Rank #11 for "ways to make money online"- Need some suggestions please

by satrap
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I hope this thread can give newbies hope and show them that you can do this, no mater how "newbie" you might be. If you work and take action, you can do this.

I also need some advice from warriors. Here is the deal:


I am very excited. I am almost there. I dont know if some of you guys remember or not, I had posted a thread a few months ago about how I was so happy that in less than a year I went from not knowing how to make a simple website to ranking #75 for "making money online" keyword and #200 for "ways to make money online" which are some of the most competitive keywords in online money making niche.

This is a continuation of that post and how with the help I got from this forum and the great members of it, I have managed to move forward and get my blog a step closer to where I want it to be.


I have been watching my ranking for my main keyword "ways to make money online" on Google top 100 SERPs. For the last 2 week or so, my blog was going back and forth between 2nd page, 6th, 7th, and 8th page. But for the past few days, it has settled on 2nd page (#11). So, So, I think the dance is over. I am very excited.


I really didn't think I could do this. I mean, when I first bought my domain last year, I didn't know a thing about how websites work, I didn't even know what SEO stood for. I know the second page of Google is basically like being on the #100 page. But to me its a lot and it just means I have to work a little harder o get to the first page and stay there. And I think the main thing that helped me was my crazy article submissions. I submitted a lot of articles to article directoires left and right.





Now I need some advice:
I optimized 2 page of my blog for the keyword ways to make money online, home page the page where I have the 53 ways to make money online. However, right now it is my homepage that is ranking #11, and I am going to work hard to get it to the first page for that keyword. But, here is the problem (maybe):

This is my description tag (what shows next to my url for "ways to make money online" on Google's result page):

A blog about the best ways to make money online, from making money with affiliate marketing, ebay, e-books, to paid surveys, mystery shopping, blogging and ...


Usually people who search for the term "ways to make money online" would be more interested in a link that says something like 10 ways to make money online or 32 quick ways to make money online and etc. So, I know people are more likely to click other links with those kinds of description rather than click on my link.

So, do you think I should change the description tag and include the "53 ways to make money online" and then use some kind of plug-in to have it as the feathered article or something like that on the homepage where as soon as people visit, they can see it or...?


I would appreciate any suggestions.
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  • Profile picture of the author SpokaneWebGuy
    how about soemthing like this: "Over 53 ways to make money online. Making money with affiliate marketing, ebay, e-books, to paid surveys, mystery shopping, blogging and ...
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    • Profile picture of the author satrap
      Originally Posted by SpokaneWebGuy View Post

      how about soemthing like this: "Over 53 ways to make money online. Making money with affiliate marketing, ebay, e-books, to paid surveys, mystery shopping, blogging and ...
      Thank you for your input. I know I can do that, but the problem is I don't want to say something as specific as that (53 ways to ...), but when people click on the link, they wont see that 53 ways... immediately. they will be going to my homepage. Of course from there, they can find the link to that page on my sidebar, but usually its best that the content of the page gives what the title said it would.
      I am sorry, I know its confusing, I am having a hard time explaining it.
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  • Profile picture of the author singhavn
    Congrats satrap. You are just one position away to reach 1st page and I hope you will be there soon. Can I just ask how much traffic are you getting daily from no.11 position.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    Congratulations Satrap! I'd change the description to make it more compelling for people to click through, and then feature that post on 53 ways to make money online as a sticky post, so that this is what visitors see right away when they click through to go to your site.

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  • Profile picture of the author JohnHuizinga
    The dance is never over. Especially for highly competitive terms.

    By the way, you're on page 5 for me for "make money online" (without the quotes).
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    • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
      Originally Posted by JohnHuizinga View Post

      By the way, you're on page 5 for me for "make money online" (without the quotes).
      He's #18 on my browser.

      Now, if I go to his site first and then try searching that keyphrase Google will probably put his site on the first page for me.

      Google loves to do "favors" like that for searchers.

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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Munch
    Is that sending any traffic yet? If its not sending anything you are probably putting too much into a longtail term that is quite competitive that offers little traffic.

    Instead I would produce a lot more content (hundreds of pages) that targets hundreds of longtail terms, and if that particular post is one you want to push in front of users you can link to it prominently on your site from all pages.

    Also if you have an email list link to that post in your email follow-up series.
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    • Profile picture of the author satrap
      Originally Posted by singhavn View Post

      Congrats satrap. You are just one position away to reach 1st page and I hope you will be there soon. Can I just ask how much traffic are you getting daily from no.11 position.
      Thank you, I am working hard to get there. I am not getting any traffic from that keyword, thats why I said being on the 2nd page is just like being on the 100th page, lol. However, I am on the 1st page for a few other keywords like "make money with facebook" (and all the other combinations like "on facebook, with facebook and etc). Which together bring me about 300-400 a day.



      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

      Congratulations Satrap! I'd change the description to make it more compelling for people to click through, and then feature that post on 53 ways to make money online as a sticky post, so that this is what visitors see right away when they click through to go to your site.
      Paul
      Thanks for your support Paulie. I was thinking of the same thing. Is there any specific plugin you would recommend for having a featured post on the homepage?

      Originally Posted by JohnHuizinga View Post

      The dance is never over. Especially for highly competitive terms.

      By the way, you're on page 5 for me for "make money online" (without the quotes).
      Yeah, Thats true, the dance is never over. But, I follow it closely, so I know it has settled for a while.
      Yes for "make money online" I rank #49. But for the "ways to make money online" I rank #11. So, as of right now, I am trying to focus to work on the late one since I am much closer to the 1st page.

      Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

      He's #18 on my browser.

      Now, if I go to his site first and then try searching that keyphrase Google will probably put his site on the first page for me.

      Google loves to do "favors" like that for searchers.

      ~Bill
      I have tried that myself before and I have noticed that as well. However, I am using a few different Google SERP checkers to check the ranking, not the Google result page.
      Also, I have been watching that keyword's ranking as well, and it seems like it goes back and forth between a few pages. I guess the BIG dance is not over yet.


      Originally Posted by ChrisTew View Post

      Is that sending any traffic yet? If its not sending anything you are probably putting too much into a longtail term that is quite competitive that offers little traffic.

      Instead I would produce a lot more content (hundreds of pages) that targets hundreds of longtail terms, and if that particular post is one you want to push in front of users you can link to it prominently on your site from all pages.

      Also if you have an email list link to that post in your email follow-up series.
      Thanks for your advice. No, its not sending any traffic yet, but then I know from keyword tools and analyzing the compilation's traffic data, this keyword gets a lot of monthly searches which most of that traffic goes to the first 4 websites displayed on the 1st page. I am on the 2nd, so, I know I wont be getting any traffic from there.

      Great suggestion about the email follow-up. I will try that. Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author 2d0k
    Hello Satrap,

    When did your blog go live? Is it Godaddy hosted?

    I'm asking because I have a similar site where I am trying to rank in Google but it is nowhere seen in the top 100 page yet for my targeted keyword.
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  • Profile picture of the author chooch
    Do you have a Blog on your website? If so...add articles there. The search engines seem to like websites that are active.

    That's how I got to page one of Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author joelraitt
    Have you done all the onsite SEO you can, it debatable but its prob about 50-60% of the battle to out ranking other guys!

    If its a wordpress site there are a few plug ins that really help!
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    • Profile picture of the author satrap
      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

      You could use the WP-Sticky plugin, which seems to work quite well for me - WordPress › WP-Sticky « WordPress Plugins

      Paul
      Thanks for the link paul. While researching, I just found a simple guide on how to make a post appear as a sticky post, which is quite easy on wp. But, I want the post to be a little different than the other post (style, colors and etc). But since I am not good with css, I probably will go with the plugin. Thanks again Paul.

      Originally Posted by 2d0k View Post

      Hello Satrap,

      When did your blog go live? Is it Godaddy hosted?

      I'm asking because I have a similar site where I am trying to rank in Google but it is nowhere seen in the top 100 page yet for my targeted keyword.
      It want live about a year ago. I am with hostmonster, (although I dont think your hosting company has anything to do with ranking).

      Originally Posted by chooch View Post

      Do you have a Blog on your website? If so...add articles there. The search engines seem to like websites that are active.

      That's how I got to page one of Google.
      This is a blog I am talking about!

      Originally Posted by joelraitt View Post

      Have you done all the onsite SEO you can, it debatable but its prob about 50-60% of the battle to out ranking other guys!

      If its a wordpress site there are a few plug ins that really help!
      Yes, I have done most things that are suggested by seo people and yes I am using the seo wp plugins. However, my question here isn't about how to rank well, I m just trying to make the page friendlier for the visitors who might find the page with the keyword "ways to make money online".
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      • Profile picture of the author 2d0k
        Originally Posted by satrap View Post


        It want live about a year ago. I am with hostmonster, (although I dont think your hosting company has anything to do with ranking).
        Thanks for your answer..

        With regards to hosting, I think Google incorporates the loading time of websites in their SE algorithm.. Well, I've read somewhere that Godaddy doesn't do well in hosting WordPress blogs in terms of site loading time - this might affect SE rankings of blogs.
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        • Profile picture of the author satrap
          Originally Posted by rahulbatra View Post

          I don't know about your SEO work but really interested in 53ways of making money online. I had faced many website promising this but reaches nowhere.
          Well, you are welcome to read the post. There is a link to the post in my signature(below). I hope you like it.
          Originally Posted by 2d0k View Post

          Thanks for your answer..

          With regards to hosting, I think Google incorporates the loading time of websites in their SE algorithm.. Well, I've read somewhere that Godaddy doesn't do well in hosting WordPress blogs in terms of site loading time - this might affect SE rankings of blogs.
          You are welcome. Oh I see, yeah, I think I have red the same thing and I believe loading time does effect how Google ranks you, but I would think it would be a very small factor.
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          • Profile picture of the author paulie888
            Originally Posted by satrap View Post

            Oh I see, yeah, I think I have red the same thing and I believe loading time does effect how Google ranks you, but I would think it would be a very small factor.
            Loading time is a factor that more directly affects your conversions. I think I read somewhere that many site visitors will click off your site if you don't see most of your site loaded up quickly within about 5 seconds, so it's crucial that you optimize your site for fast loading, and this includes minimizing the use of flash banners and large graphic banners/headers and/or picture files.

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            • Profile picture of the author satrap
              Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

              Loading time is a factor that more directly affects your conversions. I think I read somewhere that many site visitors will click off your site if you don't see most of your site loaded up quickly within about 5 seconds, so it's crucial that you optimize your site for fast loading, and this includes minimizing the use of flash banners and large graphic banners/headers and/or picture files.

              Paul
              Great point Paul, and thank you for further explaining the load time and its effect.
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  • Profile picture of the author rahulbatra
    I don't know about your SEO work but really interested in 53ways of making money online. I had faced many website promising this but reaches nowhere.
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