I'll never understand why so many people get upset over this. You'd think you're asking a fat woman how much she weighs. She doesn't want to tell you because she weighs so much and is embarassed about it. Do marketers get so offended because most make so little.

Last year I made $8,000. This year I made $900 because I abandoned my previous business practices and switched to something new. It's nothing worth bragging about and I'm not affraid to share it because I know that how much money I make isn't going to affect in any way, shape, or form the amount of money that the person who is asking the question is going to make.

Without trying to sound rude (though I know this will sound rude anyways), sometimes I wish you guys weren't so uptight about this sort of thing. Most of the time, people who ask these types of questions are looking for motivation. They need to know that making a decent amount of money online is possible . . . probably because they have tried and tried and tried and are about to throw in the towel. There's no harm in throwing a little motivation towards someone who needs it.

I'm not understanding why there's a negative reaction to the question.

We have people who post screen shots of their affiliate earnings, for heaven's sake. We have people bragging about how much they make. We have people bragging about how much they make AND how much everyone else COULD make.

But it's not okay to ASK people to voluntarily share the information? Or is it just okay to talk about what you make if you are simultaneously selling something?

...then again, the subtitle to this forum IS "Where We Talk About Making Money"....

If you don't want to answer, don't answer....there are occasionally threads like this that pop up here and there, but not enough to go on serious rants about. Besides...I'd have to think the approach was at least tactful and sincere (sharing in order to encourage others)....

I don't think he's asking for an exact figure of what you make... just asking for a little encouragement in the form of a success story. At least that's the way I took it. But whatever...

I've done pretty well and I've had a similar experience to the previous poster. When I focus on taking action on one project I do well. When I jump around from one project to another or spend all day studying instead of taking action, or let self doubt sabotage my action etc. I do not do well.

Just take action every day and you will be fine. (and remember studying is not taking action imo... study a little and then take action a LOT)

Rude isn't the word I heard growing up when someone outside the family asked about income. The word was "crass" and usually followed by someone saying "let it go, he doesn't know any better than to ask".

If you want to give your income on a public forum - no problem. If others prefer privacy - it's up to them and no one else's business.

kay

I apologize if offended somebody. I thought it was a good idea to ask, perhaps I was wrong.

Too funny and awesome they were busted. Everyone wants to make a buck and many have no scruples, they'll lie, use deception and pressure to do it. Unfortunately it's the bull****ters that create all the skepticism and discontent, and plain ole distrust. Not only online, but everywhere in life. One of my fiction stories involves alternate realities. One of them being an "HONEST" reality. I have alot of trouble wrapping my mind around the concept. Everything would be drastically different than what we all know.

Hi, after giving your answers do you feel that you lose anything?
I doubt so...

By giving your kind of answers, I believe you are doing a great service to many people who are in need of some kind of motivations to keep them going in this money making business.

I personally like your answers and hope that many warriors will follow your style and not only bragging and probably lying on the sales letter.

Thanks a lot.



Qamar

I love this statement too. thanks a lot!

"Something" here, also.

I'm on the side of the people wondering why other people get so uptight about this. If you don't want to say what you earn, then don't reply! To complain, in a forum specifically dedicated to making money, about someone asking "How much do you make?", when you could simply ignore the thread if you don't like it, is just bizarre.

I make a net profit of between $5,500 and $8,000 per month as a Clickbank affiliate, and a bit extra from providing writing services to existing/returning clients (closed for new business!).

I understand someone wanting some motivation - but I personally feel if you need verification of people making money to motivate you then you are seeking the wrong motivation (proof of people making good money is already all over this site) and perhaps your head is in the wrong place all together.

While making great money is a good thing and the benefit we all look for with building a successful business, The real accomplishments people achieve are the things they got through to make the money.

I personally would be more impressed with people saying something like "I got 3,000 visitors to my site this month" or "I got my website built this week" or "I made my first goal of 100 sales with a product."

The amounts one makes really don't tell us much. I could have made 3k last month selling just one item one time.

Here's the thing - if you or anyone has the ability to sell just one thing online - even if it's a 50 cent item - then you most certainly have the ability to make 3,000 or 30,000 or what ever will make you happy.

Perhaps a really motivational question for everyone would be, "please say something if you sold something online last month."

With all this money being made all around the Internet, why does anyone still need hope from others making money. :confused:

Are the people who own all these sites and products not "real" or are they all just trying to fool people?

I no longer talk about how much I make, but here's a video I did back in 2008 (prior to my book deal) showing some earnings reports and teaching a strategy to make money online.

NOTE: I'm just sharing some information, some of which may be outdated because it's over two years old and I'm no longer offering the coaching program being referenced (don't judge me ):

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You're missing the point with these shows then and the whole point behind "motivation." No one is ashamed to make 3k - but it is not the important factor and not the real root for good motivation.

The point of the diet shows is to get these people "healthy." Some are healthy by losing 50 lbs, and some will be healthy by losing 200 lbs.

And depending on where a Vet lives, they might make 40K a year and they might make 100k a year. A 100k a year may not make that Vet profit and may not be "healthy " for him if the neighborhood he has to live in to make that amount costs him a million a year - where as the Vet making 40K a year only needs 20k a year for his rent and expenses.

I would be more inclined to follow the Vet who I knew was just making a profit. I don't need to even know how much profit that is - I just want to know who is in the green. This tells me they have something to work with. A good system, which can be analyzed and improved upon.


Lets pretend you and I go on a diet together. You lose weight by being sick. I lose weight by monitoring my calorie intake and working out. Which system is replicatable, sustainable, and healthy for the long term? You lose 30 lbs, and I lose 10 but "look" like I lost 30 and look (and feel) healthy. Which is more important? Which person will be more motivational?

Which as an outsider will be more helpful/motivational to me in the long run? You telling me that you lost 30 lbs last month, or someone telling me they have lost one pound, and can do it over and over again as much as they want or need and there are no bad long term effects and they can tell me how they did it so I can do it too?

That this is available in Norway does not make it right. It's easy to think of a bunch of reasons why this is not a good idea. And it's not about "being uptight" - that has nothing to do about it. It's basically very interesting that the so-called 'social democratic' nation of Norway has a rather extreme take on the concept of right to privacy... As an example, it appears that the press (in ongoing wide coverage) is not allowed to release a name of a criminal of a very serious crime prior to the verdict - even though DNA or other proofs are as good as 100% sure... You see, the identity of the criminal must be protected... At the same time, the criminals have access to information about incomes and addresses of the everyone in the nation... Oh, one more thing: It appears that legislators in most of the non-socialistic political parties of Norway do not agree with the concept that there is no right to privacy about incomes. So, yes, it's a very socialistic "thing"...

Ahhh. That is the key question.

I don't know you. You don't know me. I'm just a random person on the web conversing with you on a forum.

(gosh, where is that Eric Louviere when I need him, lol)

I think you may understand now that yes, people are making money all over the place and making all different amounts of money. (I think you get this, but I can't know for sure )

If your goal is 3k a month, you should be able to see from a few of the above responses that this is an achievable goal. But that is all it is. A simple goal which you can use to measure yourself.

Finding that right motivation to get to that goal will be a different answer for everyone on this forum.

Why do you need this 3k a month? What are you willing to give to get there? What is important to you? What is keeping you from getting there?

I am in no way a business coach or mentor - but these are things that coaches can sometimes ask you and help to squeeze the right answers out of you which give you the right motivation to persevere.

I would say a good motivational factor is the story behind the success. The journey that took the person to that success factor. It is not enough to just look at some arbitrary number. I would want to see what a person specifically went through to get to a goal point. Just like when people have a road trip, its not the number of miles they traveled that really excite people. It is the actual journey of that road trip and all the things they went through to get to their destination. Personally I have been reading stuff by Jason Fladlien, and he also tells some of his stories through his newsletter which is inspiring. Reading about stories like his motivates me to keep trying. I'm still new myself, so I just keep pushing on so that I can also have a story to tell one day.

I make over $3,000 a month. I do not know if this was the same for everyone but it was hard work for me.

I am working real hard to make ten times that. I make money as a clickbank affiliate building niche blogs and ranking for google like 70% of the internet marketers out there.

Not enough. And no, that one wouldn't make me feel uptight either, in the proper venue. This is a forum focused on making money. It has nothing to do with sex, so asking it here makes no sense. Asking it in weliketoigetlaid.com, however, would make sense.

I'm in this for the lifestyle more than anything, being my own boss etc.

I think one reason this comes up, is there are so many ways to do IM and money is the only common denominator.

I haven't made any money yet, but I'm happier than I have been in years. I love this stuff! Too bad there's no number that can be put on that.

I have been making over that since the on of 1998 online..
I had no choice back then, single mom of 2 then a newborn thrown into the mix, I didn"t have time for a real job. It took me about 5 months to ramp up to that figure and I have never looked back. If you treat this like a business then there is no limit on income. It's not rocket science, just hard work, sometimes repetitive, but always fun for me.. I figure I'm on a laptop, on my couch, watching a show with my kids, make a page, click upload and voila I make money, it does'nt get much better than that.
Hardest part in this business is getting going, I've seen too many people give up just before they hit it big..

That's fantastic! Sounds like you all have one solid business plan and are just working the system. Do you attach continuity to any of those sales, or retain a percentage ownership? I bet there's even more residual income you could factor in - if you wanted to... but you might already do that. Regardless, that's great to hear and pretty much IMO answers the OP's request.

As far as my response to the OP, I'd say that most people just want to hear that this is real and they want to acquire that "self belief" they can do it too, and that they are not just wasting their time on something that's a pipe dream.

There's nothing wrong with asking if people make over 3k. Isnt that what this forum is about?? helping people? Encouraging others to strive for more, etc? I remember when Mike Filsaime would come in here and post "my first $10,000 day" etc.

The day I posted "I quit my day job!" was one of the best days of my life. Encouragement and self belief is HUGE. In fact, I'd go as far as saying it's one of the biggest reasons people succeed or fail (self belief... FAITH!)

here's a quick off the top of my head 12 step list-thing-ish (maybe more like David Letterman top 10 list)

drum roll...

12. Self belief. You can do anything you laser focus on and put your mind to, with faith. there are countless amounts of people far worse off than you, who are focused and taking risks and putting themselves out there!

11. Courage. Most are afraid of ridicule and refrain from selling stuff because of the fear of what people will think and say about them or their products/services. You got to have courage (big b#lls)

10. Focus. There's that word again, but most people half-ass everything, just toss stuff up and see what sticks, never really get into the guts of anything or stick to it with laser focus through until the finish. Your ability to focus on the task at hand constantly, consistently and even when you are sick of focusing on that task at hand will equal your success. Dont just discount off "focus" as if you've heard it a million times, because the chances are.... YOU DONT FOCUS.

9. Specialized Knowledge. General knowledge is not good enough to do a damn thing. Being knowledgeable does not equal money. Whoever said "knowledge is power" is wrong. Specialized and applied knowledge is power. I first specialized in copywriting and that made me a small fortune that lead to many other things. Specialized! The guy above who sells 25k sites, that's specialized knowledge. Most marketers are 10% good at everything and NOT 90% good at one thing.

8. Sell stuff! People are afraid to sell and are not aggressive enough to sell stuff consistently and constantly. Sell all week long, all the time. Sell, sell and sell! never stop selling stuff.

7. Branding. Again, people are afraid to brand themselves. I just noticed an email from a marketer named Tim. I'm on his list (or it's spam) and he's pitching something and he signs his name Tim and the email is from some crazy named email account. Tim? Who the heck is Tim? Tim who? delete. People buy from those they _____, _____ and _____.

6. Traffic. Most go the free route and there's nothing wrong with that... other than the fact, free = a very, very long a$$ time from now that free traffic will pay off (usually) and most newbies dont have long term thinking to begin with. Paid traffic and JV affiliates. Focus there and change your results. THEN, go for free traffic later (just my opinion so screw off if you dont like it).

5. Conversions. Should I even go there? Most cant afford copy and most suck at copywriting, case closed, no money made (selling info products that is)

4. Product creation. Most go the easy, cheap, crappy route (PLR!) and while there's nothing wrong with that... most of the time you are not turning your customers into raving fans of yours. Which brings me to #3

3. Life time value of a customer. If I sold you on a $17 product and blew you away, you'd be more likely to spend $97 with me. If that 97 product blew you away too, you'd be more likely to spend $1000 or more with me.

2. Relationships & Masterminding. I've learned more from skype conversations and offline event bars and phone calls with other marketers than I ever have from some damn ebook. I remember learning (from Keith Baxter) years ago, how to earn money from "trial downloads" of software as an affiliate. That made me a bunch of $$. I bet I've made $500k just from what I've learned from him alone. He's a buddy, but I also paid him for consulting (big bucks)...! Find someone or a group who have been there and done that. It will increase all of the above for you.

1. Faith. You cannot have faith and self doubt at the same time. It's one or the other. Self doubt leads to failure and faith leads to more faith, which leads to more faith, which is the ultimate key to achieving everything you want or will ever want in all aspects of your life.

My name is Eric Louviere and I'm a marketing-aholic

~Stud

You have got to be kidding, right?

I don't think it is rude to ask...but really, what does it matter to you how much someone else makes? Knowing how much money is being made by someone else is not going to help you achieve anything unless you get down and start working like they do.

I think it is a bigger surprise that you have been doing IM for 24 years and only just joined the warrior forum this month!

A lot depends on your perspective.

My first thought was, who only makes $3k a month? Is that even above the poverty level?

But then looking at the many posts, and doing a reality check, the fact is a ton of Warriors would love to make that much. Or at least that much online to supplement / replace a job.

To those who are wondering, yes, real money can be made online. Real money is made online. There are more money making tips on this forum than you will find anywhere else.

It takes a while to be able to differentiate between the gems and the junk. To see through the hollow claims and wonder: is this guy without a website but 20 WSOs about making $100 a day really making $2000 a day with these techniques?

My advice: find some names you trust and then try to read everything they have ever written. Start with Allen Says. Not only have I bought all his stuff, but when I first joined the forum I searched for and found every post he wrote and read them. This was obviously not a 30 minute project. But well worth it. Do that for every Warrior you think is making contributions that can put money in your pocket.

something.

we'll you asked.