I Want to Use Site Flipping to Pay for My Wedding

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I am a full time student, getting my bachelors and masters in Computer Engineering. My girlfriend and I plan to get married as soon as I graduate, in about 1.5 years. The problem is that I am not going to have time to earn any money to pay for my wedding, and our families can't help either.

Blogging has been a hoby of mine for over 3 years now. I got pretty good at all the basics, setting up blogs, creating qualitycontent, video promotion, building links etc.

I was thinking, what if I spend my free time next year building up a number of quality sites and flip them right before my wedding, to cover our expenses.

I was hoping to get some feedback. Do you think it is a realistic idea? How many sites do you think I should go for? How many pages per site? Should I try to monetize them or concentrait on traffic?

I've never flipped a site before, so any advice would be greatly appreciated!
#flipping #pay #site #wedding
  • Profile picture of the author FranciscoDancon
    I think that is a good idea. I'd recommend monetizing them because you will get a lot more money for a site that is a proven money maker than a site with "potential."

    Just make sure that you keep detailed traffic and earnings statistics right from the get go so when you go to sell the sites you can erase any doubt about the veracity of your claims in the minds of your buyers.

    Also I'd recommend starting the selling process well before your wedding because sometimes these things can take time and the last thing you want to do is have a fire sale.
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  • Profile picture of the author TristanH
    I just saw that there's a free ebook (requiring opt-in) about website flipping at Flip Websites | How To Make Money Online Fast with Website Flipping but I haven't downloaded it or know if it's any good or not.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jillycakes
      Originally Posted by TristanH View Post

      I just saw that there's a free ebook (requiring opt-in) about website flipping at Flip Websites but I haven't downloaded it or know if it's any good or not.
      I've read that ebook and it's not bad. As you might imagine though, it's geared more towards people who aren't experienced with setting up blogs and whatnot (explaining hosting, etc.). Flip Websites recently changed hands, so I'm not sure if the new owner has revised the guide at all.

      Starting niche sites to pay for your wedding isn't a bad idea at all. One thing I'd recommend is to start buying your domain names now. Even if you can't start building on them for a few months because of the holidays, school workload, whatever, they'll still be aging - which will help them fetch more cash when the time comes.
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  • How many visitors do you think I should bring a month per site to generate $60-$70 in adsense revenue?

    Originally Posted by hardindex View Post

    I think you should start with micro niche blogs. Pick a good niche, add 4-5 good articles, add some extra pages like about us, privacy policy, contact us.Add some adsense ads block in sidebar and in between articles. Now build some initial backlinks and index in google. DO some social bookmarking and some high PR backlinks. DO this till you get $2 per day income. SO that its monthly income becomes $60-$70. After 1 month you can sell your blog at $800-$850 (on flippa.com)

    Now just make 10 blogs and repeat the process.

    Note some points :
    1) Include a high cpc niche with medium competition. Look at 3000+ us monthly searches.
    2) Always try to include unique content. If this is not possible (due to time or money), atleast change title, intro paragragh and conclusion part.
    3) Install SEO-pressor plugin in each blog and each article should have atleast 75% score.
    4) Install auto blog plugin after you start some adsense income. (will create some value of your site for selling)


    Best of luck for your marriage. I hope you could pay for your wedding through site flipping. ALthough, you should also look for other money making methods.


    cheers
    peter
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  • Profile picture of the author Donna Hamer
    Adsense will depend upon the keyword you are targeting. If you don't want to create the unique content yourself go to Fiverr. You can get a lot of outsourcing done there for just $5 per gig.

    Good luck for the wedding plans - its a great goal to be aiming for.
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    • Profile picture of the author RichMag
      If you have a year before the wedding, you could do some serious damage in flipping sites. While many will disagree with me, you can make some money flipping websites that arent making money. Yes you will get more for revenue producing sites but you can still flip those that are new. While there are many more expert flippers then me on this forum, here is what I would do if I had a year:

      As stated above, make some money sites. Get traffic and hopefully some adsense clicks and affiliate sales. Hold on to these for a while, atleast until you have 3 months of earnings to claim.

      In your free time, make 1 or 2 "quick sale" blogs every week or so. You can use good quality PLR on these. Get a good premium theme and list them on flippa or even ebay. If time is a problem, you can even get compelete PLR sites that you can monetize. Now list them on flippa or even ebay. The goal of these sites should be to break even or make a few bucks. Some will surprise you and you might make $80-$100 on. Others, you will just get back the domain fee and listing fees back. Thats ok.

      Once you sell these, you must WOW them with you customer service. I mean really WOW them. Give them free backlinks (go to FIVERR) maybe a unique article or 2. Whatever it takes. Dont advertise these freebies in the listing. Just give it to them. You also need to be fast in the transfer of everything. Get it done within 12 hours after they give you all the information you need. If you do this, you'll have a customer for life.

      PM the other people that bid on the "quick sale" blog. Tell them you apprieciate the bid and that you will be listing more soon. If they respond, contact them everytime you have a site for sale.

      The key to the "quick sale" blogs is NOT to spend alot of time on them. Make them nice and user friendly but remember, you probably wont make a ton of money with them. The key to these is to break even for a few weeks and start building a client list.

      After 5 or 6 weeks, you should have 10-12 people that won your sites for your "list". You'll probably have another 20 people that bid on your sites that you PM'd that ou can also notify. Let them all know whenver you list a new site and you should be all set, and your "quick sale" sites will start to bring in more cash.

      Re-invest the money now into unique content sites. 10 articles per site should do it. I outsource the process since I hate writting. Now your blogs will bring in better money.

      Flippa isnt the only place to sell these blogs. I have had good luck with Ebay as well. The problem with ebay though is you will get "high maintenance" customers. These are newbies who will email you all the time with questions. This isnt a problem but they will constantly email you with the same questions, over and over. While I do have 3 or 4 sites listed on there now, I have moved away from ebay and just use flippa or my "list". There is a guy making great money on ebay selling startup sites but he lists 15 or 16 every week. Not enough ROI for me but he does have $1000 weeks.

      After bouncing around from one new product to the next over the past 2 years, I started doing this 3 or 4 months ago and I think I have found my "niche". I do around $300-$500 profit a week (about 10-12 hours of work) but could really make as much money as I wanted if I put more time into it. I have a full time job as well and use this money for up-comming vacations and saving for a new car that I want to pay cash for.

      I am sure that there are easier ways to make money online but this is what I have found works best for me.

      Feel free to ask any questions that yu might have as Ill be glad to help if I can.

      Rich
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      • Originally Posted by RichMag View Post


        I am sure that there are easier ways to make money online but this is what I have found works best for me.

        Feel free to ask any questions that yu might have as Ill be glad to help if I can.

        Rich
        Thanks a lot Rich, I really appreciate you laying your strategy out like that!
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  • Profile picture of the author JoeMbulu
    You don't need to necessarily generate unique content yourself with adsense sites. There a plenty of article syndication networks that provide spun content for free; however, you want to make sure that you can manual pick the articles to ensure they are truly inline with your sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author steveshills
    How much money do you need for the wedding? if you wanna go down the road of flipping, then its best to use an auto blog system that will make some cash, you can then track the site with google analytics, which is a must for any site flippa, because it shows proof that the site is making so money. even if its $10 per month

    Best advice i would say is to stay away from micro niche sites, there dead since the mayday update, head over to my blogging blueprint, free course on auto blogging with the extra help of some free software that works just the same as wp robot.

    Good Luck with your sites and the wedding
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  • Profile picture of the author petevamp
    Why not just build a simple review site. Pick any clickbank product and do a non biased review on a few products with in that niche. Then build the site links with article directories. Since you already express an interest in writing since that is what you do with blogging. It should be easy to find a niche you are familiar with to help with your promotional efforts. Once you start generating enough traffic it should be a steady stream of income with in a few months. In which case if it does not do the trick it would make it that much more valuable to sell latter on. It would still be a basic blog set up which wouldn't take much but gives you the chance to make considerably more over the long run. If you can do this with say 10 sites you would be sitting rather well for both your wedding and you future income. This is just my opinion and may not necessarily work for you but it would be a really good start.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Thai
    Hi,

    You can definitely earn lots of money in flipping websites. Basically the easiest way to get high sales on Flippa.c0m is to sell websites that are already earning money. The earning can be from Adsense, Amazon or any other affiliate program. As a rule of thumb you can sell a website for 10x to 15x its monthly income value. For example, if you make $50/month, your site should be worth around $500-$750, in general.

    However, you can also earn money by flipping sites that are not earning much yet. The value you can add are such as buying a high PR domain and flip it, add good content, get traffic and etc.......

    Hope this helps. Congrats on your wedding plan. Wish you and your future life partner a happily married life ahead
    Mic
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    If you start building right now and start promoting and getting traffic and revenue, you could pay for several weddings and a divorce with a year and half to work on it.

    As mentioned above, you can do startups but they sell for chump change, so you'd have to build a lot of them. There's a guy on Flippa right now who lists many sites and they're selling for $100 and less. Take the $19 listing fee from that and it's not much money.

    If you build great sites and promote them ... actually put some work into them, you can sell them for thousands once they've got traffic and revenue. Everybody is out for the instant buck instead of the long term payoff.
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  • Thanks to everybody for such a meaningful feedback! I trully appreciate it!

    I think I am going to take the road of building a few quality websites instead of making a large number of OK sites. Thats being said I do like the idea of building the client list, so I might try to flip a few quick sites during my shool break, since I'll have more time.

    I was thinking to pick 10 areas that I am an expert in, create a basic strategy plan ( i.e. set up site, write some content, backlink, wait, monetize, some more content, more backlinks, wait etc). And then apply it to every site.

    While those st up and gaining age, I could shift into flipping smaller sites, may be for the last 8 months of my plan. So I'll have 3-4 months left to flip all of my better sites and take in the profit.

    I was also thinking to offer SEO/ Website creation services to local businesses( kind of like what you see in my sig file). Or do you think I should just stick to one thing?
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  • Profile picture of the author Flipfilter
    Hi,

    I hate to play devil's advocate, but I wouldnt rely solely on paying for your wedding with the proceeds from site flipping. I've seen Bridezilla....it's not worth your life should things not go to plan!

    For something like buying a big screen tv or getting a new truck it's great idea and you'll be super motivated, but paying for the (hopefully) 1 special day in your life - I wouldnt take the gamble if I hadnt done it before.

    I'm the first to sing the praises of anything website flipping related but it's not as simple as some people have made out, although it is possible if you follow their advice.

    What usually happens isnt a black and white case of success or failure, but more a situation where you fail to hit the target first time round and eventually get better the more you do it.

    1) Sites DO NOT typically sell for 10 - 12x revenue. Over the last 6 months this figure has averaged at 7.2x

    2) Not all adsense sites are created equally. Sites in truely evergreen niches that often have low - medium payout rates will sell for more than fad sites, so pick your niche wisely.

    3) The whole "create 1 site that makes $50 per month and repeat 20,000 times to become a millionaire" type approach will work in theory, but in practice the execution is much more difficult. Very few people can scale production of successful sites for a variety of reasons; otherwise there would be so many more internet millionaires who simply outsourcing the building of $50 per month sites all day long and sit at home getting rich.

    I dont want to take the jam out of your donut, but I'd certainly pursue a back up plan of offering local services to supplement your income should the gamble not pay off.

    All the same, I hope it works out well for you!

    Justin
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    • Thanks Justin,

      I am all about Devil's advocates, so thank you for that.

      I guess I'll try to concentrait 50% of my effort on site creation and 50% on offline marketing. If everything else fails at least I will have a lerned something along the way.

      My other options may include getting a part time job, or taking out a loan to pay for the wedding, so I am not risking much by taking IM aproach.
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    • Profile picture of the author RichMag
      Originally Posted by Flipfilter View Post

      1) Sites DO NOT typically sell for 10 - 12x revenue. Over the last 6 months this figure has averaged at 7.2x
      This is 100% true Justin. I see all over the place that you should get 10x the monthly income but it's really anywhere from 6-8%, depending on the niche.
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      • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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        Originally Posted by RichMag View Post

        This is 100% true Justin. I see all over the place that you should get 10x the monthly income but it's really anywhere from 6-8%, depending on the niche.
        When you sell crap in flea market settings, you get crappy returns.
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  • Do sites with no revenue but good targeted traffic sell?
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    • Profile picture of the author Flipfilter
      Originally Posted by SanJoseTruckRepair View Post

      Do sites with no revenue but good targeted traffic sell?
      Yes, everytime, but naturally for less than if they had revenue.

      You'll tend to get more if the traffic is from good established links and social media rather than Google, as a buyer in a similar niche can buy the site and 301 (redirect) the traffic to their site for an instant targeted boost in their numbers.

      Alternatively, Lead Gen is becoming a fairly hot topic in Internet Marketing, especially at a local level and many domainers are switching to selling leads of the back of parked domains so if your traffic is industry specific selling the site should be much easier.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by SanJoseTruckRepair View Post

      Do sites with no revenue but good targeted traffic sell?
      On Flippa, not so much. It'd be best to build and develop your sites for several months to where they show verifiable traffic and income. These are the sites that tend to sell for higher amounts in Flippa, and this is what I'd definitely recommend you do.

      Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author HotDamnShortSales
    this is so damn interesting and appealing to me, i love it. we flip houses for a living through short sales, now I can flip websites. how cool would it be to tell people when they ask what you do for a living you say "oh, I flip websites and houses" love it!
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  • Profile picture of the author vok
    New websites don't see for large amounts because there worth (site earnings) have been inflated and I'd say 80% of those type of sites fade into nothing within the 6 months of purchasing. I got caught up in the same trap when I first join internet marketing and business.

    More much better looking into affiliate/internet marketing to create some income seeing as you have a bit of time on your hands.
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
    I have a different recommendation...

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ht=blog+empire

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ht=blog+empire

    Take the ideas you find in those two threads, apply them to start making money. Spread the technique into blogs you own and can sell which increases your revenue stream.

    The advantage to this method, you may discover you do not want to get rid of anything. You may choose to keep the blog empire and keep expanding it, and have it for paying off student loans, making a house payment, annual vacations, etc....

    Barry

    P.S. Make sure you thank Zeuss66 for those two threads, they are one of the best shares on the WF you will find.
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    • Originally Posted by Barry Unruh View Post

      I have a different recommendation...

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ht=blog+empire

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ht=blog+empire

      Take the ideas you find in those two threads, apply them to start making money. Spread the technique into blogs you own and can sell which increases your revenue stream.

      The advantage to this method, you may discover you do not want to get rid of anything. You may choose to keep the blog empire and keep expanding it, and have it for paying off student loans, making a house payment, annual vacations, etc....

      Barry

      P.S. Make sure you thank Zeuss66 for those two threads, they are one of the best shares on the WF you will find.
      They are interesting threads but I would think that google wouldn't think much of a website created 100% of duplicate content.
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      • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
        I don't know how much you want to make for your wedding (apparently the average wedding costs nearly £20,000 here in the UK) but if you're already experienced at building an income from your blogs I would focus on authority sites rather than smaller sites.

        Over the course of a year you could easily build an authority site's income up to $1000 a month or more and with a few of these you could easily make the price of your wedding.

        I'm with Flipfilter though in that I wouldn't rely solely on site flipping. You could have the best sites in the world, but if you don't put them in front of the right buyers at the right time you might not even get close to the price you want (or what they're worth).

        Certainly create some sites (even if you don't sell them, authority sites can provide you with a great income for your future) but look into other ways of making money too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Flipfilter
    Theoretically, yes - aim for the sky etc etc.

    In reality - no.

    Try the thirty day challenge (challenge.co) for a good intro to starting up and keyword research.
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