Hijacking Affiliates - Cookie Stuffing Explained

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Hey Warriors,

What I'm about to share is extremely black hat.

Lots of talk about cookie stuffing lately and it seems that many people don't know what it actually is. I thought i'd try and explain it and hopefully that might help some people understand why cookie stuffing is not the reason clickbank is screwing up.

- Say I have a 1 page review site for 'Strip the Fat' that pulls in 100 unique visitors per day
- 10 of those people click on my affiliate link
- 1 of those people buy, good for one sale a day
- Lets say 1 other person reads my review, and then goes DIRECTLY to the sales page without clicking my links. I wont get cash for the sale

Now, wouldn't it be nice if we got commissions for everyone who visited our website if they purchased. Whether or not they clicked on our affiliate links? You bet your butt it would (despite being against every major affiliate companies TOS). This is where cookie stuffing comes in.

- Inside my page I place a 1pixel image. Something like '/images/thisisa1pixelimage.jpg'
- The thing is, this image isnt actually an image. *SHOCK*
- The trick is, I have secretly told my server that this is a PHP script. So instead of displaying the image, it parses the file and tries to execute it.
- Inside the image/php script I redirect to my affiliate link which drops the affiliate cookie on a users computer.
- So now, EVERY SINGLE PERSON who visits my page gets the affiliate cookie on their machine, whether or not they click my link.
- Beyond that, you could post that image anywhere on the entire web and anyone who views it will get a cookie dropped on them. Which is why you should never allow images to be loaded from other sites in your forums.

That's cookie stuffing at its very finest. There are countless ways to use this technique, almost all of them black hat. For example, have you ever noticed that once you open up one spam email, the next week you get 50 of them? The spammer has dropped a 1pixel image into your email, so by opening up the file you are verifying your existence because the 1pixel image runs a php script that says 'hey, the guy at hello@hotmail.com just opened me'.

So think about it, if cookie stuffing was the culprit then you wouldn't be seeing affiliate = none . You'd be seeing affiliate = spammer the whole time.

Anyway, just like Uncle Ben says to Peter Parker 'with great power comes great responsibility'. Don't use this for evil
#main internet marketing discussion forum #cookie #explained #stuffing
  • Hi Mike...

    Just a little somethin for ya..

    When me and greenovni were discussing stuffing earlier on.. we were NOT saying cookie stuffing was the problem.. we were saying it was a way to find a solution.. at no point did we say cookie stuffing was the issue in that discussion.

    We were using it as a means to push a cookie to set, CB was not setting cookies in our examples

    Peace

    Jay
  • Yup,

    I read the thread and understood what you guys were trying to do. I completely agree with both of you as well, if dumping a cookie on the user helps kick CB's system into gear ill be adding the same thing to my sites.
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    • Cool.. didn't want you thinking we were off our nuts or anythin..lol....

      Peace dude

      Jay
  • Hi,

    amazing post. Is it ok to do that?

    I'm only asking because I don't know.

    Cheers
  • Thanks for that very informative post
  • See, I have been doing this on my site for a while now.

    It increased my sales greatly! Today for example I have had 12 affiliate sales and 7 of them came from these stuffed cookies... so, it is safe to say it may have doubled my sales.

    I never knew it was "black hat" or could be used for bad until I recently started hearing people shun it. Up until today I did not even know HOW it was used for bad.

    So, 2 days ago I got an email from Clickbank that linked to one of my pages and said "This page has recently been brought to our attention. We do not allow cookie stuffing. Remove it immediately and email us when you do."

    I emailed them back explaining that I am simply stuffing the cookie for the one product on that page and I would like them to explain why I need to remove it if I am in no way stealing other people's commissions or doing anything unethical.

    They still haven't responded, but I haven't gotten a sale for that product since (I used to sell a few a day), so I think they may have killed my link for it.

    Moral of the story: Clickbank is pissing me off!
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    • If you think that's effective...

      Try using this technique on a mass mail out. Anyone who opens up an email in gmail, yahoo, hotmail or any webmail service will have the cookie dropped on them.

      Alas I have given up such shifty ways because its like building a business on quicksand.

      But its fun to game any system every now and then
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  • al_clark7 According to the TOS of most affiliate services the answer is NO.

    Ebay is suing the people at DP for cookie stuffing. Not sure if they will get far as there is no actual law (that I know of) that says it's illegal too cookie stuff.
  • matthewd Wow, that's BS. First their service is going bonkers & you cannot place codes on your own websites?
  • I really think that this is a good idea, you ought to get credit for your hard work!
  • I would just like to add that I do not advocate or encourage the use of cookie stuffing in the open market for sales and never have or will do. It's not my thing.
  • Thanks for the post Mike, I'll be honest I didn't fully understand cookie stuffing, Ill save that post.
  • Wow ... never looked into it, or thought about it. Pure evil :-) Almost every other company in a couple of my financial niches that advertises on PPC has affiliate programs. I get 4-5000 visits a day ... so would be very tempting.
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    • So how do I stand a chance of ever making a commission through Clickbank or any other affiliate program. I have always had a weird feeling and wondered why I have never gotten ONE affiliate sale through CB...not that I'm any sort of whiz at this yet but I know that I spent about a hundred on PPC one month and not one affilate sale....got lots of click...but not one sale. I had decided this run through that I wouldn't promote anything that I didn't have 100% control over the website or landing page, checkout and delivery of product. Call me paranoid but I sure could use that hundred that I paid on PPC this month...live and learn I guess....

      I had started cloaking my links but now I'm super paranoid...thanks guys! LOL!
  • I still think stuffing is the primary problem, and if you consider that Clickbank may be on to many of these affiliates, and banning their accounts, then you would have to imagine the referer would be "none" in those cases.

    Bottom line is that the vast majority of customers are absolutely clueless as to the intricacies of cookies, black hat, or any kind of IM means and methods in general.

    Because of this, "stuffing" continues to cost a lot of people commissions.

    Best!
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    • That's true; the other people should have had their cookies stuffed too then. Through your thinking, these others wouldn't "deserve" the commission either, so what's the point? As far as ripping off the merchant as you mentioned earlier, how is it ripping the merchant off if it was affiliates that sent the sale to him/her?

      Did you also look at my post above expressing the statistics. Before the Clickbank tracking issues, this was bringing in about 15% of my sales... now b/c of the tracking issue, it is bringing in over 50% of my sales.

      SO if I were to remove the stuffed cookie, I would be losing out on sales that Clickbank is screwing me out of.
    • Doesnt matter if the cookie was stuffed on the previous page, if they go to another site and click on the link there the new cookie will over ride the stuffed one.

      Stuffed cookies work the same as any other if the buyer clicks on someones link after they have visited the site that has cookie stuffing pixels on it the last affiliate will get the sale

      Robert
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  • Take this situation!

    - Someone goes to a site with a rave review about a product.
    - The customer clicks through and is very tempted to buy but wants to do more searching
    - They search for something like '<product name> sucks'
    - You've optimized for '<product name> sucks' and talk about how crap it is
    - On your sucks page you stuff them with a cookie
    - They decide the positive review is enough proof for them to buy but the person who actually sold them on the item gets nothing because you cheated the system.

    matthewd, I'm not suggesting this is your technique but its a good example of how the system wouldn't work. It's too open to holes like this. The rules are in place and bug 90% of people because of what the shifty 10% of people might try to do.

    Whether we like it or not, Clickbank is the giant for digital products and unless someone comes in with huge clout and massive bank its going to stay that way for a while. So we play by their rules or promote different products.
  • I see what you are saying Mike... I always hated that 10% that screw everything up for us that play by the rules!

    I never give a negative review about a product. I don't fake good ones though, if it sucks, I just pass it up and don't bother touching it... I am not going to lie about a product and I am not going to bash a product, so it is best for me to skip it.

    Anyway, I use my cookie stuffing for good... and I will continue to do it as long as Clickbank's screwing their tracking up. Right now it is simply an "Insurance Policy" for me to get my commissions.
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    • Cheers for the info Mike. I was never really 100% sure what cookie stuffing is even after reading about the guy on Digital Point being busted for it.
  • Harvey,

    That is a difficult way to do it... I just add an image tag to my affiliate link.
  • Interesting...

    I first heard Jim Morris of NicheBot talk about this, oh, around 18 months or 2 years ago. He called it a SAC (Secret Affiliate Cookie).

    I thought something sounded a bit "iffy" about it, but I was more or less a complete web noob then so I let it pass because what did I know?

    It stuck with me, though, and more recently Andre Chaperon has promoted it and has a page to generate such cookies. There is no mention of the term "stuffing" though (surprise, surprise).

    Having been around the block a few times, I recognised it , but I wasn't sure what it was called. I thought it was "cookie-stuffing" but I wasn't 100%. I've been meaning to email and ask, but this appears to answer my question so thank you, Mike.

    So, will this get you banned from the major affiliate networks,then?

    If so, why do people advocate such things to newbies in their ebooks, etc.? That just seems grossly irresponsible to me.

    @Andre & Jim: Have I got it wrong, fellas? Want to weigh in on the discussion here, perchance?

    @Harvey: You say you "rarely" cookie stuff. So what is a "good" example, then, of this practice (if such a thing exists)?

    Cheers,
    TheNightOwl
  • So were did they get the URL from? Did you put it in your pre selling copy?
    If so, I think you don't deserve teh credit for the sale at all

    Btw, interesting discussion and good to see who operated on a shade of gray side.
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    • They could get the URL from all over the place. I target people in the late stages of the buying cycle, so odds are that the people I am targeting have looked over the merchant site and decided to do some research.

      I don't list a URL in my page, but if I did, why would that make me not deserve credit for the sale? That wouldn't make me any less the one that they decided to buy on.

      AND I don't see at all how it could be considered "a shade of grey." I am not stealing anyone else's commissions. As I said earlier, it acts as an insurance policy for my commissions.

      TheNightOwl - I believe the "good" circumstance of using it is what I have been referring to doing. I only put the cookie on my review page and it ends up saving me TONS of sales that it appears Clickbank would have otherwise lost me.

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  • What about web browsers like Firefox with NoScript and AdBlockPlus enabled? Doesn't that bring this method of cookie stuffing to a halt? Just wanted someone to confirm there are ways to stop such behavior on the end user side, if desired.
  • well you dont even need to fake "PHP"...you can also specify a 1x1pixel picture and "display" it at some insane position, like 5000pixels to the left of the actual site. works too.

    Edit:

    Classic Method:
    Code:
    <img style="position:absolute;left:-2000px;width:1px;height:1px;"src="http://affiliatelink.org">
    you see that the "source" for that image can be any affiliate link, that link will be excuted and a cookie will be set. Still trying to understand where your "PHP" comes in there, theres no need for any PHP code.
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    • The PHP method he is talking about isn't needed on your own site...it was just used by forum cookie stuffers mainly. Images in signatures etc...
  • TheNightOwl - I'd be willing to bet that 99% of the people I sell to have no idea about affiliates and cookies getting me a commission. I don't sell affiliate stuff in the IM market.

    Your scenario is based around the person knowing about affiliate links and deliberately trying to avoid "my" affiliate link.

    And I understand you were not saying that I don't give honest, balanced and comprehensive reviews... but I do.

    I am not just throwing up a page that says "Oh, it's SO good... BUY IT RIGHT NOW!!! It will change your life forever!!!"
  • Using php is just a method of keeping from being discovered stuffing cookies, you can use php to not stuff a cookie if there is no referrer,among other things.
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  • Wow, we are not going to agree on this at all.

    I see where you guys are coming from... but I still think your theory has a hole in it b/c the person you are saying deserves the sale didn't make them buy either if they still did a bunch of surfing.

    I do see what you are saying and I am not saying you an idiot or anything... I just say we disagree on it.

    I also think it might be better as he said earlier to cookie after they click... which I guess would just be to send them to a redirect page that also stuffs the cookie?
  • Matthewd,

    Thanks for the information about how cookie stuffing works.

    While I will not directly comment on the morality of it , if it works for you so be it.

    Cramming GIF's with code is and has been going on for a long time and will continue to be a simple way to hide code , for good or evil.

    Don't hate the play'a.... Hate the game
  • I don't see what is being hijacked? You "stuff" a visitor with cookies. He doesn't buy. Then he hops on to another affiliate's page - he gets his affiliate cookie, he buys from him - the other affiliate gets the commission since he overwrote your "stuffed" cookie. In essence the cookie is still being saved by clickbank and read by clickbank. Now if you could save cookies as if it were clickbank - that would be blackhat.
    Totally agree with you man. We should create a secret "blackhat for fun... and profit" society or something

    In the spirit of discussion here's a legal cookie stuffing technique for CB I just came up with. Create a publisher account at CB, then an affiliate one. Make you review page you publisher's sales page. Now send visitors via your affiliate link to your sales page. Voila - they now have you affiliate id in their cookies.

    @Harvey

    What else could there be...
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  • At the end of the day, use your own moral compass and decide if you want to use the technique or not. But you must know that its against the terms of service of the major affiliate networks.

    To answer the why use PHP question ... You should use PHP in this technique because its more secretive to the end user, the browser and any software that might try to block it because as far as your browser is concerned you are just viewing an image.

    The problem with using an image tag is that its easy to spot, and matthewd that is probably the reason that you got caught since someone only needs to view your page source to know what you're doing.
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  • Mathew,

    It might just look like the stuffing is saving you. ClickBank *might* be working on a way to not overwriting cookies unless they are X old. To keep people/buyers from stealing. Or an number of other reasons.

    You say you deserve it, yada yada. Well, here is an example of when you don't.

    I find your site looking for X and don't click the link because the review sucks or you make the product look like it wont do what I need. I go back to Google and a few links down from yours is the creator of the product. His sales letter is great and it conviences me.

    In this example, you stole from the creator. It could also be the reason your stuffed cookies get more sales. Not because you deserve it. This happens a lot, atleast with me.

    Stuff when people click and see if the stuffs still get more.
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    • Wow, you guys need to start reading before responding.

      1) People have already given their examples of disagreeing with me. Their's are all the same except you replaced "other affiliate" with the "merchant."

      2) I have said twice now I like the idea of stuffing after the click and I am going to look into how I can do that.

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  • Were you speaking with your eyes closed too when you said "thanks?"

    Okay, it may be simple to you... I am not good with the technical stuff at all, so it is not simple to me "thanks."

    The site I do it on is a big Joomla site and every time I need to change something, I have to talk it over with a tech guy first and see what it takes and see if I need to pay him to do it for me.

    So... there IS something to look into.

    I have said many times already that I see where you guys are coming from... I understand it; I just personally don't have a problem with it. No need for everyone to get pissy and go into attack mode.
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    • It was italicized for a reason.
      Disagreeing isn't an attack mode. Showing how you are possibly stealing from people, isn't attacking.

      You are taking it as attacks because you are being defensive about your rationalizations of your actions.

      When ClickBank cancels your account and doesn't pay the funds, be sure to let us know.
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  • Criminals always try to rationalize or justify what they do also...........
  • on a side-note, back to the subject, i have a question:

    Doesn't any new cookie overwrite whatever cookie is on the PC?

    So...Mr "BlackHat Stuffer" could stuff Joe User with cookies, but when he goes to my site via valid hoplink he gets a new one...and my cookie is the last recent one..therefore its irrelevant whether someone stuffed him?

    G.
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    • Yeah, the newest affiliate link overwrites the previous one.
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  • Wow.....What a read.

    You know alot of people have missed the most important part of selling, regardless of cookies. and that is if you can't add VALUE to a customer then your no different than ANY other site, affiliate or otherwise.

    There is a BETTER way to win the prospect and it has always worked since marketing began. That is.......offer value in the form of a REAL BONUS.
    This will always work because at the end of the day reviews are reviews are reviews and the searcher needs that little extra, i think, for using up his time searching for a site/review that 'sells' him on the product.

    And i mean a bonus that 'compliments' the main product and not rehashed junk. Like a report that fills in the blanks of the product your promoting (of which you did get to check out to see if you would 'really' want to buy it yourself)

    Lastly, if your confident in a product i think your review (and bonus) would stand out in the affiliate crowd and people would conceive you as genuine and trustworthy person...another reason why you SHOULD put your face on your review page so a reviewer can see that someone real is giving a real review.Chow,

    Robbie
  • could you plain explain this to me...i seem not to get something.

    On BHW i read that people making a fortune with CS.

    So..i stuff up someone with 100 CB cookies, but i would only get credit for a sale if the user (later on) would decide he wants to buy a product, say, from CB.....and if he goes to the vendor page directly and NOT through another affiliate link?!

    So...its basically stealing from the publishers (their profit MINUS commission)...but not from other affilates?

    I am still stumped over those extreme high profit claims over at BHW..key seems to be to do some really dirty things like forum stuffing and stuff thousands and thousands of people...and then depend on how many og those people would buy something in the future directly from the vendor?

    G.
  • If someone realizes your are "cookie stuffing" they will have a lot less respect for your company than they did before. In the end this could hurt your sales and ruin your repuation as a website owner/company. I wouldn't advise this route guys.
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    • Here's why cookie stuffing is lame, and downright theft.

      Insert "Guru John" (name just made up).

      Guru John has a huge following. Tons of people love John. John also happens to be my number one affiliate. I make good money from John.

      Sadly, John stuffs the hell out of cookies.

      John also has many members who happen to be my affiliates as well. These people don't make nearly the amount of money that John does. They are struggling and hoping to make ends meet through affiliate marketing.

      So, the little guy affiliate goes out and busts his ass to make some sales for my program. And he does a good job. He makes some sales. But guess what?

      John's cookie stuffing has over-ridden the little guys cookie.

      Now, I could just shut my mouth and continue to keep banking mad cashola. I get paid either way. It doesn't matter which affiliate makes the sale, I still get paid the same.

      But it irks the hell out of me.

      And it's stealing from the little guy. And the little guy somehow thinks John is the greatest thing since sliced bread, yet doesn't know that they are having their commissions stolen from their own hero.

      Total bullshit it you ask me.

      Hence why I now ban John and any affiliates I find stuffing cookies for my affiliate program.

      Did I lose out on more sales?

      Yes!

      Did I stand up for what was right?

      You bet your ass I did.

      There may be other instances where I would be okay with cookie stuffing. I'm not exactly sure what those instances would be, but I don't think every cookie stuffer is a criminal that should be hung.

      But when it's stealing from your own community members it's a big problem.
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  • Also, I'm shocked that anyone would be so stupid as to admit doing this stuff on this forum.

    You seriously don't think people will rat you out?

    I mean blatantly taunting Clickbank to terminate your account? Not wise.
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    • I admitted to it and admitted to my reasoning as well.

      It is not blatantly taunting Clickbank, it was proven the other day that this is solving the Clickbank tracking issue and I was bringing that up to people and showing them numbers.

      I also admitted to the fact that it would be better to stuff after the click, which is what I am going to try to do once I talk to my tech guy on Monday. I had never thought about this until it was pointed out above.

      I understand that I am outnumbered in my thinking and I am open minded, so I definitely think I could be in the wrong if every one sees it differently.

      Honestly, before today, or yesterday or whenever this damn thread started, I had never even thought of it affecting other people.
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    • Not to mention the fact they HAVE been known to visit this forum and read the latest threads pertaining to them over the years when they WERE having issues they were working to resolve...
    • This was the very first thing that popped into my mind as well. It's like you're begging them to whack you. No?
  • I don't see how cookie stuffing can be an actual fix for these cookie setting problems anyway. If there is a problem with cookies being set then it won't/shouldn't matter whether the merchant site is loaded via a faked image or by them clicking your link.

    If the server and browser aren't communicating properly, the cookie won't be set regardless of which method you use.

    Am I missing something?

    How is it possible to load the merchant site via a faked image and set a cookie if the same cookie can not be set by them clicking the link.
  • Hmmm. Interesting debate.

    All I can think of is how many times I've landed on a site that I back right out of because it's obviously some kind of spammy cr*p. Now I have a *reason* to be annoyed by those sites. Do I want them to get money because I wasted a quarter of a second of my time on their site? Heck no.

    Makes me want to clear my cookies (or maybe toss them??)... I've always kept my cookies on principle because I want credit to go where credit is due...
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  • HarveyJ,

    You need a clue.

    They, CB, make the SAME. Poor tracking *could* cost them more because of less affiliate promotion.

    Session tracking can't be done for FUTURE sales. You would need to use IPs and cookies.

    Are you accusing Allen of cookie stuffing?
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    • In my opinion it's not that difficult to see what's ethical and what's not in this context.

      Let's say ClickBank has a problem that make's you lose money that should really have been yours.

      * If you apply some method that reverses the effects of the problem, leaving you with exactly the amount of money that should have been yours initially, not affecting any third party negatively; Ethical.

      * If you apply some method that more or less reverses the effects of the problem, leaving you with more or less the amount of money that should have been yours initially, affecting ClickBank or some third party, be it the merchant or another affiliate, negatively; Unethical.

      If your method makes you receive even one amount that should have been received by someone else, then the method is a setup for theft.

      Easy as that!
  • hi there, as a newbie, i am totally clueless about this cookie thing and now i do know after the information provided by Mike here. thks Mike.

    i totally agreed on this as a BLACK HAT method and anyone who does this stuff is by all means indeed "stealing on others commissions".

    imagine all those people (or rather newbies in this case, as it is always we newbies who lose out to the more experienced marketeers who does all sort of tricks and stuff) who had beforehand done the hard work of pre-selling or worst spend money on ppc to get the customer to reach their sale pages and make the customer click thru. but if the customer did not buy this time round, then a few days later they decided to buy after hearing some rave reviews about the product on some forums etc and they went to google for the product. they opened up all the top 3 to 5 sites on the 1st page linked to this product but then buy directly from the merchant. but guess what, those people who have got the person who clicked thru never got any credit or sale for the effort they put in, why?
    because the commission will always be "hijacked" by the site who managed to rank higher in the searches pages.
    now so are we all going to start stuffing cookies to protect our own interests, because the scenario now is not on who is the last person who successfully pre-sold and make the customer clicked thru, but on who can be the last person who make the person viewed or visited their website before they made any purchase and bingo they got themselves a sale!
    is this the strategy we are looking at?
    so why put a link there for the customer to click if you gonna stuffed a cookie there?
    no need any sale copy, no need any pre-selling, no need to have fancy sale page etc..
    no need to click, cause if you happens to be the last site they visit before they purchased, you got a sale anyway.
    i just hope that clickbank clears up all this mess, and really look into this problem seriously.
    and btw, to all newbies, i think we gonna stop paying ppc to drive traffic to affiliate products cause nobody knows if we actually got the sale a not.
    the IM industry is really getting tougher and tougher to learn, adapt and make a living (for the newbies of course) ..
  • iMericks,

    It's not true. The stuffed cookie will be overwriten IF someone clicks a hoplink. CB isnt a first cookie affiliate program.
  • Hmmm, all very interesting. Some say stuffing is always wrong and that's the end of the story ...and others that it depends on the intent.

    Could not the entire problem be wiped out from both sides of the fence if clickbank introduced another system to both recognise and reward a referrer?

    So let me change the tack of this thread if I may.

    What doable system could clickbank institute to credit an affiliate sale that did not involve cookies at all?

    I'll be interested not only in your creativity in suggesting a system but also in how (the proposer or other forum members) can demonstrate how the new system might also be gamed....i.e the potential flaws.

    Over to you chaps....
  • One way to combat cookie stuffing is to offer a bonus if someone buys through your link. Also ask the buyer to clear his cookies before purchasing. You may even get the added benefit of another name on your list!
  • Wow Interesting thread. I knew people loose affiliate commissions due to cookies, but what I did not know was you could use a method called cookie stuffing... I had never came across that before. Cool I just learned something...

  • cookie stuffing WILL get you dropped by the networks, no matter how hard you try to cloak it.

    here's why.

    Your account ends up with a massive impression rate, and a terrible click thru rate.

    That's an easy collar for the affiliate managers on the nets, and they love to ban people like you. They even have little competitions, to see who can catch the most 'badasses'.
  • Hey guys is there a legitimate way to "stuff" the cookie?

    What about loading the affiliate link as an exit pop-up? Visitor.A comes to my site and exits.. from there the affiliate page pops up.

    Is this also considered "stuffing"?

    Also, if visitor.A comes to my review page and reads a review that makes him want to buy but DOESN'T click and goes direct to the site, I believe in all fairness and honesty I should be awarded the commission as it's my review seen last.

    Louis
  • Hi Mike ... the method you was described is very interesting. Can you explain the steps in detail. I hope you understand because I'm newbie and don't know about website....Thanks
  • I think id like to learn how to do this lol
  • Thanks for the information about how cookie stuffing works.
  • This is an interesting information thanks
  • FALSE

    The email providers are baning that for years already. For instance, did you notice yahoo asks you if you want to see the images inside an email before displaying them? Same for outlook express.

    This works only for websites and not emails and it works in a various ways, including img, script, iframe, or anything that can pull an external resource.

  • Thanks for the detailed post, its seem to be a common way for others to hijack your affiliate links these days. Affiliate link prevention is becoming more secure and more cautious, and it makes you glad you're a member of the warrior forum at times like this! Many thanks for your post, will double check my affiliate links asap!
  • Short Explanation of Cookie Stuffing:

    Getting a commision from buyers that have not actually clicked your affiliate link.

    I suggest that you stay away from cookie stuffing unless you really are an expert in blackhat techniques.
  • Steve...

    suppose you are a salesman selling a TV.. you are the one who introduces the customer to the product.. you showed him what is there to like and if his money is worth it.. but for some reason (any reason) he din't buy it then... he comes in the next day and doesn't find you there... and says " hey i need that sony tv" .. some other guy pops in.. and closes the deal and robs your comission.....

    does that sound fair to you?
    • [1] reply
    • You are trying to justify a all the time solution for a sometime situation.
  • Wow this is really interesting stuff.
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