lots of bloggers and forum owners tell you all sorts of things that do and don't work. The reality is, just because they write about it, doesn't make them right, and as a result there is a lot of disinformation around.

    The only way to know what works is by going out and testing it yourself and getting "in the trenches".

    So in this instance, although there is a school of thought that thinks sidebar links are getting penalized or loosing effectiveness it obviously isn't the case when you analyze the backlinks of ranking websites, or implement the technique yourself.

    I was not having a pop at you or saying you were wrong. Quite the opposite, and at the same time making a broader point.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
      Originally Posted by EndGame View Post

      Hi LMC,

      I read a variety of blogs and forums, a lot from the affbuzz.com website, all the way to seomoz etc.

      Across some of these blogs and forums, I have seen people talk about sidebar and footer links loosing weight in the Google algorithm and the possibility of sites using such links being penalized.
      I can say with absolute certainty that this isnt the case. Ive been using this method myself since 2004 with excellent results.
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      • Profile picture of the author EndGame
        Hi Ramone,

        I am not saying it is the case, and I am not disputing what you are saying. I was making another point, albeit very clumsily!

        I think I am just going to go back to work. :-/
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  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    Very nice for you to take the time to post this. Good man! (Although I can already smell the influx of canary bird cage sales in the world. Lol).

    Good to note, anyone without a lot of money can begin doing the work themselves, and those with money can outsource everything (except the management, but if you could find the right person, you could probably outsource that as well.)

    Great post, Great WSO, wish you all the success in the world.

    On a side note, one should always worry about the Big G and what they are likely to do next. Just like dumping money into mutual funds netted 10-12% for 25+ years and then crashed and burned, hate to see you have 80% of your traffic come from 'G' and have something unforeseen change drastically. (Of course by then, lets hope you can retire. )
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  • Profile picture of the author George Chernikov
    Hmmm... Half-tempted to throw $10k at it next week and see where it takes me in a month
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    Hey endgame,

    I'm not thinking your taking a pop at me, I'm just being ignorant lol, I'll have to check out what's they are saying, in my practice I've seen better results with sidebars.

    Dogscout,

    I'm not going to waste time with WSOs or customer service, its not my cup of tea, its to much labor.
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    • Profile picture of the author sucan
      Dear LMC can you please tell what kind of hosting do you use, one hosting is like risky and many dedicated servers are like too costly, please advice.
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      • Profile picture of the author Wide
        Originally Posted by sucan View Post

        Dear LMC can you please tell what kind of hosting do you use, one hosting is like risky and many dedicated servers are like too costly, please advice.
        Use VPS servers, cost like ~$25/mo.
        Put up 30-40 sites and they cost less than a buck per month to host.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Dude, just incase you missed it...

    Do you use Google Analytics or a third party app for stats?

    Cheers,
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Hunter
      John,

      He mentioned here - http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...l#post2729007:

      "I register most of my domains privately. My larger webstores of more then 20 products will get accurate contact information, including a mailing address.

      I do not submit to Google's Webmaster Tools

      I don't host all of them under one hosting account.

      I never use adsense. It destroys my conversion on my sales and signups."

      Hope that helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    Ramone,

    Sorry I missed that question... I use google analytics
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    • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
      Originally Posted by LMC View Post

      Ramone,

      Sorry I missed that question... I use google analytics
      Cool thanks man. So I assume no "unwanted attention" using GA?

      All under the one account, or multiple? And if under multiple, do you have a threshold for how many sites you monitor under the one account?

      Sorry for all the questions dude, Ill PM you $25 via paypal for your time
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      • Profile picture of the author rizzy
        Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

        LMC,

        I'm suprised you made that much because according to the Google Keyword Tool "dumb and dumber tuxedo" got 720 EXACT local monthly searches for the month of September; 2,400 searches for BROAD; and 1,600 for PHRASE.

        Hasn't shown the month of October yet but I expect the searches will be higher than this, but even so, your conversions must be really amazing.

        Quick question though, what do you look at as far as determining number of searches for a particular keyword---exact, phrase, or broad?

        I would think exact being that you would want to know EXACTLY how many searches the EXACT keyword gets on average per month.
        Here is your answer to the question about searches brittlesnc...

        Originally Posted by LMC View Post

        corey,

        I have a question though. Do you have any requirements for how many searches a term is getting per day?

        I don't enter keywords that have less then 30-50 searches per day in the First Position of Google. You assume that in the first position you will receive between 45-50% naturally, obviously this is adjusted by your meta description.


        Or do you simply find any product that you see has at least 1 search per day for and target that?

        This would be a waste, you have to consider the following funnel:

        Clickthrough from SERPS --> Your website conversion to advertiser --> Advertiser's conversion to sale.

        For instance, I get 100 unique views, 28% of them click to my advertiser, so my advertiser is getting 28 unique views. They convert at 2% , so I may not see a sale with 100 uniques per day... My goal is to increase my conversion or increase my traffic to result in 100 uniques for the advertiser, thus producing 2 sales per day.


        Im still a bit confused on how you manage to get traffic. I mean I struggle to get traffic to my clickbank products

        All through Google.


        How do you manage to get a sidelink backlink if you don't mind me asking?

        This is my gold, I can't give it away sorry.

        Also do you try to compete when each site on the first page has a lot of backlinks....

        It depends on what type of backlinks, backlinks to the main domain, or backlinks throughout their pages.
        Originally Posted by LMC View Post

        Corey,

        I use Market Samurai.

        I take my SEOT number, which is the searches in the first position of Google.
        I multiple that number by my PBR percentage, which is my phrase to broad search ratio.
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      • Profile picture of the author rizzy
        Originally Posted by kea55 View Post

        LMC...do you use market samurai or something to find those exact keywords that have under 30,000 searches.? I've been looking for the last couple nights..no success
        See below for your answer...

        Originally Posted by LMC View Post

        watkins,

        There is maintenance, but I outsource it now.

        Coupon codes do need to be adjusted, Sites do need to be updated at least once a month.

        Mivka,

        Market Samurai

        Chris,

        80% of this business model is outsourced.

        I research the niche.
        Decide on how to attack the market.
        Buy domain names.
        Choose the content type.

        Outsource everything else.
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    Hey,

    I do everything as whitehat as possible, and I have not had an issue with GA or Google in regards to unwanted attention.

    I have 5 accounts each with 100 websites
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    • Profile picture of the author DonGroom
      Hey LMC,

      When you say you are using coupons, what exactly are you talking about. Sorry I am a noob..... you have to start somewhere. lol


      Whos products do you market? and is it possible I can see an example of one of your websites?
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    I never thought about collecting emails for my physical product sites - what do you email them about? They benefits of the product ..... it's uses ... etc...?

    I would imagine with that many sites you would have to just setup an autoresponder sequence that just spits out the emails at a preset interval.

    Gosh, now you have me thinking about this because I havent had that as part of my plan.

    Thanks for being so generous with your time in this thread - you probably could have made a few more sites with that time!

    Lee
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Hunter
      Originally Posted by cashcow View Post

      I never thought about collecting emails for my physical product sites - what do you email them about? They benefits of the product ..... it's uses ... etc...?

      I would imagine with that many sites you would have to just setup an autoresponder sequence that just spits out the emails at a preset interval.

      Gosh, now you have me thinking about this because I havent had that as part of my plan.

      Thanks for being so generous with your time in this thread - you probably could have made a few more sites with that time!

      Lee
      Lee,

      What you would need to focus on if you did set up an e-mail newsletter for each of your sites, are products that are related to the main product that your site is about. Adding an e-mail sequence to sites selling physical products is a great idea and something else I have always wondered about is if it is possible to somehow create an incentive for sites that are outside of the sites that he mentions, such as Commission Junction. What I've been trying to find is a way of some kind to actually incentivize selling products for Amazon.com.

      I'd love to hear of a way to do that! LMC, thanks for sharing and for answering questions!
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  • Profile picture of the author Zabrina
    Great thread! I've read through it and I really appreciate your taking the time to do this.

    I've been looking into doing something like this for a while, so it makes me happy that it works! One question, though.

    Any advice on how to begin outsourcing it? I kind of want to get together 1K and invest it in about 10 of these sites to get started. How long would it take me to recoup the money to invest it in another 10 sites, do you think?
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    • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
      Originally Posted by Zabrina View Post

      Great thread! I've read through it and I really appreciate your taking the time to do this.

      I've been looking into doing something like this for a while, so it makes me happy that it works! One question, though.

      Any advice on how to begin outsourcing it? I kind of want to get together 1K and invest it in about 10 of these sites to get started. How long would it take me to recoup the money to invest it in another 10 sites, do you think?
      Zabrina,
      You might want to download the sample work order form I posted in THIS THREAD. It might come in useful when you begin outsourcing
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    cashcow,

    Basically this is how I do it.

    I use an instant coupon code to build a list of subscribers, it's not that great of a conversion, just around 8-12%.

    I use SINGLE opt-in, and send them an instant message through my autoresponder that gives them the product coupon. In most cases I have other discounts for the entire advertiser, like 10% off anything. I will send that to them to.

    To build consistent revenue through my lists I choose related and growth products.

    Meaning. let's say I sell some baby clothes to a customer through one of my websites. It only makes sense that in a year or two they will need infant clothes, in two more years, small child clothing, etc, etc

    You grow with the customer. Those are growth products.

    In another example, since it is most recent:

    I sell a Halloween Costume. I send them an email about hosting or going to a Halloween party and some accessories that they can bring or use.

    Since my buyer is "festive" minded, I can market to them Christmas products and pretty much every holiday.


    Zabrina,

    I would say it would take 4-6 weeks to correctly position those sites, and once positioned (#1 in Google), I could make it back in as little as two weeks.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    Thanks so much for your reply ... I can't believe I never thought to do this. Isn't it funny how you get set in your ways and forget to "think". Anyway, now that you have gotten me thinking the wheels are spinning and I can see plenty of things to send to them in an email. Thanks!

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    Wonderful. You have given a great idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author gmr324
    You mentioned that you use Google Analytics on your sites but don't submit them to the Google Webmaster tools. I'm just curious why this is? Does this mean you don't submit sitemaps and robots.txt files?

    How tightly do you adhere to getting sidebar links on sites in the same exact niche as your websites?

    What link velocity do you maintain to keep your #1 website positions once they are attained in maintenance mode?
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  • Profile picture of the author NicholasX
    just wondering, if you have 200+ websites.. so that means you have to pay $5 (for hosting) x 235 = $1175 per month? and $8 ( for domain) x 235 = $1880 per year ?

    thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author gabluesky
      Hi,

      Thanks for all the useful information. Can you suggest a particular wordpress theme for these types of sites and also additional plugins that you use?

      Thanks,

      bluesky
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      • Profile picture of the author rhondaklewis
        Hi LMC, I was wondering if you use any domain other than .com.
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    • Profile picture of the author BarryOnline
      Originally Posted by NicholasX View Post

      just wondering, if you have 200+ websites.. so that means you have to pay $5 (for hosting) x 235 = $1175 per month? and $8 ( for domain) x 235 = $1880 per year ?

      thanks
      EDIT: LMC answered the questions
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  • Profile picture of the author Whisper01Barry
    What a great idea.
    Thank You
    Barry
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    When is the e-book coming out?
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  • Profile picture of the author sarahberra
    Wow this awesome!! Even $4 per day is a high return on your investment because websites are so cheap to host and build. I am trying to set up an auto-blog network to do the exact same thing. I would even be happy with $1. per day. Thank you for sharing! Perhaps you could sell and e-book about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    just wondering, if you have 200+ websites.. so that means you have to pay $5 (for hosting) x 235 = $1175 per month? and $8 ( for domain) x 235 = $1880 per year ?

    I don't pay monthly for each site, I pay monthly for a fixed cost for unlimited domains.

    Also have dedicated servers

    Yes the domain registration is about accurate.

    You mentioned that you use Google Analytics on your sites but don't submit them to the Google Webmaster tools. I'm just curious why this is? Does this mean you don't submit sitemaps and robots.txt files?

    You don't need to submit your sitemaps and robot.txt for Google to read them, it is a theory by submitting them you will be indexed faster but I find this theory to be as close to surviving through a blackhole.

    I am just patient and wait for Google to index me at their speed, and then I increase my cache rate.

    How tightly do you adhere to getting sidebar links on sites in the same exact niche as your websites?

    5-10% of my backlinks are relevant.

    What link velocity do you maintain to keep your #1 website positions once they are attained in maintenance mode?

    I don't adjust my link velocity until i see myself moving out of the top ranks, otherwise I let the natural links come in.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
      Originally Posted by LMC View Post

      ....then I increase my cache rate.
      How is this achieved dude?
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  • Profile picture of the author Debbie Allen
    LMC - Thanks for sharing - it's posts like yours that make this forum so wonderful! You have given all of us ideas about productive ways to be spending our time. I can't wait to finish the project I'm working on so I can focus on this...

    Just wanted to say Thank You!
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  • Profile picture of the author Asher
    Hi LMC,

    Great stuff you're sharing here. Much appreciated.

    Quick question on the hosting, I might have missed
    that response... where do you get the different c
    class hosting for all your different domains?

    I've read about that but never really understood how
    that worked - all I know is that it's said to be 1 of
    the requirements to having your site protected from
    the slap happy Google just because each site has its
    own unique IP address.

    Asher
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    • Profile picture of the author JoeWunschSEO
      Originally Posted by Asher View Post

      Hi LMC,

      Great stuff you're sharing here. Much appreciated.

      Quick question on the hosting, I might have missed
      that response... where do you get the different c
      class hosting for all your different domains?

      I've read about that but never really understood how
      that worked - all I know is that it's said to be 1 of
      the requirements to having your site protected from
      the slap happy Google just because each site has its
      own unique IP address.

      Asher
      Google is not going to penalize you for hosting hundreds of domains from a single IP address. There is nothing wrong with that, I have over 1200 domains hosted from a single IP address on my dedicated server, and all of them are ranking very well on google (except for newer projects of course, but my point was, zero penalties).

      Unless you are inter-linking your domains, I do not see any point in getting different IP's or registrar information for them.

      Think about all of the cheap-o hosting companies that slap thousands of users onto the same server, all on the same IP. Unless you are interlinking them and trying to outsmart their algorithm you are fine.

      Anyone who disagrees, please reply I am always interested in different opinions!

      Joe
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      • Profile picture of the author dsiomtw
        Joe I think that's a good point and what you're saying is technically true, but I can tell you that if I owned that many sites and relied on Google for almost all my traffic there's no way in hell that I would want Google to know about all my sites (or be able to easily figure it out). That's just an unnecessary risk if you ask me. One day out of the blue they could decide that your sites aren't providing enough "value" to users, and de-index them all at once since you made it so easy for them to find all your sites.
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        • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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          Originally Posted by dsiomtw View Post

          Joe I think that's a good point and what you're saying is technically true, but I can tell you that if I owned that many sites and relied on Google for almost all my traffic there's no way in hell that I would want Google to know about all my sites (or be able to easily figure it out). That's just an unnecessary risk if you ask me. One day out of the blue they could decide that your sites aren't providing enough "value" to users, and de-index them all at once since you made it so easy for them to find all your sites.
          No offense, but your argument doesn't make a lot of sense.
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          • Profile picture of the author osamabindrinking
            Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat View Post

            No offense, but your argument doesn't make a lot of sense.
            I had a question for google webmasters about interlinking and found a post by a guy who had over 300 sites taken down overnight by G. he was gutted and the reply was, thin affiliate sites no real value for the user.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    LMC, you are very gracious to share this with us, thank you.

    I have taken a personal lesson from what LMC is teaching here - and I'm not talking about his exact method of making money online. Here are my "take-aways" from LMC, if you will:

    1. It is obvious that LMC is successful because he has identified a business strategy that works and he simply replicates that exact strategy over and over again.

    2. LMC is successful because he is mastering "leveraging" of his time with out-sourcing, software tools, auto-responders, templates, etc.

    3. LMC has the work ethic necessary to spend hours daily on his business doing those activities that he does best and out-sourcing the rest. He is consistent, persistent (been doing this for years), observant.

    4. He pays attention to little details on each site and changes or fixes things that aren't producing ... in other words, he is learning and adapting to what works as he goes. He doesn't just throw up a site never to return again. He monitors (his site and the competition), watches the analytics (where traffic is coming from, etc) and adds links and content over time if needed to stay atop the SERPs.

    5. He rides the waves of consumer interest (especially buying). How many of us really try to get a handle on whether our products are "hot" at the time we offer them?

    6. LMC gives his customers added value (coupons, special offers, etc). It's obvious to me that he has a "giving" attitude (even though I don't know him personally) as evidenced by this sharing here and all his followup question answering.


    [ Side note to newbies ]
    Have you ever wondered why so many of the "make money online" products rarely work for the purchaser even though the owner touts screenshots of fabulous income?

    A. You have to do the work - most people can never force themselves into consistent, persistent action like LMC has shown
    B. Success comes by executing specific details. Often, the product you purchased doesn't go into little details about the system ... look at this thread folks ... what is everybody asking about and why is the thread so long? ... people want to know the fine details of the execution and LMC is giving them!
    C. People are impatient - if LMC had bagged his strategy after a month or two or six, would he be sharing his success with us today? Hardly

    My formula for success: (1) a money-making strategy that truly has been proven to work where all the specific details are shared (like LMC's example) - AND - (2) an owner that puts in the investment, effort, attention to detail, and persistence that's needed. Sadly, for most would-be Internet entrepreneurs, either one or both of these essential ingredients is missing.
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    • Profile picture of the author sunnygal
      Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

      [ Side note to newbies ]
      Have you ever wondered why so many of the "make money online" products rarely work for the purchaser even though the owner touts screenshots of fabulous income?

      A. You have to do the work - most people can never force themselves into consistent, persistent action like LMC has shown
      B. Success comes by executing specific details.
      C. People are impatient
      Excellent analysis Steve.
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    • Profile picture of the author thaismr
      Originally Posted by Steve B View Post


      [ Side note to newbies ]
      Have you ever wondered why so many of the "make money online" products rarely work for the purchaser even though the owner touts screenshots of fabulous income?


      My formula for success: (1) a money-making strategy that truly has been proven to work where all the specific details are shared (like LMC's example) - AND - (2) an owner that puts in the investment, effort, attention to detail, and persistence that's needed. Sadly, for most would-be Internet entrepreneurs, either one or both of these essential ingredients is missing.
      I think there's more into it than that..

      If you'll all excuse me for taking this out of my system..:

      All products I've ever seen being marketed have a footnote stating that even if you follow their systems throughly, you may not make as much money as them and their testimonials, "if you even make any money at all".

      Additionally, they say that all testimonials in the sales page are from "exceptional results" and that buyers are not supposed to expect the same results from their efforts, even if they follow the system.

      And that's even true for sales letter where there were complaints about other products, who would state only 2%-4% of buyers would ever manage to earn a nice income from it. If it's not easy, not fast, not suitable for people with hard-working regular jobs already, those same people targeted by the sales letter, asking how much time they wished they could spend with their family, if it's not easy enough that a non-tech person will easily get it done. Then why all write all that hype in bold letters just to get our money - and worse, our time and our hopes?

      Me, I have enjoyed this thread A LOT, and AM VERY THANK FUL TO LMC and all others who helped with both questions and answers.

      It was all I needed to read, since I already know what Wordpress is, how to install, how to pay for hosting/domain, how to configure it all, how to log to cpanel, how to install autoresponders and their web forms, where to find themes, how to chose and customize your themes, how to design a header and how to upload it, which plugins to use and how to configure them, how to edit config.php files from cpanel when the plugin requies, how to take security measures (got several wp sites attacked -because I was used to Drupal and never had this problem with it - and only aftyer that went back to install security plugins on all 10 of them, quite a time spender), which pages are required to comply with Adsense's TOS. (tons more tasks could be listed here) Plus I have enough free time to do all that.

      I wonder how people with full time jobs ever get away with even reading this threads, I've been here for hours taking notes.


      Another thing is that people who are selling their products, unlike LMC, they sometimes try to terrorize you on their sales page. They hardly encourage you to take any action besides clicking the buy button; they list all the difficulties you would face unless you bought their product - which is so many pages long and has so many hours of videos, that you can hardly find any free time to put into working on your sites after you buy them.

      Besides, they will have upsells with expensive tools which, although they say on small print that "like we said, you don't need anything else besides our product, but.." - The upsell sales letter is written to make a sale, and it will tell you how hard it will be to get any work done right without that tool.

      All these steps instill fear, and our brain's response to fear is running away or freezing still. It's almost like those products were made to help you fail, so you'll need to buy another one later, instead of letting you free time and free mind/emotion to read a quality thread like this one and put it all into practice.

      Yes, everything in life requires work; but when you work hard (or not) at a regular job, you are guaranteed to get paid at the end of the month. When you follow a system like this one, there are no guarantees, even when you work hard - and how is one supposed to work HARD at two jobs at the same time? One that pays regularly and has a fixed amount of hours, and another one that constantly stress our minds with fear or tells us we have to cheat, lie, sell junk, spam, or promote online casino subscriptions - of course, all after we bought the product and read a 1hour long sales page trying to convince us that this method would be our only chance of success (all other methods were tried by the seller, with no success, remember? He will list those methods and tell you they are all dead, made him lose $xx,xxx money and x,xxx hours of family-time, discouraging you too look up more info about them elsewhere..)
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Ryan
      LMC,

      It's really nice that you've shared your business model with everyone, and continue to help out with everyone's questions.

      There is a lot of workable information here that person could apply and start seeing some results, as long as they stay focused.

      Thanks for sharing.

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  • Profile picture of the author DNChamp
    very nice post for sure.......LMC how do you compare what you do with using say Wp Robot. have you used it and how close is it to what you do by outsourcing?
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  • Profile picture of the author osamabindrinking
    @ LMC thanks for the multiple ip info, didn't know it was available!
    looks like you might have created an epic thread
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  • Profile picture of the author affiliatechick
    Awesome thread! I've been looking into doing something like this for awhile now and this has been the most indepth, forward "tutorial" I've come across!

    Whitehat is always a good thing too :-)

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  • Profile picture of the author osamabindrinking
    Sorry LMC more questions (it's your fault you started it) you said you have 5 analytic accounts with a 100 in each, does that mean you have a few hundred duds?
    Also coz of this thread and my paranoia Iv'e been buying domains instead of building sites and I found another 12 sweet domains, so thanks for that!
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  • Profile picture of the author JackPowers
    Build a lot of websites - check

    Outsource content creation - check

    Backlink websites - check

    Monetize - check

    I think I've heard about that business model before

    As usual, the devil and the profit is in the detail! What I take away from this thread is developing a system that works and the sticking to it.

    Thanks for sharing!
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    • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
      Originally Posted by JackPowers View Post

      As usual, the devil and the profit is in the detail!
      The devil is in actually doing the work and not nitpicking over this link vs. that link, this theme vs. theme, this plugin vs. that plugin, using WordPress or another content system, using Analytics or not, etc, etc.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
        Originally Posted by bgmacaw View Post

        The devil is in actually doing the work and not nitpicking over this link vs. that link, this theme vs. theme, this plugin vs. that plugin, using WordPress or another content system, using Analytics or not, etc, etc.
        Not nitpicking at all.

        Id much rather avoid if possible investing 18 months of my time, and a fair amount of money towards building a large network of websites, only to have them penalised by missing something that could've been answered here in a few minutes.
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        • Profile picture of the author imon32red
          Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

          Not nitpicking at all.

          Id much rather avoid if possible investing 18 months of my time, and a fair amount of money towards building a large network of websites, only to have them penalised by missing something that could've been answered here in a few minutes.
          I hear ya. Just had my adwords account suspended about 2 weeks ago. I started using adwords to promote Clickbank back in June. Anyways, I was clearing more than 1K profit a week. Google decided that a website that I promoted back in June didn't meet there quality standards. So two weeks ago they up and decided to disable my account. I write an email to them everyday trying to work it out, but they refuse to tell me what the exact problem was, and why my account can't be reinstated.

          The good news is that I still have my other IM income streams that pay my bills. The bad news is that I lost some decent spending money. I am starting to build these type of websites myself to replace that income. I found some really good information in this thread.

          For those of you that are newbies reading this, there is plenty of really good information here. One way that you can tell is that there are some more senior Warriors participating in the discussion. These are people making plenty of money without using these strategies. If they are paying attention, it wouldn't hurt you to do the same. That includes reading the entire thread, and probably more than once. I am not trying to come across condescendingly, I just want to point out that this is an important thread.
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          • Profile picture of the author BayAreaSteve
            Originally Posted by imon32red View Post

            I hear ya. Just had my adwords account suspended about 2 weeks ago. I started using adwords to promote Clickbank back in June. Anyways, I was clearing more than 1K profit a week. Google decided that a website that I promoted back in June didn't meet there quality standards. So two weeks ago they up and decided to disable my account. I write an email to them everyday trying to work it out, but they refuse to tell me what the exact problem was, and why my account can't be reinstated.

            The good news is that I still have my other IM income streams that pay my bills. The bad news is that I lost some decent spending money. I am starting to build these type of websites myself to replace that income. I found some really good information in this thread.

            For those of you that are newbies reading this, there is plenty of really good information here. One way that you can tell is that there are some more senior Warriors participating in the discussion. These are people making plenty of money without using these strategies. If they are paying attention, it wouldn't hurt you to do the same. That includes reading the entire thread, and probably more than once. I am not trying to come across condescendingly, I just want to point out that this is an important thread.
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            • Profile picture of the author imon32red
              Originally Posted by BayAreaSteve View Post

              Was this a web site that you built ?
              Nope. It went straight to a Clickbank sales page. I know that plenty of people will tell you that you cannot do this with adwords. If you read the agreement with adwords it is perfectly fine.
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                Originally Posted by imon32red View Post

                Nope. It went straight to a Clickbank sales page. I know that plenty of people will tell you that you cannot do this with adwords. If you read the agreement with adwords it is perfectly fine.
                But your account is closed? Baffling ...
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        • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
          Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

          Not nitpicking at all.

          Id much rather avoid if possible investing 18 months of my time, and a fair amount of money towards building a large network of websites, only to have them penalised by missing something that could've been answered here in a few minutes.
          Maybe you aren't but I've seen people around here and elsewhere nitpick over really trivial matters rather than taking action. If you wait for everything to be perfect you'll never get anything done. People sit around waiting for the perfect keywords, the perfect domain name, the perfect SEO strategy and end up doing nothing and making nothing. It's called "Analysis Paralysis"

          But, to answer your Analytics question, I've given my answer to the using Google Analytics thing several times here. I suggest that you don't use it on sites that aren't directly partnering with Google through Adsense or Adwords. It doesn't have anything to do with bans or penalties but instead regarding Google as a potential competitor with very deep pockets. You don't want to hand them your private business data to them in exchange for something you can do with most hosting accounts or do with a company with a better track record on privacy issues.
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          • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
            Originally Posted by adamcm View Post

            I'm wondering if now, late 2010, if you are still able to find EMD's with approx 900 exact searches per month.
            Dude, dont get hung up on EMD's. Having an EMD is great, but it wont be the ONLY contributing factor that will help in your rankings.


            Originally Posted by bgmacaw View Post

            Maybe you aren't but I've seen people around here and elsewhere nitpick over really trivial matters rather than taking action. If you wait for everything to be perfect you'll never get anything done. People sit around waiting for the perfect keywords, the perfect domain name, the perfect SEO strategy and end up doing nothing and making nothing. It's called "Analysis Paralysis"
            I see what you mean :rolleyes:


            BTW - LMC, Im still trying to figure out what "Brooklyn Style" is :p
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            • Profile picture of the author adamcm
              Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

              Dude, dont get hung up on EMD's. Having an EMD is great, but it wont be the ONLY contributing factor that will help in your rankings.
              Sorry, just read the first post of the thread and LMC had indicated "I target low to mid competition keywords, find or buy exact match keywords (as they do make a difference despite what you've been told). When i say exact match, I mean, Your keyword = www.yourkeyword.com".

              I have never had the luck of finding many which is why I asked how well people were making out. Perhaps I am not looking properly or as efficiently as others, that all i'm trying to get at...not getting hung up on it at all. I've been working on numerous websites in the mean time that don't have EMD's.

              Thanks.
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              • Profile picture of the author rizzy
                Originally Posted by adamcm View Post

                Sorry, just read the first post of the thread and LMC had indicated "I target low to mid competition keywords, find or buy exact match keywords (as they do make a difference despite what you've been told). When i say exact match, I mean, Your keyword = www.yourkeyword.com".

                I have never had the luck of finding many which is why I asked how well people were making out. Perhaps I am not looking properly or as efficiently as others, that all i'm trying to get at...not getting hung up on it at all. I've been working on numerous websites in the mean time that don't have EMD's.

                Thanks.
                EMD's are tough to find. It takes a lot of research and time, but they are still out there. It definitiley gets frustrating when domain after domain is squatted on. Just have to work through it.
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                • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
                  Originally Posted by rizzy View Post

                  EMD's are tough to find. It takes a lot of research and time, but they are still out there. It definitiley gets frustrating when domain after domain is squatted on. Just have to work through it.
                  Find out who owns the domain you want and ask them to sell it to you. Some you'll get lucky with, others you won't. No big deal.
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                  • Profile picture of the author rizzy
                    Originally Posted by yoyo View Post

                    can you explain in a bit of detail about your seo and how you are driving traffic.

                    do you mainly focus on seo and outsource it?

                    YoYo below are the answers to your questions. He already answered them in here.



                    Originally Posted by LMC View Post

                    Hey...

                    Could you tell us more about your backlinking strategy?

                    Backlinks are the #2 thing Google looks at, and is one of the most important factors to being ranked.

                    I can't tell you my backlink sources. However I will tell you this:
                    • The best backlink is a direct backlink from a website, not a profile, book mark, etc.
                    • I build as many as I need to beat my competition. I look at how many they have individually and then how many they have all together, and produce about that number to start
                    • In more competitive niches I produce more backlinks gradually after the initial flux.
                    Here is the most important thing
                    • The absolute best backlink for me has been getting into someones website's sidebar or footer. A direct (do-follow) link straight to my site with my anchor text.
                    Think why?

                    If you are on a blogs sidebar that has 200 posts, each individual single post STILL has that sidebar link on it. It's not just 1 backlink, but it is now 200.

                    ^^^^^^^^^
                    this is gold.
                    Originally Posted by LMC View Post

                    watkins,

                    There is maintenance, but I outsource it now.

                    Coupon codes do need to be adjusted, Sites do need to be updated at least once a month.

                    Mivka,

                    Market Samurai

                    Chris,

                    80% of this business model is outsourced.

                    I research the niche.
                    Decide on how to attack the market.
                    Buy domain names.
                    Choose the content type.

                    Outsource everything else.
                    Originally Posted by LMC View Post

                    corey,

                    I have a question though. Do you have any requirements for how many searches a term is getting per day?

                    I don't enter keywords that have less then 30-50 searches per day in the First Position of Google. You assume that in the first position you will receive between 45-50% naturally, obviously this is adjusted by your meta description.


                    Or do you simply find any product that you see has at least 1 search per day for and target that?

                    This would be a waste, you have to consider the following funnel:

                    Clickthrough from SERPS --> Your website conversion to advertiser --> Advertiser's conversion to sale.

                    For instance, I get 100 unique views, 28% of them click to my advertiser, so my advertiser is getting 28 unique views. They convert at 2% , so I may not see a sale with 100 uniques per day... My goal is to increase my conversion or increase my traffic to result in 100 uniques for the advertiser, thus producing 2 sales per day.


                    Im still a bit confused on how you manage to get traffic. I mean I struggle to get traffic to my clickbank products

                    All through Google.


                    How do you manage to get a sidelink backlink if you don't mind me asking?

                    This is my gold, I can't give it away sorry.

                    Also do you try to compete when each site on the first page has a lot of backlinks....

                    It depends on what type of backlinks, backlinks to the main domain, or backlinks throughout their pages.
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            Originally Posted by bgmacaw View Post

            Maybe you aren't but I've seen people around here and elsewhere nitpick over really trivial matters rather than taking action. If you wait for everything to be perfect you'll never get anything done. People sit around waiting for the perfect keywords, the perfect domain name, the perfect SEO strategy and end up doing nothing and making nothing. It's called "Analysis Paralysis"
            Thank you; now I know what to call my autobiography. Which I'll definitely write someday, when the time is right.
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            • Profile picture of the author manwalksintoabar
              Thanks LMC. Great info.

              I am just getting started with IM. When I look for products and check the competition in Market Samurai, it always includes big box stores with many thousands of backlinks and very high authority. They sell everything.

              You said "generally I'm looking for the green in Market Samurai, and SERP opportunity, such as low PR pages."

              Could you re-explain "SERP opportunity, such as low PR pages"?

              Does this mean the pages of the competition returned in Google's SERP's must have a low page rank? Or do you mean on the competition page of MS?

              Could you restate this? My brain hurts.

              I am looking forward to checking out your Halloween site when you release the URL. That will answer a lot of questions I have.

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  • Profile picture of the author kea55
    Hi LMC I was just wondering so is each page of your site...like sales page that points to a product or do you kind of write like blog style and spread text links throughout the blog posts. Just interested in how you set up the pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    kea,

    It's a wordpress website:

    Static home page Store Front
    Blog in the Side Bar
    With Opt-in Above the Blog
    A separate page for product comparisons
    One Page for an article
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    • Profile picture of the author drew3806
      Hi LMC,

      Just wondering on opt ins, how many different lists do you have? Do you opt similar type products into 1 list, or do you have a separate list for each web site?

      Thanks for the info, this is what I have envisioned but each site I have built has created more questions than answers, and I recently sold quite a few off.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pete Egeler
    LMC,

    Thanks so VERY much for this information.

    Any chance you might just slip in a link to one of your pages so we can see what the basic set up. ( I for one know ZERO about setting of anything other than the plain-Jane
    basic setup.)

    Pete
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  • LMC,

    Thanks tremendously for the info here. I believe this may have been asked already but I did not see an answer.

    Do you know of any wordpress templates that would work well with this system that are available for download or is that top secret info that you would have to kill me if you told me?
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  • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
    LMC,

    Great thread.

    What is the number you are targeting here...


    "I also will check the following in google:

    intitle:"my keyword" and inanchor:"my keyword"


    That above phrase will give you a X,XXX number, I find this to be my PURE competition, people targetting my keyword in their titles and content. People who understand Internet Marketing. The lower this is, the easier it is to rank.

    To be honest I would have to look at Google's tool and figure out the right calculation, i don't think they display PBR% so you would have to self figure out that ratio"
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  • Profile picture of the author bummed.out
    Thanks! This is one of the best things I've ever read about VRE.
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    • Profile picture of the author jdannels
      LMC...
      I want to truly say thanks for replying to everyone on here and telling us the truth in advertising online. To see all these offers of staggering amounts of money flying out the window seems too good to be true. But what you've offered is a realistic approach that shows not only that it can be done, but with patience, can be done by anyone of any age and background with some effort.

      Thanks for all of your hard work and thank you again for sharing your knowledge with us.
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      • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
        Awesome LMC!

        Thank you for sharing

        I recently got into a similar type of business model and have been stunned at how well it works, but also the huge amount of flexibility you have with this kind of model
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    • Profile picture of the author sellerscompanion
      This is a very interesting thread and a wealth of information. But, as others have pointed out, much has to do with being focused and consistent. Someone else's method may not work exactly the same way for you as there are so many other variables like quality of content, niches, etc. The key is formulate your own plan and work it CONSISTENTLY.
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  • Profile picture of the author Crew Chief
    I definitely take my hat off to LMC; he has represented the TRUE spirit of a TRUE Warrior by not only sharing but taking the time to answer a multitude of questions.

    Guys and gals, you pretty much just got your hands on a expensive and priceless WSO, with a degree of mentoring served on the side. Hopefully, you will appreciate the value of this gift... it is a rare diamond indeed.

    In the words of Warhawk Matt Scott...


    Just Do It!!!

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    • Profile picture of the author creativemind3
      Thanks for this posting the "Just do it video" with the guy in the wheelchair! I saved it in my favourites for whenever I get the feeling that I should give up!! I am determined to become successful at Internet Marketing!
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    And even if you do not want to follow this exact business model, allow it to be a kind of outline for what you want to do yourself.

    To really make it in this business you have got to, you have just GOT to invest time and energy and FOCUS following a business model to get going.

    Keep going, keep going. And don't stop until you have made it.

    Just keep on pushing...
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  • Profile picture of the author ocd
    LMC,

    Thank you for providing the board with such an excellent thread. I can't help but think that your technique is like burning the candle at both ends...it causes me to think big and little at the same time. $5 a day from one site and having 200 sites.

    WOW!
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    Asesome. Thanks again LMC!
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  • Profile picture of the author jmorris18
    Wow - some AMAZING information in this post. Thanks to LMC for taking the time to share these details. Warriors like LMC make this forum one of the best online.

    Thanks,
    Jason
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  • Profile picture of the author Cash37
    This is pretty much how to do mass scale seo. No bells and whistles just work and an investment required.
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  • Profile picture of the author Wide
    LMC; Where do you buy domains with privacy for that price (below 10)?
    Godaddy includes it with a bulk order but charge like 10/yr after that.
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    • Profile picture of the author George Chernikov
      Originally Posted by Wide View Post

      LMC; Where do you buy domains with privacy for that price (below 10)?
      Godaddy includes it with a bulk order but charge like 10/yr after that.
      Namecheap.
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  • Profile picture of the author kea55
    ok just can someone help me with this..lmc or anyone. dont' you get links in another websites sidebar just by asking the webmaster to trade links with you? Isn't this the kind of link he is talking about. I could just send out some emails right?
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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      Originally Posted by kea55 View Post

      ok just can someone help me with this..lmc or anyone. dont' you get links in another websites sidebar just by asking the webmaster to trade links with you? Isn't this the kind of link he is talking about. I could just send out some emails right?
      That's one way to do it.

      Being a guest author can do it.

      Giving away templates that have your link in can do it.

      This is old stuff and still relevant.

      Couple of fellow warriors and I worked on a script that does this - we called it 'parasitic' linking and took it a few steps further.

      Don't overthink this stuff - it's just common sense and creativity.

      You don't want someone else to tell you where to go and what to do - or you'll just be one of thousands of people going to the same place to do the same thing.

      Just use your brain and look around and you'll find there are LOTS!!!!!!! of places to do this easily.
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      • Profile picture of the author FredJones
        Brilliant thread.

        LMC, I have questions and suggestions for you - but unlike the ones that people have been asking/suggesting (though did not see much of suggestions as compared to questions).

        Your strategy is good. But, are you also doing the right thing to make all of this count? Are you branding yourself?

        Without giving anything away, what you are doing is something that is at a significantly and heavily larger scale of what I do, but your scale is something that I plan to reach - have been working on it on and off for the last 1 year now. The main difference is - rightly or wrongly - I am building a brand and that is taking me more time.

        However, what is your brand? Hints for you, have you ever looked at the share of direct traffic that big boys receive?

        You have made a great start in terms of getting somewhere. Money-wise you are high up in the sky. Now take your great work to the next level. Maybe your position is the right time to start building brand rather than mine. Currently you are adding monetary value. If you can, add brand positioning value to it over the next 5-10 years. You shall receive a mindshare that is unthinkable to you today.

        Really, I mean it.
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  • Profile picture of the author kea55
    oh and Lmc, when you update your sites...what are you doing? Are you adding blog posts? Im asking because I find that when i stop posting content to my site it like stops getting visitors, but I've heard that for these storefront sites you shouldnt need to constantly post content. Anyone else can chime in if you like. Oh and Andyhenry...so glad you're on here...I love all your posts that preach hard work not buying some get quick fix products
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    Thanks for all the comments,

    KEa I update the sites based on what people are searching to get to me.
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  • Profile picture of the author DNChamp
    not sure if you saw my question due to the popularity of this thread but is WP Robot part of your process at all OR its just outsourcing content and posting?
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    • Profile picture of the author WildGale
      Thanks for the encouragement, LMC. We've started doing something similar but we built quite a few sites right out of the gate. They are ranking pretty well, but none at #1 yet and so our income is pitiful. Our focus is on the ranking at this point. It's nice to know that it may all work out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fun to Write
    I like that you understand the psychology angle of people visiting your site. Most just put up a bunch of words that don't connect emotionally with the prospective buyer. Seems like you've mastered this part.
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  • Profile picture of the author gtree
    hey this post has helped and i will follow ur strategy...but no outsourcing i can do it by myself...
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  • Profile picture of the author sparckyz
    Given me some good ideas and things to think about, and also how to use opt-ins for when i eventually get round to them
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  • Profile picture of the author SoEasyMoney
    If you would be gracious enough to guide me, I'd certainly appreciate it. I love the research part of the entire process but am not good at or like building the actual site, etc. I have an accounting degree so I am a numbers cruncher by nature.

    What I'm curious about is how you find people to outsource to? Do you give the entire project to just one person or is it multiple people that you use? I don't care to throw the money out there but really am not sure what I even need to ask for. Do you happen to have a template of what you provide to your workers?

    Any guidance will be much appreciated. Thanks so much for sharing!
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    • Profile picture of the author tonywarrior2
      Hi LMC

      thanks for sharing this. It's great info.

      My question is: how do you manage all those domains and hosting packages? Do you use a specific software package? Or do you use Excel?

      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Wide
        Originally Posted by tonywarrior2 View Post

        Hi LMC

        thanks for sharing this. It's great info.

        My question is: how do you manage all those domains and hosting packages? Do you use a specific software package? Or do you use Excel?

        Thanks
        Tony
        I use Google Docs (excel) for mine.
        Works great.
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    tonywarrior,

    I designed an interface in Visual Basic, that displays all my websites, the day they were last updated, the current rank, and current sales volume.

    keep it simple.

    For outsourcing, I find them through places such as elance and hire people from craigslist. Generally I have an understand of how much money I can spend, so it's not about how much it is going to cost, as long as it fits in my budget I will consider it.

    Then I check quantity.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
      Originally Posted by LMC View Post

      I designed an interface in Visual Basic, that displays all my websites, the day they were last updated, the current rank, and current sales volume.
      Theres a saleable product right there
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      • LMC your the man!!! I have always sold info products and never even thought that selling tangible goods would be profitable. Since reading your first post a few days ago, I have bought a few domains, signed up for CJ, and put together some basic websites. Within the first 2 hours that my site was up I made 2 sales. I am going to focus on getting ranked. Now I just have to keep going and try and catch up with you. haha yeah right.

        thanks again for these golden nuggetsof info
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    • Profile picture of the author mathmo
      Originally Posted by LMC View Post

      tonywarrior,

      I designed an interface in Visual Basic, that displays all my websites, the day they were last updated, the current rank, and current sales volume.

      keep it simple.
      Nice, just what I would do if was in your shoes (which I think I will be doing... quite inspiring read this. With one exception... I will not use VB! :rolleyes.

      Where do you see yourself going from here with your website?

      For instance if I was you an example which springs to mind, as I just replied about your little program, is I'd extend the interface to plot a bunch of graphs.

      So you can then see where your outliers are, and bring them back into the fold for the under performing outliers and identify why the over performing outliers are over performing to bring that goodness to the rest of the sites.

      Graphing time since latest updated vs revenue would be just one example of a simple 2D graph. As I imagine most of your sites are clustered around the same fuzzy blob or line, be much easier to identify the ones going wrong than simply looking at the lowest revenue sites or the ones which have gone the longest since being updated.

      Or are you already using graphs?
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris30K
    From experience, this method works like a charm, I want to ultimately build up a huge network of keyword websites like this and sell it. The crazy thing is,if the owner were to sell his network of blogs, it would EASILY be a 7 figure pay day.
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    how long did this take you?
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  • Profile picture of the author West2010
    Very inspiring post! Thank you for the information!
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeey
    Hi LMC

    Great stuff here. I like your backlinking method right there. I was a member of yours over at eweblicense and this was the stuff that you were going to teach us. I know this would of been amazing and it was such a shame things didnt progress with the training over there.

    Your backlinking method is something i have been looking to do but for those types of backlinks the prices are big. Some webmasters with a PR5 site are asking for alot more than a few dollars . So do you have your own network of sites that have good PR that you can drop your links onto?
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    • Profile picture of the author Sam England
      LMC,

      Thanks for all the killer info that you have shared on this thread...and everyone else who have also commented.

      My business is actually in Ecommerce and I make a good living with it, but a few months ago I ventured on doing exactly what you do...so I built about 40 Wordpress sites, loaded a little bit of content, affiliate links, ebay feeds, etc...pretty basic stuff, nothing fancy...I got to where I can put one together in a few hours easily...

      It may take a few days or a few weeks but the money does come in if you do it right...wait a few weeks and tweak them, that really helps...tweak them...

      That being said, everyone.. this S$$T works, you just have to be creative and put a little work into it...NOTHING COMES FOR FREE!

      Thanks again LMC for all the cool stuff you have talked about...peace out...
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    Do you do any autobloging?
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      • Profile picture of the author dsiomtw
        Originally Posted by snapcontent View Post

        Has anyone asked him the question yet as to how long he gives a domain before deciding it's a dead duck and flipping it, or does he never sell domains?
        I can't imagine he's terribly worried about recouping his $100 invested on a dead duck ... most likely he's focusing on the 10 new sites he's creating. I'm guessing his time is worth too much to hassle with selling domains for $100 - although he might have outsourced this part too lol
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      • Profile picture of the author Wide
        Originally Posted by snapcontent View Post

        .. him the question yet as to how long he gives a domain before deciding it's a dead duck and flipping it, or does he never sell domains?
        Good question
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    mikeey,

    Thanks for the comments about the coaching, it took a deep toll in my work, and so I had to abandon it temporarily.

    To answer your question, I buy the links from special resources.

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    I don't autoblog.
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  • Profile picture of the author dsiomtw
    Aside from things like Halloween costume sites, etc. are most of your sites evergreen or do they have a relatively short life and you are constantly creating new sites just to keep up?
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  • Profile picture of the author tecHead
    ... just my 2ยข, but if you do your market penetration research well enough.. there really should be no reason you have "dead ducks", at all.

    There's way too much data available to make a costly mistake, like that. Not saying its impossible, but this business model is a whole lot safer than playing the stock market and there are investors that carry a pretty solid win margin... all based on their research prior to buying any shares.

    So... research is key and LMC already stated that he does about 2hrs of research per day. I tend to do that and more, as well.

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  • Profile picture of the author onlinebisnes
    Great sharing there LMC.
    VRE indeed a good profitable business if you are on the right track.
    I find its hard to sell tangiable products as you need to complete with many established merchant out there.
    Good to know you break the ice and get all the work in your finger tip.
    I bet you will be sharing the details as it will be your biggest secret as long as you eager to earn money online.
    But sharing success story always help increasing motivation to others.
    Thanks.
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  • Originally Posted by LMC View Post

    ]When i say exact match, I mean, Your keyword = www.yourkeyword.com

    No stop words, no the, e, blog, online, NO prefixes or suffixes.
    Have you tested using an additional word with the keyword string or just always avoided it? Not one of the above words, but maybe an additional word to sort of brand your site while getting around the fact that the keyword string was taken? Thanks again, LMC.
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    dru,

    Never experimented with that, always gone exact match, and if I can't get it, I analyze to see if it is profitable to buy it. In some cases I have bought domain names from BuyDomains at a remarkable mark up, however, I knew the name would produce consistent $50-$100 days

    It's all about research
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    • Profile picture of the author DNChamp
      Originally Posted by LMC View Post

      dru,

      Never experimented with that, always gone exact match, and if I can't get it, I analyze to see if it is profitable to buy it. In some cases I have bought domain names from BuyDomains at a remarkable mark up, however, I knew the name would produce consistent $50-$100 days

      It's all about research
      If you ever need exact match domains for new projects PM me before BuyDomains LOL....Wholesale prices here
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Im actually continually surprised at how cheap domain owners will sell off exact match domains. I always do a whois, find who has it and send them an email asking if they'd be interested in selling. Doesnt always work, but usually worth a try.
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    • Profile picture of the author drmani
      @LMC -

      Thank you. Just thank you (to the n'th power, though!)

      All success
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      • Profile picture of the author drmani
        On 18th October 2010, I read this thread - and posted a short 'thank you' (msg #198)

        Originally Posted by drmani View Post

        @LMC -

        Thank you. Just thank you (to the n'th power, though!)

        All success
        Dr.Mani
        Now, I'm sharing this for inspiration - and to get you focused on
        TAKING ACTION.

        Since reading this thread and modifying some plans I had
        already put into motion, I've built...

        17 NICHE SITES

        That's over 17 days.

        You?



        All success
        Dr.Mani

        P.S. - If you're still THINKING about the idea, STOP.

        Now.

        EVERYTHING you need is in this thread. But that alone will
        NOT make you rich!
        Do something with what LMC has so
        graciously and generously shared. Start today.

        P.P.S. - Since I'm testing, very little of this is outsourced.
        Only parts of the article writing, as of now! Get BUSY

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        • Profile picture of the author hyderkhan
          Hey everyone,

          For what it's worth, I thought I would share, for inspirational purposes, as well:

          In the past 10 days, I have successfully built out 3 niche websites, following the action plan as described in this thread. Not as aggressive as one site per day or 5 sites per week, but it's a start, since I'm not outsourcing anything, and I'm doing this on a very part time basis for now. I've already begun building back links for these sites. Funny thing is, one of my sites has already become ranked #9 for the domain name / key phrase, with just the default wordpress hello world page on it, before I even had a chance to build out the site or do any back linking!

          Even if I can only deploy 5 to 10 sites per month, that is still way way way better than not taking any action at all.

          Thanks again to LMC.

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          Originally Posted by drmani View Post

          On 18th October 2010, I read this thread - and posted a short 'thank you' (msg #198)



          Now, I'm sharing this for inspiration - and to get you focused on
          TAKING ACTION.

          Since reading this thread and modifying some plans I had
          already put into motion, I've built...

          17 NICHE SITES

          That's over 17 days.

          You?



          All success
          Dr.Mani

          P.S. - If you're still THINKING about the idea, STOP.

          Now.

          EVERYTHING you need is in this thread. But that alone will
          NOT make you rich!
          Do something with what LMC has so
          graciously and generously shared. Start today.

          P.P.S. - Since I'm testing, very little of this is outsourced.
          Only parts of the article writing, as of now! Get BUSY

          .
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        • Profile picture of the author Tom Ryan
          Originally Posted by drmani View Post

          On 18th October 2010, I read this thread - and posted a short 'thank you' (msg #198)



          Now, I'm sharing this for inspiration - and to get you focused on
          TAKING ACTION.

          Since reading this thread and modifying some plans I had
          already put into motion, I've built...

          17 NICHE SITES

          That's over 17 days.

          You?



          All success
          Dr.Mani

          P.S. - If you're still THINKING about the idea, STOP.

          Now.

          EVERYTHING you need is in this thread. But that alone will
          NOT make you rich!
          Do something with what LMC has so
          graciously and generously shared. Start today.

          P.P.S. - Since I'm testing, very little of this is outsourced.
          Only parts of the article writing, as of now! Get BUSY

          .
          This is what it is all about right here. He read the info and immediately began putting it into action. This is when you begin to see results.

          Way to go Dr.Mani
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  • Hey LMC,
    I hope I'm not taking up too much of your time dragging answers out of you, but I'm in the middle of setting up my first one of these sites right now. This is how you explained the layout of your sites:

    "Static home page Store Front
    Blog in the Side Bar
    With Opt-in Above the Blog
    A separate page for product comparisons
    One Page for an article"

    Obviously, I don't need to do mine is exactly like yours and I can figure out a lot of this on my own, but I've got a few questions, if you don't mind.

    1. Do you always start out doing comparisons between products on your page or do you just focus on one if you've found a company that offers an awesome commission and awesome product?

    2. You mentioned before that you had a bit of a sales page, where you honed in on your market and targeted emotions associated with the product. But above, you mention that you have a static store as your home page. when I think of static store, I think of a section of photos showing the products with short descriptions and prices. Can you elaborate?

    3. What's are you doing with the "one page with article"? (this one is just out of curiosity, really)

    Thanks!
    James
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    James,

    Sending you a link to review one of my sites.
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    • Originally Posted by LMC View Post

      James,

      Sending you a link to review one of my sites.
      Wow, that's really above and beyond. Can't thank you enough on that one.

      Cheers,
      James
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    • Profile picture of the author AmarieP
      Hi LMC,

      Great Post! I think this is a very good business model. Would you mine if I could review one of your sites also?

      Thank you!
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    • Profile picture of the author derh
      Hate to ask as well... but do you mind if i could also get a link to one of your sites??

      Thanks
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      LMC; Will it be okay if we contact some of the people who already received the link to get it? I imagine your inboxing being pretty busy atm.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dwight Anthony
      Hi LMC, awesome info. in this thread. Anyway you could PM the same link below? Thanks


      Originally Posted by LMC View Post

      James,

      Sending you a link to review one of my sites.
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      • Profile picture of the author rizzy
        Originally Posted by danthony View Post

        Hi LMC, awesome info. in this thread. Anyway you could PM the same link below? Thanks
        Please tell me this is a joke.
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    • Thanks so much for sharing your experience with us, LMC.
      I've read every single post of yours in this thread and got quite a few golden nuggets out of them, but of course, there are still a few questions that remain, primarily with the site structure/preselling pages that get you such high conversion rates.

      Your product reviews probably don't follow the generic review template of a few categories and rating stars?
      Also, I can't make sense of your 1 page that contains an "article". Either this is an optimized one just for seo purposes, but the way you build your sites, I highly doubt it.

      I guess it's rather to presell your customers and probably includes what you referred to earlier, what kind of customer this product is for etc. I'd really love to see such a piece of copywriting from you!

      But then again, such a piece probably belongs to the frontpage of the site, where you claim to have a static store page, and I have the same picture in my mind as dru-man: a section of photos showing products with short descriptions and prices. Wrong?

      However, I can perfectly understand that you don't want to send out any more links. You did a lot with this thread and I thank you for it.
      Still, I have to admit that I'm looking forward to november, where you hopefully will reveal your halloween site Really just want to see a site of yours that's so successfull.

      Again, thank you and since it's already the 31st over here, I wish you lots of costume sales for today!

      Cheers,
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  • Profile picture of the author lisaann
    If I can provide one piece of advice for those of you planning to duplicate this method it would be not to take LMS's success as your own. Meaning, don't go out and buy 100's or even dozens of domain names outsource content, and build backlinks hoping that in 3 months you'll be earning a lot of money.

    Instead make sure you can duplicate this before you 'mass produce'. You can't take someone else's success as your own. It's not.

    You've really got to make sure you're earning with your way of doing things.

    I just think this is a great thread and with all the people reading this, I bet there's already a few who've run off to 'mass produce' a network like this and it could turn out a real money drain for them.

    Just saying you want to make sure you're doing it right before you run off and do that.

    I know I've posted of my success with content publishing on my blog and on this forum before and people do the same thing. They start out with high volume, spend $1,000's and then I feel bad when later they're earning nothing. Hoping maybe to spare someone of that.

    It's a great thread, very motivating and full of great information, but just make sure you see some success first, then scale it up.

    Lisa
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    • Profile picture of the author Eager2SEO
      Originally Posted by lisaann View Post

      If I can provide one piece of advice for those of you planning to duplicate this method it would be not to take LMS's success as your own. Meaning, don't go out and buy 100's or even dozens of domain names outsource content, and build backlinks hoping that in 3 months you'll be earning a lot of money.

      Instead make sure you can duplicate this before you 'mass produce'. You can't take someone else's success as your own. It's not.

      You've really got to make sure you're earning with your way of doing things.

      I just think this is a great thread and with all the people reading this, I bet there's already a few who've run off to 'mass produce' a network like this and it could turn out a real money drain for them.

      Just saying you want to make sure you're doing it right before you run off and do that.

      I know I've posted of my success with content publishing on my blog and on this forum before and people do the same thing. They start out with high volume, spend $1,000's and then I feel bad when later they're earning nothing. Hoping maybe to spare someone of that.

      It's a great thread, very motivating and full of great information, but just make sure you see some success first, then scale it up.

      Lisa
      Good advice.

      I would test his theory on one or two sites, NEVER invest tons of money in something unless you are sure.

      From my limited experience I can see some light from this:

      #1 = He is a businessman, he can see markets, niches, demand etc. Many people were asking in the thread how ... and he mentioned ebay pulse. I'm sure he has many other ways... Again there is the business touch of what works and what don't.

      That is a major skill. Market Samurai, Adwords, etc is a tool. I can give you the best text editor on the planet but would that make you a php programmer? Could you write wordpress? If I ship you $10K of Dewalt tools from Amazon can you build a house?
      I don't know if this is something that you can learn. I think this holds back many new marketers who are failing. Do you realize how many hours you will waste if you don't build on this foundation?

      #2 = He also knows the psychology of selling, what converts, what attracts customers. Again, this is something that either you learn by trial and error or from the guru that you got your info from. Some people just have a knack for it.

      #3 = Probably the air in Brooklyn makes him think that way, I should move back there.

      I still would love to see one of his sites, even if its just a screenshot
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  • Profile picture of the author traderjoe
    What a great post. The linking strategy and the price you pay for links is phenomenal.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vecwun
    Yo L to da M to da C

    your post inspired me to join a try and set up my own thing but i have a ton of question because im brand spanking new at this...i got question about backlinking and item selling...is there a way to send you a private msg or something? thx for all the info on this page...you have open my eyes to what i thought wasnt possible
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  • Profile picture of the author tragictrip
    LMC, what a phenomenal thread! Congratulations on your success. You've inspired me to take action and start my own VRE.

    I am heeding the advice above and I'm going to test this model out with, say, 5 sites or so before I scale things up.

    I have a couple of questions and I would really appreciate if you could take some time to answer them.

    1. How do you determine what's an acceptable level of competition for a keyword before you give it the green light? I understand that its the strength of the competition on the first page, rather than the number of competing sites that is important. Since you use Market Samurai, do you look out for "all green" in the SEO Competition module? If not, whats the passing criteria for a keyword?

    2. The only article you have on each site is an article that accomodates to the emotional and psychological aspects of your customers? Do you have articles on each product page describing the pros and cons of the products?

    It would be really awesome if you could PM me a link to one of your sites so I could see for myself