My God, these damn "Make money on autopilot with CB" programs!"

I'm getting sick of it too. It's too bad these promoters are not being held accountable. Anyone can fake a CB earning online.

Just think some of those program are grossing over $100,000 a month in sales, if people want to buy them there's always going to be someone to sell them. Saying that it's not all blue sky some of these programs have refund rates that range from 30-50% in some extreme cases.

What makes me crazy is those review sites, all trying to SELL

I agree. The thing is, it's the classic "the way to make money, is to sell a product telling others how to make money"

And it doesn't matter if you haven't heard of them, because I see they use this line "we've been doing this under the radar, unlike the gurus who like to make a name for themselves".

And then doing the really obvious "Us vs the guru" thing....we're JUST LIKE YOU, we wasted money on cr&ppy products too blah blah blah

I get them all the time too, its all just the same rehashed crap... It has taken me some time and money to figure out that there is no secret button, just takes work and a lot of it. Those people are always going to catch newbies and get their money. It the largest emotionally triggered niche on the net.

hahaha I love that!

Yeah, this is so annoying. I've been spending the best part of 2 days unsubscribing from all the junk I receive.

Word up and Amen, Brother. I like your rants. Keep 'em comin'.

Yeah BUT!!! Ever heard that one before Phil???

There are masses of IMers who will read this thread and others like it with disdain!

They will call YOU a hater and literally everything but a savvy IMer and then hastily turn around order the kit by the "Rich 16 Year Old Girl." Rich 16 Year Old site debunked One guy got upset that someone would go and dig up all that dirty laundry and spend all that time debunking the rich 16 year old girl... who is actually a DUDE!

Yep, that's why these worthless IM packages and useless software applications are being hawked like there is no tomorrow... because people will rush to click on the "Buy Buttons" like there is no tomorrow in spite of the fact the people like you herald the truth, which is IM requires WORK!

Giles, the Crew Chief

I AGREE

They're are coming out with a new autopilot system every day
I certainly get a ton of them in my inbox

GREAT Thread

I gotta admit without these programs, I wouldn't have found my way here.

There is no such thing as autopilot income.

I have something rather scary to reveal...

Just last week I survey around 45,000 people on my list

One question I asked is: Do you believe there to be a 'magic button' or push button success as many advertise?

A SHOCKING 17% of those that answered said YES they believed there're was!

Of course I expect some clicked yes because they thought it would be funny or whatever but still ... WOW!

But people, that is our job as a marketer... To educate our market

Plenty of work to continue to do!!

Dean

There's also a market for selling meth. I know apples/oranges but just to make a point. Just because you can make money off something that's a bt shady doesn't mean you should do it. Promising $177,380.23 on "auto pilot profits" with their "secret" software is BS.

Or that 16-year old rich girl which is all BS. Someone had a link to how that has been debunked. I see very little difference to these CB vendors then those guys sending emails about how I can get a piece of a $20 million dollar bank account overseas... all they need is my bank account number.

Sad thing is that there there are thousands of people discovering IM every day and the people that sell these "systems" are selling people who don't know any better. They, like a lot of us have to learn the hard way.

Have you read about "words that sell", there are a lot of reports on this subject.
Here are some words that DON'T SELL or tell you NOT TO BUY:
"Auto Pilot"
"Made X (imaginary high number) $ in Y (imaginary small number) days"
"While you sleep..." (I like this one the most)
" How a {some kind of a loser} made a fortune overnight"
" How a {ridiculously young} years old boy....."
" .....made tons of money by mistake..."
".... spending only 15 minutes a day..."

And, yes, I believe auto-pilot is achievable but the momentum and energy needed in order to get it in orbit is huge.

Yeah, quite. What was dissapointing with the last one was it was from somebody who I used to buy a physical newsletter from. So hence why I checked it out, needless to say I have now unsubscribed.

speak of the devil (literally)... I just finished helping set up a hosting account (I'm tech support) for one of the CB cash on autopilot hoowies... I can't really disparage the method (selling CB is definitely legit) BUT, these dam* landing pages that sell the method make it sound push-button easy. Cash on auto-pilot... as if. All pilots have to go through flight school ma'am. only then is landing a plane possible.

No, they aren't, they are pretending to give the market what it wants. That's the problem. If they were really giving the market the push button program to millions that it wants, no one would be complaining.

Why does Clickbank approve these products? That's what I'd like to know.

You are kidding right? What's honest about selling a scam?
Are you seriously trying to say you don't give a **** about people as long as they're putting money in your pocket?

Along these lines, I wonder something- are people claiming not to sell email addresses and then selling them in the back room? I laughed awhile ago when my wife saw my email account and gasped at the 40+ emails I'd gotten that day- around 35 of which were garbage.

But now it seems that I'm getting onto more and more lists of internet marketer new gurus who I never signed up with. Is this happening to anyone else? I don't open probably 75% of my emails at this point- and I haven't heard of at least 30% of the "lists" I'm on.

Yeah annoying junk ... shame that ppl keep buying them as these products give our industry a bad name.

John

A 'guru' is not a 'guru' at all.

A guru is a salesman and a very good one.

They can flog anything/the same old thing/something regurgitated, over and over again.

End of.

I was guilty in the past of falling for these push button make millions in your sleep product of the month systems. Things are so different now I stoped buying these products and just started putting in some honest work which included shuting off the tv and writing articles or buiding blogs, and I made more money in the last 7 months then I ever made from any of the over hyped worthless products i bought in the past.

p.s. I joined the warrior forum 7 months ago that was the turning point.

I agree also. I delete, send them to spam, unsubscribe! I dont beleive all the the BS online and all these gurus. Internet Marketing is a mugs game! We promote our own product and that works. Making $100,000 month from affiliate marketing, Yeah right.. Total BS!

Hi Phil, How are you?

It sounds like you are working way to hard my friend.

I'm starting a WSO that will unveil the secret to Office Depot's EASY BUTTON, Interested?
I'll send you a review copy...lol j/k

I can relate with you to all the BS flying through email lately.
Hey, Maybe we are just a little jaded seeing we are in the IM market?

I hope to skype with you in the near future if you have the time. It's been
hard for me to find free time lately. I understand your JV deals are keeping
you plenty busy here lately.

If you have time PM me and we'll work out a time when we can chat.

Hope all is well with you and yours.
Always good to see you posting here,
Have a Great Day!
Michael

Ultimately it comes down to people who are lazy that want to believe the dream. They buy these products they don't make millions over night and they screem scam and refund.

Just because it's not physical, it still does require work : )

Sid

Hey Sal

To be honest, don't read too much into my original post, I only did it to try and make a point and help newbies who get sucked into this stuff, like I did and many others. It was only intended to be a one post "get it off my chest" type thing. I have only wasted probably about 15 minutes, and that wasn't wasted as such, it was to kill some time in between work.

Not sure how much I would listen to LD's comments, only because they seemed a bit negative. But, as you know, in text things can come out the wrong way, so I could have that wrong. Anyway, hope that's all cool with you.

On the Ritchie Blackmore front, I must admit I was more into Sabbath than Deep Purple. However, Black Night is a classic, and I actually loved the stuff they did when David Coverdale was in the band, Burn and all that stuff.

I've found it very difficult to shift ClickBank products, even the all too rare good products.

I'm also fed up with the jerks who keep emailing me promising me how I can massively increase my ClickBank sales. I hope none of them are members of this place.

Yeah, and then to add to the confusion, didn't Ian Gillan sing on one of the Black Sabbath albums?? WTF. Oh, and then at one point, David Coverdale did an album with Jimmy Page?? So, at one point or another, they all played with each other.

P.s R.I.P Ronnie James Dio

Hang on, I think I've just hijacked my own thread lol

I have spent hundreds of dollars on these CB products. I do hope that someday someone can do something to clear up all the make money sites that don't really work.

To be perfectly honest, I wouldn't mind cashing in on that bandwagon myself, but the question always arises, "What do I know that no one else does?" And inevitably, it's not much and certainly not enough to justify creating a product. I'm talking IM here - and the ads you're talking about.

I wonder, what can possibly be new in THIS product? I've purchased and read tons and at this point, what I'm seeing is the same concepts rewritten with perhaps one tiny tip that is unique. In most cases, the price of the product does not justify this little tip, but in others it does.

Example: A few weeks back, I decided to bite the bullet and buy yet another product because the seller "guaranteed" that no one else is doing this - it's something that hasn't been promoted before.

Well, I've heard THAT story before, only to discover that it's not true. In the most recent case, however, I had read about half of his ideas before, but he also provided some unique ones that made the product worthwhile.

The thing is, you cannot tell if what they're selling is new until you buy it. Over the past year, I've returned more products than I like to, simply because the promise in the sales letter did not deliver in the product. It wasn't new material. It DID require PPC, even though the promo says it's not about PPC. Well, the majority of it was and the rest I knew.

People are always coming up with new concepts and ideas and methods that do justify a product. As you say, too many are not new and that's sad, because it makes us hesitant to purchase and discover those that do offer something original and valuable.

Now, if someone has any idea how to filter through stale ideas to find the fresh ones, it would be a huge benefit to us all.

Sylvia

P.S.: When it comes right down to it, many of us probably already have at our disposal some great methods. But as Phil says, it requires WORK, despite what the sellers claim.

The thing is that some of these courses telling how to get instant traffic and how to do this and that, only had a very very very brief spike in traffic and then POOF! They are gone. So they really don't practice the same "strategies" that they are professing.
I won't mention which $1,997 courses, but trust me - they are out there.
Cheers