How much should I pay for a mentor?

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Hello all.

I would like to have a mentor to kick my ass and drive me in the right direction so that the learning curve is easier and above all faster as prescribed by many.

How much should I expect to pay, say, to talk with someone every week, build a plan etc. and have a talk every week.

Thanks!
Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
    It depends on what type of coach you're looking for.

    If you're looking for a beginning coach who is just starting out and has achieved some success you can find them pretty cheap.

    But, if you're looking for someone like me who has built extremely successful businesses on the Internet you're going to pay more for that coach.

    You need to look at the cost and the person that is coaching you and determine whether the value the person can offer matches the price they are charging.

    Talk soon,

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    • Profile picture of the author markypm
      The person claims to have 5 years background. Seems successful and honest. He is asking for 800$ for the evaluation of my actual situation and provide me with starting plan and direction but then won't tell me how much it will be afterward... Anyone already had experience with mentor? How much did you pay?
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      • Profile picture of the author rashamba
        Before you spend a dime, please post some of your questions here at WF about your plan. You are going to get a lot of help from real people who are willing to help. This costs you nothing. Also, if I am spending that type of money, I would want to talk to former students first. You should be able to find those here as well. I don't want to say the coach is not worth it, but if you have to post about this then you should probably wait a bit to do some more research.

        Originally Posted by markypm View Post

        The person claims to have 5 years background. Seems successful and honest. He is asking for 800$ for the evaluation of my actual situation and provide me with starting plan and direction but then won't tell me how much it will be afterward... Anyone already had experience with mentor? How much did you pay?
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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    A mentor is somebody that has a personal wish for your success, usually due to a special friendship or relationship. A coach is somebody that you hire to show you the ropes. How much you pay that coach is entirely dependant on what he/she is promising you and whether or not he can deliver on that promise. It's really too broad of a question to answer.
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    • Profile picture of the author iva
      Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

      A mentor is somebody that has a personal wish for your success, usually due to a special friendship or relationship. A coach is somebody that you hire to show you the ropes. How much you pay that coach is entirely dependant on what he/she is promising you and whether or not he can deliver on that promise. It's really too broad of a question to answer.
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    • Profile picture of the author markypm
      Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

      A mentor is somebody that has a personal wish for your success, usually due to a special friendship or relationship. A coach is somebody that you hire to show you the ropes. How much you pay that coach is entirely dependant on what he/she is promising you and whether or not he can deliver on that promise. It's really too broad of a question to answer.
      Let's call it coaching then!! Sorry for that

      Well, let's say for a complete newbie to have a coach that will teach him the ropes like you say, the big picture, step by step, from generating ideas to through keyword research and information product creation...
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
        Originally Posted by markypm View Post

        Let's call it coaching then!! Sorry for that

        Well, let's say for a complete newbie to have a coach that will teach him the ropes like you say, the big picture, step by step, from generating ideas to through keyword research and information product creation...
        What's your definition of complete newbie?

        Have a Great Day!
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    • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
      Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

      A mentor is somebody that has a personal wish for your success, usually due to a special friendship or relationship. A coach is somebody that you hire to show you the ropes.
      I like this answer. I have yet to find a mentor!
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    • Profile picture of the author IceMan2010
      Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

      A mentor is somebody that has a personal wish for your success, usually due to a special friendship or relationship. A coach is somebody that you hire to show you the ropes.
      100% agreed. If a stranger tells you, "I've build operations that pull in 6 figures monthly, and I'll coach you for $5000", he's probably lieing about his success, and just wants your money to pay his own mortgage.

      The best coach you're going to get is someone who is already successful, doesn't worry about money anymore, and is just looking for something to do. Wants a new project.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Franklin
    There is some good advice, here, while I cannot tell you what to do or even really recommend to you what you should do, I can tell you that knowledge is one of the most important things you can achieve,

    E. Brian Rose post, fits in well with what I would consider a good place to start, but I would do my own evaluation, because it is all about you not the coach or mentor.

    I attended a seminar years ago, (back before seminars were popular)

    One of the presenters made one statement during that seminar that really made an impression the word motivation is somewhat derived from the latin motus meaning movement, add to that from within, and you have the realization, that no one can motivate you but yourself.

    From within, it is always about you, not anyone else.

    So I would recommend that you evaluate your knowledge about the market, where are you at, in knowledge?

    Then take a step based on that movement inside you, that motivation inside you then you can appreciate the choice you have to make better.

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  • Profile picture of the author AidenChong
    Originally Posted by markypm View Post

    Hello all.

    I would like to have a mentor to kick my ass and drive me in the right direction so that the learning curve is easier and above all faster as prescribed by many.

    How much should I expect to pay, say, to talk with someone every week, build a plan etc. and have a talk every week.

    Thanks!
    Mark
    Mentor/coach in WHAT NICHE? May I ask?

    I supposed it's the online marketing niche?

    Well then that's crazy for a "newbie", but it's ok if he could show you the system he's working with, and if he can show that he's already "walking the talk".

    One of the coaching programs that I'm in now, is only $30+ and I was able to use the "hidden relationship" that I bought with the $30+ to build a new project.

    The coach is guiding me well!

    Another coaching program that I'm in now, I paid a four-figures value for it. It's in another niche, not the online marketing niche.

    What I have bought, was not the coaching, not the mentoring session.

    The real hidden value people missed out, is the hidden relationship you could really use, when you're getting into ANY coaching programs/mentoring sessions.

    Hope that helps.

    Aiden Chong
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    • Profile picture of the author NeilC
      I'd say be very cautious if you're very new to "Internet marketing" because for $800 just to start with in can be pretty easy to impress someone who doesn't really understand much yet.

      There is so much that you can learn but you certainly don't need to learn it all, you just need to learn about what it is you want to start with.

      You might find the post here useful and it won't cost you $800! In fact, I'll even let you read it for nothing and there's a lot more useful info there as well.

      Hope you find it useful,
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      • Profile picture of the author markypm
        Thank you all for replying!

        @Tim
        Thanks for the motivation explanation. Makes sense. It's just that I feel I am more productive when I have to report to someone else. When I report to myself only, I tend to be to gentle with me and make up excuses

        @Michael Maybe
        I am not complete newbie anymore but very near that.. as I've been reading a lot in this forum in the last few weeks but still.. I just know the basic concepts now but not the specifics of each steps involved in product creation. (Like how find a niche, do proper keyword research, make sure it is profitable before to invest, then how to create the product itself, where to outsource engineering and manufacturing in the case of a physical product etc).

        @Aiden
        I don't know. I got zillions ideas in many niches. Just want to figure out which one is a good one and move on!

        @Neil
        Thanks for that, I find your site very good and very newbie oriented I will definitely read more!! I think I know what I want to do inside IM. But ultimately would like to concentrate on product creation. Just need to know it all before!
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        • Profile picture of the author AidenChong
          Originally Posted by markypm View Post

          Thank you all for replying!

          @Tim
          Thanks for the motivation explanation. Makes sense. It's just that I feel I am more productive when I have to report to someone else. When I report to myself only, I tend to be to gentle with me and make up excuses

          @Michael Maybe
          I am not complete newbie anymore but very near that.. as I've been reading a lot in this forum in the last few weeks but still.. I just know the basic concepts now but not the specifics of each steps involved in product creation. (Like how find a niche, do proper keyword research, make sure it is profitable before to invest, then how to create the product itself, where to outsource engineering and manufacturing in the case of a physical product etc).

          @Aiden
          I don't know. I got zillions ideas in many niches. Just want to figure out which one is a good one and move on!

          @Neil
          Thanks for that, I find your site very good and very newbie oriented I will definitely read more!! I think I know what I want to do inside IM. But ultimately would like to concentrate on product creation. Just need to know it all before!
          I see you replied Neil, and you wanted to learn about product creation. Great.

          But you don't have to pay that much, unless you're talking about 1-on-1.

          The one which I was paying, was exactly a coaching program on product creation!

          It cost only $30+ and I am very sure that I can get the result which I needed. The only drawback was, it's not a one-on-one coaching.


          Aiden Chong
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  • Profile picture of the author Not So New
    Most of the IM coaching that I have seen offered on the Warrior Forum is about $400 - $600.

    Usually is good for a full month of coaching which includes Skype conversations, email support etc ....

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  • Profile picture of the author markypm
    Yes 1 on 1.

    What is the program you are in then? and why the + in $30+ ?
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    • Profile picture of the author AidenChong
      Originally Posted by markypm View Post

      Yes 1 on 1.

      What is the program you are in then? and why the + in $30+ ?
      Sorry, just checked and it was sold out.

      http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-launched.html
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        Instead of asking what you should pay for a coach/mentor, these are the
        questions you should be asking.

        1. What can a mentor/coach do for me?
        2. What will I get out of it?
        3. Will what I learn make a significant difference?
        4. Is the person I'm learning from somebody with a reputation?
        5. Is the person a good fit for me?
        6. Will it be worth my time to go this route?
        7. Do I have the time to put into it?
        8. Am I expecting the coach/mentor to do the work for me?
        9. Do I already know enough to put a plan into action but just too lazy?

        I could keep going but I think you get the message.

        Shopping for a coach/mentor on price alone is like looking for somebody
        to put together a nuclear warhead on price alone.

        It may get put together, but it may blow up in your face too.

        Think about it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Another great post from Steven, there ^^^.

          I'd been looking at your thread and thinking "How much should I pay for a mentor" is not the question you should be asking. I didn't reply because I hadn't got quite as far as setting out my little list of the questions you should be asking, and now I don't need to because Steven set them out so neatly that I can just say "as above".
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Anderson
    A mentor is not something you buy. A mentor is someone who sets an example for you and gives you advice, encourages you and is there for you when you most need it free of charge.

    A coach is something you buy. Anyone who is selling "mentorship" is really selling coaching and not mentorship.

    Mentors are generally far more valuable than coaches and are attracted or earned.

    I would expect to spend no less than $10k on a good coach.

    I recommend NEVER buying into a coaching program and NEVER buying coaching that is marketed to you over the phone or in some kind of direct response sales pitch.

    Instead go out and do your due diligence looking for a coach with the skills you are seeking and with a stellar reputation for helping clients get results. Contact that individual and work out a deal.
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    • Profile picture of the author AidenChong
      Originally Posted by Josh Anderson View Post

      A mentor is not something you buy. A mentor is someone who sets an example for you and gives you advice and encourages you, and is there for you when you most need it free of charge.

      A coach is something you buy. Anyone who is selling "mentoship" is really selling coaching and not mentorship.

      Mentors are generally far more valuable than coaches and are attracted or earned.
      Well said, thanks Josh!


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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by Josh Anderson View Post

      A mentor is not something you buy. A mentor is someone who sets an example for you and gives you advice and encourages you, and is there for you when you most need it free of charge.

      A coach is something you buy. Anyone who is selling "mentoship" is really selling coaching and not mentorship.

      Mentors are generally far more valuable than coaches and are attracted or earned.

      I would expect to spend no less than $10 on a good coach.

      I recommend NEVER buying into a coaching program and NEVER buying coaching that is marketed to you over the phone or in some kind of direct response sales pitch.

      Instead go out and do your due diligence looking for a coach with the skills you are seeking and with a stellar reputation for helping clients get results. Contact that individual and work out a deal.

      Josh, you're right...a mentor is not something you buy, but so many
      people use the terms interchangeably that there's no point in trying to
      fight it. Whatever you want to call it, coaching, mentoring, teaching,
      whatever, the person is ultimately looking for someone to tell them do this,
      do this and do that and you'll make money.

      That's the mindset. They think if they have somebody holding them by
      the hand every step of the way and telling them what to do, they're
      going to be successful. What they don't understand is that eventually, at
      some point along the way, they are going to have to go it on their own
      and start to think for themselves. Many people, when left on their own,
      even after coaching, can't do that. They've become so dependent on
      the coach that without him, they're lost.

      This is why I turn down 99% of the people who apply to me. Most, I can
      tell right away by the questions they ask, don't have what it takes.

      That is the sad reality of this business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Anderson
    I meant to say "no less than $10k" not $10 ;-)
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      Originally Posted by DogScout View Post

      People who cannot sell, teach
      What a load of rubbish!

      Frank Kern, Ryan Deiss, Lee McIntyre and Eben Pagan all do very well selling and teaching!
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      • Profile picture of the author Jobfreetop
        The only mentoring that really helped me to make money was mentoring where I knew if I paid for the mentoring, I would put the work in to make the money.

        Choose someone that you trust (in terms of their results and their ability to push you in the right direction to get those results.) Choose someone who is reasonable in what they are charging and can back that up with value and their own results or historical performance.

        Imagine you are choosing a consultant whose job it is is to get you to THINK FOR YOURSELF and make a success of your online activities.

        I paid $150 as a WSO (monthly) to get results (from month 1). However, I've seen a warrior asking $997 (John Taylor) and I would say that is a fair price for what is on offer there, for those willing and able to invest $997 in their business.

        I would prefer to see a two month approach on that one ($500 per month) which gives you some slack in case you're just not ready, and also gives you a chance to evaluate the service. Having said that, I've had conversations with John where I've come away feeling a lot richer and then creating more wealth in my life soon thereafter...

        A good test of a good mentor is as follows: Having a mentor makes things feel easier. Goals which seem unreachable suddenly seem totally attainable and your mentor should believe in the possibilities for you so much that you can feel the possibilities opening up to you when engaged in dialogue with them, whether by skype, phone or email.

        Your mentor will get you thinking outside of the box in every communication with you, and you need to take responsibility as well for motivating yourself and actually doing the work required. Basically, to please yourself, you are going to need to please your mentor --- if they are any good.

        This is turning into a long post. So I've published the other half on my blog here should you wish to follow it up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clyde
    $10k sounds about right. $2k is the minimum.
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  • Profile picture of the author AFI
    Why hire a mentor or coach when you can get all the info you need right here on this forum for free? It sounds like you just want to be spoonfed the info.
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    • Profile picture of the author markypm
      @Josh
      Thanks for the numbers! That actually answers the question!

      @Steven
      Thanks for taking the time to post these questions. I can answer them all in a positive way and confirms my need for a coach. The last one is the only one that actually I can't answer. I don't know if I already know enough and that is actually the point of hiring someone. You see, I don't have much time and I want to get to a sustainable stage as fast as possible.

      I find it very inefficient to have to search for hours for every single question that raises along the way and still not being sure because everybody has it's own beliefs. For example: asking what is a good amount of search per month for a keyword... You will find so many different answers. Experienced people can answer with certainty based on experience.

      The second post raised the most important questions of all and again, for me, brings the need to speak with someone who knows: Do I have what is required to be successful? I think so. But everybody thinks so. I would really love if you would be willing to asses me! That would be of so much value to me than anything else!

      @AFI
      Yes! Spoonfed the info! Please! I don't see why that is a shame? Having the info now or wasting boring hours searching when you could use this time to do more creative/productive stuff towards the end goal. Why did they invented schools in the first place? I am willing to pay for an education.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randy Daugherty
    I think the internet info can be a good friend...You can search an online coach...
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  • Profile picture of the author luna522
    I agree, I am looking for someone as well...I just need that initial kick-start...if anyone is interested will you PM me?
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  • Profile picture of the author markypm
    It's when one posts one of his concerns he finally realize the power of this forum. I will definitely subscribe to the war room!

    Thanks all for replying. This is very enlightening and very much appreciated!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Stiff
    I am looking for coaching also, then read the thread in the JV section mentioning John Pawlett. I knew John years ago but lost touch and if he's started coaching again, I want to get on board. Does anybody have any contact details?
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  • Profile picture of the author healthstatus
    check out micromentor.org Also if you are US based you can check into score.org which is retired executives looking to be useful, they can be your kick in the butt coach, or you can actually put them to work on projects like finding grants, advertising and copy writing depending on what backgrounds you specify.

    you can also look into a mastermind group of 4-6 others which you can talk about your businesses, strategies, ask for help, give help etc. If you add an accountability component, where you say, by the next time we meet (weekly, biweekly, monthly) I will have completed, x, y and z. Then the next meeting your group will be asking, did you do it? You either get it done, or get good at excuses.
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  • Profile picture of the author LetsGoViral
    Many might not like this but honestly - I don't think it is worth paying the mentor. Best tips in life you will get for free. There is tons of information online, just read and analyze, try through trial and error and ask for advice at forums. What do you need a mentor for?

    What a load of rubbish!

    Frank Kern, Ryan Deiss, Lee McIntyre and Eben Pagan all do very well selling and teaching!
    Selling their teaching maybe?
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by LetsGoViral View Post

      Many might not like this but honestly - I don't think it is worth paying the mentor. Best tips in life you will get for free. There is tons of information online, just read and analyze, try through trial and error and ask for advice at forums. What do you need a mentor for?

      Worst advice I have heard in a very long time.

      When I started out, over 7 years ago, I did JUST what you are suggesting.

      I floundered for 5 months (making $28 in those 5 months) before I started
      to see at least some decent money come in and it took me YEARS to get
      to where I wanted to be.

      If I had somebody teach me from the start, I would have gotten to where
      I wanted to be in months...NOT years.

      Terrible, terrible, terrible advice.
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      • Profile picture of the author LetsGoViral
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        Worst advice I have heard in a very long time.

        When I started out, over 7 years ago, I did JUST what you are suggesting.

        I floundered for 5 months (making $28 in those 5 months) before I started
        to see at least some decent money come in and it took me YEARS to get
        to where I wanted to be.

        If I had somebody teach me from the start, I would have gotten to where
        I wanted to be in months...NOT years.

        Terrible, terrible, terrible advice.
        I don't think it's the worst advice. I strictly believe it's the truth. Speaking from practice, all the best knowledge I have gained in internet marketing is free and I got it from friendships mostly. As I said I will get burned for this since many warriors offer coaching services. Sorry.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          Originally Posted by LetsGoViral View Post

          I don't think it's the worst advice. I strictly believe it's the truth. Speaking from practice, all the best knowledge I have gained in internet marketing is free and I got it from friendships mostly. As I said I will get burned for this since many warriors offer coaching services. Sorry.
          What you believe is irrelevant. It is a fact that there are people out there
          who can't do this on their own. They need somebody to walk them through
          it. I was one of them who could have desperately used the help.

          Your beliefs mean nothing.
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          • Profile picture of the author Meharis
            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            What you believe is irrelevant. It is a fact that there are people out there
            who can't do this on their own. They need somebody to walk them through
            it. I was one of them who could have desperately used the help.

            Your beliefs mean nothing.
            Mr. Wagenheim,
            I'm here reading the warriors opinions but,
            I'm surprised by your posting:
            "Your beliefs mean nothing."
            Looks like you did not like the truth; not his opinion.
            Because you desperately needed help doesn't mean
            everyone have to do it the same way you did.
            We are all different; aren't we ?
            Any way, respecting others opinion, even if you don't
            go along with it is very encouraging to exchange ideas.
            After all, you can not kill ideas...
            I'm not saying "LetsGoViral" is right. I'm trying to make
            a point regarding respect for someone else opinion.
            You don't have to agree but you may try to respect
            others opinions.
            You also could try ignoring his opinion...also; mine.
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            • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
              Originally Posted by Meharis View Post

              Mr. Wagenheim,
              I'm here reading the warriors opinions but,
              I'm surprised by your posting:
              "Your beliefs mean nothing."
              Looks like you did not like the truth; not his opinion.
              Because you desperately needed help doesn't mean
              everyone have to do it the same way you did.
              We are all different; aren't we ?
              Any way, respecting others opinion, even if you don't
              go along with it is very encouraging to exchange ideas.
              After all, you can not kill ideas...
              I'm not saying "LetsGoViral" is right. I'm trying to make
              a point regarding respect for someone else opinion.
              You don't have to agree but you may try to respect
              others opinions.
              You also could try ignoring his opinion...also; mine.
              Meharis

              I can come here and give the opinion that the world is flat. It doesn't
              change the fact that the world is round and my opinion is meaningless.

              It doesn't matter what the OP thinks. He's stating a personal opinion
              about how he feels it is best to learn and applying it not only to himself
              but categorically to everybody else.

              This is what I have a problem with.

              And if you don't think there aren't thousands of people out there who
              could desperately use somebody to hold their hand and walk them
              through business planning and creating a profitable business, take a
              survey of this forum alone and see how many people have been at this
              for 6 months or more with very little or nothing to show for it.

              Sure, he's entitled to his opinion.

              It doesn't mean that it has any validity.
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              • Profile picture of the author Meharis
                Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                I can come here and give the opinion that the world is flat. It doesn't
                change the fact that the world is round and my opinion is meaningless.

                It doesn't matter what the OP thinks. He's stating a personal opinion
                about how he feels it is best to learn and applying it not only to himself
                but categorically to everybody else.

                This is what I have a problem with.

                And if you don't think there aren't thousands of people out there who
                could desperately use somebody to hold their hand and walk them
                through business planning and creating a profitable business, take a
                survey of this forum alone and see how many people have been at this
                for 6 months or more with very little or nothing to show for it.

                Sure, he's entitled to his opinion.

                It doesn't mean that it has any validity.
                "Sure, he's entitled to his opinion.
                It doesn't mean that it has any validity. "

                You still don't get it , Mr. Wagenheim.
                You're saying one thing but you're not doing it.
                He's entitled to his opinion but has no validity ?
                He's opinion is good as yours; period.
                That's what I call Respect to the other person.
                You did put the other fellow warrior down.
                Sorry, that's what you did; like it or not.
                If you're going to respond me, you may do it.
                I'll respect your answer but, I wont make any
                further comments. We both have expressed
                our point of view and that's good enough for me.
                Meharis
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                • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
                  Originally Posted by Meharis View Post

                  "Sure, he's entitled to his opinion.
                  It doesn't mean that it has any validity. "

                  You still don't get it , Mr. Wagenheim.
                  You're saying one thing but you're not doing it.
                  He's entitled to his opinion but has no validity ?
                  He's opinion is good as yours; period.
                  That's what I call Respect to the other person.
                  You did put the other fellow warrior down.
                  Sorry, that's what you did; like it or not.
                  If you're going to respond me, you may do it.
                  I'll respect your answer but, I wont make any
                  further comments. We both have expressed
                  our point of view and that's good enough for me.
                  Meharis

                  You're right...this conversation is pointless.
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  • Originally Posted by LetsGoViral View Post

    I don't think it's the worst advice. I strictly believe it's the truth. Speaking from practice, all the best knowledge I have gained in internet marketing is free and I got it from friendships mostly. As I said I will get burned for this since many warriors offer coaching services. Sorry.
    LetsGoViral - I agree 100% with you, the challenge is that when you voice an "against" opinion in a forum full of "service providers" you are going to get shouted down, every time.

    The difference between a mentor and a coach is profound, a coach is a service provider.

    The challenge with IM service providers like coaches or SEO's is if they really knew what they where doing they would be in such high demand that you would have to wait until they could fit you in ( if you could afford them ) they wouldn't be hustling for the next client.

    An expansion on the concept - if you really knew how to drive traffic to a site, create offers that converted etc would you be hustling for the next client or working the 4 hour week ?

    I say this as an ex SEO for hire, once I worked out how to do it I had two choices

    1, Do all the tasks required building someone elses business for a few dollars an hour and have that revenue stream turn off at anytime.

    or

    2, Do EXACTLY the same actions but working on assets I owned.

    It what makes me hang up on Indian SEO's that promise you the world but havent worked out how to make an Adsense site that pays enough money so they didn't have to contract out for $4 a hour.

    People would say that all professional sportsmen have paid coaches but they don't typically make a choice between play or coach. They are coaches or players and the good ones are not hustling for clients at $100 a month.

    So the question is are there individuals out there that arent in it for money ? That genuinely want to help .... of course they are the mentors and if you find one you likely wont have to pay anything except attention.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clyde
    I wouldn't give coaching for less than $10k starting 2011.

    It's just not worth it.

    Guys like Frank Kern etc would probably charge more.

    How much do you think Bill Clinton paid Tony Robbins for his help?
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  • Profile picture of the author glassextreme
    Al: Whatever amount you put the price tag to doesn't matter. What matters is how much you are getting for that amount.

    Like what some of them mentioned, is the sum for 1 month or ongoing? How long are each sessions? Do the strategies resonate with the person? Does the coach ensure there is accountability? Or does the coach wait for the student to come back without checking on the progress? What is the outcome?
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    • Profile picture of the author jbrett
      Absolutely hire a mentor.

      You think anyone on here who is actually making BIG money didn't have a mentor? You think they don't have people that can call who give TOP NOTCH advice?

      You don't have anyone you can call for top notch advice, but, if you've got money or are willing to work hard for them in a barter arrangement you can break your way into the upper tier of marketers.

      Personally I'd pick someone local. Someone who you can meet with in person and get to know them on a personal level.

      You should absolutely make it part of the agenda to attend events with them and meet people. Expand your network of people you can work with and go to for advice.
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  • Profile picture of the author healthstatus
    Steve,
    You can lead a horse to water.....

    Lack of information is not the problem, lack of action is.

    If you can't self direct action, then this is probably not the right business to be in.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Originally Posted by markypm View Post

    Hello all.

    I would like to have a mentor to kick my ass and drive me in the right direction so that the learning curve is easier and above all faster as prescribed by many.

    How much should I expect to pay, say, to talk with someone every week, build a plan etc. and have a talk every week.

    Thanks!
    Mark
    Mark, you don't need to buy "mentorship." What you need is a series of coaches/teachers/consultants, along with a good mastermind group for accountability.

    As far as basic business planning goes, SCORE can be a great asset. You can get together with a retired executive - someone who made a living on the front line and the boardroom - for no charge.

    You can hire coaches/consultants to teach you specific skills like keyword research, product creation, etc. on a project basis.

    With a good mastermind group you can bounce ideas off each other, support each other, keep each other accountable, even maintain friendly competition to keep each of you moving forward.

    There are definite times where having someone point you in the right direction, and learning from their mistakes without having to make them yourself, is a huge aid in flattening out the learning curve.

    Back around the start of the year, I participated in a giveaway intended to give a few chosen people a leg up. The person I worked with took the coaching and consulting in the package he was awarded and went from struggling to growing success in a pretty short time. Less than a year later, he's doing very well for himself.

    The right people are out there. You just have to find them. One thing to keep in mind, though, is this is not an arena where a big price tag always means big value. Sometimes it just means a big price tag...
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