re spam comments on wordpress blog

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Hi- I have a wordpress blog on health and have recently posted an article that has attracted 20 plus comments that askimet has put in my spam folder. I am sure most of the comments are for backlinks and one or to are totally irrelevant to the topic. However some are simply making observations about the post or thanking me for the information. How do I decide what to allow and what to keep in the spam folder and what does askimet look for? What makes a comment spam??

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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    Hi Janet

    It's your blog so you make the decision as to what comments to keep. I'd suggest you follow back and check out the sites they are coming from. If not remotely connected to the same subject as yours, then personally I'd delete them

    BTW those comments are typical spammer comments and I always delete, (Askimet is pretty good at picking them out)

    Kim

    Nice blog BTW
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  • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
    To me spam is anything that gives you no value but takes value from you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Globolstaff24
      Originally Posted by Cathy Shelver View Post

      To me spam is anything that gives you no value but takes value from you.
      Well, exactly.
      It's very easy to recognize a comment as spam. That's when its information does not relate to the content of the post at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author Wesley Atkins
      Originally Posted by Cathy Shelver View Post

      To me spam is anything that gives you no value but takes value from you.
      Perfectly said...

      ...Can't add to that at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tracey_Meagher
    Be aware that many of the comments you see 'thanking you for information' are actually spam. I use my common sense on this. I check to see if the comment has some information that relates directly to my post. If it does, I keep it. I also look at url in the comment. It's often possible to tell from the url if the comment is just backlink spam.
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  • Profile picture of the author vstar00
    haha yeh if people are using auto commenters they are going to be saying things like:

    Wow, great post I found it very helpful.

    Great post but I couldnt read it on chrome/operah/my mobile

    I found your site on google


    blah.. If they dont talka bout the post its self, chances are its spam.
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    • Profile picture of the author Qamar
      Originally Posted by vstar00 View Post

      haha yeh if people are using auto commenters they are going to be saying things like:

      Wow, great post I found it very helpful.

      Great post but I couldnt read it on chrome/operah/my mobile

      I found your site on google


      blah.. If they dont talka bout the post its self, chances are its spam.
      hahaha...I got the same post like you mentioned...sigh:confused:

      Some of them using different names but same sentences promoting Traffic generating products to me. I mean we all know what they are trying to do but the least they can do is to make it more "natural"
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    • Profile picture of the author jamjar919
      Originally Posted by vstar00 View Post

      haha yeh if people are using auto commenters they are going to be saying things like:

      Wow, great post I found it very helpful.

      Great post but I couldnt read it on chrome/operah/my mobile

      I found your site on google


      blah.. If they dont talka bout the post its self, chances are its spam.
      Most recent bit of spam

      'Sorry for the huge review, but I'm really loving the new Zune, and hope this, as well as the excellent reviews some other people have written, will help you decide if it's the right choice for you.'

      I have no other comments on that post.
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  • Profile picture of the author addykho
    If you want, you can always delete off their website and approve the comment (if you want to create more activities on your site). but make sure the comments are relevant. Anyway it is up to you as it is your blog. You have full control.
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  • Profile picture of the author Janet Matthews
    Goodness - what prompt and excellent responses to my question. Thank you all of you. I can see I need to use this forum more often if I am ever to get my IM business off the ground

    Thanks again
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrea Wilson
    I guess you figured out what spam is. Hope you dont get lot of those as once in a while Akismet is also grabbing few of legitimate comments as well.

    Andrea
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Tees
    Happens to me all the time. I just “doctor.” the comments (remove or change the url) and make them relevant to the post. I charge for advertising as a monetization method, so can’t allow people to spam my blogs. Someone posting a relevant comment, or doing an article for me and posting a link in the article/post is one thing, but someone posting irrelevant comments just to plug their site is something entirely different.
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  • Profile picture of the author good2go4
    I have to admit I am a bit of a softie when it comes to sorting spam from genuine comments - I always check the site link and make sure that the content on that site is what it says it is going to be (you have no idea how much porn I find disguised as other type of links) and the content has to be related to my site in some way. If that is the case I will approve the comment.

    BUT what I found when I did that was then the same auto commentators or spammers would come along and blast every post I have with the same link and same comment, so I have put up captcha forms to stop most of the automated stuff and just blanket spam the rest. I am as into link building as the rest of us, but I don't have to spam to do it. I just figure there must be a "suckers" list somewhere and a lot of my blogs must be on it, because I can easily get 100 comments over a couple of days for sites I am not promoting in any way at all. shame they weren't buyers, lol.

    best wishes
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggerHigh
    There's no need to be TOTALLy ruthless on blog comments. After all, a blog without comments doesn't look very 'popular', now, does it? Regular comments will keep the search engine spiders coming back regularly, and can add valuable relevant content to your post. Sure, delete the obvious spam, but feel free to 'doctor' and keep the less-than-obvious stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    It's fairly easy to tell what is a legitimate comment and what is a comment for a backlink. I delete all comments that aren't relevant to my topic and "sound" real. Most of the garbage that comes in is easy to see that it is pure garbage. From my marketing blogs I get so few real comments that I don't even know why I allow comments at all.

    I use WP Spamfree for my blogs and it catches a lot of them
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    • Profile picture of the author TheCG
      I am new to IM. Reading the responses here make me have to ask.......

      What does a person, especially a new one, do for backlinks? Most especially in the beginning, before their websites or blogs are generating any traffic, are you to just buy all of them?

      Most everything I read, bought or free and even right here on the forum, suggests posting in forums to get backlinks. While most all of them also make the point that you should be sure to comment on the post and add value to the website you are visiting, never the less you are "using" that website for your own benefit.

      Reading the responses in this thread, I get the feeling that most people here don't like for anyone to come to their blogs or sites to get a link even if they are leaving a good comment and you decide whether or not to just delete them by the actual website the link is coming from.

      I know we all own our own sites and are free to do with them as we wish but if this is the overall attitude on it why is this method so commonly recommended?

      What do you do?
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      • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
        Originally Posted by TheCG View Post

        Reading the responses in this thread, I get the feeling that most people here don't like for anyone to come to their blogs or sites to get a link even if they are leaving a good comment and you decide whether or not to just delete them by the actual website the link is coming from.
        I think you'll find this common on a lot of blogs and forums in general. Many are prohibiting anyone from leaving any external links now due to what they've had to deal with from automated link building tools.

        Overall, the best strategy, if you're going to use forum and/or blog commenting, is to (a) know the rules of the sites; (b) stick with sites that do allow external links, preferably those that are followed and not nofollow; (c) always post content that's original, on topic and not generic/generated in nature.

        Originally Posted by TheCG View Post

        I know we all own our own sites and are free to do with them as we wish but if this is the overall attitude on it why is this method so commonly recommended?
        Because, when it's done properly with an automated tool, it works quite well in most cases. There are still a lot of poorly moderated websites out there that can be exploited for links. However, a lot of people here find this activity objectionable and for good reason.

        There is a lot of debate on this issue and the effectiveness of it in the long and short term in the SEO forum. You might want to check out those threads.
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggerHigh
    That's not a bad definition - applies to email spam too!
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    • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
      I set my blog up so that commenters have to opt-in to my list to leave a comment. They spam me...I spam them......just kidding.
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  • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
    Originally Posted by ljmatt View Post

    However some are simply making observations about the post or thanking me for the information. How do I decide what to allow and what to keep in the spam folder and what does askimet look for? What makes a comment spam??
    Here are examples from a blog of mine that gets a lot of spam and almost zero legit comments...

    "At long last, following struggling to find what seems like forever you have offered me the resources which i needed!"

    "It does appear that anybody is into these kinds of stuff in recent times. Don't really understand it though, even though thanks looking to make clear it."

    "Thanks you for writing an informative articles and providing me with good guidelines... I am sure it will definitely improve the progress of my blog. Anxiously waiting for some more [page title] tips from you..."

    "Thanks for sharing this article. It really helped me a lot."

    "I am trying to add your rss feed to my reader, but it doesnt' work"

    "Can I use some of the information from your post above if I provide a link back to your website?"

    "Thanks for sharing this link, but it seems to be offline... Does anybody have a mirror or another source? Please reply to my post if you do!"
    Of course, I also get spam that's just a list of links but some spam comments, like those above, are clever to some degree and try to make themselves look like more legit. Generally, anything that's not strongly on topic is going to be spam.

    If a comment ends up in the Akismet spam folder it's likely that it will be spam, meaning that the various things that Akismet uses to flag spam has marked it as spam. This appears to be tied to IP address, email, domain, number of links, certain phrases and a history of prior reporting that indicate spam. This isn't 100% foolproof though. If your blog gets a lot of referral/social traffic and comments you probably want to check Akismet for false positives. However, if this is a niche marketing blog that depends mostly on search engine traffic you probably don't need to ever check it.

    Using a good anti-spam plugin along with Akismet can really slow the flow of automated spam. The trick is finding one that doesn't break your theme. Another method you can use, if you don't want to give any backlinks, is to modify your theme so that it doesn't accept any URLs or links in a comment. I've been using this on several of my niche blogs and it works good.
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  • Profile picture of the author tonis
    I get about 50-150 spam comments a day... most of them have even similar text.

    It's really hard to see a REAL comment from all those spam comments.

    So basically i delete them all...
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  • Profile picture of the author john17
    Very informative post, however, your header is messed up in Opera.

    lol.

    I get tons of crap like that on my blog... Is there a plugin that helps automatically stop that???
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    Funny, as soon as I switched my blog to Wordpress, I started getting those same comments!

    I actually downloaded Opera to verify that my site looked OK in that browser. I wonder what the point is of using that particular spam comment.

    I was getting ten to fifteen "Please Moderate" emails in my inbox per day. Then I went into my settings and made it so users must subscribe to my blog to post comments. That pretty much got rid of all the spam.
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  • Profile picture of the author NinjaTech
    If yoiu dont want spammy comments look into using capcha for wp
    its realy good and detering
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  • Profile picture of the author Wolster
    Lots of good comments here, I had a similar situation a while back so I added a captcha form to be filled out as well as using akismet, but even then some of the more sophisticated spams bots manage to get through.

    Still have to do a bit of manual checking.
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    • Profile picture of the author netkid
      Wordpress has a "comments captcha plugin" that will get rid of 90 % of your spam comments.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Tees
    Spam is fairly obvious, for example if someone post something to the effect of

    “excellent post.”

    “thank you for posting this its very informative.”

    “your post really made my day keep up the fantastic work.”

    on your “contact me.” page where you merely have your e-mail address and phone number listed its spam. Likewise, if someone posts these comments or anything similar on a post where you are trying to sell a product and its obvious what your intentions are, then again its obviously spam.
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    • Profile picture of the author dayanthan
      Originally Posted by Jon Tees View Post

      Spam is fairly obvious, for example if someone post something to the effect of

      “excellent post.”

      “thank you for posting this its very informative.”

      “your post really made my day keep up the fantastic work.”

      on your “contact me.” page where you merely have your e-mail address and phone number listed its spam. Likewise, if someone posts these comments or anything similar on a post where you are trying to sell a product and its obvious what your intentions are, then again its obviously spam.
      Good point but do some of these examples that you have cited always consitute proof of spamming? I would say a significant percentage of the time but aren't you precluding the possibility that some of those posters are actually genuine? I guess spammers have ruined it for everybody.
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  • Profile picture of the author dayanthan
    I guess you have to use common sense to determine the answer to your own question. I would anyway. If they appeared to be legimitate and seemed to be contributing to the topic I'd be inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt. That is just me though. I prefer to trust peoples' motives unless they were clearly spamming.
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