Great product, erm, about this marketing thingy?

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Hi,

I have spent the last few years developing a great software product and an ebook to go with it. No, nothing to do with making money on the net, it's a different niche though a large one.

The book has no DRM, the software uses a serial key which is checked online for previous use (once only).

The site has a forum, users can also have their own blog, I have a full ticket support center and there's about 40 articles (written by me) on the site. It gets around 50 unique visitors a day but no-one uses the blogs and barely the forum.

The software has been extensively developed, based on my own use and feedback, it is now slick, easy to use and if I may say so, darn good. Certainly nicer than the competition.

But sales have sucked.

I've tried various price points to no great avail, in fact the lastest version sells best at its current $50 price, though that may need adjusting due to the depression thing.

I tried PPC years ago and found it not cost effective, ie it was costing me more than it was bringing in sales. I also found my organic results dropped while using it and crept up after I stopped, which really put me off ever using it again.

So basically my product is now highly polished, it's nice and while it will never be 100% finished it can sit alongside anything out there and not be ashamed of itself (and probably easier to use than near all of them).

It's already listed on almost all the download sites and I've based around a bit with some link building but it's very slow going.

My budget is tiny and almost non-existent.

Basically years of hard work producing a great product but only around one sale a week, yet I hear on here people knocking up some crap ebook and making multiple sales per day. Ouch. OK, I get the point, I need to do some marketing.

I'm not a beginner at this stuff but am somewhat bewildered as where to even start really. Writing articles doesn't overly appeal, partly as I do that for other people (at 2 cents a word, native English speaker, I'm cheap!) and partly as it's a long slow process. Writing for others is an immediate return and actually making me more money than sales of my own product. If I concentrate on writing articles for myself I'll upset my clients, lose my income and no guarantees it will make much difference, certainly not in the short term.

Those that actually buy my product and communicate with me seem to love it to bits, so at this stage further polishing of the product seems the wrong approach, but then again sales come from a trial download, so I dunno.

My current plans are:

1. Restore my (dead for some reason) autoresponder and once again demand emails for downloading. About a year ago that script stopped working, and not for the first time. I don't like hosted services so a recommendation for a GOOD autoresponder script sub $100 would be appreciated.

2. I'm working on blending the blogs and forum into one major community site which will have an online version of my software for paid members, free tools for free members. Its a major project, about 40% complete at present.

What I'd like, ideally, at this time, is knowing where I can find a decent marketing company where I can throw a little cash at them and they know what the heck to do?

Right now I'm too busy earning a living to do anything that takes a lot of time, though if I can boost my own sales I can cut back on working for others and then hit the whole articles and social networking etc stuff much harder.

So, any good low-priced marketing companies I can trust, any good autoresponder scripts for follow-ups or other ideas?

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  • Profile picture of the author The Wanderer
    Bigsofty-- I'm not the person to answer your questions, but I'm intrigued by your software. Could you send me a pm with the link?

    You say you're getting 50 unique visitors a day. It sounds like getting more traffic might be a starting point. There are probably thousands of people here-- and more on any of the rent-a-coder type sites-- who would be happy to help boost your traffic for very little money. The same goes for finding people to improve your site and your sales letter.

    If you don't get any specific help in response to this post I suggest another in a few days with a brief request for those specific things-- and include an offer to pay in the headline. That should get you all the help you need, fast. ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Bigsofty
    Boosting traffic would certainly help, I guess, though am generally wary of anyone offering visitors on a plate as I'm guessing it will be 'paid to click' garbage.

    I guess my question stems from not being entirely sure what I want, asides from a larger budget of course

    I mention the serial key thing as it's not really suitable for clickbank. Likewise I don't really want to start an affiliate program when sales are low anyway - that's not really fair on the affiliate/s.

    But yeah, traffic I guess. I know from G anal stuff that around 17% of visitors are hitting the download button. That can/should be improved too.

    Mmm.


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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Hi B,

    It's great that you've put so much work into making your product good, but you now need to shift focus.

    I have a $100k software product that I sell and a few lower priced too so I have experience in this area at several levels.

    PM me and I'll tell you some things you can do to start ramping up.

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  • Profile picture of the author Bigsofty
    Sorry for the double post but my reply above was a little disjointed due to speaking to someone at the same time.

    I should add I'm on page 1 of G for the primary keyword of 'niche software' but I'm guessing many people in said niche are not even considering the idea of software. I'm also a moderator on one of the net's most popular forums for said niche, complete with sig link. That brings some traffic. Overall I'd say my traffic is split around:

    50% Google direct SERPS for around 6 - 8 keywords including articles not about the software itself.

    25% from sig link on above mentioned forum.

    The rest a mixture of Yahoo answers, link exchanging etc.

    I've never actually tried 'article marketing'.

    So I should start a thread "Gimme more traffic for $"?

    As for Rentacoder, after a lot of failed attempts someone on there did the basic version of my software, then vanished off the face of the Earth. Subsequent attempts had some spotty success but mostly a waste of time and mangled my code worse than I could have done myself. In the end I found a professional outfit but not cheap. What does rentacoder have to do with traffic?


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  • Profile picture of the author Bigsofty
    Andy, will PM you, thanks!


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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    don't waste your time with article marketing.

    You need to take actions that you know will make a difference to your traffic and business, not spend time doing things and hoping it makes a difference.
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    Phase 1 of your new domination plan is now in your PM box have fun.
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    Phase 1 scares the crap outta me, am hoping for stage 2..


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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      Originally Posted by Bigsofty View Post

      Phase 1 scares the crap outta me, am hoping for stage 2..


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      That's because you're looking at this from the perspective of you and your product not from a marketing perspective and thinking of what your niche want.

      You made an assumption that I meant you should film yourself - That's not what I meant. It would work if you did want to but it's by no means essential or even required.

      If you don't want to do what I advised then you should think about what advice you would take and look at a model you can do with confidence, but like I said, article marketing is not gonna rock your world anytime soon.

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