WF Articles Forum: Article Writers Please Speak Up Now or FOREVER Hold Your Peace

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Allen Says was kind enough to open an Articles Section in the Forum this morning at: WF Articles Forum.

To be honest, I was thrilled enough to see it that I subscribed to that portion of the forum immediately. I am certain it will be money well spent.

I wrote a brand new article this morning to place in this section, so that I could test it out with a clean slate. Early results are promising:

1. The article was crawled and indexed by Google within 12 minutes of its going live on the Warrior Forum.

2. I am certain that the article page will pass some link juice with Google and the other search engines.

3. I am getting a decent number of article reads / page views, and I do expect the potential lifetime value of that article to be awesome.

4. I have not yet generated any sales as a result of posting that article this morning, but I have no doubt that I eventually will.


Shortly after I posted the article, I started getting feedback from folks that they wanted to comment on the article itself. But unfortunately, they could not because comments are not allowed at this time in the Articles section of the forum.

I can see many pro's and con's of allowing comments on articles...

PRO's:

1. Author's can get immediate feedback on their articles: good, bad or indifferent. In my mind, feedback is awesome. It will allow me the ability to know if I am hitting on all cylinders, and often feedback gives me ideas for my future articles.

2. Readers may add links to their comments that will support your article for SEO purposes... You did know that a web page will have more power in Google if there are links on the same page that point to web pages that Google considers to be "authority" web pages.

3. Even if an article is posted elsewhere on the Internet, comments will allow the version of your article in the WF Articles Section to appear unique in the eyes of Google, because the additional comments on the page will add new words, phrases and search ranking combination's to your article. I feel that the comments will increase the range of search words that my article could rank for in Google and the other search engines.

4. Comments would allow my readers to have discussions with me about my content, further enhancing my ability to establish myself as an expert on the topic.

5. Comments would encourage more people to link to my articles, especially when the reader felt strong enough to contradict my point of view in the comments. After all, people who disagree with me want to make it a point to let others know that they disagree with me. LOL

6. If I wanted to simply have my article stand on its own as its own content, then we have dozens of article directories and our own websites that will serve that purpose just fine.

7. The WF has a huge audience of one-quarter million potential readers, who are not afraid to contribute to what we have written. If people know that they can comment on what we have written, more of them will read our articles and comment on them. (As long as we can report comments that Flame our articles, we would be able to protect the integrity of what we have written, and even WSO's have the "Report This Post" button.)

CON's:

1. We may have to share our article link juice with those people who comment on our articles, but those people who have read our article and shared it with others will help improve the amount of link juice our articles will have.

2. We may have a nasty competitor or general naysayers comment on our articles, but we still have a "Report This Post" button and more to my position, we can usually turn a negative comment to the positive, sometimes by commenting and often by saying nothing at all... LOL

3. The comments on the page may dilute the keywords we were targeting in our articles, but if you wrote your article well in the first place, that is almost a non-issue...

4. A person commenting on an article may deflate an argument you made in your article, but if you are worth your salt as a writer, you will be able to strengthen your article with a well-thought response.


Okay. So it should be obvious to you that I want the Comments ability added to my articles...

If you agree with me, say so... If you disagree with me, speak louder than I did...

Let the fun begin... Let's beat this topic to death...

... Starting NOW ...
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Howard
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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
      My articles had a few comments which was cool and were deleted when comments were shut off... but Rob is right about the link leak.

      A few of my comments were asking questions which I was happy to answer but could get time consuming.

      Another concern I have is that you could also get people trashing your article which also isn't cool IMO - since it is an article and we're paying to post.

      I guess if sigs for commentators are disabled and we can have troll comments zapped with a strict warning trashing articles for sport is not allowed just like we do for the WSO forum then I'm cool with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    My question is, what are the rules of the article forum regarding posting straight affiliate links? We know that's not allowed in Warrior Forum but of course that's a different section, so I just wonder. I figure not.

    There are some guidelines there but I'd like them to be more specific and clear. Such as, are there a limit of how many links you can place in your article? I see links that have been placed even in the first sentence for some, which I assume would be fine as opposed to a normal article marketing setup where the resource box with self-serving links is at the bottom.

    Just a more encompassing explanation of what you can/cannot do in that section would be nice, and possibly encourage more to plunk down the $60 so they know exactly what they can do with articles there.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
      Originally Posted by redicelander View Post

      My question is, what are the rules of the article forum regarding posting straight affiliate links? We know that's not allowed in Warrior Forum but of course that's a different section, so I just wonder. I figure not.

      There are some guidelines there but I'd like them to be more specific and clear. Such as, are there a limit of how many links you can place in your article? I see links that have been placed even in the first sentence for some, which I assume would be fine as opposed to a normal article marketing setup where the resource box with self-serving links is at the bottom.

      Just a more encompassing explanation of what you can/cannot do in that section would be nice, and possibly encourage more to plunk down the $60 so they know exactly what they can do with articles there.
      Affiliate links aren't allowed anywhere in this forum nor in most other article directories so I'm thinking the same applies here but we'll have to wait for Allen to know for sure. I would think it's best to send the traffic to my own websites vs. using an affiliate link.

      If affiliate links are allowed I would think the quality of articles would plummet since it would just become a pitch fest.
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        Originally Posted by Alan Petersen View Post

        Affiliate links aren't allowed anywhere in this forum nor in most other article directories so I'm thinking the same applies here but we'll have to wait for Allen to know for sure. I would think it's best to send the traffic to my own websites vs. using an affiliate link.

        If affiliate links are allowed I would think the quality of articles would plummet since it would just become a pitch fest.

        Agreed...plus we usually make rules as we go along here and so far I haven't seen a need to make any more.
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        • Profile picture of the author J Bold
          Originally Posted by admin View Post

          Agreed...plus we usually make rules as we go along here and so far I haven't seen a need to make any more.
          Well, that's clear enough for me. Just was hoping it would be clear for all. If it becomes a problem you would have to deal with it, but if it doesn't, no need to make an issue if it's not one, I guess.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rob Howard
        Originally Posted by Alan Petersen View Post

        Affiliate links aren't allowed anywhere in this forum nor in most other article directories so I'm thinking the same applies here but we'll have to wait for Allen to know for sure. I would think it's best to send the traffic to my own websites vs. using an affiliate link.

        If affiliate links are allowed I would think the quality of articles would plummet since it would just become a pitch fest.
        I agree - I hope he doesn't allow affiliate offers. I can see the garbage piling up fast if that happened.

        Your own website, WSO, or accounts in your name.

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  • Profile picture of the author George Wright
    It would be nice if authors could turn on and off the comment features.

    I haven't joined yet so I don't know if you can edit your articles, however I'd you can you could ask people to pm you comments and edit in the ones yot liked.

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  • Profile picture of the author thatgirlJ
    I like it for SEO -- getting activity on those articles is a great thing.

    It would be cool if sigs could be shut off for for those who respond/ask questions, but that's not a deal-breaker for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
    Hey,

    Like I posted earlier.. I think allen missed it, but you could have sig files turned off in that section:

    Getting rid of avatars and sigs in one forum section [Archive] - vBulletin Community Forum

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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    I voted no comments.

    I personally would not pay to post articles and then let other non paying members post comments or any comments at all for that matter.

    If it were allowed then you have the issues of moderating the comments if they are self promoting or even completely disagree with what the author has written.

    Benefit:

    Most posts rank number 1 on Google for the post title.
    Traffic arrives via search engine to your article or post.
    User likes and clicks through and maybe buys or subscribes to your site.

    Mission accomplished, benefits gained.

    If I am paying now to post in the article section to take advantage of this scenario then it would not seem fair nor right to dilute the possibility of those who arrives from a search engine to get distracted and click another signature link other then the article authors.

    So final say to me is, that no replies or comments should be allowed if Alan is going to charge for members to post self promoting articles.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

      I voted no comments.

      I personally would not pay to post articles and then let other non paying members post comments or any comments at all for that matter.

      If it were allowed then you have the issues of moderating the comments if they are self promoting or even completely disagree with what the author has written.

      Benefit:

      Most posts rank number 1 on Google for the post title.
      Traffic arrives via search engine to your article or post.
      User likes and clicks through and maybe buys or subscribes to your site.

      Mission accomplished, benefits gained.

      If I am paying now to post in the article section to take advantage of this scenario then it would not seem fair nor right to dilute the possibility of those who arrives from a search engine to get distracted and click another signature link other then the article authors.

      So final say to me is, that no replies or comments should be allowed if Alan is going to charge for members to post self promoting articles.
      Rus, I pretty much agree with you except for this bit:

      If it were allowed then you have the issues of moderating the comments if they are self promoting or even completely disagree with what the author has written.
      I'd say that if a commenter is disputing 'facts', they should do so with proof. Otherwise, a badly composed disagreement could even strengthen your position.

      "That clown is against it, so it can't be all bad..."

      I'd say 'turn the sigs off on comments, and encourage the same kind of self-moderation that keeps the main forum as tidy as it is.' If other commenters were encouraged to report inappropriate comments like they do threads and posts in the discussion areas, your 'duties' as author would likely be minimal.

      If it doesn't work, turn the comments off again...
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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
        Another 'no' vote here.

        I'd like to see the new area stay as a 'pure' article section. Otherwise, there'd be the temptation for the author to reply to comments, thus stimulating a discussion which really should take place in the relevant discussion forums, IMO.

        There's already the option to give a 'thanks' if you agree with, or are impressed by, a particular piece. And if you feel strongly about the subject, you can always post your own article.

        It might also be a bit cheeky to take up virtual real estate in an article thread started by a paying member.


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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

          I'd like to see the new area stay as a 'pure' article section. Otherwise, there'd be the temptation for the author to reply to comments, thus stimulating a discussion which really should take place in the relevant discussion forums, IMO.

          Frank
          Frank, you make a good point...
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          • Profile picture of the author Crew Chief
            Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

            So final say to me is, that no replies or comments should be allowed if Alan is going to charge for members to post self promoting articles.
            Russell, I concur...

            [Off Topic] Russ, Steve A., just talked up your NPP and I was floored that I had not heard about it.:confused: I signed up two days ago and just started my submissions, awesome service bro.!!!

            Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

            Another 'no' vote here. I'd like to see the new area stay as a 'pure' article section. Otherwise, there'd be the temptation for the author to reply to comments, thus stimulating a discussion which really should take place in the relevant discussion forums, IMO.
            Frank
            Frank, you said succinctly what I was thinking. If a AMer is paying for the service, let them reap the benefits of a PURE article section. The second point you made about the, "...taking place in the relevant discussion forums," really sealed the deal.

            I vote for NO comments.

            Now if I could just get some IM related articles ready to post and get my WF AM subscription, I'm in!

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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

          I'd like to see the new area stay as a 'pure' article section. Otherwise, there'd be the temptation for the author to reply to comments, thus stimulating a discussion which really should take place in the relevant discussion forums, IMO.

          There's already the option to give a 'thanks' if you agree with, or are impressed by, a particular piece. And if you feel strongly about the subject, you can always post your own article.

          Or worst case, we could match what SiteProNews does in the newsletter version of the article:

          Have an Opinion on Today's Article?
          Post Your Comments at SiteProNews.com

          Then link from the bottom of the article post to a specific discussion link in another part of the forum.
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          • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
            Okay. So it should be obvious to you that I want the Comments ability added to my articles...

            If you agree with me, say so... If you disagree with me, speak louder than I did...
            NO COMMENTS!!!!!!!

            Thanks.

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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by George Wright View Post

      It would be nice if authors could turn on and off the comment features.

      I haven't joined yet so I don't know if you can edit your articles, however I'd you can you could ask people to pm you comments and edit in the ones you liked.
      George: As with any other section of the forum, you can edit your articles after they have been posted.

      If I needed to check my PMs to add comments to my articles, I may never get to them all... There should be a simple solution to this issue... Not one that complicates the entire process...

      Maybe article authors can moderate comments added to their articles... I don't know...

      But I would consider it a real loss if people could not comment on my articles as they are able to do in blogs and such...

      If I have to put my articles into blogs to get the feedback I seek, then I will probably have to do without the opinions of those Warriors whose opinions I value...


      Originally Posted by ccmusicman View Post

      One of the biggest problems I foresee is leakage of clicks via sig files.
      Link Bleed is always going to be an issue any time you post an article on a website other than your own.

      Last time I checked EZA, they had 42 Adsense Ads per article page, not including the 21 EZA Links on the page, and the 40 links to other articles on their site!! That is 103 links on the same page as your article in EZA!!

      One of my favorite places to get published is SiteProNews, because when published there, I generally have a very profitable day (4- to 5-figures), such as here:
      SiteProNews: 5 Essential Elements of Successful Article Marketing

      There is only one reason I linked the article, so that you can check the Link Bleed there too. On that page, you will find 124 links that are not mine. But that has never stopped me from making a lot of money when my articles are featured there.

      If you have written your article well and your resource box equally well, then your links will attract more of the clicks than any other links on the page.

      If you have written your article or your resource box poorly, competitive links is going to be the least of your problems, unless you can figure out how to remove the BACK button from peoples' browsers!


      Originally Posted by Jenn Dize View Post

      I like it for SEO -- getting activity on those articles is a great thing.
      If there is any Google Link Juice to be had on any website that publishes your article, surely the Link Bleed to people commenting on your article will not be as bad as it is at EZA or SiteProNews... But I am pretty sure that despite the vast number of links that can be found on those pages that I am still getting some Link Juice from both of them.

      Personally, I don't see Link Bleed as a real problem since we see it any time we syndicate our articles to another website.

      If the argument is on the grounds of SEO Leakage, rather than turning off sig files in the Articles Section, how about instead NO FOLLOW links on commenter sig links?


      Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

      If it were allowed then you have the issues of moderating the comments if they are self promoting or even completely disagree with what the author has written.
      Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

      Encourage the same kind of self-moderation that keeps the main forum as tidy as it is.' If other commenters were encouraged to report inappropriate comments like they do threads and posts in the discussion areas, your 'duties' as author would likely be minimal.

      If it doesn't work, turn the comments off again...
      Agreed. The rest of the forum does fine with self-moderation...

      I cannot imagine that we would not do as good of a job in the articles section as we do in the rest of the forum, helping the moderators keep the bad eggs under control...


      Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

      I personally would not pay to post articles and then let other non paying members post comments or any comments at all for that matter.

      If I am paying now to post in the article section to take advantage of this scenario then it would not seem fair nor right to dilute the possibility of those who arrives from a search engine to get distracted and click another signature link other then the article authors.

      So final say to me is, that no replies or comments should be allowed if Alan is going to charge for members to post self promoting articles.
      If you are investing any time into the writing of the article and distributing it to other publishers through the standard article syndication channels -- time is money -- so there is always a cost involved in what you are doing...

      Any time that your article is posted anywhere but on your own website, there is the potential for your article to be critiqued and your links to be diluted by other people, whether in the comments section of a blog or in the sidebars, headers and footers...

      For anyone who does any kind of article marketing off-site, this is always a consideration...

      Are you actually saying that the $60 per year (i.e. $5 per month) would be a waste of money, if your articles faced the same issues they faced elsewhere online?

      And you would continue to believe that, even though it is fairly obvious that in this forum, you are able to post your articles in this place where your articles have a much greater chance to be seen, read and acted upon, by a potential audience of a quarter million online marketers?

      Seriously?

      I waste more than $5 every month on advertising channels that offer even less value than I can find here at the WF!!
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  • Profile picture of the author glassextreme
    It's like having a squeeze page. You only want your lead to submit the email and name, and then you can get him onto your list. If you have so many things there, then the person doesn't know what to do.

    If there are tons of comments, then instead of clicking on your link in your call to action area, the person would be submitting the comment instead and then leaving the page.

    If you have your article there for SEO purpose, then it would look weird too.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      I haven't subscribed to the articles section yet but I will be in the next week or so. I'd do it now if I hadn't already spent my limit this week.

      I would prefer not to have comments on my articles. If someone wants to disagree with my position on something, let them sign up and post their own article.

      I'm not so much concerned about leakage. After all, EZA has ads all over the place yet many people are still getting their articles ranked and getting traffic from the articles they post.

      I think allowing comments would turn this section into any other section on the forum - they typical arguments, semi-polite flaming and the ones trying to look like experts but not having a clue as to what they're talking about. Plus, it would allow those who didn't pay for the privilege the ability to post an article in rebuttal, if they chose.

      If someone wants comments, then they should either use the Warrior blogs provided or one that they host elsewhere. Then use your articles here to funnel traffic to those blogs.

      So if votes count in any way, shape or form - my vote is no comments.

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  • Profile picture of the author Erica Leggette
    I think the new section is great and plan on subscribing in the near future.

    I would vote to leave out the ability to post comments. I say, just create a WF blog and direct readers there to converse about the article (if it's allowed).

    ----edit----Tina we were thinking the same on this one--I missed your post
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
    My vote: No comments. I want the click through...not a comment. Users can post their comments on the site I send them to...if I want them to.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
      As someone who had comments on the articles I've posted so far, I was waffling on this but Frank and Rus have convinced me to go with NO for comments.

      The purpose of this new forum is to be an article directory not a regular section of the forum so no comments.

      Hell, if someone hates the article they can post in the off topic about it vs. wrecking the purpose for us paying to post there which is for SEO and backlinks not commenting.

      It also can corrupt the process so if one article has 50 comments and one has zero it devalues it when it could just be that marketer with 50 comments is more well-known. This levels the playing field.

      So I've made up my mind. No to comments.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    Another point and I have seen this MANY times...some times the replies out rank the original post on Google...

    @ John, I don't think your thinking it thought completely. No offense though, please.

    @ Crew Chief, THANKS!!!

    In all honesty I think an article section on the forum is super cool for content writers to harness the ranking power of the Warrior Forum, but any post in any section can still harness that power as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

      In all honesty I think an article section on the forum is super cool for content writers to harness the ranking power of the Warrior Forum, but any post in any section can still harness that power as well.

      See, we don't have to disagree on everything...


      p.s. This is the first time I have ever made a suggestion in the WF, where I felt like people would have enjoyed taking me behind the barn for a good ole' redneck flogging... LOL
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      • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        See, we don't have to disagree on everything...


        p.s. This is the first time I have ever made a suggestion in the WF, where I felt like people would have enjoyed taking me behind the barn for a good ole' redneck flogging... LOL
        Not at all. This was a very necessary discussion. The perspectives offered help everyone make a better decision.
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        • Profile picture of the author Crew Chief
          Originally Posted by tpw View Post

          p.s. This is the first time I have ever made a suggestion in the WF, where I felt like people would have enjoyed taking me behind the barn for a good ole' redneck flogging... LOL
          Actually tpw, in the military, we don't have floggings; we have blanket parties for dissidents...


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  • Profile picture of the author Sheryl Polomka
    I vote NO COMMENTS - if I pay to post articles then I want that article page to be mine, not for every man and his dog to be able to come in and add their 2 cents worth.

    What about backlinking?? If you allow comments are you going to see a WSO come out next week about how to increase your backlinks by commenting on the Warrior Forum Articles???
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  • Profile picture of the author JackBenson
    If it's a split decision why not add the option to open comments or not on each article you post. Not sure if that's possible.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by JackBenson View Post

      If it's a split decision why not add the option to open comments or not on each article you post. Not sure if that's possible.

      That would be awesome, but it is so far difficult to call it a split decision... It has been running all night at around 73% against. LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    Well even though its not a huge amount of money, people are still paying something. right?

    I think it should be set up so that those paying for the service get the absolute most benefit possible, and from my perspective that is no links other then the authors and no replies.

    If some one has a question they want to ask the author they can PM them.
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  • Profile picture of the author AllyW
    Whoa. I just read the backlinks comment and that helped me decide, because there is no doubt at all that you definitely would see "comment on articles in the Warrior Forum" in some backlinks packages. I had one site that somehow got on someone's list of sites that use Comment Luv or something, and good grief you would not believe the total garbage that most people left as a comment. Pages and pages and pages of junk that no one with even half a brain would consider to be a real comment, and I had to scan each one before deleting. Ugh. NO to comments.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      From what I can see here some people want it some people don't.

      Personally I like the idea you can delete comments you don't like or be able to have the option of not allowing comments in the first place. That way the link leakage crew are happy but a good point was made, this is a public forum and unless it's your own site you just can't control that.

      Either way having those comments, especially decent constructive ones, often from fellow Warriors that have more experience than you, can only be a good thing from a learning point of view and creating better articles. If I wrote an article and the likes of TPW were to give me decent advice or better still a dam good thumbs up thats only going to make the article look better. Fair play if you're some top notch article writer but a bit of someone else's constructive advice never hurt.

      Also you can make comments on ezine articles, at least here Allen won't go sticking links to irrelevant crap in the middle of your article.

      I hope.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    Question?

    What is more powerful.

    Allowing people to reply on your article "thread" or.

    This?

    Posted 11-11-2010 at 10:22 AM

    Then a few minutes later....this happens.

    Advice on how to make a sale

    or this,

    How to Make the Sale - Tips Techniques

    or this.....

    Tips Techniques & Advice on how to make a sale


    To me its a no brainer! I would rather keep it as tightly focused as possible and funnel the incoming traffic to my site or an optin page when they click through, the more distraction the less chance there is of that happening.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

      Question?

      What is more powerful.

      Allowing people to reply on your article "thread" or.

      This?

      Posted 11-11-2010 at 10:22 AM

      Then a few minutes later....this happens.

      Advice on how to make a sale

      or this,

      How to Make the Sale - Tips Techniques

      or this.....

      Tips Techniques & Advice on how to make a sale


      To me its a no brainer!

      You seem to be overlooking part of the point I was making...

      I am completely agreeing that we are getting ranked for our targeted keyword phrases, and that is clearly a positive that I am not trying to erase...

      What I am saying is that conversations taking place on the same page as the article are adding more keyword phrases to google, for which we might be able to rank for...

      Sometimes accidental keyword phrases can be just as profitable as deliberate keyword phrases... And given that the comments add more keyword phrases to our ranking possibilities, those would surely be categorized as accidental rankings...

      Without comments, our only possibilities for Google rankings are those keyword phrases that "we did plan"...

      With comments, we can additionally get good Google rankings for keyword phrases that the people commenting slipped into the equation...

      I would rather my article rank well in Google for 20 keyword phrases instead of 10...

      If I can get my article ranked for twice as many search phrases, those comments could bring perhaps twice the traffic... If the people commenting bleed off 20% of my potential clicks, they are still bringing me more clicks than I would have gotten without them...

      If you ask me, that should be the "no-brainer", if we want to stoop to the level of insulting each others intelligence.



      p.s. That was a pretty clever little trick to get more people to find and read your articles.... LOL
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      • Profile picture of the author bretski
        Have to agree that if I'm paying to have an article on a site I want to keep the focus on my article. Personally, I don't want any other links, banners etc on that page other than navigation. Sure, the banners here on WF are minimal and in good taste but I could see how the articles forum could become a free for all with forum marketers posting comments to articles that are ranking well for a keyword.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
        If you ask me, that should be the "no-brainer", if we want to stoop to the level of insulting each others intelligence.
        Which is exactly what would transpire in a lot of the article threads if comments were allowed.

        Can you seriously think of one subject that wouldn't foster the reflex to post an opposing view?

        It could be that you are looking at this through your own eyes and hence not seeing the possibility of others posting misinformation in their articles, either intentionally or not, that would cause a few defensive responses for the sake of adding clarity.

        Once the first comment is added it no longer remains strickly an 'article', it now becomes a discussion.

        And we are all familiar with how discussions go around here...

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        • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
          In my opinion, in this day and age of social media, it just seems a bit backwards to have an article and not give readers a means to comment on it. But, that's just me. And I'm not a paying member of that section.


          However, it seems to me that the best option may be to allow authors to determine whether or not to allow comments on a particular article, if that's possible.

          Then, instead of everyone arguing this way and that, the people paying to put their articles there could choose the method that they feel helps them best.
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  • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
    Well,

    Allen could do this... He could put the setting to "can close own thread" and yes, under vB settings, and you could check the box on set up, to say that you wanted the thread closed after you posted it, and vB would close it...

    Then anyone who wanted comments, wouldn't closeit...

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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    @tpw,

    I did mention that sometimes replies out rank the original post, yes it happens but its rare at very best.

    I did not miss your point, I just don't think it has any benefit to allow others to comment on the articles other then a discussion. Its not a discussion section its an article section.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

      I did not miss your point, I just don't think it has any benefit to allow others to comment on the articles other then a discussion. Its not a discussion section its an article section.

      So we can agree to disagree...

      You see no benefit...

      I see a real benefit...

      This thread was set up as a poll, because I wanted to see if I could influence WF Admin to my point of view...

      I have clearly had the floor mopped with my ass... LOL

      Three-Quarters of all voters have sided against my point of view on this issue... So I seriously doubt that comments will ever grace articles inside the WF...

      But perhaps the WF Admin will set up another section of the forum where individual author's who wanted to invite comments could go in and set up a thread specifically for the purpose of commenting on specific articles...

      If I wanted to enable people to comment on my articles, I could set up a thread in that section, and link to it from my article...

      That could perhaps let those of us in the minority have our way too...
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  • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
    Seconded Bill's idea

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