What Does This Mean,Over Saturation?

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I have had my first Internet Marketing Experience ,though all I did initially was read and read ebooks until i decided to take action

But that action seem to be a big mistake.... though not so sure.

the niche is a reverse phone look up and I made only one sale in june another sale in august but was refunded and till now no sale... i have had 42 articles written and still no sale. from my feedjit widget, i realized that visitor have visited the merchant site through my link but did not purchase and this has happened more than 7 times.

what does this mean, over-saturated niche or what?

please suggestion is needed
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Originally Posted by jideofor View Post

    I have had my first Internet Marketing Experience ,though all I did initially was read and read ebooks until i decided to take action

    But that action seem to be a big mistake.... though not so sure.

    the niche is a reverse phone look up and I made only one sale in june another sale in august but was refunded and till now no sale... i have had 42 articles written and still no sale. from my feedjit widget, i realized that visitor have visited the merchant site through my link but did not purchase and this has happened more than 7 times.

    what does this mean, over-saturated niche or what?

    please suggestion is needed

    Over-saturated is a term people use when they don't understand the reasons for failure...

    I know someone here at the WF who makes decent money in the same niche you are in... So it would not be right to say it is saturated...

    It is really hard to say...

    There are so many places you can go wrong with article marketing... And it is not something I can actually answer easily... I have posted on my website a list of things that can derail your article marketing activities... You can see that here: FAQ #7: How Many Will Publish My Article - thePhantomWriters.com

    The problem could also be your landing page or its sales copy... Once again, it could be more factors that we could possible compute quickly and easily...
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  • Profile picture of the author DrewClement
    Yes you are correct.

    The sky is falling, and each market is becoming extremely over-saturated.

    Get offline while you still can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    There is simply no more money to be made...
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    • Profile picture of the author jideofor
      Originally Posted by DrewClement View Post

      Yes you are correct.

      The sky is falling, and each market is becoming extremely over-saturated.

      Get offline while you still can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      There is simply no more money to be made...
      So you mean that people no longer make money online?
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      • Profile picture of the author George Wright
        Originally Posted by jideofor View Post

        So you mean that people no longer make money online?
        Sad but true.
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by jideofor View Post

        So you mean that people no longer make money online?
        No ... bit of sarcasm, I believe.

        Oversaturation means that a lot of people are in that niche. Personally, I prefer low competition niches myself. Don't have to work as hard. Choose a highly saturated niche and you will be competing with a lot of other marketers for Google ranking and sales. Choose a low competition niche that has a profitable product to promote and you can get to the #1 position in Google without too much trouble and effort. That's just my opinion, and I'm sure others have different ones.
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      • Profile picture of the author DrewClement
        Originally Posted by jideofor View Post

        So you mean that people no longer make money online?
        Well I certainly havent made any money online yet. Have you??!?!?
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        • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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          Originally Posted by DrewClement View Post

          Well I certainly havent made any money online yet. Have you??!?!?
          Try not to discourage other people who are trying to accomplish something based purely on your own experience.

          I have made money online. In fact, this has been my only income for over 11 years. It supports me. Many others in this forum have made money online and some are making an absolute killing. I just make a good living.
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          • Profile picture of the author DrewClement
            Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

            Try not to discourage other people who are trying to accomplish something based purely on your own experience.

            I have made money online. In fact, this has been my only income for over 11 years. It supports me. Many others in this forum have made money online and some are making an absolute killing. I just make a good living.

            That hurts Suzanne........


            Should I still apologize for my rudeness even though the OP has now repeatedly demonstrated his vast insights and the true value he brings to the forum?
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            • Profile picture of the author jideofor
              Originally Posted by DrewClement View Post

              That hurts Suzanne........


              Should I still apologize for my rudeness even though the OP has now repeatedly demonstrated his vast insights and the true value he brings to the forum?
              its okay... You dont have to apologize. I am a Nigerian actually. I am trying make things right even when the outside world perceive us as SCAMMERS!
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            • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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              Originally Posted by DrewClement View Post

              That hurts Suzanne........


              Should I still apologize for my rudeness even though the OP has now repeatedly demonstrated his vast insights and the true value he brings to the forum?
              He has 41 posts and is a NOOBIE. What kind of insights are you expecting? This forum is packed full of people who bring nothing to the forum but themselves. Hopefully, they all learn from us and become contributing members and make some money too.

              It's up to him in the long run. He can just fail and blame others or he can learn to be successful, but I'm giving the benefit of the doubt until proof otherwise hits me in the face.
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              • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
                Saturation is a term people use who are too lazy to do the work required in
                order to compete in the niche of their choice.
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                • Profile picture of the author King Shiloh
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                  I laugh when I see my fellow Nigerians state about how frustrated they are because things are not working so fast the way they thought.

                  There's no money-making magic button as far as IM is concerned.

                  Something must be wrong with your article marketing strategy. Please listen to what tpw told you.

                  There's no good niche that is void of competition. It is natural, very natural.

                  By the way, I would like to see a link to your articles because writing 1000 articles is one thing but writing just 1 well-written article that converts is a different game altogether.

                  There's a difference between an article writer and an article marketer.
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              • Profile picture of the author stephenxanders
                Yes there are several niche in the internet but almost all of them are saturated already which simply means that there are existing marketers taking up it's market share.

                However, I do believe that any person can still earn even in a over saturated market. It highly depends on how he carries himself as a marketer. A niche may probably has thousands of marketers, but if you could offer if not the best, at least of the the best, then you can still assure that you'll make more money than others.

                It depends on your STYLE!
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        • Profile picture of the author jideofor
          Originally Posted by DrewClement View Post

          Well I certainly havent made any money online yet. Have you??!?!?
          yeah. didnt you read my post well?
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          • Profile picture of the author jideofor
            I think I will just have to sell the site off to some =one who can mange it with a good seo skill.
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          • Profile picture of the author tpw
            Originally Posted by jideofor View Post

            its okay... You dont have to apologize. I am a Nigerian actually. I am trying make things right even when the outside world perceive us as SCAMMERS!
            I could care less if you are from Nigeria...

            Many of your countrymen may be considered scammers, but until you prove me wrong, you are a human being with goals and dreams and the potential to make your life awesome...

            One of my best friends here in town was born and raised in Nigeria and immigrated to the United States when he was 14... Now he is a running coach at the local University...



            Originally Posted by jideofor View Post

            yeah. didnt you read my post well?
            Dude... Several people have responded to you, but you seem to have focused in on the only storyline that you wanted to see as the real truth...

            My buddy Drew is being a smart ass...

            And you want to believe that your failure is not your responsibility...

            If the reason for your failure was because the market is over-saturated, then you don't have to look in the mirror at yourself or examine more closely what you have done wrong in this initial attempt to make money online...

            I know it is easier to live in denial than to learn from failure...

            I know this...

            I also know that many of us failed many times, before learning how to really be successful...

            We were willing to look in the mirror at ourselves, to figure out what WE had done wrong... And we were willing to analyze our early failures to learn where WE could do it right next time around...

            The only question that remains for me is whether you intend to blame market saturation OR learn from your experience so that one day you will be successful...

            Only you can answer that question in your actions...

            We can educate you... That is ONLY 25% of what is required to be successful...

            But you must bring the other 75% to the table -- 25% effort, 25% determination, and 25% sticktoitiveness...

            Only YOU can bring 75% of the tools needed for success to the table...

            So, do you possess the other 75%, OR have I wasted my breath...
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            • Profile picture of the author jideofor
              Originally Posted by tpw View Post

              Dude... Several people have responded to you, but you seem to have focused in on the only storyline that you wanted to see as the real truth...

              My buddy Drew is being a smart ass...

              And you want to believe that your failure is not your responsibility...

              If the reason for your failure was because the market is over-saturated, then you don't have to look in the mirror at yourself or examine more closely what you have done wrong in this initial attempt to make money online...

              I know it is easier to live in denial than to learn from failure...

              I know this...

              I also know that many of us failed many times, before learning how to really be successful...

              We were willing to look in the mirror at ourselves, to figure out what WE had done wrong... And we were willing to analyze our early failures to learn where WE could do it right next time around...

              The only question that remains for me is whether you intend to blame market saturation OR learn from your experience so that one day you will be successful...

              Only you can answer that question in your actions...

              We can educate you... That is ONLY 25% of what is required to be successful...

              But you must bring the other 75% to the table -- 25% effort, 25% determination, and 25% sticktoitiveness...

              Only YOU can bring 75% of the tools needed for success to the table...

              So, do you possess the other 75%, OR have I wasted my breath...
              Thanks for your comment so far. You dont seem to understand that I am working and not just making some lazy things. I have been using article marketing and yahoo answers for my traffic generation andI also have a good review on my site. I am new to internet marketing.

              Your friend may be pulling in cash probably because he has more experience on the game. He may be outsourcing, which I do not have the money for at the moment.

              If you where in my shoe and you keep writing the articles and answering quiestion, people visit your site and on more than 7 times they visit your merchant site through your link but did not purchase,what will you do?
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              • Profile picture of the author tpw
                Originally Posted by jideofor View Post

                Thanks for your comment so far. You dont seem to understand that I am working and not just making some lazy things. I have been using article marketing and yahoo answers for my traffic generation andI also have a good review on my site. I am new to internet marketing.

                Your friend may be pulling in cash probably because he has more experience on the game. He may be outsourcing, which I do not have the money for at the moment.

                If you where in my shoe and you keep writing the articles and answering quiestion, people visit your site and on more than 7 times they visit your merchant site through your link but did not purchase,what will you do?

                I would instruct you to start with the Free Ebook shown in my signature below...

                You have to know if you are doing article marketing in a way that holds real potential for you, or doing article marketing in the way that so many who continue to fail insist that it must be done...

                Are you going to take your advice from someone who has been successful or someone who has nothing but failure to back up his opinions...

                It could very well be that the way you have been doing your article marketing is doomed to fail...

                But you are not going to know that, unless you have real knowledge as your guide...

                I am offering my knowledge to you for free...

                Get the free ebook and read it...

                Then YOU will know if your 42 articles were a waste, or if the problem resides elsewhere...

                The first part of troubleshooting any problem is to eliminate what is right from your considerations, so that you can more quickly find what is wrong...
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                • Profile picture of the author jideofor
                  Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                  I would instruct you to start with the Free Ebook shown in my signature below...

                  You have to know if you are doing article marketing in a way that holds real potential for you, or doing article marketing in the way that so many who continue to fail insist that it must be done...

                  Are you going to take your advice from someone who has been successful or someone who has nothing but failure to back up his opinions...

                  It could very well be that the way you have been doing your article marketing is doomed to fail...

                  But you are not going to know that, unless you have real knowledge as your guide...

                  I am offering my knowledge to you for free...

                  Get the free ebook and read it...

                  Then YOU will know if your 42 articles were a waste, or if the problem resides elsewhere...

                  The first part of troubleshooting any problem is to eliminate what is right from your considerations, so that you can more quickly find what is wrong...

                  Thanks for the ebook, i will go over it by morning cos it is 4:27 am in Nigeria. My head is spinning at now. Thanks for the time you spent on commenting on my thread. God Bless You
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            • Profile picture of the author Joe Benjamin
              Originally Posted by tpw View Post

              I could care less if you are from Nigeria...

              Many of your countrymen may be considered scammers, but until you prove me wrong, you are a human being with goals and dreams and the potential to make your life awesome...

              One of my best friends here in town was born and raised in Nigeria and immigrated to the United States when he was 14... Now he is a running coach at the local University...





              Dude... Several people have responded to you, but you seem to have focused in on the only storyline that you wanted to see as the real truth...

              My buddy Drew is being a smart ass...

              And you want to believe that your failure is not your responsibility...

              If the reason for your failure was because the market is over-saturated, then you don't have to look in the mirror at yourself or examine more closely what you have done wrong in this initial attempt to make money online...

              I know it is easier to live in denial than to learn from failure...

              I know this...

              I also know that many of us failed many times, before learning how to really be successful...

              We were willing to look in the mirror at ourselves, to figure out what WE had done wrong... And we were willing to analyze our early failures to learn where WE could do it right next time around...

              The only question that remains for me is whether you intend to blame market saturation OR learn from your experience so that one day you will be successful...

              Only you can answer that question in your actions...

              We can educate you... That is ONLY 25% of what is required to be successful...

              But you must bring the other 75% to the table -- 25% effort, 25% determination, and 25% sticktoitiveness...

              Only YOU can bring 75% of the tools needed for success to the table...

              So, do you possess the other 75%, OR have I wasted my breath...
              9 times out of 10, you've wasted your breath.

              It is the rare soul who will look deep within themselves and
              find out for themSELVES what you've said is the truth. But,
              few people can allow their ego to "make way" for what they
              already KNOW is the truth...

              so they'll roll with their excuses until the day they die.

              As natural as it is to be in denial, it's NOT as natural not to.

              We ALL deal with our faults, mistakes, and having to own up
              to them by looking in the mirror. The difference between you
              and I is that we face them quickly and take action to rectify
              our mistakes until we eventually DO have success.

              You gave it a good shot, but don't even bother responding
              to the OP.

              I learned something from what you've said, and I know others
              have as well. That's more than good enough.
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    • Profile picture of the author jideofor
      Originally Posted by DrewClement View Post

      Yes you are correct.

      The sky is falling, and each market is becoming extremely over-saturated.

      Get offline while you still can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      There is simply no more money to be made...
      So you mean that people no longer make money online?
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  • Profile picture of the author dkoski
    I would not give in so easily, especially if you do not know why you are not succeeding. Making money on the internet is like anything else, it takes practice. You need to look at all kinds of things that could be wrong, such as, the wrong type of traffic, not enough traffic, ineffective landing page to name just a few.
    I am not saying you should or should not sell your site, but what you might want to consider doing is learning how to let's say drive quality traffic first. One way to do this is to find a product on maybe clickbank, and then practice driving targeted traffic to one of their product's pre built sales pages. (You can earn and learn at the same time.) Find a product that is converting well for others so you know the only variable will be the quality of the traffic you send to it. It is like putting training wheels on a bicycle when you first are learning.
    Once you learn how to drive quality traffic (and it could take a while) you move onto learning how to create an effective landing page yourself and so on... With so little experience you have too many variables to overcome and try to figure out on your own. Clickbank is a good place to start if you are new.
    Just a thought hope that helps...
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  • Profile picture of the author moneymarker
    Oversaturation? Not sure if that exist in my dictionary....cultivate the art of flexibility and creativity and you'll banish the word from your own dictionary as well...regardless if your neighbor or everyone's neighbor is selling the same widgets as you're selling...
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  • Profile picture of the author PoweWhey
    to find a less competitive niche I recommend trying Imeye. If you use it for 4 days on a trial you will find enough niches to last you for many months.
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  • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
    The term "over saturation" means nothing.

    It's a nonsense

    Saturation is a myth. Absolutely any niche can be drilled if you look at the angles. You need an angle to drill into, but once you find it....
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  • Profile picture of the author kartikkhattar
    It also depends on that person's sales page where you are sending your visitors...
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Over saturation is certainly NOT a myth! If it were, mcdonalds, walmart, etc... wouldn't spend so much time doing research.

    Basically, to sell, you at least need the PERCEPTION of:

    1. A USP
    2. Little competition.
    3. Just a good deal while they are there.

    WALMART is STILL worried about competition, but they try to offer a LOT at a low price. They basically satisfy 1 and 3. They try to be located in an area with as few real competitors as possible to meet #2. Mcdonald's is the SAME way.

    what do you think would happen if a mcdonalds opened up RIGHT NEXT TO another mcdonalds? With the same price and benefits, their income could be cut in HALF! The SAME is true of your place in Google.

    If you are SELLING reverse lookups, you blow #3 right out of the water. It is usually clear that you don't have #1. SO, can you manage #2? NOPE, because it is TOO saturated!

    Does that mean NOBODY is making money? NOPE! Some site may have contracts with another, or grandfathered customers, they may have TRUST, or have advertised elsewhere. They may have a bonus. So it APPEARS similar to what you are doing, but they have a #1 that makes them do better.

    Now if you cut your price, or offered a worthwhile bonus, MAYBE your sales would go up. But I look for a reverse lookup from time to time, and I am tired of the sites asking me for a worthless membership or a high fee. I'll just leave. Who knows, maybe I have been to YOUR site. I can tell you I am NOT alone!

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    • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      what do you think would happen if a mcdonalds opened up RIGHT NEXT TO another mcdonalds? With the same price and benefits, their income could be cut in HALF! The SAME is true of your place in Google.
      While your statement is true, it is also filled with poor information.

      Explain why Walgreens opens up next to a Kroger store, and they both thrive. Explain why Target opens up near a Walmart and they both do well. Their markets are very similar.

      Is their income cut in half? Not normally, it is the guy down the street in the little shop who is hurt.

      The other portion of your argument which does not work is the fact of opening up next to me on Google. While there may be 500,000 competing pages in a niche, you are normally only competing against the top 10 sites. If they are rock solid, you may have a problem. If they are not, you have opportunity.
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by Barry Unruh View Post

        While your statement is true, it is also filled with poor information.

        Explain why Walgreens opens up next to a Kroger store, and they both thrive. Explain why Target opens up near a Walmart and they both do well. Their markets are very similar.

        Is their income cut in half? Not normally, it is the guy down the street in the little shop who is hurt.

        The other portion of your argument which does not work is the fact of opening up next to me on Google. While there may be 500,000 competing pages in a niche, you are normally only competing against the top 10 sites. If they are rock solid, you may have a problem. If they are not, you have opportunity.
        They are different stores, and cater to a different market. One next to another WILL affect income, but not that much. HECK, I pass a krogers before I go to wallgreens, near my home, and I generally go to WALLGREENS! WHY!?!? FASTER! LESS EFFORT! They are a DRUG STORE! They also happen to be open 24 hours, but I go there at all times. NOW, if I were to cook for a family, WHERE would I go? KROGERS! WHY? They are likely to have everything there! If I were to get dry milk, WHERE would I go? KROGERS! WHY? Does wallgreens even sell dry milk? MEAT? KROGERS! BAKERY? KROGERS! If I wanted to get a toy, I might go to wallgreens. Pictures? WALLGREENS! Gee, on the surface they may LOOK similar but they really AREN'T! KROGERS is a supermarket! WALLGREENS is a drug store/convenience store.

        Gee, where I live there is a SCOTTS across the street from krogers THEY are real competitors! They are BOTH supermarkets with similar goods and similar checkout speeds. I usually go to krogers, and I can't REALLY tell you why, other than scotts is across a busy street. But what if krogers WEREN'T there? I would go to SCOTTS! And scotts and krogers DO run sales to compete.

        AND, where krogers is, there are THREE major fast food franchises! Burger king, Wendy's, and KFC. They DO all sell different things. I have been to all three. I FREQUENT all three! HEY, sometimes I like something different. Even the burger king hamburgers are different from the wendys hamburgers. But what if there were only ONE franchise!?!? I might go there more often.

        HEY, I never said the 1st site, or even the first page, was IT for google! That is STUPID! Sometimes I have to go through 10 pages just to find a site REALLY matching my query. But if you are #3 and they went down the list, you MIGHT lose out! If you were #11, the chances of losing increase SUBSTANTIALLY, assuming, of course, several before are valid sites.

        I DID say all other things being equal.

        BTW You say walgreens is THRIVING!?!?!? REALLY? Do they make over a trillion dollars a year? I bet if you figured worldwide sales for all that they are in that it WOULD be over a trillion dollars a year. So the idea of "thriving" in your definition is merely making a profit with what they have. HEY, sometimes a market will carry a new product line and shut it down ONLY because THEY couldn't make it work. The reason why THEY don't have the market is because they know they couldn't wrest it away from existing players.

        BTW ironically one of the reasons I like wallgreens is because there is LITTLE traffic. Do you think if the two stores closed down that their business would increase substantially? PROBABLY! HECK, they may try to become like wallmart. BTW I go to walmart for electronics, etc... If I am there and hungry, I MIGHT think to get FOOD! Walmart is slower than krogers, and farther away. If they were where scotts is, I MIGHT go there. HECK, it COULD hurt wallgreens also, but wallgreens is still closer and faster.

        OH, and target seems to be advertising more than walmart. I haven't looked around the two to really compare. Who knows, maybe people think target is faster, and go there for some things. Frankly, since I found walmart, I don't go to target anymore! So AGAIN, they LOST OUT! And some people HATE walmart for various reasons. Give them a choice, and it is ANYTHING but walmart.

        BTW about 5 years ago a business store, I believe it was officemax, in my area, ****CLOSED****! It was a NICE store! When they had their last sale, I asked them WHY!!!!!! Do you know what the response was? Want to take a wild guess? YEP! Staples opened up like 4 or 5 blocks away, and they lost too much business! That HUGE area was vacant for a year or so. TODAY it is a BORDERS book store. While I am at it, over about 13 years ago, at least 2 towers stores in my area CLOSED! They did FINE until a big player came to town. I hadn't even heard of the competitor until then. Their competitor charged MORE for videos, but STILL seemed to somehow do well. Maybe it was advertising, convenience, whatever... They lived up to their name. Tower closed those places! TODAY? Well, that competitor opened them up under ITS brand! Their name? BLOCK BUSTER!

        Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author jideofor
      Originally Posted by John McEachern View Post

      I had honestly never thought about the possibility of nailing down a kidnapper by doing a reverse cell phone lookup! That's kind of a hot one! What I don't know, though, is how common of a day-to-day problem kidnapping is for most people! :rolleyes:

      I think backlinking to the hilt is one of the keys to this niche. Have you been building backlinks like crazy for your site? If those are the keywords you are going after (from the titles of your articles), I hope you are consistently building backlinks.
      The only method I use is ezinearticle and yahoo answers and there are no so much forums for it.

      I am just starting out. my main intention was to flip the site after about 3-5 sales. I never knew it would be this tuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    It's very hard to find a niche that's completely and utterly over-saturated. But you will find websites you can use for the niche that are saturated for advertising for that niche, etc. You can find parts of the niche that are saturated.

    But in this game you have to be creative. You can always find new keywords or new avenues to promote a niche. And you can always laser target the niche for example "weight loss" becomes "weight loss for people who drink too much coke" etc. and you will find less competition for the second one and although that's just off the top of my head you can find sub-niches that are relevant and profitable.

    Just put the thinking cap on and go for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author adrianhargray
    I think 42 articles aren't enough to produce a rapid mass of sales. I think you should keep going with your marketing plan and be persistent. You made the right decision to take action instead of reading more ebooks. Don't give up because eventually you will get another sale - and it will lead to a spur of more sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author Old School
    Over saturation is really not a true statement. If you have a product or service that is needed in the market. It come down to how you market it and if what you're marketing give your customers something new, unique, and helps them solve a problem then the market can't be over saturated.

    David
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  • Profile picture of the author Will Edwards
    The most saturated niche I can think of is the making money niche, but there are still people making a killing in it - even comparative newbies. I don't mean to imply that you should get into that niche: what I am saying is that you can thrive in any niche. So I would advise that you forget about competition and simply get to work.

    Will
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    So many people are afraid of competition, but have you thought about looking at it from a different perspective, i.e. would you want to discover a niche that was completely devoid of competition and you were the only one in it (this could be some obscure niche like 'underwater basket weaving' - this is JUST AN EXAMPLE!) or would you prefer a vast, popular niche like dating where there are thousands of competitors offering not only ebooks, but also physical books, complete multimedia courses and also CPA offers that generate leads to dating sites?

    Despite the intense competition in the dating niche, which niche do you think would be more profitable for you? Competition is actually a good thing, as it's showing you where the money is being made. You'll have to work harder and test out what approach works best for you, but if you persevere you'll definitely find a way to make money in just about any competitive niche.

    Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author Randy Daugherty
    Over saturated niche means many internet marketers into that specific niche. A newbie on internet marketing should select a not so saturated or flooded niches or not so new niches. To get more revenue you need to know the best niches that will eventually give you profits. The most known niches (over saturated niches) is not always good since you will have lots of competitors. You should found a niche that can give you targeted traffic and revenue. It take some time though but surely you will find the right niche soon.Good luck to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author TomBuck
    I thought over saturation was putting to much emphasise on making people part with their money. Like i.e. buy this, buy this now, buy this its awesome. Stuff like that.
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  • Profile picture of the author seovcim
    I'll see what I can find and I'll probably bring it up later on in the series. Thanks for the idea.
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