by alanc3
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Hey warriors i just have a quick question on unique content.

I have read on the forum that people are posting unique articles on their website and then submitting the same article to Ezine directory.
Does this not make your content duplicate?

Many thanks for your help
#content #unique
  • Profile picture of the author bigalan6622
    Duplicate content penalty is a myth.
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  • Profile picture of the author keadams26
    Just make sure you don't have duplicate content within your own site. That's it.
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    • Profile picture of the author dustinthetoucan
      Already been said. I did what your talking about with posting on site first, and that article on my site is doing the best. No penalty if it's on different sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
    What you are describing is not "duplicate content". You are talking about "article syndication" and they are two different things.

    Being penalized for syndicating articles is a myth. The Duplicate Content penalty is not.

    If you syndicate an article by posting on your site and then submitting that article to several directories, there is no penalty because that is called "Article Syndication" and you did nothing wrong.

    If, on the other hand, you duplicate blocks of keyword stuffed text over and over again on your site, "Duplicate Content", in an attempt to fool Google into giving you a better ranking, there can be a penalty and it can include having your site removed from the listings.
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  • Profile picture of the author bigalan6622
    Yes but OP asked about posting content on their website then to article directories also.
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    • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
      Originally Posted by bigalan6622 View Post

      Yes but OP asked about posting content on their website then to article directories also.
      That's called Article Syndication. It is perfectly fine and Chris Knight the owner at EzineArticles even talks about this on his blog.

      Again, no problem for article syndication.
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      • Profile picture of the author alanc3
        Thanks guys that has been a great help and now i can start posting all my articles from my website into article directories such as Ezine. I always thought that if your website displayed content that was repeated on any other site then you would be penalised in rankings

        This forum and everyone that contributes their help and ideas is awesome!
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        • Profile picture of the author petevamp
          Just make sure that before you post your content else where that the original on your site has already been indexed. If not you could run into a few problems on getting it indexed later even if you did post it to your site first.

          The way I do it is I create an article for my site. Once I see the article has been indexed in google by doing site:url latestest search. I then start with ezine first and follow with the others after the one on ezine has been approved. Now certain sites like hubpages and others seem to have a problem with this but the best thing I can say is try see which ones will allow this first with one of your already published articles.

          If you find a site like hubpages that does not allow already posted content then you can hit most of the other article sites. The more you get your single piece of content distributed to several different locations. It becomes easy to own front pages on google.

          I good example is do a search for "outdoor garden solar lights" with the quotes. You will see that my site owns 5 of the top ten results for the search term. 2 of which are actually pointing to my site.

          I also just check and I now own the number 1 spot on google for garden solar which has been what I have been trying to get since I started the site. So this does work and works well. Keep in mind I also have not added any new content to this site for about 3 months. All I have been doing is building links to the site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
    Originally Posted by Chris Kent View Post

    Talking about unique and duplicate content is like discussing religion here.

    Right now, the "duplicate content is a myth" followers have converted most of the forum. But there are those who disagree too and I am one of them.

    Just to let you know that things are not always as they seem.
    What I see as the biggest problem surrounding this issue is the confusion over the difference between Article Syndication and Duplicate Content and how those terms are not described and defined properly.

    A while back, someone here argued that taking an article (content) and placing it in two different places (your site and a directory) was duplicating the content. Since he was able to place an article on his site and the same article in a directory it "proved" that getting penalized for having duplicate content was a myth.

    The problem with his argument was that Google has defined three types of duplication of content with article syndication being only one of the three and not one that gets penalized.

    There is content that is duplicated in the form of an article from site to site and Google views that as "Article Syndication".No penalty

    Then there is content that is duplicated on a single site in the form of the http:www.site and http:site without the www. which Google defines as "Url Canonicalization" (this is by the way what the infamous video about Demystifying The Duplicate Content Myth is talking about) which confused web designers. No penalty

    The third type of duplicated content is when you take blocks of keyword stuffed text "make money online make money online make money online make money online..." and repeat it over and over throughout your site in an attempt to fool Google into giving you a better ranking and this is what Google defines as "Duplicate Content". There is a penalty for this if they catch you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
    Where is Alexa when you need her
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  • Profile picture of the author bigalan6622
    Darn now I have to justify my views. I agree with what Matt is saying. Article marketers need to understand what syndication really means. It's not just a select few around the WF that beleive the duplicate content penalty is a myth. It reaches far beyond the WF.


    But these guys are just SEO professionals... What about somebody who actually has some AUTHORITY with someone important like GOOGLE or something...


    • Brian White is a member of Matt Cutt’s Web Spam Team at Google. He describes the way Google handles Duplicate Content as a Filter. Here is his contribution to the story, in an interview with CNET.
    • But Brian White is not Matt Cutts! You are right. In a WebProNews story in June of 2009, Matt Cutts said, “If you have the same content on 200 different sites… is it typical that we give a duplicate content penalty for that? No. Definitely not.”
    Compliments to Bill Platt at http://article-blog.thephantomwriter...ntent-penalty/ for this one.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by bigalan6622 View Post

      Darn now I have to justify my views. I agree with what Matt is saying. Article marketers need to understand what syndication really means. It's not just a select few around the WF that beleive the duplicate content penalty is a myth. It reaches far beyond the WF.

      But these guys are just SEO professionals... What about somebody who actually has some AUTHORITY with someone important like GOOGLE or something...
      • Brian White is a member of Matt Cutt's Web Spam Team at Google. He describes the way Google handles Duplicate Content as a Filter. Here is his contribution to the story, in an interview with CNET.
      • But Brian White is not Matt Cutts! You are right. In a WebProNews story in June of 2009, Matt Cutts said, "If you have the same content on 200 different sites... is it typical that we give a duplicate content penalty for that? No. Definitely not."
      Compliments to Bill Platt at Article Marketing and the Duplicate Content Penalty Myth for this one.

      Great quote!! LOL Thank you...

      For the people who believe the Duplicate Content Penalty is Real, it is hard to convince them otherwise...

      They don't want to be educated on the subject, because those people selling Article Spinning software have been convincing...

      The people selling Article Spinning software have latched on to one minor truth to sell their software -- keyword stuffed articles, written by people who write like third-graders, seldom rank well in Google...

      The people who want to believe that the Duplicate Content Penalty is real are the same people who think it is okay to hire writers with a third-grade writing style to write their articles...

      LOL

      People who use article syndication write a higher caliber article, geared for the reader...

      It is not surprising to me that people who Syndicate Articles have a different mindset than those who Spin Articles...

      Those who Syndicate Articles are looking for an audience of interested readers AND some back links... Those who Spin Articles are only looking for back links...

      Right or wrong... The first group demonstrate a far-reaching and long-term marketing plan for their "business"... The second group is thinking only in the short-term to get "one-time visitors" to buy their stuff...

      Different mindsets lead to different belief patterns...

      It is hard to overcome the resistance that people have to believing the Duplicate Content Penalty is a Myth...

      It is hard to overcome the resistance to that idea, because people want to believe that the reason they cannot rank in Google with article marketing is not their own fault...

      The Duplicate Content Penalty gives people the escape they need to believe that they are not at fault for their poor Google rankings... It enables them to believe it is Google's fault, and not their own...

      Scapegoating is far easier than taking personal responsibility...
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  • Profile picture of the author chloetaylor
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    hi guys...sorry for interrupting your conversation but i also want to say something about duplicate content. My thinking is that If you post an article to a website and than you post the same article with the same author name to ezine than its not considered as duplicate content. but if you post it to various directories with by using different usernames and author names than this thing is gonna count as duplicate content.
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  • Profile picture of the author shern20
    Yeah you won't get punished for duplicate content. one thing i would be sure of is that you submit to ezine articles first before placing it on your site because ezine checks for plagiarism and if they see it on your site first they could deny your article.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by shern20 View Post

      Yeah you won't get punished for duplicate content. one thing i would be sure of is that you submit to ezine articles first before placing it on your site because ezine checks for plagiarism and if they see it on your site first they could deny your article.
      They have done that before, but all you have to do is explain that is your site, and they will approve the article.
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      Publish Coloring Books for Profit (WSOTD 7-30-2015)
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      • Profile picture of the author DATruk
        This little thread is a huge eyeopener. I would like to thank you all for your insights to this murky subject. The evidence and links posted, that come from your experience, is very valuable indeed.
        Darrell
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        • Profile picture of the author foxanthony
          Yeah, ditto, on the eye-opener.

          This will make the writing chore a lot easier to bear, knowing I can use it for link building too.
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