The Death Of ClickBank

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Theres been quite a few threads popping up everywhere lately all accross the Internet including here on the Warrior forum about Clickbank and cookie tracking issues.

This is a very controverial issue and I've been reading quite a bit about whats going on from both sides, most are logical answers.

The issue I see is that regardless of what people post over and over about the cookie tracking issues, the seed has already been planted and the negative publicity is catching fire and its most likely not going to slow down because the issue is potenitally messing with the lives of thousands of merchants and affiliates both.

So what do Warriors think about this?

Do you think that this is the "death of Clickbank"?

Frank Bruno
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  • Profile picture of the author alexei_aus
    i think CB is too big to die like this.

    They will fix this problem. I hope
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Here is the problem Frank.

      New people who don't attend forums come into the marketplace everyday.

      Many of these don't have a CLUE what is going on or being discussed.

      These are the people who will keep Clickbank in business.

      And even if they DID catch wind of all this talk, having not been personally
      affected by the problems, they're still very likely to go with Clickbank.

      And let's face it, if affiliates start dropping, us diehards will have less
      competition and end up making more sales.

      These things have a way of working themselves out.

      (He says as GM is on the verge of bankruptcy...who would have ever
      thought?)
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      • Profile picture of the author Jakehyten
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        Here is the problem Frank.

        New people who don't attend forums come into the marketplace everyday.

        Many of these don't have a CLUE what is going on or being discussed.

        These are the people who will keep Clickbank in business.

        And even if they DID catch wind of all this talk, having not been personally
        affected by the problems, they're still very likely to go with Clickbank.
        I think this is incorrect because the NEWBIE that goes to clickbank goes there because the recommendation of other marketers.

        A newbie doesnt just say to himself "I want to learn how to make money online. Ill go to clickbank. The number one digital retailer online!"

        No. They buy an ebook, they read a little here and a little there. It is the gurus that mention clickbank. THEN the newbie goes there and signs up.

        IF there is a problem with clickbank then eventually the gurus and ANYONE that wants to be credible will end up not mentioning them and will instead mention something else.

        I think what is going to happen is CB will get their &$*# together.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Sol
    It won't be the death of Clickbank... simply because there is a constant flow of NEWBIE marketers who will find CB before they find IM forums where CB is bashed.... that's just one of the reasons.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kiwigal
    It may not be the death of clickbank but they do need a good kick up the a$$.
    It,s made me weary of using them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Bogowski
    In Australia we have a huge music festival called 'Big Day Out'. It sells out in 1 hour every year. This year the acts at the festival sucked, but it still sold out in 1 hour. Theyd have to have a fair few bad years for it to effect their sales.

    Clickbank is MASSIVE and by far the largest company of its kind. For them to die someone would have to step in and have huge capital behind them.

    Even with that it'd take a hell of a lot to sway everyone to move over. They are just too big. They have their brand and I just can't ever see that being crippled beyond repair.
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    • Profile picture of the author Deek
      Originally Posted by TheEnforcer View Post

      Clickbank sucks . Their tracking is horrible, their system is wide open to fraud and abuse, and even worse, they have the economic downturn to use as a scapegoat if you dare call and inquire about decreased conversions.

      However, they are a necessary evil at this point for affiliate marketers. No one else offers the array of products and services that they do. I do think the door is WIDE OPEN for someone to come in and fill the rapidly increasing void created by disgruntled CB customers who are dropping like flies. Anyone want to step up to the plate?

      I absolutely am willing to step up to the plate...

      if anyone is interested in a more secure, stable, affiliate/merchant friendly enviroment.... PM me with some features you would be interested in and I'll see what i can do to make a reality of this...

      I see a great opportunity, not only because CB is having difficulties at this time, but also because I feel I am capable of delivering a substantially better service....
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    big day out rocks
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
    I remember another popular product that died a horrible death after some seriously bad publicity. It was called... hmmm... Ty... Ty-something.

    Tylenol.

    That's it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
      Originally Posted by faxinator View Post

      I remember another popular product that died a horrible death after some seriously bad publicity. It was called... hmmm... Ty... Ty-something.

      Tylenol.

      That's it.
      Tylenol is not dead- check any pharmacy. That case was the opposite of the CB situation. The makers of Tylenol admitted the problem (someone tampering with the product in stores), took the product off the shelf, and came up with tamper-resistant packaging. They didn't say it wasn't an issue since only a few people died.
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    • Profile picture of the author David Neale
      Within a year Tylenol actually increased market share because of how the handled the problem.

      Originally Posted by faxinator View Post

      I remember another popular product that died a horrible death after some seriously bad publicity. It was called... hmmm... Ty... Ty-something.

      Tylenol.

      That's it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
    Some of the major people on this forum are behind ClickBank. If history proves itself all will be to the benefit of Warriors that trust in this forum.

    Jeffery 100% :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author matthewd
      Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

      Some of the major people on this forum are behind ClickBank. If history proves itself all will be to the benefit of Warriors that trust in this forum.

      Jeffery 100% :-)
      What? Who is behind Clickbank?
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
        Originally Posted by matthewd View Post

        What? Who is behind Clickbank?
        Good people IMHO. They have always prefered to remain discreetly involved for obvious reasons. But just do a search for CB officials and you'll know. Search the old forum and there are a few threads where principals of this community went above and beyond. All good.

        Jeffery 100% :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael D
    I doubt it will die out from this. But, it would be interesting and does raise a good question. Do you have all your eggs in the ClickBank basket?

    I bet a lot of people on here use ClickBank to sell their product and/or promote the bulk of their products. If ClickBank did die today where would your business be?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
      Originally Posted by Michael D View Post

      I doubt it will die out from this. But, it would be interesting and does raise a good question. Do you have all your eggs in the ClickBank basket?

      I bet a lot of people on here use ClickBank to sell their product and/or promote the bulk of their products. If ClickBank did die today where would your business be?
      Agreed. When I look back this is synonymous with "The Wild West of Internet Marketing." Though we will see more than a few IMers riding off into the sunset utilizing more honest internet technology.

      Jeffery 100% :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author spressnell
    OK, since I'm one of the newbies and I have no clue what problems ClickBank may or may not be having, I will just continue and not even ask. That's the same reason I don't watch the news. Because everytime I do, I start to pick up on all of the negativity.

    I really do like this forum. Nice people and great info.


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  • Profile picture of the author Allurre
    CB NEVER PAID ME.. MISSED OUT ON MY SALES AND NEVER GAVE ME MY PERCENTAGE...
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  • Profile picture of the author medmusxx
    Some people need Clickbank for promos and BAN. So it will stay alive.

    Marco
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Anderson
    Clickbank has been notoriously slow to respond to serious issues regarding tracking over the years.

    Think of the Spybot immunization fiasco, the anti cloaking hoplink update etc.

    They have always treated those that support them the most (the affiliates) unfairly by not addressing serious tracking issues immediately and fixing the problems. They let them go for far too long until serious losses in tracked affiliate referrals caused their affiliates to raise a huge stink and force clickbank to act.

    They are like a slow moving dinosaur.

    They are also a huge target for internet security systems because of adware and the huge misconception among novice internet users that cookies are dangerous.

    However, if I am not mistaken Clickbank has already recently improved their tracking issue to deal with the recent cookie only concerns?

    At least that is what they have published... though they have not revealed exactly how and what they have done to address the issue... they are purposefully vague referring instead to "proprietary" adjustments to their tracking system.

    What people should be more concerned about is whether the affiliate management system that they use to run their own affiliate program is only cookie based.

    Additionally everyone in IM should be paying close attention to IE 8. It's coming and its trouble... just remember that when something does not need fixing MS is notorious for making it worse.

    You should not just be worried about the anti cookie and over the top security features in IE 8 but also how other scripts you might be running could be effected by it. You may not be impacted... but you certainly should pay attention to the impact it can have on your business.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarcusXavier
    IMHO, I have never had a problem with CB and their tracking. I get paid every week like clockwork. Let's hope this continues.
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  • Profile picture of the author samstephens
    just remember that when something does not need fixing MS is notorious for making it worse.
    Heh, reminds me of a quote I saw once:

    If it ain't broke, fix it until it is!
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  • Profile picture of the author onlineleben
    If it ain't broke, fix it until it is!
    well said- just put this into powerpoint and put it up in my office
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    • Profile picture of the author Warrior Simon
      the CB thing is a reminder for me
      to get my own product asap
      if you spend all your efforts being an affiliate
      and building other people's businesses
      instead of building your own and creating assets
      like a customer base
      then you get in serious trouble if something like
      this happens
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  • Profile picture of the author chill123
    if CB is so bad where else should i consider launching my first product?
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    • Profile picture of the author JustVisiting
      Originally Posted by chill123 View Post

      if CB is so bad where else should i consider launching my first product?
      I'd launch with CB. No problem for merchants - you'll receive full payment without paying affiliate referral commission. ( if there is a tracking problem )
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  • Profile picture of the author Richelo Killian
    Mr. Filsaime with his PDC should be smiling at the moment, and using all the bad press to get more customers. ;-)

    Here in the UK, I saw a classic one a couple of weeks back. With all the bad news about banks, and banks being bailed out by the government, one of the banks, which is NOT being bailed out, ran a full 2 page add in ALL the newspapers: "Upgrade your banking now!"

    Come on Mr. Filsaime, get your marketing muscle moving! ;-)

    Thank goodness I run everything off my own FANTASOS, and this is not affecting my own sales. It IS affecting all the CB affiliate stuff I promote though, and it is turning out to be a huge chunk of my income!
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  • Profile picture of the author Platinum Matt
    Merchants get bashed but let me tell you, I haven't seen ANY change in the amount of sales on a percentage basis that my affiliates make to the sales I make.

    Do Clickbank have problems? Probably.

    Do the problems ONLY affect affiliates? No.

    I just want them to QUICKLY address any and all issues, and ADMIT TO ISSUES WHEN THEY FIND THEM... Keep us all more informed. If they said "this is the problem and we are working to fix it" we'd all feel a whole lot better about them.

    When I tried PDC it was absolutely RUBBISH, admittedly, they may have made improvements since then, I don't know - but that's one I definitely won't be switching to.

    Clickbank have time and they WON'T die because there is still no serious, viable competition.
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  • Profile picture of the author lexilexi
    Everyone's dissing Clickbank like it's the new trend - but you're all missing one simple point:

    They're number one because no-one's come along and done it better.

    Everyone can whine about how crap they are but the fact is they are better than everyone else.

    Putting an operation on that scale together is complex on a level that most people can't get their head around.

    Everyone acts like CB is either lazy or immoral or something but its a bunch of bull.

    They have some tech issues.

    So does pretty much every major site on the planet when it comes to dealing with all the gamers, spammers and black hats out there - some of whom are incredibly accomplished - and are constantly seeking ways through the defenses.

    Anyway I'm a firm believer that cream floats. All someone has to do is come up with a better system and the nature of the web, viral thing that it is, means that the new thing will rise to the top.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    i am getting scared. Having a real bad strain of basically ZERO affiliate sales (2000 hops...no sale!)...and that CB CSR lady basically telling us "No, actually sales have increased" - which is in strong contrast to whatever affiliates complain about lately.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
      Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

      i am getting scared. Having a real bad strain of basically ZERO affiliate sales (2000 hops...no sale!)...and that CB CSR lady basically telling us "No, actually sales have increased" - which is in strong contrast to whatever affiliates complain about lately.
      Same here... I've got over 1000 hops and 0 sales... promoting multiple products to very targeted buyers... (I wouldn't have that many hops if my visitors were'nt interested)

      I think we are just sending free traffic to the merchants...

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  • Profile picture of the author patchman
    Yeah saw a notification about hoplink problems and that they have sorted it out, anyways its just a combination of things, make sure you diversify guys!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Matt James
      Well I dunno...I got a glut of Clickbank sales this morning after days of nothing.

      Almost as if they were being saved up or...a certain problem has suddenly been fixed. Hmmm....
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      • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
        Originally Posted by Matt James View Post

        Well I dunno...I got a glut of Clickbank sales this morning after days of nothing.

        Almost as if they were being saved up or...a certain problem has suddenly been fixed. Hmmm....
        That's actually happened me twice (3x more sales than normal on 2 particular days) - I definitely think they were catch up sales rather than anything being fixed though, because my account was back to below normal sales again the next day .
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  • Profile picture of the author dianarupert
    I don't really think that Clickbank would just die like that. Clickbank is an internet marketing institution. But I hope Clickbank would not die like AIG or Lehman Brothers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Matt James
      That's actually happened me twice (3x more sales than normal on 2 particular days) - I definitely think they were catch up sales rather than anything being fixed though, because my account was back to below normal sales again the next day
      Yeah you could be right Hamida, the sales I received were my own vendor sales though...not affiliate ones.

      I guess that puts paid to it being the affiliate hoplink problem, I still believe they have an actual payment processor issue.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Piteo
    It could be a combination of economy and CB tracking issues. I just saw this on CNN this morning.

    "Government reports retail sales plunged 2.8 percent in October, worst monthly drop since record keeping began in 1992."

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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
      Originally Posted by John Piteo View Post

      It could be a combination of economy and CB tracking issues. I just saw this on CNN this morning.

      "Government reports retail sales plunged 2.8 percent in October, worst monthly drop since record keeping began in 1992."

      John
      If people's CB sales were only down 2.8% I don't think all these CB threads would exist.
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  • Profile picture of the author richfit
    Clickbanks not going anywhere at the moment or any time in the near future. They are in the process of fixing those bugs or issues you may find threatening.

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  • Profile picture of the author Prashaant
    It's strange, but another network I work with had the same problem of tracking and they blamed it on the bad eco.... they're ok now and sales are back. I used to make a full time living only with clickbank.... lucky for me I don't depend on CB so much now.. just organic traffic..
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  • Profile picture of the author TheMagicShow
    Clickbank needs to start fixing these problems or or else they will start having less merchants and affiliates, merchants go to clickbank for the affiliates (most do) and if the affiliates are getting no aff commissions, then they will stop flocking to CB and the merchants (non gurus) will eventually take their business somewhere else.
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    Also I forgot to add this, the ppc affiliates will stop working with cb if this problem keeps going on, ppc affiliates invest good amounts of money into their campaigns and having a situation where there are 200-2000 hops and no sales = no more involvement with cb, that is for sure!
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  • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
    Hard coding and IP relation tracking will prevail... I have already told that lady at CB where they can get programmers to correct this issue..

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    p.s. The Death of clickbank?.. nah.. just will make them pull their socks up... in their own time, apparently..lol
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    • Profile picture of the author Aaron Moser
      Doesn't everyone know that Clickbank tracks by IP and cookies? If cookies are unavailable the system will track you by IP. I've read this on their site somewhere but I'm too lazy to go digging for the information right now.

      I haven't heard one mention of this in all the ClickBank posts recently. The IP tracking works too! If you want to test it out (which I have not done it several months) all you have to do it disable your cookies and try a hoplink you've never been to before. You'll see.

      Thanks for this post Frank Bruno. I hope more and more people start running scared from ClickBank cause that will mean less competition for the rest of us.
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      • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
        Originally Posted by Aaron Moser View Post

        Doesn't everyone know that Clickbank tracks by IP and cookies? If cookies are unavailable the system will track you by IP. I've read this on their site somewhere but I'm too lazy to go digging for the information right now.

        I haven't heard one mention of this in all the ClickBank posts recently. The IP tracking works too! If you want to test it out (which I have not done it several months) all you have to do it disable your cookies and try a hoplink you've never been to before. You'll see.

        Thanks for this post Frank Bruno. I hope more and more people start running scared from ClickBank cause that will mean less competition for the rest of us.
        The kind of IP tracking that CB does is nowhere near as detailed as it needs to be Aaron...
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      • Profile picture of the author David Neale
        Aaaron I assume that they would track the IP if the referring website not the user. Tracking the user IP would be quite useless as far as I can see.

        Tracking the referring websites IP would make some sense but that has some issues also. The site changes it's IP (how would CB know), two merchants are somehow sharing an IP (common these days), not all browsers pass the referring sites IP along (most but not all).

        The whole cookie system is dead going forward. There is no way a multi-million industry can continue to flourish with cookies being deleted left and right and marketing costs like AdWords on the rise. Something has got to give. When tens of thousands of dollars are at stake for affiliates the lowly cookie is just not going to cut it.

        Discount and coupon codes will probably become more commonplace pretty soon now. It's already huge in some of the higher end affiliate deals. CB needs to support a system like this yesterday.

        I also think selling things from the merchant site alone will change, there are things that can occur there that can lose me the sale. I should be able to host my own sales page, even if it's a near duplicate of the merchants, and send the client direct to the CB purchase page (bypass the merchant alltogether). Not perfect but better. Some merchants allow this but most don't (at least as far as I know).


        Originally Posted by Aaron Moser View Post

        Doesn't everyone know that Clickbank tracks by IP and cookies? If cookies are unavailable the system will track you by IP. I've read this on their site somewhere but I'm too lazy to go digging for the information right now.

        I haven't heard one mention of this in all the ClickBank posts recently. The IP tracking works too! If you want to test it out (which I have not done it several months) all you have to do it disable your cookies and try a hoplink you've never been to before. You'll see.

        Thanks for this post Frank Bruno. I hope more and more people start running scared from ClickBank cause that will mean less competition for the rest of us.
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        • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
          Originally Posted by David Neale View Post

          The whole cookie system is dead going forward. There is no way a multi-million industry can continue to flourish with cookies being deleted left and right and marketing costs like AdWords on the rise. Something has got to give. When tens of thousands of dollars are at stake for affiliates the lowly cookie is just not going to cut it.
          This is exactly my thoughts on this as well.

          Cookies are just an antiquated system. It worked its best in earlier times.

          Now theres no future in it with all the new browser settings, spyware,security settings on systems, and now dynamic I.Ps with wireless and landline networks are more prevailent.

          Cookies just seems so primitive now.

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  • Profile picture of the author looseleafpress
    I think the real issue is that the use of cookie based systems are subject to problems. Especially, since each successive release of browsers make setting and retaining cookies more and more problematic.

    ClickBank will not go away, they will evolve.
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  • Profile picture of the author lennelljones
    I just believe that this means that the fire is finally being lit under Clickbank, and they will have to improve their system.

    In the end, it will probably be a better system for everyone.
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  • Profile picture of the author patchman
    People forget that there are still guys making lots of money on clickbank, I think people are too quick to blame clickbank when sales are down when it can b other factors like, loss of SERPS rankings, increased competition, less demand in their niche at certain times of the year, economy, and so forth. Blaming clickbank is the easy way out , Diversification is certainly the way to go dudes!!
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  • Profile picture of the author tommygadget
    Didn't your mother tell you not to put all your eggs in one basket? There's good logic and reasoning behind that old adage. Make sure you diversify your income streams. People who don't can have their entire businesses wiped out with a single "update".

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    • Profile picture of the author clbnc
      Originally Posted by tommygadget View Post

      Didn't your mother tell you not to put all your eggs in one basket? There's good logic and reasoning behind that old adage. Make sure you diversify your income streams. People who don't can have their entire businesses wiped out with a single "update".

      TomG.
      I was just going to say basically the same thing.

      What I will be doing is having business relationships with multiple affiliate programs. The one that makes the most business sense for a given site/page/article marketing barrage/ppc campaign/whatever is the one(s) that will have my business.

      At this point, this seems like a sound business policy. I will modify it as needed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Veredfu
      Tracking is one problem, but there is also the problem of affiliate commission theft that they do very little or nothing about it. I think they could diminish at least this problem to some extent by not allowing people to buy from their own links. And by assuring that the merchants do not put a link for affiliation on the sales page.

      In any case I believe CB will determine if it's the death of CB. They may use the challenge as positive "shake" to improve where its needed, or they may waste time in making useless excuses. That's up to them. I hope they will rise to the challenge.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
        Originally Posted by Veredfu View Post

        Tracking is one problem, but there is also the problem of affiliate commission theft that they do very little or nothing about it. I think they could diminish at least this problem to some extent by not allowing people to buy from their own links. And by assuring that the merchants do not put a link for affiliation on the sales page.
        That's a great way to avoid getting any affiliates. How do you propose people find them?

        Just how would they know if you are buying through your own link?

        Have you ever put a product on CB?
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        • Profile picture of the author onlineleben
          And by assuring that the merchants do not put a link for affiliation on the sales page.
          Originally Posted by Chris Lockwood View Post

          That's a great way to avoid getting any affiliates. How do you propose people find them?
          Those that are looking for affiliate products usually can clearly identify the hop link or they check out the cb marketplace
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          • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
            Originally Posted by onlineleben View Post

            Those that are looking for affiliate products usually can clearly identify the hop link or they check out the cb marketplace
            You won't get many affiliates from the marketplace unless your product is already selling well.

            Which hop link are you saying they would identify?
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  • Profile picture of the author Osaide
    Click bank can not die but I know if there is any problem with the cookies stuff it will be put back in order and i blieve click bank officials are working towards it.

    Long live click bank.

    Osa
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  • Profile picture of the author Osaide
    Click bank has been tremedeous
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  • Profile picture of the author Marc2008
    I am reposting this from what I said on Steve's Tread

    Wow, this whole thing has me down now. I was just getting ready to go on a first time ever campaign promoting some clickbank products using review pages.

    Man this hurts. I have loss a lot of motivation for that now. I guess affiliate marketing does have its limits.

    I did hear Matt Furey say one time about online marketing that "you never want to be in a position in your business that if something is taking away from you your dead in the water"

    "Then you dont really have a REAL business."
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    • Profile picture of the author Rich Rollend
      Originally Posted by Marc2008 View Post

      I am reposting this from what I said on Steve's Tread

      Wow, this whole thing has me down now. I was just getting ready to go on a first time ever campaign promoting some clickbank products using review pages.

      Man this hurts. I have loss a lot of motivation for that now. I guess affiliate marketing does have its limits.

      I did hear Matt Furey say one time about online marketing that "you never want to be in a position in your business that if something is taking away from you your dead in the water"

      "Then you dont really have a REAL business."
      Thanks Marc2008, It never occurred to me that I should not rely solely on one company for my business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marc2008
    Rich Rollend said
    "Thanks Marc2008, It never occurred to me that I should not rely solely on one company for my business."

    HaHa, well sorry to tell you Mr. Rollend but by looking at some of the comments here and in other threads some people have soley relied on CB and some other things. If CB were to go down (which of course I hope it does not) people will feel the hurt in their bank accounts.

    Maybe your not one of those people so you should not care. And I am not going to lie. As a newbie this a reality check from me also. Even tho I have not been effected by this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Louis Raven
    Who's dying today, Paypal, eBay? oh Clickbank OK cool.

    No reason account freezing!

    No more selling digital items!

    No more customer feedback!

    I wish something really would kick the bucket 'cos I'm tired of these big companies taking the pee thinking an oil-man wont come along one day and take their weakness as a USP.

    I've been trying to follow this CB story but I'm lost, if they do track with IP also then why are we losing commissions?

    Also, has Spybot not been around for ages, why the kerfuffle now?

    As Craig David once said, can you fill me in please.

    Louis
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg Cooksley
    There are now so many threads talking about this Clickbank issue
    and as to be expected, very little information or acknowledgment
    coming out of Clickbank......

    I know others have asked, but what reliable alternatives are
    there that provide close to what Clickbank offers?

    Regards

    Greg
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  • Profile picture of the author spudzz
    Tracking by a dynamic ISP IP address is like using a GPS system with an accuracy of 20 miles instead of 3 feet.

    Whatever ClickBank comes back with, tracking by IP address and cookies are methods that should have gone out with the trash in 2006, if not earlier. There are obvious problems with unique page pass throughs as most cross scripting filters would block them and so we're left with coupons which, although not ideal, would also give further opportunities for affiliates to add value and avoid some of the worst excesses of vendor squeeze pages etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author KevinS2k
    I'd Like to see Coupon Codes.

    And tighter return polices at maximum- a 14 day return policy.
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    • Profile picture of the author Platinum Matt
      Originally Posted by KevinS2k View Post

      I'd Like to see Coupon Codes.

      And tighter return polices at maximum- a 14 day return policy.
      Longer return policies increase conversions and reduce refunds.

      I'd like them to make it 1 year returns.
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  • Profile picture of the author Franck Silvestre
    It's a proven fact that I do better with my non-clickbank affiliate products, but what can we do?

    ... Still promoting clickbank ebooks and software.

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  • Profile picture of the author onlineleben
    Which hop link are you saying they would identify?
    Chris, I meant when someone finds an interesting product (by accident) which is linked by an other affiliate.
    (Maybe my comment wa´s not so accuarate.)
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  • Profile picture of the author gimmick
    Yes, because of this problem, its possible some affiliates don't get paid even though the visitor purchased the product through his landing page. The cookie system should be fixed and fast!
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  • Profile picture of the author cesarsan
    I wish I had the money to capitalize on Clickbank's incompetence, slowness and ineptness. Interesting how market opportunities like this one aren't taken by someone.

    Amazon at least is making Ebay eat dust.
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  • Profile picture of the author JoeyAtlas
    If anything - it will make CB improve it's process...

    There are people making a lot of money AT CB - I'm sure they don't want to go looking for work anytime soon...

    - just because they're not issuing an 'official statement' that satisfies everyone doesn't mean they're not working on a better long term solution...

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  • Profile picture of the author coreytucker
    Clickbank has been screwy lately....I hope they fix these problems.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dontrell Lyons
    Yeah I make a lot of money from Clickbank it would be sad to see it go away over a few mishaps.

    If it does happen, I gathering a few marketers together to create a bigger and better one, because that market is wide open!

    There's only 3 affiliate networks that are like Clickbank! Can make a lot of money setting this up properly.

    Anybody want in? lol
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